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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`QUALCOMM INCORPORATED and
`ZYXEL COMMUNICATIONS CORPORATION,
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`Petitioner,
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`v.
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`UNM RAINFOREST INNOVATIONS,
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`Patent Owner.
`_____________________
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`IPR2021-00375
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`Patent 8,265,096 B2
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`PETITIONER’S REPLY TO
`PATENT OWNER’S RESPONSE TO PETITION
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`Table of Contents
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`INTRODUCTION ........................................................................................... 1
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`I.
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`II.
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`ARGUMENT ................................................................................................... 3
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`A.
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`Talukdar is prior art, because nothing in the record indicates
`that the ’096 Patent is entitled to an earlier priority date ...................... 3
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`1.
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`2.
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`Patent Owner’s Response applies the wrong standard in
`arguing that the ’798 Application supports an earlier
`priority date ................................................................................. 5
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`The supplemental declaration from Dr. Vojcic
`improperly imports elements from the POSITA and
`makes unsupportable assumptions .............................................. 6
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`B.
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`C.
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`The Board should reject Patent Owner’s argument that Dr.
`Roy’s declaration should be accorded no weight ................................ 11
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`Ground 1: Claim 1–4 and 6–7 are invalid as obvious over
`Talukdar in view of Li. ........................................................................ 12
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`D. Ground 2: Claim 8 is obvious over Talukdar in view of
`Nystrom, and the Petition, Dr. Roy’s declaration, and Dr.
`Vojcic’s declaration provide sufficient motivation for this
`combination ......................................................................................... 14
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`E.
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`Patent Owner has not made an adequate showing of secondary
`considerations of non-obviousness ..................................................... 22
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`III. CONCLUSION .............................................................................................. 22
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`EXHIBIT LIST
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`(“Talukdar
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`Exhibit
`Ex. 1001
`Ex. 1002
`Ex. 1003
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`Description
`U.S. Patent No. 8,265,096 (“the ’096 patent”)
`Declaration of Dr. Sumit Roy (“Roy”)
`Sand Revolution II, LLC v. Continental Intermodal Group-Trucking
`LLC, Paper 24, IPR2019-01393 (PTAB June 16, 2020)
`Eleventh Supplemental Order Regarding Court Operations Under
`Exigent Circumstances Created by the Covid 19 Pandemic (W.D.
`Tex. Dec. 10, 2020)
`Excerpts from JEFFREY G. ANDREWS ET AL., FUNDAMENTALS OF
`WIMAX (2007)
`Five Criteria Statement for P802.16m PAR Proposal, IEEE 802.16-
`06/055r3 (Nov. 15, 2006)
`IEEE 802.16m System Requirements, IEEE 802.16m-07/002r4
`(Oct. 19, 2007)
`Listing of Challenged ’096 Patent Claims
`U.S. Provisional App. No. 60/929,798
`Excerpts from ’096 Patent File History
`Claim Construction Order in STC.UNM v. Apple Inc., No. 1-20-cv-
`00351 (W.D. Tex. Apr. 9, 2020), ECF No. 69 (“Markman Order”)
`U.S. Pub. No. 2009/0067377 A1 (“Talukdar”)
`U.S. Provisional Application No. 60/956,031
`Provisional”)
`Canadian Patent Application No. 2 581 166 A1 (“Wang”)
`Ex. 1014
`Ex. 1015 WIPO Handbook on
`Industrial Property
`Information and
`Documentation, “Examples and Kinds of Patent Documents” (May
`2016)
`U.S. Pub. No. 2007/0155387 A1 (“Li”)
`U.S. Pub. No. 2007/0104174 A1 (“Nystrom”)
`U.S. Pub. No. 2008/0095195 (“Ahmadi”)
`Excerpts from William Stallings, WIRELESS COMMUNICATIONS AND
`NETWORKS (2D ED. 2005)
`U.S. Patent No. 7,460,466 B2 (“Lee”)
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`Ex. 1004
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`Ex. 1005
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`Ex. 1006
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`Ex. 1007
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`Ex. 1008
`Ex. 1009
`Ex. 1010
`Ex. 1011
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`Ex. 1012
`Ex. 1013
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`Ex. 1016
`Ex. 1017
`Ex. 1018
`Ex. 1019
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`Ex. 1020
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`Exhibit
`Ex. 1021
`Ex. 1022
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`Ex. 1024
`Ex. 1025
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`Ex. 1026
`Ex. 1027
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`Ex. 1028
`Ex. 1029
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`Ex. 1030
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`Ex. 1031
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`Description
`U.S. Patent No. 8,462,611 B2 (“Ma”)
`Fixed, nomadic, portable and mobile applications for 802.16-2004
`and 802.16e WiMAX networks (November 2005)
`Ex. 1023 Mohammad Azizul Hasan, Performance Evaluation
`WiMAX/IEEE 802.16 OFDM Physical Layer (June 2007)
`U.S. Patent No. 7,710,910 B2 (“Ode”)
`IEEE 802.16m System Requirements, IEEE 802.16m-07/002r4 (Jan.
