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`BEFORE THE TRADEMARK TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`In re Reg. No. 2,925,808 — REVLIMID
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`Petitioner,
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`Res ondent.
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`PETITION TO CANCEL
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`CENTOCOR, lNC., a Pennsylvania corporation, having a principal place of business at 244
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`Great Valley Parkway, Malvem, Pennsylvania 19355 ("Petitioner"), believes that it is and will continue
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`to be damaged by the registration of Reg. No. 2,925,808 — REVLIMID for "pharmaceutical preparations,
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`namely, cytokine inhibitory drugs; pharmaceutical preparations that modulate the immune system";
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`registered on February 8, 2005 by Celgene Corporation, a Delaware corporation, having a business
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`address at 86 Morris Avenue, Summit, New Jersey 07901 (“Respondent”), and hereby petitions to cancel
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`the same pursuant to Section 14 of the Trademark Act of 1946 (15 U.S.C. Sec. 1064).
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`As grounds for this Petition, Petitioner states that:
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`1.
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`On October 29, 2003, Respondent filed a complaint against Petitioner in the United States
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`District Court for the District of Pennsylvania, Civil Action Number 03-5978 (“the Federal Complaint”),
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`alleging that Petitioner’s generic use of the “I.M.I.D.” acronym infringed its use of the term lMlDS.
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`2.
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`As a basis for its Federal Complaint and assertion of rights in the term llVllDS, Respondent
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`alleged that it owns a family of HVIID marks, which includes Reg. No. 2,925,808 — REVLIMID.
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`3.
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`Respondent made false statements of fact when it executed and filed a Statement of Use
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`and accompanying declaration in connection with application Ser. No. 78/188,450, which has matured
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`into Reg. No. 2,925,808 — REVLIMID. A copy of the Statement of Use, executed by Respondent’s in-
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`house counsel, Maria Pasquale,
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`is attached as Exhibit A. A copy of the accompanying declaration
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`(“Declaration”), also signed by Ms. Pasquale, is attached as Exhibit B.
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`4.
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`Respondent’s Statement of Use in connection with Ser. No. 78/188,450 — REVLIMID
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`was filed on August 11, 2004. The Statement of Use claims use of the REVL11VIlD mark in interstate
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`commerce to identify "pharmaceutical preparations, namely, cytokine inhibitory drugs; pharmaceutical
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`preparations that modulate the immune system" since June 3, 2004.
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`5.
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`Respondent’s Statement of Use represents that the REVLIMID mark “is used on labels,
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`tags, the goods themselves, and in other ways customary in the trade.” Ex. A, Statement of Use 1[ 4.
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`6.
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`The specimen attached to the Statement of Use, however, does not demonstrate use of
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`REVLIMID on labels, tags or the goods themselves, but instead shows use of the mark on trade show
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`booth panels. See Ex. B, Declaration 1l 5. Ms. Pasquale’s accompanying Declaration thus was offered to
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`explain how the REVLIMID mark nevertheless had been used in interstate commerce.
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`7.
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`Ms. Pasquale admitted, however, in an April 21, 2005 deposition that key statements in
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`her sworn Declaration were false and misleading. Excerpts from this deposition (“Pasquale Dep.”) are
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`attached as Exhibit C; (lines from these excerpts that are redacted have been designated as “confidential”
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`by Respondent in pending litigation and thus are not included.)
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`8.
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`Ms. Pasquale, for example, begins the body of her Declaration with the statement that
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`“Applicant has marketed and offered to sell its REVLIMID compounds to various potential purchasers,
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`such as pharmaceutical companies.” Ex. B, Declaration 1] 4. This statement implied that REVLIl\/IID
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`products were for sale in commerce and that pharmaceutical companies and others could buy them.
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`9.
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`In her deposition, however, Ms. Pasquale explained that the purpose of the trade show
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`booths was not to make sales but to interest other pharmaceutical companies in becoming licensees of the
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`REVLIMID product. See Ex. C, Pasquale Dep. at 202-203, 252. Thus, Respondent was not selling or
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`offering to sell its REVLIMID product, but was courting business partners to enter into joint business
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`ventures.
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`10.
