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` IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
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` FOR THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS
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` TEXARKANA DIVISION
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`MAXELL, LTD., )
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` Plaintiff, )
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` vs. ) Case No.
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`APPLE, INC., ) 5:19-cv-00036-RWS
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` Defendant.
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` TELEPHONIC DEPOSITION UPON ORAL EXAMINATION OF
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` CARLA MULHERN
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`(CONTAINS CONFIDENTIAL TESTIMONY SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE
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` 8:58 a.m.
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` June 24, 2020
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`REPORTED BY: SHARON PEARCE, RMR, CRR, CRC, NYRCR
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`(TELEPHONIC APPEARANCE)
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`A P P E A R A N C E S :
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`F O R T H E P L A I N T I F F :
` K F I R B . L E V Y , E S Q .
` T I F F A N Y A . M I L L E R , E S Q .
` A L A N G R I M A L D I , E S Q .
` M A Y E R B R O W N L L P
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` a g r i m a l d i @ m a y e r b r o w n . c o m
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` ( T e l e p h o n i c a p p e a r a n c e )
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`F O R T H E D E F E N D A N T :
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` B R E T T J . W I L L I A M S O N , E S Q .
` O ' M E L V E N Y & M Y E R S L L P
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` ( T e l e p h o n i c a p p e a r a n c e )
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` A L S O P R E S E N T : D r . I t a m a r S i m o n s o n
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`p a r a g r a p h 7 4 o f y o u r r e p o r t , E x h i b i t 3 3 2 .
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` D o y o u h a v e t h a t b e f o r e y o u ,
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`M s . M u l h e r n ?
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` A . I ' m g e t t i n g t h e r e . Y e s .
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`P a r a g r a p h 7 4 . Y e s .
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` Q . T h e f i r s t s e n t e n c e o f
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`p a r a g r a p h 7 4 r e a d s , " F o r m o s t r e a l - w o r l d
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`l i c e n s e s a n d r e a s o n a b l e r o y a l t y d a m a g e s
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`a w a r d s , c o m p e n s a t i o n i s p r o v i d e d b y o n e o r
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`b o t h o f a l u m p s u m p a y m e n t a n d a
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`r o y a l t y - - a n d a r u n n i n g r o y a l t y b a s e d o n
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`s a l e s , r e v e n u e s , o r u n i t s . "
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` D i d t h e c a l c u l a t i o n y o u
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`p e r f o r m e d a s s h o w n o n E x h i b i t 4 o f y o u r
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`e x p e r t r e p o r t e m b o d y a r o y a l t y t h a t w a s
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`b a s e d o n u n i t s a l e s ?
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` Q . I s t h e c a l c u l a t i o n t h a t y o u
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`p e r f o r m e d a s e m b o d i e d i n E x h i b i t 4 o f y o u r
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`e x p e r t r e p o r t i n y o u r v i e w a s a n e x p e r t
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`a n y d i f f e r e n t t h a n t h e c a l c u l a t i o n o f a
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`r u n n i n g r o y a l t y b a s e d o n t h e u n i t s
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`i n f o r m a t i o n p r o v i d e d b y A p p l e ?
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` M R . L E V Y : O b j e c t i o n t o f o r m .
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` A . W o u l d y o u m i n d r e p e a t i n g t h a t
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`y o u p e r f o r m e d a s e m b o d i e d i n E x h i b i t 4 o f
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`y o u r e x p e r t r e p o r t a n y d i f f e r e n t t h a n w h a t
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`y o u ' v e d e s c r i b e d h e r e i n p a r a g r a p h 7 4 a s
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`t h e c a l c u l a t i o n o f a r u n n i n g r o y a l t y b a s e d
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`o n t h e u n i t s i n f o r m a t i o n p r o v i d e d b y
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`m y d a m a g e s c a l c u l a t i o n s a r e b a s e d o n a
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`u n i t a p p l i e d t o t h e n u m b e r o f u n i t s s o l d
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