`12, 2007)
`U.S. Pub. No. 2004/0037215 A1 (“Hwang”)
`Yasamin Mostofi, ICI Mitigation for Pilot-Aided OFDM Mobile
`Systems (IEEE, Vol. 4, No. 2, Mar. 2005)
`Declaration of Dr. Robert Akl
`Scott McKeown, District Court Trial Dates Tend to Slip After PTAB
`Discretionary Denials, Patents Post Grant (available at:
`https://www.patentspostgrant.com/district-court-trial-dates-tend-to-
`slip-after-ptab-discretionary-denials/)
`Declaration of Jonah D. Mitchell in Support of Petitioners’ Motion
`for Pro Hac Vice Admission
`Declaration of Christine M. Morgan in Support of Petitioners’
`Motion for Pro Hac Vice Admission
`ITRI’s Recorded Assignment, Reel/Frame No. 045200/0980
`Sino Matrix’s Recorded Assignment, Reel/Frame No. 021275/0468
`UNM’s Recorded Assignment, Reel/Frame No. 046854/0173
`June 22, 2021 hearing transcript before Judge Albright in UNM’s
`litigations against Dell and ASUSTek.
`Printout from Public PAIR showing the correspondence address of
`record for the ’096 patent
`Excerpt of ’096 file history showing ITRI’s prosecution counsel
`February 9, 2022 Deposition Transcript of Dr. Branimir Vojcic for
`IPR2021-00375
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`Ex. 1032
`Ex. 1033
`Ex. 1034
`Ex. 1035
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`of
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`Ex. 1036
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`Ex. 1037
`Ex. 1038
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`I.
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`INTRODUCTION
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`Petitioner submits this Reply to Patent Owner’s Corrected Response,1 Paper
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`38 (“Response” or “Resp.”) in the inter partes review of U.S. Patent No. 8,265,096
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`(“the ’096 Patent”). The Response consists almost entirely of verbatim repetition of
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`the arguments in Patent Owner’s Preliminary Response (“Preliminary Response” or
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`“Prelim. Resp.”), which the Board already considered and largely rejected in issuing
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`its Decision Granting Institution of Inter Partes Review. See Paper 14 (“Institution
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`Decision” or “I.D.”). The only passages containing substantive new content in the
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`Response over the Preliminary Response are: 1) additional paragraphs relying on a
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`supplemental declaration from Dr. Vojcic to argue that Talukdar is not prior art
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`(Resp. at 28–33); and 2) a paragraph arguing that Dr. Roy’s declaration should be
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`accorded no weight (Resp. at 34). Patent Owner’s additional argument regarding
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`the prior art status of Talukdar fails because it does not apply the correct standard
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`for written description required to support an earlier priority date, and does not even
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`attempt to show possession within the disclosure of the provisional application. See
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`Ariad Pharm., Inc. v. Eli Lilly and Co., 598 F.3d 1336, 1352 (Fed. Cir. 2010) (en
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`banc) (“the specification must describe an invention understandable to that skilled
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`1 Patent Owner filed a Corrected Response on Feb. 17, 2022 to replace the
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`Response it filed on Dec. 7, 2021 as Paper 28.
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`artisan and show that the inventor actually invented the invention claimed”).
