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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`WAVEMARKET INC., d/b/a LOCATION LABS,
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` Petitioner,
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`LOCATIONET SYSTEMS, LTD.,
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` Patent Owner.
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` December 24, 2014
` 1:01 p.m.
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` BEFORE GLENN J. PERRY, KRISTEN L. DROESCH,
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`and SHERIDAN K. SNEDDEN, Administrative Patent
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`Judges, held via telephone on the above-mentioned
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` DENTONS US, LLP
` Attorneys for Petitioner
` BY: SCOTT W. CUMMINGS, ESQ.
` scott.cummings@dentons.com
` MARK L. HOGGE, ESQ.
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` PEPPER HAMILTON, LLP
` Attorneys for Patent Owner
` BY: ANDY CHAN, ESQ.
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` THOMAS ENGELLENNER, ESQ.
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` REZA MOLLAAGHABABA
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` MR. CHAN: Good afternoon your Honors. I
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` am Andy Chan representing Patent Owner,
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` Locationet Systems.
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` Patent Owners requested this conference
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` seeking authorization to file a motion for
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` in privity with Petitioner for the purpose
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` of preparing the Patent Owner's response,
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` which is due on February 23rd, 2015.
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` Patent Owner submits that evidence
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` further establishing privity between
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` Petitioner and each of Sprint, AT&T and
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` T-Mobile is in Petitioner's possession, and
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` without such evidence Patent Owner will be
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` severely prejudiced because Patent Owner
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` other means.
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` To address some of the prior comments in
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` this proceeding and in prior proceedings,
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` our November motion for additional
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` discovery, prior to the institution of the
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` decision, was denied because the Board
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` discovery would not be available prior to
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` Two, the Board was going to consider the
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` the third point first, since it appears that
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` there is some confusion.
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` Judge Andrews in the District Court of
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` Delaware has ruled that discovery regarding
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` the issue of privity between Petitioner and
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` each Sprint, AT&T and T-Mobile should be
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` sought in the IPR proceeding and not in the
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` District Court.
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` That definitive ruling required us to
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` obtain this discovery in this IPR
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` proceeding. And Patent Owner had obtained
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` certain documents in the District Court
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` reasons, but it seems that in this
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` the protective order in the underlying
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` The Patent Owner has requested that
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` Petitioner produce those documents in this
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` proceeding voluntarily, but it has opposed
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` that request.
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` Petitioner has told the Board that no
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` discovery is needed because the Patent Owner
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` a half truth because Petitioner knows full
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` well that the documents cannot be presented
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` discovery for the purposes of this
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` So regarding the first and second reasons
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` that the Board denied our previous requests
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` for additional discovery, we clearly now
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` have changed circumstances.
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` The decision is to try, as issued, and
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` the patent owner's discovery period for the
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` patent owner's response has now diminished.
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` And since the decision notes some
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` deficiencies in our evidence to show
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` those points.
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` JUDGE PERRY: Thank you, Mr. Chan. Let
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` MR. CUMMINGS: Sure. This is Scott
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` Cummings. First of all, the notion that the
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` patent owner has requested that discovery in
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` a timely manner is, I think, pretty
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` We have the first case, first trial for
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` this patent. The same pattern was repeated
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` -- has been repeated for this trial as
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` repeated in the first trial, namely, the
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` Patent Owner going ahead with its
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` preliminary response, making certain
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` interest of privity, losing those arguments,
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` and then coming back to the Board after it's
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` lost its arguments, requesting evidence to
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` prevail on its arguments, when, in fact, the
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` Patent Owner should have sought discovery in
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` the very first IPR well in advance of the
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` It didn't do that in the first IPR and
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` now here we are again in a second IPR under
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` and I think that's clear from the trial
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` practice guide. And I think it's also clear
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` So on the Board's decision, that's Paper
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` Number 34 and IPR 199, the first IPR. Paper
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` Number 34, Case Number 8, the Board
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` quite clearly cuts against granting this
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` belated -- once again, belated request for
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` discovery.
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` With respect to the merits of their
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` District Court litigation and the standard
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` for discovery in these proceedings, as we
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` These proceedings were not designed for
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` liberal discovery and not designed for
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` repetitive discovery, disputes of the type
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` that we find ourselves addressing today, on
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` Christmas Eve.
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` So the standard here is that the Patent
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` Owner has the burden to demonstrate, beyond
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` speculation, that something that it's
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` requesting has utility to them, will be
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` useful to them. They haven't done that.
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` They haven't done that from the get-go, and
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` they haven't done that today.
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` Nothing that I've heard them ever say
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` If there's something I'm missing, I'm
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` JUDGE PERRY: Well, if I understood
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` MR. CUMMINGS: I do disagree with that.
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` The documents -- I don't know what documents
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` MR. CHEN: If I may. There are four
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` categories of documents that we are seeking,
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` They've acknowledged the existence of
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` Second, they've exercised, to the extent
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` Third, the communications between the
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` T-Mobil regarding the tender of the
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` indemnification. Petitioner's acceptance of
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` the indemnification obligation and
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` Petitioner's acceptance of the controls of
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` indemnification obligation on behalf of each
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` the control of the defense of the litigation
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` JUDGE PERRY: Mr. Chan, have you seen the
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` MR. CHAN: I have not.
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` JUDGE PERRY: Has Mr. Engellenner seen
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` MR. ENGELLENNER: No, your Honor.
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` JUDGE PERRY: So how is it that you all
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` MR. CHAN: They have represented in open
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` JUDGE PERRY: Indemnification doesn't
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` MR. CHAN: Right. It's evidence that
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` JUDGE PERRY: Okay. Let me ask a
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` MR. CUMMINGS: Correct. So, I don't know
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` JUDGE PERRY: I understand that. But I
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` MR. CUMMINGS: Correct.
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` JUDGE PERRY: -- that the appropriate
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` MR. CUMMINGS: Correct. And I think
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` JUDGE PERRY: But the judge disagrees
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` MR. CUMMINGS: Yeah, I'm not sure what
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` JUDGE PERRY: Okay.
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` MR. CHAN: Your Honor, I have the
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` MR. CHAN: This is in response to a
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` JUDGE PERRY: Okay, I understand.
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` Petitioner, anything further from you?
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` MR. CUMMINGS: No, Judge Perry, I don't
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` JUDGE PERRY: Judge Droesch, do you have
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` Thank you all, this call is adjourned.
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`underlying
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`12:17
`understand
`14:5 16:2
`understanding
`13:5
`understood
`9:13
`UNITED
`1:1
`upcoming
`6:2
`use
`15:14
`useful
`8:23 9:3
`utility
`8:22
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`V
`voluntarily
`5:4
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`W
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`W 2
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`7:6
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`1:5
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`10:11
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`T
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`7:1,1
`tailored
`10:1
`taken
`17:12
`target
`3:25
`telephone
`1:16
`tender
`10:21
`Thank
`6:5 16:13
`think
`6:10 7:13,14 8:5 14:13
`15:6
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`4:5 11:7
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`6:10
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`14:25 17:11
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`1:3 6:12,14,15 7:13
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`Two
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`617-542-0039
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`Merrill Corporation - Boston
`www.merrillcorp.com/law
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