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`Ms. Pasquale then attested in her Declaration that “Applicant attends various trade shows
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`and has offered to sell its REVLIMID compounds at these shows. For example, the specimens submitted
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`in support of the Statement of Use were panels on the booth used at the American Society of Clinical
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`Oncology in New Orleans. Potential purchasers can purchase the REVLIMID compounds at the trade
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`shows. These booths acted as sales counters for the Applicant’s products.” Ex. B, Declaration 1[ 5. These
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`statements affirrnatively represented to the Patent and Trademark Office that Respondent had offered and
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`was offering its REVLIMID products for sale at the trade show booths.
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`11.
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`But in her deposition Ms. Pasquale conceded that these representations were false. She
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`recanted her sworn statement that Respondent’s trade show booths “acted as sales counters for the
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`Applicant’s products”: “On reflection, I would have preferred that it said information counters. I agree that
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`it was a bad choice to say sales counters.” Ex. C., Pasquale Dep. at 254-255, 257-258. She also admitted
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`that no order forms or price lists were available at the trade show booths. Id. at 254. Potential consumers
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`of the REVLIMID pharmaceutical preparations could not order or buy them at these booths;
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`they could do
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`no more than request product information. Id. at 252, 254.
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`12.
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`Ms. Pasquale also swore in her Declaration that “Applicant also offers for sale its
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`REVLIMID compounds through slide presentations made to potential consumers.” Ex. B, Declaration 1] 6.
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`This statement again affirrnatively represented, in support of registration, that Respondent was offering to
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`sell its REVLIMID pharmaceutical to persons who required the drug.
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`13.
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`This statement, however, was also false and misleading. Ms. Pasquale admitted that the
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`purpose of the slide shows was not to get purchase orders for the REVLIMID product, but to secure
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`business partners or licensees for the REVLIMID drug, and that “potential consumers” referred to were in
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`fact other pharmaceutical companies. Ex. C., Pasquale Dep. at 256-257. Ms. Pasquale conceded that “[o]n
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`reflection .
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`. I would prefer that [the declaration] said customers rather than consumers.” Id. at 257.
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`14.
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`In fact, when Respondent made these several representations of the availability for sale to
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`consumers of the REVLIMID product subject to Reg. No. 2,925,808, the REVLIMID product had not been
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`approved for sale by the United States Food and Drug Administration (“FDA”). Indeed, to this day the
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`product has not received FDA approval. See Pasquale Dep. (Ex. C.) at 259. Accordingly, Respondent
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`cannot lawfully sell or offer to sell REVLIMID pharmaceuticals to consumers.
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`15.
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`As Ms. Pasquale admitted in her Deposition, the purpose of Respondent’s trade show
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`booths was not
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`to act as “sales counters,” but merely to provide information about REVLIMID
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`pharmaceutical preparations. Ex. C, Pasquale Dep. at 254-455.
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`16.
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`Providing information about a potential product without contemporaneously offering to sell
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`the product itself is not sufficient to establish “use in commerce” of a mark.
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`17.
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`Because Respondent did not submit any specimens sufficient
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`to demonstrate “use in
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`commerce” of the REVLIMID mark, Reg. No. 2,925,808 is invalid.
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`18.
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`For the reasons set forth in the foregoing paragraphs 1- 17, Petitioner believes that it is
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`and will continue to be damaged by Reg. No. 2,925,808 — REVLIMID, and therefore, files this petition
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`to cancel it.
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`WHEREFORE, Petitioner requests that this cancellation petition be sustained and that Reg. No.
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`2,925,808 be canceled.
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`A duplicate copy of this petition and our check to cover the $300 government filing fee are
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`enclosed. Should additional fees be required, please charge them to the deposit account of Applicant’s
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`counsel, No. 50-0573.
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`Respectfully submitted,
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`CENTOCOR INC.
