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`571-272-7822 December 15, 2016
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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`LAM RESEARCH CORP.,
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`DANIEL L. FLAMM,
`Patent Owner.
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`Case IPR2015-01767
`Patent 6,017,221
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`Held: October 4, 2016
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`BEFORE: CHRISTOPHER L. CRUMBLEY, JO-ANNE M.
`KOKOSKI, and KIMBERLY McGRAW, Administrative Patent
`Judges.
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`The above-entitled matter came on for hearing on Tuesday,
`October 11, 2016, commencing at 1:00 p.m., at the U.S. Patent
`and Trademark Office, 600 Dulany Street, Alexandria, Virginia.
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`APPEARANCES:
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`ON BEHALF OF THE PETITIONER:
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`MORGAN CHU, ESQUIRE
`SAMUEL K. LU, ESQUIRE
`MICHAEL R. FLEMING, ESQUIRE
`Irell & Manella, LLP
`1800 Avenue of the Stars, Suite 900
`Los Angeles, California 90067-4276
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`ON BEHALF OF PATENT OWNER:
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`GEORGE C. SUMMERFIELD, ESQUIRE
`Stadheim & Grear
`400 North Michigan Avenue
`Suite 2200
`Chicago, Illinois 60611
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`CHRISTOPHER FRERKING
`University of New Hampshire School of Law
`Two White Street
`Concord, New Hampshire 03301
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` (This partial transcript is extracted from the transcript of the
`Oral Hearing held in IPR2015-01764 and IPR2015-01768, from
`which testimony regarding IPR2016-01767 was incorporated).
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`JUDGE CRUMBLEY: Despite my earlier mistake, this
`is 1767. Mr. Fleming, would you like to reserve any time?
`MR. FLEMING: I would like to reserve 12 minutes out
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`JUDGE CRUMBLEY: You may begin when ready.
`MR. FLEMING: Good afternoon, Your Honor. I'm
`Mike Fleming. I represent the petitioner, Lam Research. And
`today we have before us eight grounds. In the first grounds, 1
`through 4, Dr. Flamm does not dispute the dependent claims.
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`1 So claim 1 is before us. And for grounds 5 through 8, next slide,
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`please, slide 3, Flamm does not make any arguments for these
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`So if we could move to slide 4, please, I'm going to talk
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`about the purported invention in the '221 and also talk about the
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`claim language. I'm also going to talk about how the prior art
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`anticipates claim 1. And then if I have time, I want to talk about
`8 what prior art renders claim 1 obvious.
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`So if we could go to slide 5, please. So the technology
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`that is before you today relates to a plasma processing using an
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`inductive discharge tube. If you look on Lieberman Figure 25A,
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`this shows the well-known process. And here, if I can hold it
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`there, right there is the discharge tube. And in that discharge tube
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`is a reacted gas. And also in that discharge tube toward the
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`bottom is a chuck, and on top of that chuck is a semiconductor
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`discharge tube. That is energized with an RF voltage, radio
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`frequency voltage. That induces an inductive current which has
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`charged the reactive gas to become an ion plasma. That ion
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`plasma is attracted to the chuck and reacts on the surface of the
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`semiconductor wafer, therefore, doing the manufacturing step.
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`If I could have slide 8, please. Here is the '221
`23 Figure 2A. This shows the tube, the discharge tube 52. It also
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`shows the coil that's wrapped around the tube. It also shows that
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`the generator 61 charges up that coil with that voltage. And what
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`it also shows is that that produces a standing wave in the coil. It's
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`not a traveling wave. It's a standing wave. And so what is
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`important about a standing wave is the center point right there,
`4 which is the AC voltage, that is fixed by position because it's a
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`standing wave.
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`The other aspect that's important is you see that C and
`7 A, those two there -- it's hard to control this thing.
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`JUDGE CRUMBLEY: You know, we used to have an
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`actual screen up there and you could see the laser much better.
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`MR. FLEMING: In any event, C and A are the
`11 maximum voltages. They are fixed too by a position. So that
`12 means that that's what the maximum voltage that's going to be
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`seen by the discharge tube. That's important.