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`Instead, the new argument relies upon Patent Owner’s expert’s attempt to fill gaps
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`with the knowledge of a POSITA. See, e.g., Resp. at 31–32 (“a POSITA would
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`understand that OFDM systems are sensitive to frequency errors and Doppler shifts
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`and that Intercarrier interference in OFDM increased with Doppler shift.”).
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`However, this is insufficient. See Ariad, 598 F.3d at 1351 (“a description that merely
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`renders the invention obvious does not satisfy the requirement”).
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`Because Patent Owner’s new argument fails to apply the proper standard,
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`nothing in the “supplemented” record changes the Board’s conclusion that Talukdar
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`is prior art. Instead, as discussed below, Patent Owner’s supplemented record
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`actually supports Petitioner’s argument that a POSITA would be motivated to
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`combine Talukdar and Nystrom.
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`Indeed, the Board correctly rejected the arguments presented in Patent
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`Owner’s Preliminary Response, and the new arguments presented in Patent Owner’s
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`Response do not change the outcome. For the reasons set forth in the Petition, and
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`as the Board reasoned in granting institution, the challenged claims of the ’096
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`Patent are unpatentable and should be cancelled.
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`II. ARGUMENT
`A. Talukdar is prior art, because nothing in the record indicates that
`the ’096 Patent is entitled to an earlier priority date
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`In its Preliminary Response, Patent Owner argued that Talukdar is not prior
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`art because all of the challenged claims are supported by the disclosure of
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`Provisional Patent Application No. 60/929,798 (“the ’798 Application”). See Paper
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`8 at 24–37. Both the Preliminary Response and Patent Owner’s Response rely on
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`Dr. Vojcic’s opinion that “[a] POSITA would have known all elements of the ’096
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`inventions of claims 1–8 from [the ’798 Application] disclosure.” Ex. 2001 at ¶ 53.
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`In the supplemental declaration supporting Patent Owner’s Response, Dr. Vojcic
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`attempts to provide additional factual bases to support his original opinion but does
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`not describe or apply the proper legal standard for written description. Ex. 2001 at
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`¶ 53; Ex. 1038 (Vojcic Tr.) at 21:6 – 22:7 (confirming that Dr. Vojcic’s standard was
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`that “a POSITA would have known all elements of the [challenged claims] from the
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`provisional”). Patent Owner’s Response should not change the Board’s preliminary
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`conclusion that Talukdar is prior art for at least two reasons.
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`First, Dr. Vojcic’s opinion, quoted above, is irrelevant, because it applies the
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`wrong standard. As the Board stated in its Decision on Institution:
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`For a claim in a later-filed application to be entitled to the filing date of
`an earlier application, the earlier application must provide written
`description support for the claimed subject matter. To satisfy the
`written description requirement, a prior application itself must describe
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`an invention, and do so in sufficient detail that one skilled in the art can
`clearly conclude that the inventor invented the claimed invention as of
`the filing date sought.
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`I.D. at 25–26 (internal citations and quotations omitted). Because Dr. Vojcic does
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`not show, or even attempt to show, “sufficient detail” within the four corners of the
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`’798 Application itself, Patent Owner does not, and cannot, meet its burden. Despite
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`the Board’s above express statement of the correct legal standard, the table that
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`Patent Owner offered in its Response to show the alleged disclosure of the ’798
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`Application is identical to the table that Patent Owner offered in its Preliminary
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`Response. Compare Resp. at 16–27 with Prelim. Resp. at 25–36.2 This table
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`expressly relies on evidence outside the ’798 Application, including at least the
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`equations discussed below.
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`Second, nothing in the supplemented record alters the fundamental flaw that
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`plagued P.O’s Preliminary Response – namely, Patent Owner relies on improper
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`imported support from the knowledge of a POSITA and then applies unfounded
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`assumptions to reach Patent Owner’s desired conclusion. Neither Patent Owner nor
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`its expert identified any teaching or disclosure within the ’798 Application that
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`2 Because Dr. Vojcic’s original declaration has no page numbers and the identical
`table is reproduced in the Response at pages 16 through 27, all citations to the table
`will use page numbers from the response.
