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UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`APPLE INC.
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`Petitioner
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`UNILOC 2017 LLC
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`Patent Owner
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`IPR2019-00701
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`PATENT 8,018,877
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`PATENT OWNER SUR-REPLY
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`Table of Contents
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`I.
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`II.
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`INTRODUCTION ........................................................................................... 3
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`PETITIONER’S REPLY UNDERSCORES DEFICIENCIES OF THE
`PETITION ....................................................................................................... 3
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`Petitioner’s reliance on Kirmse as disclosing “transmitting a request to
`a server to allocate a network address and port associated with the
`server to use in a data exchange session with a participating mobile
`device” remains deficient (Ground 1) (Independent Claims 1, 8, 15) . 3
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`Petitioner’s reliance on the combination of Chambers and RSIP as
`disclosing “transmitting a request to a server to allocate a network
`address and port associated with the server to use in a data exchange
`session with a participating mobile device” remains deficient
`(Ground 2) (Independent Claims 1, 8, 15) ..........................................10
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`C.
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`Petitioner’s assertion that a POSITA Would Have Combined
`Cordenier and TURN remains deficient (Ground 3) ..........................16
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`III. APJs are Unconstitutionally Appointed Principal Officers ...........................22
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`IV. CONCLUSION ..............................................................................................22
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`CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE .......................................................................23
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE ................................................................................24
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`INTRODUCTION
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`Uniloc 2017 LLC (“Uniloc” or “Patent Owner”) submits this Sur-Reply in
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`IPR2019-00701 for Inter Partes Review (“Pet.” or “Petition”) of United States
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`Patent No. 8,018,877 (“the ’877 Patent” or “Ex. 1001”) filed by Apple Inc.
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`(“Petitioner”).
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`PETITIONER’S REPLY UNDERSCORES DEFICIENCIES OF THE
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`Petitioner’s Reply underscores the deficiencies of the Petition’s reliance on
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`Kirmse, Chambers, RSIP, Cordenier, and TURN and its failed mappings to the
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`limitations recited in claims 1-20 of the ‘877 Patent.
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`Petitioner’s Reply not only ignores the clear requirement that “In an inter
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`partes review . . ., the petitioner shall have the burden of proving a proposition of
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`unpatentability by a preponderance of the evidence” (35 U.S.C.§ 316(e)), but also
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`fails Patent Owner’s unambiguous rebuke of Petitioner’s Grounds 1-3, as explained
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`in detail in Patent Owner’s Response. POR, pp. 5-15.
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`A.
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`Petitioner’s reliance on Kirmse as disclosing “transmitting a
`request to a server to allocate a network address and port
`associated with the server to use in a data exchange session with a
`participating mobile device” remains deficient (Ground 1)
`(Independent Claims 1, 8, 15)
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`Patent Owner’s Response explains that the Petition fails to show the above-
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`identified limitation, as recited in the claims. POR, pp. 6-8. Petitioner’s Reply (p.
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`1) confirms its reliance on Kirmse for the above-identified limitations (citing
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`Petition at pp. 16 and 18-19) and asserts that Patent Owner’s Response rebutting the
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`Petition’s assertion of Kirmse ignores that Kirmse also teaches processing requests
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`to “start” a game. Reply, p. 2.
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`The Petition contends, and the Institution Decision indicated, that the
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`Petitioner had met the low threshold of institution for showing, that because Kirmse
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`purportedly teaches to “start” a game, it teaches allocation of a session identifier.
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`E.g., Reply, pp. 1-3. However, there is no disclosure in Kirmse that starting a game
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`comprises allocating a session identifier, and neither Petitioner nor the Institution
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`Decision cite to any such disclosure. In fact, in Kirmse, many games exist regardless
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`of whether particular players are playing, and unused sessions exist to distribute to
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`players as needed. Ex. 1005, 5:54-65. Indeed, Kirmse describes “invoking” a game
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`numerous times throughout the specification, which denotes that the game already
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`exists. See, e.g., Ex. 1005, 6:21-35 (describing invoking of game client).