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`So if I could have slide 6, please. So the problem is
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`these leakage currents. They are due to capacitive currents. And
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`the problem is that these leakage currents cause problems. They
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`cause a nonuniformity of the ion flux, and as a result, it's hard to
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`control the flux so that it goes to where we want it to go on the
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`So if we could go to slide 7, please. So the way '221
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`solves this problem is by selectively balancing the phased portion
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`and the anti-phased portion of the capacitive currents with the
`23 wave adjustment circuit. So if we go to slide 9, please, so here is
`24 what's going on. By placing the standing waves virtual ground in
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`the center of the coil, you are able to balance the phase and
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`anti-phase portions of the capacitive currents. The way that
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`occurs is you see that in the disclosure it discloses that phase 70
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`and anti-phase 71 voltage distribution in the direction about 00-A
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`So let's look at that. The red represents the sum under
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`the curve, and that represents the voltage vector of the phase
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`portion. And then the anti-phase portion is the blue, which is the
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`sum under the curve, which is now the vector sum of the
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`anti-portion phase. So phase is really referring to polarity in this
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`case because it's the standing wave. So if you see when those two
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`areas are equal, they are going to cancel out. And that also
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`balances the capacitive currents.
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`So just for information, where are these capacitive
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`currents coming from? It's interesting because on a point on that
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`coil, the capacitive currents is actually going through the wall of
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`the discharge tube perpendicularly and going in through the ion
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`flux and then hitting the shield. So you can see why they call it
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`leakage current, because it's going on another path than what the
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`intended current would want to go to. So if we could go to
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`slide 10, please, and this is exactly what they say. We have the
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`vector sum of the phase and anti-phase capacitive coupled
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`voltages equal.
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`So let's look at claim 1. Can we have slide 14, please.
`24 Elements of claim 1, 1A, 1B, 1C, are not in dispute. Can we have
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`slide 15, please. What is in play is elements 1D through 1F. And
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`1 what these limitations are directed to is the phase portion and the
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`anti-phase portion of the capacitive currents selectively balanced.
`3 And you do that by a wave adjustment.
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`So let's go into detail. I want to talk about these two
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`limitations. One is what is meant by selectively balanced and
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`also what is the scope of wave adjustment circuit and show how
`7 Lieberman reads on these limitations. So if we could go to slide
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`22, please, Lieberman teaches all of these elements. And more
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`importantly, Lieberman teaches the same solution to the same
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`Can I go to slide 27. So let's address selectively
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`balanced. Let's break it down a little bit. What is balanced?
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`the standing wave in the middle of the coil. Can we go to
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`slide 28. That's exactly the same thing the '221 is talking about.
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`obtain the vector sum of the voltage is equal so that when you
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`sum those two, the anti-phase and the phase, they are going to
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`cancel out because of reverse polarity. And also as a result, you
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`are going to balance the capacitive currents.
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`JUDGE KOKOSKI: Excuse me. I have a question.
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`Just stepping back a little bit, with respect to the claim term
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`selectively balanced, I know in your petition you offered a claim
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`construction for that term. So I guess my question is kind of
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`expired, and I know you use BRI in your petition. So if the
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`standard is different than BRI, does your proposed construction
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`MR. FLEMING: Your Honor, we don't believe that the
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`difference between the BRI and the Phillips standard makes any
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`difference at all. You arrive at the same point.
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`Secondly, our construction is consistent with the plain
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`no need for special construction. And I will show you that, in
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`fact, you are correct that the plain and ordinary meaning is correct
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`So if I could go to -- I would like to finish this, if that's
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`okay, and then I'll get to the question of selective because that's
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`probably more important and more direct to your question.
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`But for the idea of balance, we have Dr. Cecchi, if we
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`can go to slide 36, opines that, in fact, what is going on here is
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`that you are having a balance of the vector sums of the anti-phase
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`and the phase of the capacitive currents, and they end up equaling
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`zero when you place the virtual ground in the middle of the coil.