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`would cause a POSITA to apply equations from other prior art in the particular
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`manner required by Patent Owner to show support within the ’798 Application.
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`1.
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`Patent Owner’s Response applies the wrong standard in
`arguing that the ’798 Application supports an earlier priority
`date
`In its Decision on Institution, the Board preliminarily rejected Patent Owner’s
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`argument that Talukdar is not prior art. I.D. at 27 (“[W]e do not agree that the subject
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`matter of the challenged claims is disclosed in the ’798 Provisional Application.”).
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`In so doing, the Board confirmed that Patent Owner has the burden to show that the
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`challenged claims are entitled to the earlier priority date. Id. at 25 (citing Dynamic
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`Drinkware, LLC v. Nat’l Graphics, Inc., 800 F.3d 1375, 1379–80 (Fed. Cir. 2015)
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`and Research Corp. Techs., Inc. v. Microsoft Corp., 627 F.3d 859, 870–71 (Fed. Cir.
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`2010)). Further, the Board explained that the Patent Owner’s burden is not merely
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`to show that a POSITA “would know each element” of the claimed invention, but
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`rather that the Application itself discloses the invention as a whole to a POSITA. Id.
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`at 26 (citing Ariad Pharm. Inc. v. Eli Lilly & Co., 598 F.3d 1336, 1352 (Fed. Cir.
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`2010) (en banc)).
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`Dr. Vojcic’s opinion that “a POSITA would have known all elements of the
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`[challenged claims] from the provisional,” Ex. 2001 at ¶ 53, does not meet this
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`burden. Lockwood v. Am. Airlines, Inc., 107 F.3d 1565, 1572 (Fed. Cir. 1997) (“a
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`prior application must describe an invention … in sufficient detail that one skilled
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`in the art can clearly conclude that the inventor invented the claimed invention as of
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`the filing date sought.”). Every element of the claimed invention must be present,
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`as an integrated whole, in the disclosure itself, and elements of the invention cannot
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`be imported from the knowledge of a POSITA. See, e.g., Ariad, 598 F.3d at 1351
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`(“[T]he test requires an objective inquiry into the four corners of the specification
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`from the perspective of a person of ordinary skill in the art.”).
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`Here, neither Patent Owner nor its expert even attempt to identify disclosure
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`“within the four corners of the specification.” Instead, as discussed below, Dr.
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`Vojcic relies on equations (which he expressly acknowledges are not part of the
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`specification) and assumptions.
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` Accordingly, Dr. Vojcic’s original and
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`supplemental declarations both apply the wrong standard, and should be afforded no
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`weight.
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`2.
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`The supplemental declaration from Dr. Vojcic improperly
`imports
`elements
`from
`the POSITA and makes
`unsupportable assumptions
`Under the correct standard, it is plain that the ’798 Application does not
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`provide written description support for at least the elements Patent Owner’s table
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`describes as elements 1[c] and 8[b]. Patent Owner’s table relies exclusively on the
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`disclosure of “higher speed” on slide 2 of 9 of the ’798 Application to support the
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`following elements:
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` “the second communication system configured to support higher
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`mobility than the first communication system” (table element 1[c],
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`Resp. at 19)
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` “each symbol in the second communication system has a shorter
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`symbol period than that in the first communication system” (also table
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`element 1[c], Resp. at 19–20)
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` “wherein the second communication system has pilot symbols that are
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`denser than those in the first communication system” (table element
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`8[b], Resp. at 28)
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`This fails to show “possession shown in the disclosure” as required. Ariad, 598 F.3d
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`at 1352.
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`At the threshold, Dr. Vojcic interprets the single reference to “higher speed”
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`in the ’798 Application as meaning “higher mobility.” Resp. at 20. Dr. Vojcic’s
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`declaration provides insufficient factual basis to support his interpretation that
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`“higher speed” means “higher mobility,” particularly given his deposition testimony.