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`In fact, contrary to the Petitioner’s allegations in its Reply that Kirmse’s
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`alleged disclosure of “an embodiment in which a player starts a multiplayer game”
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`is pertinent to this recitation, e.g., Reply, p. 1, of the only four uses of the term “start”
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`in the Kirmse Specification, only one is relevant to the portion of Kirmse relied upon
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`in the Reply for this recitation. Kirmse, states, in relation to Kirmse Fig. 4:
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`At step S2, the inviter's game client connects to a game server to join
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`or start a game. In response, the game server serves up an active game
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`(S3) and provides (S4) the inviter with enough information, such as IP
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`address and port number, so the inviter can play the game.
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`Kirmse, 7:32-36 (emphasis added). This clearly teaches serving of an active game
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`in response to either joining or starting a game. The service of an active game
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`encompasses providing the inviter with existing connection details, and providing
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`of the inviter with the existing connection details, in contrast to the claim recitation
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`of receiving a request to allocate a session identifier.
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`The Petitioner hypocritically contends that Patent Owner has somehow
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`waived the argument that starting a game does not disclose allocation of a session
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`identifier. Reply, p. 3. However, a review of the Petitioner’s three pages of
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`argument on pages 18-20 of the Petition clearly shows that the Petitioner does not
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`argue that starting a game discloses allocation of a session. Not only does
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`Petitioner fail to raise this argument in its attempt to map this claim recitation onto
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`Kirmse on pages 18-20 of the Petition (of which 1 page is Kirmse Fig. 4, which
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`contains no argument), Petitioner does not even use the word “start” in its entire
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`Ground 1 Analysis section (Petition, Section VI.C., pp. 17-34). And yet Petitioner
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`complains that Patent Owner waives the right to rebut an argument never raised in
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`the Petition. Further, Patent Owner notes that it has asserted since the POPR that
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`“according to the disclosure of Kirmse, “the game server serves up an active game
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`(S3) and provides (S4) inviter with enough information, such as IP address and port
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`number, so the inviter can play the game.” POPR, p. 9 (citing Ex. 1005, 7:33-36
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`(emphasis added)). This argument applies whether a game is joined or started, as
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`clearly specified in Kirmse. This hypocritical argument does not address the
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`shortcomings of Petitioner’s evidence.
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`Petitioner identifies no disclosure in Kirmse of allocating a session identifier
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`as opposed to distributing an already existing identifier. Kirmse expressly states that
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`in response to either joining or starting a game, “the game server serves up an active
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`game (S3) and provides (S4) the inviter with enough information, such as IP address
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`and port number.” Ex. 1005, 7:33-36. Neither Petitioner nor the Institution Decision
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`identify where Kirmse allegedly teaches that starting a game comprises allocating a
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`session identifier rather than serving up an active game. Extraordinarily, Petitioner
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`attempts to repair this obvious defect in the Petition by improperly proffering a
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`dictionary definition of “allocate” with its Reply, Ex. 1026, along with a belated
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`Declaration relying on this dictionary definition to attempt to satisfy Petitioner’s
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`initial burden. Ex. 1025, Para. 6. As Petitioner should readily have anticipated that a
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`definition of a key claim term was required to make its case, the Board should not
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`consider this belated evidence. “‘[A]fter institution, the petitioner “may not submit
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`new evidence or argument in reply that it could have presented earlier, e.g. to make
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`out a prima facie case of unpatentability.’ CTPG at 73.” Hulu, LLC v. Sound
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`Innovations, Inc., IPR2018-01039, Paper No. 29 (PTAB Dec. 20, 2019)
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`(Precedential Opinion Panel, quoting Consolidated Trial Practice Guide). Indeed,
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`in view of this belated evidence, the Board should not consider the Petitioner’s
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`Reply. A “reply or sur-reply that raises a new issue or belatedly presents evidence
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`may not be considered. The Board is not required to attempt to sort proper from
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`improper portions of the reply or sur-reply.” Consolidated Trial Practice Guide, p.