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`and that results in reading on the claim language of balancing.
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`So let's go to your question about selectively that I think
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`is more interesting, but you'll see that it's the same as far as the
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`1 Court's interpretation, you still would arrive at the same point. So
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`let's go to slide 27, please. Selectively balance, the word
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`"selectively" in the context of this patent has to mean the ordinary
`4 meaning of select, which is to choose purposely for a reason.
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`balanced transformer in the circuit and for the purpose of causing
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`the standing wave to move to the center of the coil so that that
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`virtual ground is at the center.
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`If I could have slide 11, please, this is consistent with
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`the spec because here is a preferred embodiment doing the very
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`thing that Lieberman is suggesting, placing a balun transformer
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`401 in the circuit. And a well-known tenement [sic] of patent law
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`and it's best explained by the Federal Circuit in Globetrotter
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`Software Inc., v. Elan Computer Group, Inc., 362 F.3d. 1367 and
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`pinpoint cite 1381. There the Federal Circuit articulates this
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`principle in saying that a claim interpretation that excludes a
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`preferred embodiment from the scope of claim is rarely, if ever,
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`Here we have a preferred embodiment. Here we have
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`401 being placed into the circuit for the purpose of placing the
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`virtual ground of the standing wave in the middle of the coil
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`shown there as 406.
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`Can I have slide 36, please. We have evidence in the
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`record with Dr. Cecchi opining that, in fact, that's what occurs.
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`you are purposely choosing to do so to cause the balancing. So it
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`JUDGE CRUMBLEY: Mr. Fleming, so is it your
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`position that selectively balance requires the phase portion and
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`the anti-phase portion to cancel each other out entirely?
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`MR. FLEMING: Our position is on the term
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`"selectively" is that it's a purpose selection of the particular
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`circuit that you are choosing to cause the balancing.
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`JUDGE CRUMBLEY: So it's not, you are not selecting
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`the degree of balancing, which I believe is what the patent
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`owner's position is, that you would select how much of a balance
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`you want. So you can adjust how much of a cancelling there is
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`between the phase and the anti-phase.
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`MR. FLEMING: Even if we accept that position,
`15 Figure 4, which is a preferred embodiment, is selecting the very
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`same circuit that Lieberman is talking about, putting a push-pull
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`transformer into the circuit to cause 100 percent balancing. So
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`even if they want to say that selecting means some sort of range,
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`the preferred embodiment shows that the range includes 100
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`JUDGE CRUMBLEY: Do we have evidence that the
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`transformer in Lieberman is capable of being adjusted to
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`MR. FLEMING: No, Your Honor, we do not. And
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`of a range, and during deposition clearly Dr. Flamm said that this
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`range was huge, from 10 percent to 100 percent. But even if we
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`accept that it is a range, the Lieberman disclosure definitely
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`shows that 100 percent or approximately 100 percent, nothing is
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`perfect in this world. So I believe for you to rule on this is all a
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`JUDGE CRUMBLEY: Thank you.
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`MR. FLEMING: Again, I want to really emphasize and
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`I think I'm clear, but my colleagues want me to say it again, '221
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`JUDGE CRUMBLEY: So just to complete that point,
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`so your position would be that if we were to require some degree
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`MR. FLEMING: That would read out?
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`JUDGE CRUMBLEY: Well, it would not cover, if it
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`of balancing, then Figure 4 would be an embodiment that's not
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`MR. FLEMING: That's correct. You have it, Your
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`adjustment circuit. Can I go to slide 37, please. Lieberman
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`transformer. And let's explore the scope of the claimed wave
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`adjustment circuit term. Notice its function. It's not claiming a
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`More importantly, they say one of the embodiments is a
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`push-pull arrangement. So if we go to slide 53, both Lam and
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`slide 44, Dr. Cecchi opines that, in fact, that Lieberman and
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`balanced transformer operates in a push-pull arrangement just as
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`the '221. So Lieberman teaches this limitation.
