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`IN THE UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`CBM2014-00025 & CBM2014-00026
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`EBAY ENTERPRISES, INC., and
`EBAY, INC.,
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`Petitioner,
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`VS.
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`LAWRENCE B. LOCKWOOD,
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`Patent Owner
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`MONDAY, JULY 21, 2014
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`Teleconference held on the above date,
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`BEFORE:
`MICHAEL N. KIM
`SALLY C. MEDLEY
`BENJAMIN D. WOOD
`Administrative Patent Judges
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`APPEARANCES:
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`& (cid:9) Fox, (cid:9) PLLC
`STERNE, (cid:9) KESSLER, (cid:9) GOLDSTEIN (cid:9)
`BY: (cid:9)
`ROBERT (cid:9) GREENE (cid:9) Sterne, (cid:9) ESQUIRE
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`BYRON PICKARD, (cid:9) ESQUIRE
`1100 (cid:9) New (cid:9) York Avenue, (cid:9) N.W.
`20005-3934
`Washington, (cid:9) D.C. (cid:9)
`(202) (cid:9) 371-2600
`rsterne@skgf.com
`bpickard@skgf.com
`Representing (cid:9) the (cid:9) Petitioners
`& (cid:9) SUTCLIFFE, (cid:9) LLP
`ORRICK, (cid:9) HERRINGTON (cid:9)
`DONALD (cid:9) DAYBELL, (cid:9) ESQUIRE
`BY: (cid:9)
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`JAMES MAUNE, (cid:9) ESQUIRE
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`(Whereupon, (cid:9) the (cid:9) proceedings
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`JUDGE (cid:9) KIM: (cid:9)
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`Good morning. (cid:9)
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`MR. (cid:9) STERNE: (cid:9)
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`Good morning, (cid:9) Judge
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`Kim. (cid:9)
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`This (cid:9) is Rob (cid:9) Sterne (cid:9) here, (cid:9) lead (cid:9) counsel,
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`MR. (cid:9) PICKARD: (cid:9)
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`I (cid:9) apologize, (cid:9) Your
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`That was (cid:9) -- (cid:9) you (cid:9) asked (cid:9) for (cid:9) counsel (cid:9) for
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`I (cid:9) believe (cid:9) that (cid:9) was (cid:9) Mr. (cid:9) Sterne,
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`JUDGE (cid:9) KIM: (cid:9)
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`Right. (cid:9)
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`Okay.
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`MR. (cid:9) DAYBELL: (cid:9)
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`This (cid:9) is (cid:9) Don (cid:9) Daybell,
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`With me (cid:9) is (cid:9) Jim Maune
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`I (cid:9) also (cid:9) have my partner, (cid:9) Tom Gray, (cid:9) on (cid:9) the
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`JUDGE (cid:9) KIM: (cid:9)
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`All (cid:9) right. (cid:9)
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`Thank (cid:9) you.
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`Okay, (cid:9) Patent Owner, (cid:9) you (cid:9) requested (cid:9) the (cid:9) call, (cid:9)
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`MR. (cid:9) STERNE: (cid:9)
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`Okay. (cid:9)
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`I (cid:9) apologize,
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`Your (cid:9) Honor, for (cid:9) going (cid:9) out (cid:9) of (cid:9) order. (cid:9)
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`We (cid:9) do
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`JUDGE KIM: (cid:9)
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`MR. STERNE: Let me begin and then
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`JUDGE KIM: (cid:9)
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`MR. PICKARD: (cid:9)
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`JUDGE KIM: And then regarding the
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`striking (cid:9) it would (cid:9) prejudice (cid:9) us, (cid:9) we (cid:9) think.
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`JUDGE (cid:9) KIM: (cid:9)
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`JUDGE (cid:9) KIM: (cid:9)
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`MR. (cid:9) PICKARD: (cid:9)
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`removing Dr. Newton’s declaration, and the
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`I mean, we are
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`Well, this is
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`I have got all -- I’m
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`issue entirely on the record, and we don’t
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`It’s totally
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`Judge, this is Byron
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`CBM2014-00026
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`VERITEXT NATIONAL COURT REPORTING COMPANY
`302-571-0510 202-803-8830
`215-241-1000 610-434-8588
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`Lockwood Exhibit 2026
`eBay Enterprise, Inc. and eBay, Inc. v. Lockwood
`CBM2014-00026
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