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`Dr. Vojcic interprets higher speed to mean higher mobility because he states that
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`spectrum efficiency “implies higher data rate,” id. (emphasis added), but testified
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`that “increased spectrum efficiency” would mean to a POSITA “transmission of
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`more bits per unit bandwidth.” Id. at 8:13 – 22. He confirmed that increased
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`spectrum efficiency does not require higher data rate. Ex. 1038 (Vojcic Tr.) at 9:12
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`– 10:2. Dr. Vojcic also testified that a POSITA would generally interpret “faster”
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`as relating to lower latency or higher data transfer rate, neither of which relate to
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`mobility. Ex. 1038 (Vojcic Tr.) at 7:12 - 8:2; 9:12 – 10:9. Because Dr. Vojcic states
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`only that increased spectrum efficiency implies higher data rate, his assumption that
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`“higher speed” means “higher mobility” is unfounded. In fact, a reasonable
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`conclusion from the two bullet points on which Dr. Vojcic relies is that 802.16(m)
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`would support both higher bandwidth efficiency (increased spectrum efficiency)
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`and higher data rate (higher speed). Because Dr. Vojcic’s assumption that “higher
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`speed” means “higher mobility” is the only disclosure of “the second communication
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`system configured to support higher mobility” within the ’798 Application, the
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`Application fails to provide sufficient written description for this reason alone.
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`Moreover, even if a POSITA did interpret “higher speed” to mean “higher
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`mobility,” Dr. Vojcic’s analysis for the remainder of element 1[c] also requires that
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`the POSITA apply specific equations not found in the Application to calculate the
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`symbol period, using specific assumptions. As the Board already noted with respect
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`to the identical table, expert testimony without a proper factual background is
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`entitled to little weight. I.D. at 26–27 (citing 37 C.F.R. § 42.65 (a)).
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`As the Board noted in the decision on institution, Dr. Vojcic’s original
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`declaration relies upon application of the following equations for the symbol periods
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`without any factual basis:
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`I.D. at 26. The Board specifically questioned “whether there is an assumption that
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`N and NL and K and KL are the same for the second system and the legacy system.”
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`Id. at 27. Although the supplemental declaration attempts to provide a factual
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`backdrop for applying these equations in this particular manner, it instead confirms
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`that, indeed, Patent Owner’s use of these equations to show that the second symbol
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`period is shorter does rest on an unsupported assumption. The supplemental
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`declaration expressly confirms that these equations would result in a shorter symbol
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`period only if the POSITA chose values for N and NL specifically to result in a
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`shorter symbol period. Ex. 2013 at ¶ 37 (“POSITA would understand that there are
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`other possible arrangements such that TS is shorter than TSL while the number of
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`subcarriers is not necessarily the same.”) (emphasis added). Thus, even if the Patent
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`Owner could import the knowledge of these equations into the disclosure of the ’798
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`Application, any “proof” that the second system would have a shorter symbol period
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`relies on circular logic: the symbol period for the second system would be smaller
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`if, and only if, the POSITA chose values for N and NL that would result in a shorter
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`symbol period. Dr. Vojcic conceded in deposition, however, that a POSITA could
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`also choose values for N and NL that would result in the second system having a
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`longer symbol period. Ex. 1038 (Vojcic Tr.) at 28:9–14. And Dr. Vojcic could not
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`point to any disclosure in the ’798 Application other than the “higher speed”
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`statement on slide 2 (which, again, is inadequate) that would teach a POSITA to
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`choose specific values for N and NL. Ex. 1038 (Vojcic Tr.) at 30:12 – 33:3.
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`Dr. Vojcic’s entire justification for claiming that the second communication
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`system in the ’798 Application supports higher mobility, for applying specific
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`equations which do not appear anywhere in the ’798 Application, and for requiring
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`the POSITA to choose values within those equations (for N and NL) is the single
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`reference to “higher speed.” This falls far short of the required showing of
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`“possession shown in the disclosure.” Ariad, 598 F.3d at 1352. Dr. Vojcic’s attempt
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`to gap-fill through unfounded POSITA support to, in turn, manufacture alleged
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`disclosure for multiple claim elements in the table – in 1[c]: “configured to support
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`higher mobility than the first communication system;” in 1[c]: “each symbol in the
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`second communication system has a shorter symbol period than that in the first
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`communication system;” and in 8[b]: “wherein the second communication system
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`has pilot symbols that are denser than those in the first communication system” –
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`fails.