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`If we could go to slide 52, please, I want to be sure I
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`JUDGE CRUMBLEY: I understand. You are in your
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`MR. FLEMING: I think at this point, Your Honor, it's
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`JUDGE CRUMBLEY: All right.
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`MR. SUMMERFIELD: May it please the Board, again,
`6 George Summerfield on behalf of the patent owner. So when
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`equated element 1D of the '221 patent, which is in which a phased
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`balanced with Lieberman's teachings that a balanced transformer
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`can be used, which reduces the maximum coil to plasma voltage
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`by a factor of 2. That's at paper number 1 at 28. That is the horse
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`Now, if we look at slide 28 from Lam's presentation, we
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`see a depiction of what Lam was arguing. Here we have
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`ground at the middle of the inductive coil. If we turn to slide 30,
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`ground in the middle of the coil. Dr. Cecchi concludes that this
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`Now, this slide clearly is addressing claim number 7,
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`regard to all claims. This understanding wouldn't change if we
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`believes that, again, we have a virtual ground midpoint and the
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`and below the midpoint, as we looked at in Lam's slides 28 and
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`Now, if we can take look at Lam's slide 11, this shows
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`this figure. The Board, in instituting, noted that the '221 patent's
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`circuit comprising a balun toroidal transformer where the
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`balanced coupling which Lieberman also teaches.
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`In other words, the Board accepted Lam's
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`characterization of Lieberman wherein using a conventional
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`balanced transformer one can create a virtual ground and it coils
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`JUDGE CRUMBLEY: Can we take a step back. I'm
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`sorry to disrupt your presentation, but I want to lay the
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`groundwork a little bit before we do that. My colleague asked
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`thing. What claim construction standard we should be applying
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`MR. SUMMERFIELD: It's the Phillips standard. The
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`patent has expired. This Board's case law and the Federal
`11 Circuit's case law is very clear: Because we don't have the ability
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`to amend the claims anymore, it has to be the Phillips standard.
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`So here when we talk about the plain and ordinary
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`the context of the specification. So it's the plain and ordinary
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`JUDGE CRUMBLEY: Okay. Now, you were talking
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`about the -- I'm sorry. You were pointing to the virtual ground in
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`the center of the circuit. Is that what is required when you saying
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`something is selectively balanced? What does selectively
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`balanced mean in the context of claim 1?
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`MR. SUMMERFIELD: It literally means a balance
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`that's selected. And I will get into the different iterations that the
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`capacitance is a benefit, where 100 percent capacitance may be a
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`10 percent balance would be within the range.
`JUDGE CRUMBLEY: Now, in those situations where
`you have varying amounts, that's varying the amount that the
`phase and anti-phase cancel each other out? I don't know if I'm
`using the right terminology, but you are varying the amount of
`cancelling that's happening between the --
`MR. SUMMERFIELD: How much is cancelled, that's
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`JUDGE CRUMBLEY: Does the virtual ground move
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`MR. SUMMERFIELD: It's a little more complicated
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`doesn't really have a clear meaning. He certainly doesn't explain
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`as, for example, in this particular iteration -- sorry, I can't see all
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`the way, I think it's 406, 405, it's the point where the wave form
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`JUDGE CRUMBLEY: While you are looking for that,
`I'll ask you a question so you can walk and chew gum at the same
`time. So it is your understanding of the claim that even when that
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`MR. SUMMERFIELD: That's right. And Your Honor,
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`I think the best way to do this is to look at a series of slides that
`6 Lam has. If we start with slide 22 -- I'm sorry, 32, here we have
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`anti-phase portions cancel out because that ground is at the
`9 midpoint of the curve or again, the Y axis in element 60.
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`11 moved giving 100 percent or maximum value sum, as they have
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`13 move the ground up in an equal distance and you would have a
`14 maximum value for the anti-phase portion.
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`JUDGE CRUMBLEY: Is that a figure from the patent?
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`MR. SUMMERFIELD: I don't believe it is.