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`74. Even if this improperly belated evidence were to be considered, Petitioner’s
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`conclusion, based on the definition of “allocation” in Exhibit 1026, that “allocation”
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`allegedly is synonymous with “distribution,” is only reached by completely ignoring
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`all but a single word of the very definition Petitioner provides which states: “to
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`apportion for a specific purpose or to particular persons or things.” Reply, p. 3
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`(emphasis added). Further, as discussed on pages 6-8 of the POR, the Institution
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`Decision, in its analysis on pages 13-14, only finds this recitation disclosed in
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`Kirmse by impermissibly rewriting the claim recitation “transmitting a request to a
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`server to allocate a network address and port associated with the server to use in a
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`data exchange session with a participating mobile device” as a request in Kirmse to
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`distribute “a port reference or URL string that specifies a specific game in progress.”
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`Ex. 1005, 5:59-62. This analysis conflates Kirmse’s serving of an active game with
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`existing connection details, and providing of the inviter with the existing connection
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`details, with the claimed recitation of receiving a request to allocate a session
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`identifier. Indeed, Kirmse teaches that multiple game clients, including the inviter
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`and invitees of the inviter, may use the port reference or URL. Ex. 1005; 7:33-51.
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`With regard to the Petitioner’s Declarant, Patent Owner noted in the POR that
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`the Declarant mischaracterizes Kirmse by stating that the connection details include
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`the server’s IP address and the game instance’s port number. Ex. 1002, ¶ 51, when,
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`in fact, Kirmse states that a “specific port reference or URL string…specifies a
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`specific game in progress.” Ex. 1005, 5:59-62. The point of the argument is to
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`demonstrate that the Declaration is faulty because of the Declarant’s failure to
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`accurately and completely characterize Kirmse. The Petitioner’s Expert fails to
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`acknowledge that Kirmse may provide identification of a specific game in progress
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`via a URL string, as opposed to a port. And further, the Petitioner’s Expert further
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`builds on this mischaracterization by equating, with no analysis, a session identifier
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`as a “game instance with IP address and port.” Ex. 1002, ¶ 56. The Expert again
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`incorrectly states that a “session identifier,” referring to a game, specifically requires
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`a port number. Ex. 1002; Para. 30. Kirmse does not use the term “session identifier,”
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`and, far from requiring a port to access a game, allows a game to be accessed simply
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`by a URL string.
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`In the Reply, the Petitioner on the one hand recognizes that “Kirmse discloses
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`that a fallback URL can also be sent in case the invitee lacks an installed local game
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`application,” Reply pp. 4-5, but on the other hand fails to admit that this statement
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`implicitly acknowledges that the Declarant’s statement that a session identifier
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`requires a “game instance with IP address and port,” Ex. 1002, ¶ 59, is inaccurate.
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`The Petitioner then doubles down on this inaccuracy, noting that the Declarant
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`“testifies consistently” about the session identifier requiring a game instance with IP
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`address and port. Reply, p. 5. While the Petitioner attempts to wave away this
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`inaccuracy by stating that the “additional disclosure is not relevant,” Reply p. 5, the
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`disclosure that a session identifier can comprise something other than a port, a URL,
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`clearly demonstrates that the Declarant’s Declaration includes inaccuracies.
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`Accordingly, the Petitioner’s Expert’s Declaration should be given little or no
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`weight.
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`Finally, Petitioner contends in the Reply that the Patent Owner has failed to
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`explain why Kirmse does not teach the recitation of “transmitting a request to a
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`server to allocate a network address and port associated with the server to use
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`in a data exchange session with a participating mobile device.” Reply, pp. 1-6. As
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`explained above, Petitioner has not shown that Kirmse teaches allocating a session
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`identifier, or that starting a game involves allocating a session identifier. In the
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`Institution Decision, the Board indicates that “the game client may alternatively
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`obtain the reference to the game from the server.” Decision, p. 13. Patent Owner
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`submits that the disclosure to “obtain” a reference implies that the reference already
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`exists, supporting Patent Owner’s contention that Kirmse teaches serving an existing
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`session identifier to users, rather than allocating a session identifier as required by
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`the claim limitation. It is unclear how the Board can interpret the use of an existing
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`reference as teaching allocation of a session identifier.
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`Accordingly, Kirmse does not teach “transmitting a request to a server to
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`allocate a network address and port associated with the server to use in a data
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`exchange session with a participating mobile device” as required by the claim
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`language, and thus Ground 1 fails.
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`B.