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`1 son M. Brow
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`Norm D. St. Landau
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`Christen M. English
`Drinker Biddle & Reath LLP
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`1500 K Street, N.W., Suite 1100
`Washington, D.C. 20005
`Tel: (202) 842-8800
`Fax: (202) 842-8465
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`Attorneys for Petitioner
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`IN THE UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`Applicant:
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`Serial No.:
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`Mark:
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`Celgene Corporation
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`78/188,450
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`REVLIMID
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`Notice of Allowance Issue Date:
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`September 30, 2003
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`Box ITU
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`Commissioner for Trademarks
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`2900 Crystal Drive
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`Dear Sir:
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`STATEMENT OF USE UNDER § 2.88
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`Applicant requests registration of the above-identified trademark in the United States
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`Patent and Trademark Office on the Principal Register established by the Act of July 5, 1946, 15
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`U.S.C. § 1051 et. s'eq., as amended. One specimen showing the mark as used in commerce is
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`submitted with this statement.
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`Applicant is using the mark in commerce on all the goods identified in the Notice of
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`Allowance in this application.
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`The mark was first used on the goods at least as early as February 19, 2004; was first
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`used on connection with the goods in interstate commerce at least as early as June 3, 2004; and is
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`now in use in such commerce. Applicant is also submitting herewith an additional Declaration
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`describing the goods and how the mark is used on the goods.
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`The mark is used on labels, tags, the goods themselves, and in other ways customary in
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`the trade. One specimen showing the mark as actually used is presented herewith.
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`The undersigned, being hereby warned that willful false statements and the like so made
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`are punishable by fine or imprisonment, or both, under 18 U.S.C. § 1001, and that such willful
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`false statements may jeopardize the validity of the application or any resulting registration,
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`declares that she is properly authorized to execute this Statement of Use on behalf of the
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`applicant; that she believes the applicant to be the owner of the trademark sought to be
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`registered; the trademark is now in use in commerce; and all statements made of her own
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`knowledge are true and all statements made on information and belief are believed to be true.
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`Serial No. 78/188,450
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`IN THE UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`Applicant:
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`Serial No.:
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`Mark:
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`Celgene Corporation
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`78/188,450
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`REVLIMID
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`Notice of Allowance Issue Date:
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`September 30, 2003
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`Box RESPONSES
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`Commissioner for Trademarks
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`2900 Crystal Drive
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`Dear Sir:
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`DECLARATION
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`I, Maria E. Pasquale, Esq., declare that:
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`1.
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`I am counsel for the Applicant corporation, that the specimens that are submitted
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`in support of the mark REVLIMID were in use in commerce prior to the expiration ofthe time
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`allowed to the Applicant for filing a Statement of Use.
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`2.
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`Celgene Corporation, is an independent biopharmaceutical company engaged
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`primarily in the discovery, development and commercialization of small molecule drugs for
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`treatment of cancer and inflammatory diseases through gene regulation.
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`3.
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`Applicant's R.EVLlMlD compounds are novel, small molecule, analogs of
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`Applicant’s THALOMID® compound and are designed to be more potent than Applicant’s
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`THALOMID® compound and have demonstrated an improved safety profile in clinical trials
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`when compared with Applicant's TI-IA.LOMlD® compound.
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`4.
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`Applicant has marketed and offered to sell its REVLIMID compounds to various
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`potential purchasers, such as pharmaceutical companies. Applicant also tests the effectiveness
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`and corresponding side effects ofits REVLIMID compounds through clinical trials with various
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`clinicians and drug candidates.
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`5.
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`Applicant attends various trade shows and has offered to sell its REVLIMID
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`compound at these shows. For example, the specimens submitted in support of the Statement of
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`Use were panels on the booth used at the American Society of Clinical Oncology in New
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`Orleans. Potential purchasers can purchase the REVLIMID compounds at the trade shows.
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`These booths acted as sales counters for the Applicant’s products. The REVLIMID mark was
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`6.
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`Applicant also offers for sale its R.EVI.lMlD compounds through slide
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`presentations made to potential consumers.
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`Applicant declares that all statements made herein are uue and that all statements made
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`on infonnation and belief are believed to be true; and fiirther that these statements are made with
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`the knowledge that willful false statements and the like so made are punishable by fine or
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`imprisonment, or both, under Section 1001 ofTitle 18 of the United States Code and that such
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`willful false statements mayjeopardize the validity of this application and any registration
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`resulting therefrom.
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`S/OW
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`IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
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`FOR THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF PENNSYLVANIA
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`CELGENE CORPORATION,
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`CIVIL ACTION
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`Plaintiff,
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`CENTOCOR,
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`INC.,
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`Defendant.