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`Because there is no disclosure within the four corners of the ’798 Application
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`of at least these three elements, Patent Owner has failed to meet its burden of
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`showing that the ’798 Application provides written description support for any of
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`the challenged claims. Accordingly, Talukdar is prior art to the ’096 Patent under
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`pre-AIA 35 U.S.C. § 102(e).
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`B.
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`The Board should reject Patent Owner’s argument that Dr. Roy’s
`declaration should be accorded no weight
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`Patent Owner argues that Dr. Roy’s declaration should be accorded no weight
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`merely because “the technical aspects of the Roy declaration are a carbon copy of
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`the report of another expert in another proceeding.” Resp. at 34. The other expert
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`referred to by Patent Owner is Dr. Akl, Intel’s expert in the prior IPR proceeding to
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`which this IPR proceeding sought joinder, and the Petition candidly acknowledged
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`that Dr. Roy’s declaration is substantively identical to Dr. Akl’s. See Pet. at 5 n. 2
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`(“Dr. Roy’s declaration is substantively identical to Dr. Robert Akl’s declaration in
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`the Intel IPR. See Ex. 1028.”); see also Paper 3 (motion for joinder with the Intel
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`IPR).
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`Patent Owner’s argument is fundamentally flawed in at least two respects.
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`First, Patent Owner neglects to acknowledge that the requirements of joinder
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`mandated that Dr. Roy’s declaration be substantively identical to Dr. Akl’s, as
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`discussed in Petitioner’s motion for joinder:
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`Qualcomm submits a copycat declaration from Dr. Sumit Roy, on
`whom Qualcomm will rely only in the event that Intel is terminated
`from the proceedings. The supporting declaration submitted by
`Qualcomm only differs from that filed by Intel (from Dr. Robert Akl)
`in that it has been updated to list the qualifications and personal
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`experience of Dr. Roy. The opinions set forth in Dr. Roy’s declaration
`are identical to the opinions set forth in the declaration of Dr. Akl filed
`in the Intel IPR, and Dr. Roy’s discussion of the prior art and his
`analysis is the same as the analysis of Intel’s expert. See Celltrion, Inc.
`v. Genentech, Inc., IPR2018-01019, Paper 11 at 14 (P.T.A.B. Oct. 30,
`2018) (granting motion for joinder of petitioner who “relie[d] on
`different experts” when the petitioner “assert[ed] that its ‘copycat
`declarations’ provide a discussion and analysis that ‘is substantially the
`same as the analysis of Pfizer’s experts’ and will not be relied upon
`unless [the original petitioner] is terminated from the proceedings.”)
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`Paper 3 at 6 n. 1. Had Dr. Roy’s declaration not been substantively identical to Dr.
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`Akl’s, it may have introduced new issues and been a basis for denying joinder. See
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`Celltrion, Inc. v. Genentech, Inc., IPR2018-01019, Paper 11 at 14. Second, Patent
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`Owner neglects that Dr. Roy reviewed his declaration in its entirety and agreed with
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`Dr. Akl’s opinions. Ex. 2015 at 111:18–112:5. Patent Owner cites no support for
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`the extraordinary proposition that an expert is not permitted to sign a declaration that
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`agrees with the opinions of another expert. Patent Owner’s argument that Dr. Roy’s
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`declaration should be accorded no weight is baseless.
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`C. Ground 1: Claim 1–4 and 6–7 are invalid as obvious over
`Talukdar in view of Li.
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`Petitioner has shown in the Petition, and in Dr. Roy’s supporting declaration,
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`that the combination of Talukdar and Li renders each of Claims 1–4 and 6–7 invalid.
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`After considering the Petition and the Patent Owner’s Preliminary Response, the
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`Board rejected Patent Owner’s arguments. I.D. at 44. Despite the Institution
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`Decision’s well-reasoned rejection of the arguments in Patent Owner’s Preliminary
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`Response, Patent Owner’s Response repeats verbatim the identical arguments
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`concerning Talukdar and Li. Compare Resp. at 34–45 with Prelim. Resp. at 37–50.