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`JUDGE CRUMBLEY: I just wanted to make sure we
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`MR. SUMMERFIELD: We agree this is accurate. This
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`21 And then finally, if we go to the slide 34, we see the iteration that
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`23 would be within the range of the claimed invention. And this
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`2 moving up the Y axis from its previous location.
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`JUDGE CRUMBLEY: Again, I know I'm taking you
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`capability of moving is not in the embodiment that's depicted in
`7 Figure 4 of the patent?
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`MR. SUMMERFIELD: Well, it depends on what we
`9 mean. Mr. Fleming used the term "on the fly." I mean, in
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`essence, that means that using the circuit that you begin with, you
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`are incapable of moving that ground. And that's true. But there's
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`nothing that prevents you from moving the push-pull assembly in
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`no reason why selective modification or selective balancing has
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`be the ability to do it. And we'll get into that when we talk about
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`JUDGE CRUMBLEY: It doesn't have to be done using
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`MR. SUMMERFIELD: We would argue that is the
`22 wave adjustment circuit.
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`JUDGE CRUMBLEY: Even if it's hardwired into the
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`MR. SUMMERFIELD: That's right. There's nothing
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`construe the claims to encompass the embodiments, but you also
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`adjustment, for example, as I will talk about in a few minutes,
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`can't simply be designing a circuit and then having that circuit
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`adjustment, and it's certainly not -- it's arguably selective. But
`9 when you put the two terms together, selective adjustment, one
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`based upon its design forever. And that's what they are arguing
`12 Lieberman teaches, that there is a circuit that is designed in a
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`suggested in Lieberman. The only way you get to that suggestion
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`hindsight reconstruction, which is improper.
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`19 morphed from saying Lieberman on its face teaches all of the
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`patent because of the problems attendant with a conventional
`7 magnetic transformer. So if this is actually correct, if Mr. Flamm
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`implementing Lieberman using a balanced magnetic transformer
`10 would not result in the voltage wave form described by Dr.
`11 Cecchi or the ability to selectively balance the phases of the wave
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`form, the point keeps moving without any selection whatsoever.
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`It is completely uncontrolled by the user or the circuit or
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`anything. That's what Mr. Flamm opined and that's what we
`15 maintain in our response.
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`transformer of Lieberman for a balun as taught in the
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`specification of the '221 patent to achieve the phase and
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`anti-phase balancing required in claim 1. This is at paper number
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`25 at 12 to 18. We obviously didn't have a chance to respond to
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`23 They never said that anything had to be done to Lieberman to get
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`disclose the internal structure of the balun transformer but that
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`one skilled in the art had myriad references he could go to if he
`5 wanted to know how to build one because baluns were known in
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`simply implementing Lieberman with a conventional balanced
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`argument from the one Lam urged at the very beginning, which is
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`all you have to do is implement Lieberman as is, conventional
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`balanced transformer and all.
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`one structure for another, Lam cites to the inventor's testimony
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`frequency of up to 1.5 gigahertz. Mr. Flamm testified that a
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`19 wouldn't work at a high-powered application such as plasma
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`3 wouldn't result in a sustainable ground potential at a coil's
`4 midpoint which effectively guts the notion that if implemented as
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`We then have Lam's new take on this, which is that a
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`balanced transformer for a balun, as taught in the '221 patent.
`10 However, as we know from Mr. Flamm's testimony that they cite,
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`any old balun won't do. It has to be one that specifically has a
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`core made out of ferrite material. So now we have gone to just do
`13 Lieberman and you get the claimed invention under 102B, to do
`14 Lieberman but replace it with a balun and then make sure the
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`That in no way resembles what they argued originally.
`17 But it's what they have to argue now because it is effectively
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`22 Lam's argument that there would be this technology swap, if you
`23 will, is why one reading Lieberman would even think to do that.
`24 And there is nobody on Lam's side that opines as to why this
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`the balanced transformer for a balun. It just isn't there.
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`5 Lieberman itself is anticipatory, you have to modify Lieberman in
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`claimed invention. And the only way you do that is by having
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`JUDGE KOKOSKI: So your argument bas