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`Petitioner’s reliance on the combination of Chambers and RSIP
`as disclosing “transmitting a request to a server to allocate a
`network address and port associated with the server to use in a
`data exchange session with a participating mobile device” remains
`deficient (Ground 2) (Independent Claims 1, 8, 15)
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`Patent Owner’s Response explains that the Petition fails to show the above-
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`identified limitations, as recited in the claims. POR, pp. 8-13. Petitioner’s Reply
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`(pp. 6-11) confirms its reliance on Chambers and RSIP for the above-identified
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`limitations and asserts that Patent Owner’s Response fails to take into account “RSIP
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`as a whole.” Reply, p. 9. The Petitioner has the burden of proof. 35 U.S.C. § 316(e)
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`(“the petitioner shall have the burden of proving a proposition of unpatentability by
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`a preponderance of the evidence”). Here, in the Reply, rather than respond to the
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`POR, Petitioner has improperly proceeded in a new direction with a new approach
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`compared to the Petition, by citing to different portions of RSIP to purportedly
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`explain why its original citations actually teach what Petitioner said they teach,
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`because it is not clear from the original citations themselves that they teach what
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`Petitioner contends they teach. ““Respond,” in the context of 37 C.F.R. § 42.23(b),
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`does not mean proceed in a new direction with a new approach as compared to the
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`positions taken in a prior filing.” Consolidated Trial Practice Guide, p. 74.
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`Accordingly, for this additional reason, the Board should not consider the
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`Petitioner’s Reply. And yet, even with these new citations to “RSIP as a whole,”
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`RSIP does not teach what the Petitioner is contending it teaches.
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`In fact, neither Chambers nor RSIP teaches or suggests the required
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`transmitting, to a server, a request to allocate a network address and port associated
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`with the server. While the Petitioner contends that such a teaching exists when
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`considering the “RSIP as a whole,” Reply, p. 9, as noted above, this is essentially an
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`admission that the original citations do not clearly teach this recitation. As disclosed
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`in RSIP, the system comprises three different devices: an RSIP Host, an RSIP
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`Gateway, and a Host:
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`A POSITA would understand that when a reference is discussing ports in
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`relation to a plurality of devices, the term “local” must be construed in relation to
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`the particular device that is being discussed.
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`As discussed in the POR, RSIP does not disclose the required allocating of a
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`network address and port associated with the server. As discussed in detail in the
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`Preliminary Response at pages 12-17,
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`the description of
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`ASSIGN_REQUEST_RSAP-IP
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`message
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`“ASSIGN_REQUEST_RSAP-IP” message, “The RSIP host specifies two address
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`and two port parameters: a local address and port (, which refers to an address and
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`port for the RSIP Host, and second remote address and port(s) that will be contacted:
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`Ex. 10131 at p. 27 (highlighting and underlining added).
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`Further still, the Petition itself argues that RSIP should be used “with the no
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`remote flow policy”. Pet. 40; see also Pet. 37, 41, 42, 47. And regarding “remote
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`flow policy”, RSIP expressly states that under a “no flow” policy, the hosts (a.k.a.
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`1 The page numbers refer to the page numbers added by Petitioner at the bottom
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`mobile devices) communicate without explicitly notifying the gateway (a.k.a. the
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`server):
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`Ex. 1013 at p. 13 (highlighting and underlining added). The foregoing further
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`confirms that under RSIP the allocation of “addressing parameters” is “to the host”
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`(a.k.a. the mobile device), and not associated with the RSIP gateway (a.k.a. the
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`server), as required by the claim language.