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`03-CV—5978—RB
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`April 21, 2005
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`Oral deposition of MARIA
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`PASQUALE, ESQUIRE,
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`taken pursuant
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`12:39 p.m., on the above date, before
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`Kristy L. Liedtka,
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`Reporter and Notary Public in and for the
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`Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
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`ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SERVICES
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`Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19103
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`COZEN O'CONNOR
`CELG08793—08798
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`BY: CAMILLE M. MILLER, ESQUIRE
`1900 Market Street
`Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19103
`(215) 665-2000
`Representing the Plaintiff
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`(It is hereby stipulated and
`agreed by and between counsel that
`sealing, filing and certification
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`MARIA E. PASQUALE, ESQUIRE
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`BY MR. BROWN:
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`Q. Would you please state your
`full name for the record?
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`A. Maria Elena Pasquale.
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`Q. My name is Wilson Brown. I
`represent Centocor in a case that's been
`filed by Celgene Corporation against
`Centocor in the District Court for .the
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`Eastern District of Pennsylvania.
`We've asked for your
`deposition here today to ask you some
`questions about that case. I understand
`you're employed by Celgene?
`A. That's correct.
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`Q. What is your title?
`A. Vice president legal, chief
`counsel.
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`Q. Let me just lay down some
`simple ground rules for you, Ms.
`Pasquale. I'll be putting questions to
`you, I'd appreciate it if you'd wait
`until I finish my question before you
`answer.
`I will try to keep the questions
`to the point and give you a chance to
`hear them before you answer, but try not
`to talk over my questions, if you could.
`Secondly, if at any time you
`don't understand my question, please let
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`want to be sure you understand the
`questions that are put to you before you
`answer them. So if at any time you're
`not clear on what I'm asking, please let
`me know. I'll try to restate it for you.
`If you answer my question, I'm going to
`assume that you've heard it and that yo
`understood it and that you're answering
`it to the best of your ability. Is that
`fair enough?
`A. Yes.
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`Q. Thirdly, if at any time you
`wish to consult with Ms. Miller, please
`let me know, and you'll have an
`opportunity to do that. Okay?
`A. Yes.
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`Q. Finally, we'll try to take a
`break every hour or so just to let people
`stretch and clear their heads. Okay?
`A. Yes.
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`Q. Have you ever been deposed
`before, Ms. Pasquale?
`A. N0.
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`MR. BROWN: Off the record
`for one second.
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`(A discussion off the record
`occurred.)
`BY MR. BROWN:
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`Q. Ms. Pasquale, can you tell
`me your educational background beginning
`with college?
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`Stony Brook University.
`graduated with a degree in biochemistry
`in 1986. Iwent to law school in 1988,
`graduated in 1992. Brooklyn Law School.
`Q. Okay. When did you enroll
`in Stony Brook?
`A.
`1982.
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`Q. Did you enroll in Stony
`Brook immediately after completing high
`school?
`A. Yes.
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`Q. Okay. Do you have a B.S.
`from Stony Brook? Is that the nature of
`your degree?
`A. Yes.
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`from Stony Brook, where were you first
`employed?
`A. Cold Spring Harbor
`Laboratory.
`Q. And where is that?
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`In Long Island.
`Q. How long were you employed
`there?
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`A. Two years.
`Q. That would have been from
`1986 until you enrolled in law school?
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`I went to another lab after
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`that.
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`Q. Oh, okay. In what sort of
`research was the Cold Spring Harbor
`Laboratory engaged?
`A. Adenovirus.
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`Q. What was it researching
`about adenovirus?
`A. Back then a lot less was
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`understood about transformation of cells
`and we studied the effects on DNA.
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`Q. And what was your position
`at the lab?
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`I don't recall my specific
`A.
`title, but it was in the area of lab
`technician.
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`Q. Did your position ever
`change during that two years you were at
`Cold Spring Harbor Lab?
`A. No.
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`Q. Was the lab organized into
`research teams or groups?
`A. Yes.
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`Q. Were you assigned to a
`particular team or group?
`A. The structure was such that
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`it was very basic research, not
`commercial.
