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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`NINTENDO CO., LTD., and NINTENDO OF AMERICA INC.,
`Petitioners,
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`v.
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`ANCORA TECHNOLOGIES, INC.,
`Patent Owner.
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`Case IPR2021-01338
`U.S. Patent No. 6,411,941 B1
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`PATENT OWNER’S REQUEST FOR ORAL HEARING
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`Mail Stop PATENT BOARD
`Patent Trial and Appeal Board
`United States Patent and Trademark Office
`P.O. Box 1450
`Alexandria, Virginia 22313-1450
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`Patent Owner Ancora Technologies, Inc. (“Ancora”) hereby requests an oral
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`hearing pursuant to 37 C.F.R. § 42.70 and the Board’s Scheduling Order dated
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`January 27, 2022 (paper 10), the Board’s Decision Granting Requests for Changing
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`Oral Hearing and Due Dates dated May 4, 2022 (paper 24), and the Parties’ Joint
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`Stipulation to Modify Due Dates 2–4 dated June 8, 2022 (paper 28). Oral hearing is
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`currently scheduled for October 3, 2022. (See paper 24.) Ancora requests that the
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`hearing be held in-person at the Alexandria USPTO Headquarters, or alternatively
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`that the hearing be held virtually if so ordered by the Board. Ancora intends to
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`discuss the issues raised in the parties’ filings in the ongoing reviews, including but
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`not limited to, the following items:
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`1.
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`Any issue properly raised by Petitioner, including the Petition for Inter
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`Partes Review and Reply in this proceeding, including the patentability of claims 1–
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`3, 6–14, and 16 of U.S. Patent No. 6,411,941, titled “Method of Restricting Software
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`Operation Within a License Limitation.”
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`2.
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`Any issues addressed by Ancora, including in Ancora’s Responses,
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`Supplemental Response, and Sur-Replies.
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`3.
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`Rebuttal to issues properly raised by Petitioner, including in any
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`Petition, Responses, Replies, motions to exclude or requests for oral argument.
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`4.
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`Any other issues related to invalidity that the Board deems necessary
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`for issuing a final written decision.
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`Ancora requests that each side be given 45 minutes of total time to present its
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`arguments. Ancora further requests that the oral hearing in this matter be
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`consolidated with IPR2021-01406. Specifically, Ancora requests the sequence of
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`argument to allow Petitioner in this case and in IPR2021-01406 to present their
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`principal arguments (up to 45 minutes for each case), followed by Ancora’s rebuttal
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`to both (up to 45 minutes for each case), followed by Petitioners’ respective sur-
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`rebuttals (if time is reserved in one or both cases), followed by Ancora’s respective
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`sur-sur-rebuttal. To be clear, Ancora requests time equal to the sum of time granted
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`to Petitioners in this case and petitioner in IPR2020-01406. Given the similarity of
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`issues in this case and IPR2021-01406, this sequencing would promote efficiency
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`by avoiding repetition of arguments and ensure Petitioners in one or the other case
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`do not get an unfair advantage based on observing Ancora’s arguments or the
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`Board’s response thereto. Ancora proposed this arrangement to Petitioner, and has
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`not received a response. Ancora is available for a conference call with the Board at
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`the Board’s convenience.
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`Ancora also requests the ability to use audio/visual equipment to display
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`demonstrative exhibits, including the use of a projector and screen for demonstrative
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`slides.
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`Dated: September 2, 2022
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`Respectfully submitted,
`FITCH, EVEN, TABIN & FLANNERY LLP
`By: /David A. Gosse/
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`David A. Gosse
`Reg. No. 61,511
`dgosse@fitcheven.com
`Nicholas T. Peters
`Reg. No. 53,456
`ntpete@fitcheven.com
`Karen J. Wang
`Reg. No. 62,503
`kwang@fitcheven.com
`Fitch, Even, Tabin & Flannery LLP
`120 South LaSalle Street, Suite 2100
`Chicago, IL 60603
`(312) 577-7000
`(312) 577-7007 (fax)
`Attorneys for Patent Owner
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
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`The undersigned hereby certifies that on September 2, 2022, a complete and
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`entire copy of the PATENT OWNER’S REQUEST FOR ORAL HEARING, was
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`served via electronic mail to the attorneys listed below at PerkinsService-
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`Nintendo-Ancora-IPR@perkinscoie.com:
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`Lead Counsel
`Jerry A. Riedinger
`Reg. No. 30,582
`riedinger-ptab@perkinscoie.com
`Perkins Coie LLP
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`Back-up Counsel
`Jose Villarreal, Reg. No. 43,969
`villarreal-ptab@perkinscoie.com
`Perkins Coie LLP
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`Kyle Canavera, Reg. No. 72,167
`canavera-ptab@perkinscoie.com
`Perkins Coie LLP
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`Theresa H. Nguyen (pro hac vice)
`nguyen-ptab@perkinscoie.com
`Perkins Coie LLP
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`Tara Kurtis, Reg. No. 74,846
`kurtis-ptab@perkinscoie.com
`Perkins Coie LLP
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`Dated: September 2, 2022
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`/David A. Gosse/
`David A. Gosse
`Reg. No. 61,511
`dgosse@fitcheven.com
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`By:
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