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`EXHIBIT 10
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`IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
`FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLORADO
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`Civil Action No. 17-CV-02097-RBJ
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`REALTIME ADAPTIVE STREAMING, LLC,
`Plaintiff,
`vs.
`SLING TV, LLC, et al.,
`Defendants.
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`REPORTER'S TRANSCRIPT
`Trial Preparation Conference
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`Proceedings before the HONORABLE R. BROOKE JACKSON,
`Judge, United States District Court for the District of
`Colorado, commencing on the 16th day of July, 2021, in
`Courtroom A902, United States Courthouse, Denver, Colorado.
`APPEARANCES
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`For the Plaintiff:
`REZA MIRZAIE and PHILIP X. WANG and JAY CHUNG and ADAM S.
`HOFFMAN and JAMES N. PICKENS, Russ August & Kabat, 12424
`Wilshire Blvd., 12th Floor, Los Angeles, CA 90025
`ERIC B. FENSTER, Eric B. Fenster, LLC, 1522 Blake St., Ste.
`200, Denver, CO 80202
`For the Defendants:
`RUFFIN B. CORDELL and ADAM SHARTZER and BRIAN LIVEDALEN and
`DANIEL TISHMAN and MICHAEL ELLIS, Fish & Richardson, PC, 901
`15th St. NW, Ste. 700, Washington, DC 20005
`HUGH Q. GOTTSCHALK, Wheeler Trigg O'Donnell, 370 17th Street,
`Ste. 4500, Denver, CO 80202
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`Sarah K. Mitchell, RPR, CRR, 901 19th Street, Room A252,
`Denver, CO 80294, 303-335-2108
`Proceedings reported by mechanical stenography;
`transcription produced via computer.
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`17-CV-02097-RBJ
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`Trial Prep. Conference
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`take a case like this to trial to a jury it will be easier for
`you to present and easier for the jury to resolve the more you
`can simplify it, and one way to simplify it is to reduce the
`number of claims. That is not to say that the jurors will in
`any way, shape, or form be stupid. They're not. I've never
`had a dumb jury yet, and I've been at it for 23 years. And
`even in the patent case that I tried to a jury -- I think only
`one -- I was amazed at how well the jurors were able to grasp
`the concepts. But still, for the jurors and for me, and I
`suspect for you guys who are going to have the difficult task
`of presenting the case, the more you can reduce, the better.
`Okay. I'll take you at your word, Mr. Wang, that
`this is something you're willing to sit down with Mr. Cordell
`-- he said you didn't respond to his June 14th letter, so I'm
`going to take your word for it that you will be responding
`promptly and fully to his invitation to try to reduce these
`claims and the corresponding prior art that goes with them.
`Fair enough?
`MR. WANG: We -- thank you, Your Honor. This is
`Mr. Wang. We absolutely will, and we'll provide a proposal
`tonight.
`THE COURT: Good. Okay, Mr. Cordell, you had some
`other things you wanted to talk about in the instructions.
`MR. CORDELL: Yes, Your Honor. So -- and I apologize
`about not moving as quickly, but going to page 8, one of the
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`REPORTER'S CERTIFICATE
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`I, SARAH K. MITCHELL, Official Court Reporter for the
`United States District Court for the District of Colorado, a
`Registered Professional Reporter and Certified Realtime
`Reporter, do hereby certify that I reported by machine
`shorthand the proceedings contained herein at the time and
`place aforementioned and that the foregoing pages constitute a
`full, true and correct transcript.
`Dated this 20th day of July, 2021.
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` /s/ Sarah K. Mitchell
`SARAH K. MITCHELL
`Official Court Reporter
`Registered Professional Reporter
`Certified Realtime Reporter
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