`It was indirectly under --
`in the lab of James Watson and I reported
`directly to a post doc for James Watson.
`Q.
`Is the Cold Spring Harbor
`Lab affiliated with any other entity?
`A.
`I couldn't be certain of
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`that nowadays.
`Q. Was it at the time you were
`there?
`A. No.
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`Q. Was the adenovirus research
`you were engaged in undertaken on behal
`of any other entity?
`A.
`I don't know.
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`Q. Why did you leave the employ
`of Cold Spring Harbor Lab in 1988?
`A.
`It was far from my home and
`I received a job offer much closer.
`Q. And what was thatjob offer?
`A. Assistant research scientist
`at the Institute of Basic Research in
`Staten Island.
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`Q. And what was the institute
`researching?
`A. Genetic work.
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`Q. How long did you work at the
`institute?
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`Five years.
`A.
`Q. Would that take us through
`1993?
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`I -- actually, I left in --
`A.
`maybe it was four years.
`I worked there
`until 2001 —— I'm sorry, 1991.
`I
`attended law school at night.
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`Q. What was the nature of your
`work at the institute?
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`A. Basic genetic research.
`Q. Was this on the human
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`genome?
`A. Yes. Yes.
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`Q. Other animal genomes?
`A. At times.
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`Q. Were there particular facets
`of human and animal genomes that you wer :
`focused on?
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`Fragile X syndrome.
`A.
`Q. Any others?
`A. That was the primary one.
`Q. Okay. What is Fragile X
`syndrome?
`A. The most common cause of
`retardation.
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`Q. And that is an abnormality
`in an X chromosome?
`A. Uh—huh. Yes.
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`Q. You said you attended the
`Brooklyn Law School at night?
`A. Uh—huh.
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`I believe I heard you
`Q.
`earlier to say you started in 1988 with
`your night studies and completed your
`work at the law school in 1992; is that
`right?
`Standard four-year program.
`A.
`Q. And that was all done at
`night?
`A. Yes.
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`Q. All right. In the period
`1991 to '92, were you still working at
`the institute?
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`For part of the year. In
`A.
`1991 I became a summer associate.
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`Q. Was that at a law firm?
`A. Yes.
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`Q. Let me focus on your law
`school studies for a moment. Did you
`ever take any courses in trademark law
`when you were in law school?
`A.
`I believe I took one.
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`Q. Okay. What was the title of
`that course?
`A.
`I don't recall.
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`Q. Was it strictly devoted to
`trademark law or did it also cover other
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`subjects?
`A.
`I believe it was trademarks
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`exclusively, but I don't recall it
`entirely.
`Q. Did you take any courses in
`food and drug law when you were at
`Brooklyn Law School?
`A. No.
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`Q. Did you ever have any
`occasion in law school to study the Food,
`Drug and Cosmetics Act?
`A.
`I don't believe so.
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`Q. You said you worked as a
`summer associate?
`A. Uh-huh.
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`In 1991?
`Q.
`A. Yes.
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`Q. Where were you a summer
`associate?
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`A.
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`Pennie & Edmonds.
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`Q. Was this in New York City?
`A. Yes.
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`Q. Now, after you finished your
`work as a summer associate at Pennie &
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`Edmonds, did you return to the institute?
`A. No.
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`Q. Did you have any employment
`following your summer tenure at Pennie J‘
`Edmonds?
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`I worked part-time as a law
`A.
`clerk at Pennie & Edmonds.
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`Q. And following graduation
`from Brooklyn Law School, did you work
`full-time at Pennie & Edmonds?
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`A. Yes. Starting that
`September.
`Q. How long did you work for
`Pennie & Edmonds full-time?
`A.
`I worked there full-time
`until 1995.
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`Q. Okay. Thereafter did you
`work at Pennie & Edmonds part-time?
`A. Yes.
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`Q. For how long?
`A.
`I left —- I had taken
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`various time off throughout that period.
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`I left Pennie & Edmonds in 2001.
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`Q. When you say, "throughout
`that period", do you mean from the period
`1995 through 2001?
`A. Yes.
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`Q. Now, was the part-time
`arrangement in connection with child
`rearing?
`A. Yes.