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`In an effort to evade the lack of support for Petitioner’s position in any specific
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`portion of RSIP, the Reply goes into a lengthy discussion of what the “RSIP as a
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`whole” allegedly teaches. Reply, pp. 9-11. However, the discussion of what other
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`parts of the RSIP teach does not change that the actual disclosures Petitioner cites to
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`in support of the element of transmitting a request to a server to allocate a network
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`address and port associated with the server rely on interpreting the term “local” in
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`RSIP contrary to its clear meaning. Patent Owner submits that one of ordinary skill,
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`when faced with a system comprising three devices, would understand from RSIP’s
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`statement that “The RSIP host specifies . . . the local address and port(s) that will be
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`used,” that the term “local” refers to the ports of the RSIP host, if the term “local”
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`is to have any meaning. If the local address and port(s) were intended to refer to the
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`address and ports of the RSIP Gateway, then reference to the “RSIP Gateway”
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`addresses and ports could easily have been specified. Neither the description for the
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`ASSIGN_RESPONSE_RSAP-IP
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`description
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`ASSIGN_REQUEST_RSAP-IP teach allocation of a network port of the RSIP
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`Gateway. The improper supplemental Declaration submitted by Petitioner, while
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`mentioning these ASSIGN requests, fails to so state. Ex. 1025, Para. 8. Likewise,
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`as also discussed in the POR (POR, pp. 11-13), there is nothing in the description
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`for the LISTEN_REQUEST regarding a request to allocate a network address and
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`port associated with the RSIP Gateway (a.k.a. the server). While the belated
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`supplemental Declaration of Petitioner’s expert purports to address this issue, the
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`Declaration merely parrots the Response (Ex. 1025, Para. 7-8; Reply, pp. 9-11), and
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`fails
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`the fact
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`that RSIP does not state
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`the message
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`ASSIGN_RESPONSE_RSAP-IP allocates network ports of the RSIP Gateway, but
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`merely characterizes the message as communicating: “a bind ID of 1 has been
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`assigned to IP address 149.112.240.156 with ports 1234-1237,” Ex. 1013, 50, with
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`no indication that those ports are anything other than ports of the host.
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`It is the Petitioner’s burden to show that the prior art teaches what it is
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`purported to teach. 35 U.S.C. § 316(e)) (“the petitioner shall have the burden of
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`proving a proposition of unpatentability by a preponderance of the evidence”).
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`Petitioner tries to shift its burden by claiming that Patent Owner has not shown that
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`local address and port means “something different than it does everywhere else in
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`RSIP.” Reply, 10. However, Petitioner has the burden to substantiate the contention
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`that “local” refers to ports of the RSIP Gateway “everywhere else” in RSIP, which
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`it has not met. A POSITA would understand that “local” used in RSIP refers to the
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`particular device being discussed. Here, the Petitioner, faced with a clear deficiency
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`in its arguments for unpatentability, attempts to impose on the term “local” the
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`condition that “local” means “local,” not to the particular device under discussion,
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`but to the RSIP Gateway, even though the system includes at least three different
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`devices: the RSIP host, the RSIP Gateway, and the host. If the authors of RSIP had
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`intended that “local” should be understood as always referring to the RSIP Gateway,
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`the clear term “RSIP Gateway” could have easily been used rather than the relative
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`term “local.” Petitioner’s incredulity that the term “local” can refer to different
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`devices, in a system that comprises at least three different devices, does not provide
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`support for its interpretation.
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`Further, as noted in the POR, the Institution Decision relies on the deficient
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`showing by the Petitioner, which the Petitioner does not remedy in the Reply. POR,
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`pp. 9-10. The statement that the RSIP gateway (i.e., the RSIP server) should control
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`its own local addresses and ports is only that, a teaching that a server can control its
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`own addresses and ports. POR, p. 9. It is in no way a teaching that the RSIP server
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`allocates a session identifier comprising the local (RSIP server) addresses and ports
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`and sends the session identifier to other devices. Further, the statement “to deliver
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`parameter assignments” does not specify whether the parameters refer to server ports
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`or local ports of the mobile devices. POR, pp. 11-12. Petitioner does not even
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`attempt to address this contention relating to the parameter assignments.
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`Thus, the citations relied upon by the Institution Decision do not teach that
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`the session identifier comprises a network port associated with the RSIP server.
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`Therefore, the combination of Chambers and RSIP does not teach the recitation of
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`transmitting a request to a server to allocate a network address and port associated
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`with the server.
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`Petitioner’s assertion that a POSITA Would Have Combined
`Cordenier and TURN remains deficient (Ground 3)
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`Patent Owner’s Response explains that the Petition fails to carry the burden
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`that a POSITA would have combined Cordenier and TURN. POR, 13-16.
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`Petitioner’s Reply, pp. 12-15, confirms its reliance on the combination of Cordenier
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`and TURN (citing Paper 1 at pp. 11-14; pp. 46-49) and asserts that Patent Owner’s
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`Response rebutting
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`the Petition’s assertion of Cordenier and TURN
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`“fundamentally flawed.” Reply, p. 12.