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`The Board should continue to reject Patent Owner’s Response arguments
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`concerning the combination of Talukdar and Li with respect to Claims 1–4 and 6–7
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`for the same reasons as the Institution Decision rejected the same arguments in
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`Patent Owner’s Preliminary Response. See, e.g., Google LLC v. Uniloc 2017 LLC,
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`IPR2020-00756, Paper 30 at 51 (P.T.A.B. Oct. 12, 2021) (“We agree with Google
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`that Uniloc's arguments directed to the prosecution history of the '952 patent that are
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`raised in the Patent Owner Response are the same arguments raised in the
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`Preliminary Response. Compare PO Resp. 18-19, with Prelim. Resp. 24-25. For the
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`same reasons discussed in the Institution Decision, those arguments are
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`unavailing.”); see also Palo Alto Networks, Inc. v. Selective Signals, LLC, IPR2018-
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`00594, Paper 46 at 10 (P.T.A.B. Aug. 8, 2019) (“In reply, Petitioner asserts that
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`Patent Owner’s Response repeats arguments from the Preliminary Response, and did
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`not respond to the Board’s reasons in the Institution Decision …. We agree with
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`Petitioner’s characterization of the Response because Patent Owner’s arguments are,
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`indeed, nearly identical to those of the Preliminary Response. Compare PO Resp.
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`11–16 with, Prelim. Resp. 6–11.”); Palo Alto Networks, IPR2018-00594, Paper 46
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`at 11–14 (confirming analysis from Institution Decision). Moreover, because Patent
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`Owner did not present any new argument responsive to the Institution Decision in
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`its Response, any attempt to introduce such argument in sur-reply would be belated
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`and should not be considered. See Palo Alto Networks, IPR2018-00594, Paper 46 at
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`10–11 (“Patent Owner’s arguments responsive to the Institution Decision, presented
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`for the first time in the Sur-Reply, are belated…. Accordingly, we do not consider
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`Patent Owner’s belated Sur-Reply arguments and evidence….”).
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`Accordingly, the Board should find that Claims 1–4 and 6–7 are unpatentable
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`as obvious over Talukdar in view of Li.
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`D. Ground 2: Claim 8 is obvious over Talukdar in view of Nystrom,
`and the Petition, Dr. Roy’s declaration, and Dr. Vojcic’s
`declaration provide sufficient motivation for this combination
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`As described by the Board:
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`Claim 8 is similar to claim 1, with the exception that claim 8 recites
`“wherein the second communication system has pilot symbols that are
`denser than those in the first communication system,” in place of the
`claim 1 recitation “wherein each symbol in the second communication
`system has a shorter symbol period than that in the first communication
`system.”
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`I.D. at 47.
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`The Petition references the teachings of Talukdar as discussed in Ground 1
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`for the other elements of claim 8 and relies on a combination of Talukdar and
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`Nystrom for the denser pilot symbol limitation. Pet. at 62–67. After reviewing the
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`Petition and the Patent Owner’s Preliminary Response, the Board appeared to
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`acknowledge that the combination of Talukdar and Nystrom would disclose all
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`elements of claim 8, but determined that the Petition did not provide a sufficient
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`motivation to combine the teachings of Talukdar and Nystrom. I.D. at 47. Patent
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`Owner’s Response to Ground 2 is identical to its Preliminary Response. Compare
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`Resp. at 46–53 with Prelim. Resp. at 50–58.