`
`Q. Any other reasons you were
`taking time off besides child rearing?
`A. No.
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`Q. Now, when you were at Pennie
`& Edmonds, did you ever deal with any
`trademark matters?
`A.
`I had no direct
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`responsibility in the trademark area.
`Q. Where were your direct
`responsibilities?
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`In the biotech group
`A.
`relating to patents.
`Q. Did you ever receive any
`training at Pennie & Edmonds in trademar
`law?
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`A. No.
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`Q. How about in patent law?
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`that patent and state that it's either
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`not infringed or the patent is invalid.
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`Q. Any other matters that you
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`7 Edmonds that involved the FDA, other than
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`A. Occasional internal
`seminars.
`Q. Other than the seminars, was
`it on-the-job training as to patent law?
`A. Yes.
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`A. Yes.
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`Q. When were you admitted to
`the patent bar?
`A.
`I believe it was 1993.
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`Q. Now, were there any courses
`you took to prepare for admission to the
`patent bar?
`A. Yes. There's a standard
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`preparation course.
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`Q. And then an examination you
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`trials?
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`Primarily product liability.
`A.
`Q. What topics do you recall
`were discussed at the courses on
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`liability as to clinical trials that you
`mentioned a moment ago?
`A. The process of clinical
`trials to some extent and the law —— the
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`case law involving clinical trials.
`Q. And this case law had to do
`chiefly with drug maker's potential
`liability to those involved in the
`clinical trial?
`A. Yes.
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`Q. To what state bars are you
`admitted?
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`A. New York and New Jersey.
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`A.
`1993.
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`Q. How about New Jersey?
`A.
`I believe it was December
`of 2000 —- 1992.
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`Q. Are you still a member in
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`Q. When you were at Pennie &
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`16
`to handle any matter that involved the
`17 Food and Drug Administration?
`18
`A.
`Insofar as Paragraph IV
`19
`litigations for generic drugs.
`20
`Q. What is a Paragraph IV
`21
`litigation for generic drugs?
`22
`A. When a generic company wants
`23
`to market an approved drug, if there are
`patents listed in something known as the
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`the Paragraph IV matters you just
`described?
`A. No.
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`Q. Have you ever attended any
`continuing legal education programs on
`the subject of trademark law?
`A. Not that I can specifically
`recall.
`
`Q. How about in food and drug
`law, have you ever attended any
`continuing legal education programs in
`food and drug law?
`A.
`I have gone to certain ones
`relating to liability with clinical
`trials.
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`Q. What do you mean by
`liability with respect to clinical
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`A. No. What I meant was thatl
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`at case law relating to something more of
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`trademarks, but more of a summary
`judgment type issue or procedural issue.
`Q. Would those have been
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`research assignments?
`19
`A. Very basic research
`20
`assignments.
`21
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`See, you're on my turf now.
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`A. Yes.
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`Q. Have you ever been the
`subject of any disciplinary complaint?
`A. No.
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`Q. Have you ever been the
`subject of any disciplinary proceedings?
`A. No.
`
`Q. Are you admitted to the bar
`of any federal court?
`A. The Federal Circuit, New
`Jersey, District of New Jersey and I
`believe the Southern District of New
`York.
`
`Q. Are you still a member in
`good standing of the bars of those
`federal courts?
`A. Yes.
`
`Q. Now, you mentioned you're a
`member of the patent bar, are there any
`other bars of which you're a member tha
`we haven't spoken?
`A. No.
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`Q. Other than the Paragraph IV
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`litigation you mentioned, did you have
`any responsibility for any litigation
`matters when you were at Pennie &
`Edmonds?
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`A. Are you asking if I was
`involved in other litigation other than
`Paragraph IV?
`Q. Yes.
`A. Yes.
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`Q. What other kinds of
`litigation were you involved with?
`A.
`Patent litigation, patent
`infringement.
`Q. Any others?
`A. No.
`
`Q. Okay. How much of your time
`was devoted to patent litigation?
`A. About 80 percent up until
`about 1995.
`
`Q. Now, do you distinguish --
`when you say, "patent litigation", are
`you including patent prosecutions in the
`patent and trademark office?
`A. No.