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`However, Petitioner’s arguments are based upon a convoluted argument that
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`essentially contends that because a “relay server” and an “exchange server” are not
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`identical, it would have been obvious to combine Cordenier and TURN, even though
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`a relay server would impose the same type of limitations as an exchange server on
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`the Cordenier system that Cordenier is designed to overcome.
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`The Background section of Cordenier explains that in existing systems “the
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`system requires both parties to be connected to the internet and to have an IP address
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`assigned before a peer-to-peer communication channel can be established between
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`both parties. Ex. 1007, ¶ 4. Cordenier further explains that “To be able to exchange
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`the IP-addresses of users, it is always necessary that both users are online to the
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`Internet and that both users are registered at the same IP-exchange server.” Ex.
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`1007, ¶ 5. Thus, in Cordenier, “It is an object of the invention to provide an
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`architecture for peer-to-peer communication between a first and second terminal
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`using a data network, but without the need for a common exchange server in the
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`data network.” Id. ¶ 6 (emphasis added).
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`Regardless of whether TURN is considered to teach an exchange server or a
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`relay server, there is no doubt that it teaches a server (TURN Server) that acts as an
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`intermediary between different peers, to facilitate transmissions between the peers.
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`TURN, p. 6. To facilitate transmissions, the TURN Client has to discover the
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`address of the TURN Server. TURN, p. 8. Then the TURN Client has to send a
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`TURN allocate request to the TURN Server. Id. This intermediary interaction
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`required by TURN is precisely the type of intermediary interaction that Cordenier
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`is designed to avoid.
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`The Petitioner attempts to distinguish the TURN Server by arguing that
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`because a user may request a public IP address, and then transmit that address to a
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`recipient using a different application, such that when the recipient sends a message
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`using the IP address, the “TURN server will then transparently relay that response
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`to the initiating user.” Reply, p. 13 (citing Petition, pp. 69-71). Even assuming
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`arguendo this is true, this neither negates that coordination and initial allocation with
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`the TURN server is necessary for the communication, and does not negate that the
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`TURN server must act as an intermediary, even if the TURN server is purportedly
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`“transparent.”
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`As noted in the POR, p. 13, the incorporation of TURN, which provides a
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`relay server to forward communications between the terminals (Ex. 1002; Par. 66;
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`Ex. 1009; 4), is directly contrary to the goal of Cordenier to “provide an architecture
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`for peer-to-peer communication between a first and a second terminal using a data
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`network, but without the need of a common exchange server in the data network.”
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`Ex. 1007; ¶ 6. As TURN requires a TURN server, a POSITA, seeking to modify
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`Cordenier’s peer-to-peer communication approach without an exchange server,
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`would not incorporate TURN. Notably, Petitioner’s Declarant, even with a belated
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`and improper second Declaration, does not attempt to address this clear statement in
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`Cordenier. Ex. 1025.
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`Further, the Petitioner’s contention that the system required by TURN, which
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`requires both a TURN Server and TURN Client (TURN, p. 7), is analogous to a
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`network address translator is untenable. As shown in TURN Fig. 1 (TURN, p. 7), a
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`network address translator, or NAT, is a completely different device and performs a
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`separate function than a TURN Server or TURN Client:
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`TURN, p. 7. If a NAT is analogous to a TURN, the TURN Server and TURN Client
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`shown in TURN Fig. 1 would not be necessary in a TURN system. In fact, a NAT
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`is a device that translates an address without any requirement that it is first
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`configured or initiated by a user, unlike a TURN Server, which requires the TURN
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`Client to discover the TURN Server and then requires the TURN client to send an
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`allocation request to the TURN Server. TURN, p. 8. The belated supplemental
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`Declaration supplied by Petitioner, while touching on the use of a network address
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`translator, Ex. 1025, Para. 11, utterly fails to address this point, and thus should be
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`given no weight. Thus, there is no support for the contention that a network address
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`translator is at all similar to a TURN system comprising a TURN Server and a TURN
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`client.
