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`Paper 28
`Entered: October 2, 2017
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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`PACIFIC SURF DESIGNS, INC.,
`Petitioner,
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`v.
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`SURF WAVES, LTD.,
`Patent Owner.
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`Case IPR2016-01454
`Patent 8,088,016 B2
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`Before PHILLIP J. KAUFFMAN, BEVERLY M. BUNTING, and
`JASON W. MELVIN, Administrative Patent Judges.
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`MELVIN, Administrative Patent Judge.
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`ORDER
`Request for Oral Argument
`37 C.F.R. § 42.70
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`Case IPR2016-01454
`Patent 8,088,016 B2
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`The Amended Scheduling Order for this proceeding provided that an
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`oral hearing would be conducted on November 8, 2017, if requested by
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`either party and granted by the Board. Paper 17, 2; Paper 10, 8. The parties
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`requested oral hearing pursuant to 37 C.F.R. § 42.70. Papers 19, 20. The
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`request for oral hearing is granted.
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`Please note the time and location of the hearing. The hearing will
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`commence at 1:30 PM on November 8, 2017, on the ninth floor of Madison
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`Building East, 600 Dulany Street, Alexandria, Virginia.1 The Board will
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`provide a court reporter for the hearing and the reporter’s transcript will
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`constitute the official record of the hearing. The hearing will be open to the
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`public for in-person attendance that will be accommodated on a first-come,
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`first-served basis. If the parties have any concern about disclosing
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`confidential information, they are to contact the Board at least 10 days in
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`advance of the hearing to discuss the matter.
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`Each party will have 30 minutes to present its arguments. Petitioner
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`bears the ultimate burden of proof that Patent Owner’s claims at issue in
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`these proceedings are unpatentable. Therefore, Petitioner will open the
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`hearing by presenting its case regarding the challenged claims for which the
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`Board instituted trial. After Petitioner’s presentation, Patent Owner will
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`respond to Petitioner’s argument. Petitioner may reserve rebuttal time to
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`respond to arguments presented by Patent Owner. No live testimony from
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`any witness will be taken at the oral argument. The parties may also address
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`any pending motions during their respective presentations.
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`1 See https://go.usa.gov/xRhfF for additional information.
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`The parties are reminded that under 37 C.F.R. § 42.53(f)(7), a
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`proponent of deposition testimony must file such testimony as an exhibit.
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`The Board will not consider any deposition testimony that has not been so
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`filed.
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`Furthermore, under 37 C.F.R. § 42.70(b), demonstrative exhibits must
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`be served at least seven business days before the hearing date.
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`Notwithstanding 37 C.F.R. § 42.70(b), demonstratives should be filed at the
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`Board no later than four business days before the hearing.
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`The parties should note that at least one member of the panel will be
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`attending the hearing electronically from a remote location, and that if a
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`demonstrative is not filed or otherwise made fully available or visible to the
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`judge presiding over the hearing remotely, that demonstrative will not be
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`considered. Note that demonstratives projected in the hearing room are
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`generally not visible to remote judges.
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`The parties must file any objections to the demonstratives with the
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`Board at least four business days before the hearing. Any objection to
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`demonstrative exhibits that is not presented timely will be considered
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`waived. The objections should identify with particularity which
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`demonstratives are subject to objection and include a short (one sentence or
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`less) statement of the reason for each objection. No argument or further
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`explanation is permitted. The Board will consider the objections and
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`schedule a conference if deemed necessary. Otherwise, the Board will
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`reserve ruling on the objections until after the oral argument. The parties are
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`directed to St. Jude Medical, Cardiology Division, Inc. v. The Board of
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`Regents of the University of Michigan, Case IPR2013-00041 (PTAB
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`Jan. 27, 2014) (Paper 65), for guidance regarding the appropriate content of
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`demonstrative exhibits.
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`The Board expects lead counsel for both parties to be present in
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`person at the oral hearing. Any counsel of record, however, may present a
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`party’s argument. If either party expects that its lead counsel will not be
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`attending the oral argument, it should initiate a joint telephone conference
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`with the Board no later than two business days prior to the oral hearing to
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`discuss the matter.
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`Any special requests for audiovisual equipment should be directed to
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`Trials@uspto.gov. Requests for special equipment will not be honored
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`unless presented in a separate communication not less than seven business
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`days before the hearing, directed to the above email address.
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`PETITIONER:
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`Charanjit Brahma
`TROUTMAN SANDERS LLP
`charanjit.brahma@troutmansanders.com
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`PATENT OWNER:
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`Barry Schindler
`Lennie Bersh
`Erik Squier
`GREENBERG TRAURIG, LLP
`schindlerb@gtlaw.com
`bershl@gtlaw.com
`squiere@gtlaw.com
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