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`The teachings of Talukdar and Nystrom, as well as the declaration provided
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`by Patent Owner’s own expert, confirm that a POSITA would have been motivated
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`to combine Talukdar and Nystrom as set forth in the Petition. As noted in the
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`Petition, Nystrom explicitly discloses that denser pilot symbols in the time
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`dimension should be used for higher Doppler applications. Ex. 1017 at [[0042]] &
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`Fig. 5A. Nystrom is clear that higher Doppler shift scenarios require pilot symbols
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`that are denser in time, because paragraph 42 explains that users with higher Doppler
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`shift would be assigned to either region 110A or 110D of Figure 5A. Ex. 1017 at 42
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`(“In part 110A, the pilot structure is intended for a large Doppler and low delay
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`spread.... In part 110D, the pilot structure is intended for a high Doppler and high
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`delay spread”). As can be seen from the figure, and as Dr. Roy explained, each of
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`those regions has three times denser pilot symbols in the time dimension than regions
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`110B or 110C, which are intended for lower Doppler applications:
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`Ex. 1002 at 160. In his declaration, Patent Owner’s expert Dr. Vojcic annotated
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`Figure 5A of Nystrom slightly differently, but his annotations also confirm that
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`Nystrom teaches that higher mobility (‘high speed’) stations would be assigned to
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`regions 110A or 110D, both of which have denser pilot symbols in the time
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`dimension:
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`Ex. 2001 at ¶ 93. As both annotated versions of Figure 5A show, regions 110A and
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`110D -- which are the regions intended for high Doppler -- have 3 times more pilot
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`symbols per unit time than regions 110B and 110C. Indeed, in discussing the
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`teachings of Nystrom, Dr. Vojcic expressly confirmed the teaching upon which
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`Petitioners rely: “A POSITA would also understand that small/large Doppler
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`spread (or equivalently velocity) corresponds to low/high time selectivity,
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`requiring low/high pilot density over time.” Id. (emphasis added).
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`As for Dr. Vojcic’s focus on delay spread, that is irrelevant because claim 8
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`does not require pilot symbols that are denser in the frequency dimension. The fact
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`that Nystrom also teaches increasing pilot symbol density in the frequency domain
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`for distant stations (or stations with otherwise poor radio conditions) does not
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`discredit or remove its teaching of increased pilot symbol density in the time domain
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`for higher mobility stations.
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`Because Nystrom discloses the use of higher density pilot symbols for higher
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`mobility users, and Talukdar discloses both stationary and mobile stations, a
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`POSITA would have been motivated to combine the teachings of Talukdar and
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`Nystrom by utilizing higher density pilot symbols for the high-mobility 802.16(m)
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`portion of a hybrid frame, while using lower density pilot symbols for a stationary
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`802.16(e) portion. This combination would be motivated by the express teachings
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`of Talukdar and Nystrom for at least the following reasons.
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`First, Talukdar itself expressly teaches that the pilot density for the 802.16(e)
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`and 802.16(m) sections of a hybrid frame could be different. Talukdar at 29 (“In
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`general, the structures of the 802.16(m) region (sub-channel and pilot structures)
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`can be different from those of the 802.16(e) regions.”) (emphasis added). Based
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`on this teaching alone, a POSITA would have been motivated to combine Talukdar
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`and Nystrom, because Talukdar suggests that pilot structures can be different for the
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`two components of a hybrid frame, and Nystrom teaches appropriate pilot structures
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`for different scenarios. Pet. at 63–64; Roy at ¶¶ 163–64. For a higher mobility
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`802.16(m) station, which both experts agree would be subject to higher Doppler
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`effects than a low mobility station, at minimum, a POSITA would have found it
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`obvious to try the denser pilot symbols in the time dimension, which Nystrom
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`teaches for high Doppler users. Ex. 1017 at [[0042]].
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`Second, this combination also would have been obvious as a simple
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`substitution of known elements to obtain predictable results. The Board
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`preliminarily rejected this rationale because it found that Petitioner failed to show
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`the underlying factual basis for this combination. Petitioner respectfully disagrees
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`for the following reasons.
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`Although the Board is correct that “Paragraphs 29, 37, 42, and 43 of Nystrom
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`further do not disclose denser pilot symbols enhance or improve a faster moving
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`unit’s ability to perform channel estimation,” this would have been well known to a
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`POSITA, and Paragraph 3 of Nystrom expressly discloses that teaching. Ex. 1017
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`at ¶ 3 (“A shorter time interval between successive pilot data [(i.e. denser pilot
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`symbols in the time dimension)] gives a more accurate channel estimation.”). In
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`paragraphs 162–163 of his declaration, Dr. Roy provides a detailed factual basis for
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`his conclusion that “it was well-known that increasing pilot density improved
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`performance in wireless communications by enhancing the ability of mobile stations
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`to perform channel estimation,” including but not limited to a citation to paragraph
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`3 of Nystrom.
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`The Board further determined that “[p]aragraph