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`As noted in the POR, p. 13, Petitioner’s Declarant fails to address the
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`fundamental incompatibility between the goal of Cordenier of providing a peer-to-
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`peer network without a server, and TURN’s provision of a server. Indeed,
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`Petitioner’s Declarant, in summarizing Cordenier, describes Cordenier as disclosing
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`“a method for initiating an IP-based data exchange session…between mobile
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`devices” Ex. 1002, ¶ 115, without mentioning that the object of Cordenier is to avoid
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`“the need of a common exchange server.” Ex. 1007, ¶ 6. The Petitioner’s response
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`to this contention in the Reply is to contend that “a POSITA would have understood
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`that a private IP address from one side of a NAT that is sent via SMS to a recipient
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`on the other side of a NAT would have been useless to the recipient.” Reply, p. 14.
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`However, this argument does not address Patent Owner’s contentions concerning
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`the fundamental incompatibility between Cordenier and TURN. This is simply an
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`argument to combine the references to read on the claims, regardless of the
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`compatibility of the references.
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`As previously noted, the Board’s decision states that “Petitioner relies on
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`TURN for its teaching of allocating a session identifier (IP address and port number)
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`using a TURN server to use in a data exchange session.” Paper No. 7, p. 26. The
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`allocating of IP addresses to every device is exactly contrary to Cordenier, which
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`seeks to avoid the requirement that “it is always necessary that both users are online
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`to the Internet and that both users are registered at the same IP-exchange server.”
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`Ex. 1007, ¶ 5.
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`Thus, Petitioner has not established a motivation to combine Cordenier and
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`TURN. Petitioner’s attempts to analogize a TURN to a NAT are incorrect, as are
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`Petitioner’s attempts to distinguish a relay from an exchange server, when both
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`require initiation and allocation steps that the Cordenier system teaches away from.
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`The Petition merely offers hindsight reconstruction, under which one of ordinary
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`skill familiar with Cordenier would combine it with NAT solely to provide the
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`functionality recited in the ‘877 claims.
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`Thus, because the combination of TURN with Cordenier is based upon
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`impermissible hindsight analysis, Ground 3 fails.
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`III. APJS ARE UNCONSTITUTIONALLY APPOINTED PRINCIPAL
`OFFICERS
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`As discussed in detail in the POR, (POR, pp. 17-18), Patent Owner submits
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`that APJs are principal officers under the Appointments Clause of the Constitution.
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`IV. CONCLUSION
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`For at least the reasons set forth above, Uniloc respectfully requests that the
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`Board deny all challenges in the instant Petition.2
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`Date: March 23, 2020
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`Respectfully submitted,
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`By:/Ryan Loveless/
`Ryan Loveless
`Reg. No. 51,970
`Brett A. Mangrum
`Reg. No. 64,783
`Attorneys for Patent Owner
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`2 Patent Owner does not concede, and specifically denies, that there is any
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`legitimacy to any arguments in the instant Petition that are not specifically
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`addressed herein.
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`CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE
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`Pursuant to 37 C.F.R. § 42.24(d), the undersigned certifies that the foregoing
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`complies with the type-volume limitation of 37 C.F.R. § 42.24(c)(1) because it
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`contains fewer than the limit of 5,600 words, as determined by the word- processing
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`program used to prepare the brief, excluding the parts of the brief exempted by 37
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`C.F.R. § 42.24(c).
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`Date: March 24, 2020
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`Respectfully submitted,
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`By: /Ryan Loveless/
`Ryan Loveless
`Reg. No. 51,970
`Brett A. Mangrum
`Reg. No. 64,783
`Attorneys for Patent Owner
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
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`Pursuant to 37 C.F.R. §§ 42.6(e), the undersigned certifies that an electronic
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`copy of the foregoing Sur Reply was served via email to Petitioner’s counsel at the
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`following addresses identified in the Petition’s consent to electronic service:
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`Brian Erickson (Reg. No. 48,895)
`James M. Heintz (Reg. No. 41,828)
`brian.erickson@dlapiper.com
`jim.heintz@dlapiper.com
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`Date: March 24, 2020
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`Respectfully submitted,
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`By: /Ryan Loveless/
`Ryan Loveless
`Reg. No. 51,970
`Brett A. Mangrum
`Reg. No. 64,783
`Attorneys for Patent Owner
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