`
`Q. You're referring to court
`lawsuits?
`A. Yes.
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`So 80 percent of your time
`Q.
`was devoted to lawsuits filed in court,
`at least up until 1995?
`A. Yes.
`
`Q. When you went on a part-time
`basis, approximately how much of the tim-
`that you put in at the firm was devoted
`to patent litigation?
`A. Zero.
`
`Q. Okay. What did your work
`concentrate in when you were on a
`part-time basis?
`A.
`Patent prosecution.
`Q. When you were involvedtwith
`patent litigation, did you ever have
`occasion to take any depositions?
`A. Not -— no.
`
`Q. Did you ever have occasion
`to brief any summary judgment motions?
`A. Yes.
`
`Q. Did you ever have occasion
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`to submit affidavits in support of those
`motions?
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`A. To prepare them?
`Q. Yes.
`A. Yes.
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`Q. Okay. Were you ever
`involved in any efforts to seek
`preliminary injunctive relief in a patent
`litigation?
`A. No.
`
`Q. When you prepared affidavits
`in summary judgment motions -- let me
`withdraw that.
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`How did you go about
`preparing affidavits in summary judgmen
`cases?
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`A. As I'm sure you can imagine,
`most patent litigation is very involved
`and very intensive.
`It generally
`involves a team of attorneys.
`I was a
`junior associate and I might look through
`documents and assist with the technical
`aspects.
`Q. Well, was it part of your
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`Q. Provided that -- if, in
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`fact, they contain any references to the
`term IMIDs. We don't need them if they
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`don't. We'll just get a stipulation that
`theydon%.
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`Paragraph 4 states that,
`"Applicant has marketed and offered to
`sell its IMIDS compounds to various
`potentkd purchasers" «
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`companies."
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`Q. What potential purchasers
`are referred to?
`Ix. Licensees.
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`constituting a declaration?
`A. Wait. I'm sorry. Let me
`make sure.
`I thought that was the page
`you referred me to.
`Q.
`I'm sorry. There was two
`pages I was referring you to.
`A. Oh, okay.
`Q. One is 61 and the other is
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`63.
`
`A. Yes.
`
`Q. Now, the statement of use
`bears the date 8/10/04?
`A. Yes.
`
`Q. Right. And the declaration
`bears the same date, correct?
`A. Yes.
`
`Q. The statement of use for
`Revlimid, the mark Revlimid, states that
`"The mark was first used on the goods at
`least as early as February 19, 2004."
`A. Yes.
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`Q. Do you see that statement?
`What was the basis for that
`statement?
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`A. That we had used the term on
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`various types of documents and items at
`that point.
`Q. What types of documents and
`items was the term Revlimid used on at
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`that point?
`A.
`For example, the one that's
`attached to the declaration.
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`Q. And the one that's attached
`to the declaration is another booth
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`A. Yes.
`
`Q. Ms. Pasquale, does this
`chart in any way associate the drug
`Thalomid with the mark IMID?
`A. Associate?
`
`Q. Yes.
`A.
`I guess it depends on what
`you mean by association, but they are
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`proceed IMIDs.
`Q. And Thalomid is set out
`separately from IMIDs, correct?
`A. Uh-huh.
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`Q. Yes? Is that a yes?
`A. Yes.
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`Is it inevitable that a
`Q.
`person looking at this chart, 8639, would
`associate IMIDs with Thalomid?
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`MS. MILLER: Objection.
`She's not going know what a person
`is thinking.
`MR. BROWN: I'm just asking
`her --
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`THE WITNESS:
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`I don't know
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`it's inevitable, but -— I don't
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`know. Yes -— some yes probably,
`some no.
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`MR. BROWN: Can you mark
`this as Exhibit 8.
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`(Pasquale—8 marked for
`identification.)
`BY MR. BROWN:
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`Q. For the record, we've marked
`as Exhibit 8 a document that bears Bates
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`to be a transmittal on a statement of use
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`panel?
`A. Yes.
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`under Section 2.88 with respect to the
`mark Revlimid.
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`Ms. Pasquale, have you had a
`chance to glance through this exhibit?
`A. Yes.
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`Is this your signature that
`Q.
`appears on page 08761, the second page of
`the stat