`
`RYAN R. SMITH (SBN 229323)
`rsmith@wsgr.com
`CHRISTOPHER D. MAYS (SBN 266510)
`cmays@wsgr.com
`WILSON SONSINI GOODRICH &
`ROSATI
`Professional Corporation
`650 Page Mill Road
`Palo Alto, CA 94304-1050
`Telephone: (650) 493-9300
`Facsimile: (650) 493-6811
`
`EDWARD G. POPLAWSKI (SBN 113590)
`epoplawski@wsgr.com
`OLIVIA M. KIM (SBN 228382)
`okim@wsgr.com
`TALIN GORDNIA (SBN 274213)
`tgordnia@wsgr.com
`STEPHANIE C. CHENG (SBN 319856)
`stephanie.cheng@wsgr.com
`WILSON SONSINI GOODRICH &
`ROSATI
`Professional Corporation
`633 West Fifth Street, Suite 1550
`Los Angeles, CA 90071
`Telephone: (323) 210-2901
`Facsimile: (866) 974-7329
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`Attorneys for Defendant
`QUALYS INC.
`
`IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
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`FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
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`OAKLAND DIVISION
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`CASE NO.: 4:18-cv-07229-YGR
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`QUALYS’S RESPONSIVE SEPARATE
`STATEMENT OF UNDISPUTED
`MATERIAL FACTS
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`FINJAN LLC,
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`Plaintiff,
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`v.
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`QUALYS INC.,
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`Defendant.
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`Issue 1
`(Qualys
`cannot
`establish
`DSAVT is
`admissible
`as prior
`art)
`
`Issue 1
`
`Pursuant to Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers’ Standing Order in Civil Case Rule 9(c),
`Qualys Inc. (“Qualys”) hereby submits the following Responsive Separate Statement:
`Issue No.
`Finjan’s Undisputed Material
`Opposing Party’s Response and
`Facts and Supporting Evidence
`Supporting Evidence
`Fact 1. Qualys offered no evidence
`Disputed.
`Hall-Ellis
`personally
`from
`anyone with
`personal
`reviewed a physical copy of DSAVT in
`knowledge that DSAVT is authentic
`her analysis for the Juniper matter. That
`or was publicly accessible before
`physical copy of DSAVT is materially
`November 6, 1997.
`identical
`to
`the DSAVT reference
`produced in this matter. Hall-Ellis's
`Exh. 1 (Hall-Ellis Dep. Tr.) at
`review of the scanned copy of DSAVT’s
`40:11-18, and 41:12-22, 44:21-45,
`printed copyright date also constitutes
`50:5-9, 51:15-19
`personal knowledge. Hall-Ellis also has
`personal knowledge of the publication
`dates from her review of the MARC
`record she personally retrieved.
`Hall-Ellis Decl. at ¶¶ 6-18.
`Mays Decl. at ¶ 2.
`Ex. 34 (Hall-Ellis Expert Report) at ¶
`56-61.
`Disputed. Dr. Hall-Ellis’s opinion
`regarding the public accessibility of
`DSAVT was based on a library catalog
`record for a different “manifestation” of
`the same book, which she explains
`means a different printing of the same
`book, not a different book.
`Hall-Ellis Decl. at ¶¶ 6-18.
`Ex. 34 (Hall-Ellis Expert Report) at ¶¶
`56-61.
`Ex. 38 (Hall-Ellis Dep. Tr.) at 43:20-
`44:20; 46:15-47:12; 48:16-50:4; 51:15-
`22.
`D.I. 192-4 at 27 (Hall-Ellis Expert
`Report, Attachment 2a, MARC record
`for DSAVT).
`D.I. 192-3 at QUALYS00002805-807,
`QUALYS00003045 (DSAVT).
`Disputed.
`Hall-Ellis
`personally
`reviewed a physical copy of DSAVT in
`her analysis for the Juniper matter,
`which was provided to her by Juniper’s
`counsel. In this case, Qualys obtained
`the digital copy of DSAVT at issue in
`this motion from Juniper’s counsel. The
`physical copy of DSAVT is materially
`identical
`to
`the DSAVT reference
`produced
`in
`this matter, which
`is
`different printing of
`the DSAVT
`reference described
`in
`the MARC
`record.
`QUALYS’S RESPONSIVE SEPARATE STATEMENT OF
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`Fact 2. Dr. Hall-Ellis’ opinion
`regarding the public accessibility of
`DSAVT was based on a library
`catalog
`record
`for a different
`reference.
`Exh. 1 (Hall-Ellis Dep. Tr.) at 36:3-
`16, 40:11-18, 43:13-15, 41:21-22,
`44:21-45, 47:13-48:5, 48:9-51:19
`Exh. 3 (Hall-Ellis Ex. Rep.) at ¶¶ 59-
`60 and Attachment 2a [MARC
`Record for a different Reference]
`Exh. 2
`(QUALYS00002807/DSAVT
`Reference Relied on by Qualys) at
`2807
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`Issue 1
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`Fact 3. Dr. Hall-Ellis’ had not seen
`or inspected the contents of the
`DSAVT reference that corresponds
`to the library catalog she relies on to
`support her opinion regarding the
`DSAVT.
`Exh. 1 (Hall-Ellis Dep. Tr.) at
`40:20-41:7, 50:5-9
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`Hall-Ellis Decl. at ¶¶ 6-18.
`Mays Decl. at ¶ 2.
`Ex. 34 (Hall-Ellis Expert Report) at ¶
`56-61.
`Ex. 38 (Hall-Ellis Dep. Tr.) at 43:20-
`44:20; 46:15-47:12; 48:16-50:4; 51:15-
`22.
`D.I. 192-4 at 27. (Hall-Ellis Expert
`Report, Attachment 2a, MARC record
`for DSAVT).
`D.I. 192-3 at QUALYS00002805-807,
`QUALYS00003045 (DSAVT).
`Disputed.
`Hall-Ellis
`personally
`retrieved Mounji from CiteSeerx and
`reviewed
`its contents, which she
`concluded was complete and unaltered.
`Hall-Ellis also personally reviewed the
`publication date listed on the face of
`Mounji and the date listed in CiteSeerx
`to conclude that Mounji was publicly
`available before November 6, 1997.
`Hall-Ellis Decl. at ¶¶ 19, 24.
`Ex. 34 (Hall-Ellis Expert Report) at ¶¶
`102-106.
`Ex. 38 (Hall-Ellis Dep. Tr.) at 54:25-
`57:1; 58:24-59:7.
`Undisputed.
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`Undisputed.
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`(Qualys
`cannot
`establish
`Mounji is
`admissible
`as prior
`art)
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`Fact 4. Qualys offered no evidence
`from
`anyone with
`personal
`knowledge that Mounji is authentic
`or was publicly accessible before
`November 6, 1997.
`Exh. 1 (Hall-Ellis Dep. Tr.) at 24:5-
`13, 55:8-18, 56:4-57:1, 57:10-12,
`60:16-24, 61:1-18, 72:14-23
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`Issue 2
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`Issue 2
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`Fact 5. Qualys offered no evidence
`that
`the Mounji reference was
`publicly accessible on the CiteSeerX
`website before November 6, 1997.
`Exh. 3 (Hall-Ellis Exp. Rep.) at ¶¶
`104-05
`Exh. 1 (Hall-Ellis Dep. Tr.) at 75:1-
`15
`(Hall-Ellis Dep. Ex.
`Exh. 5
`8/CiteSeer Wikipedia page)
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`Fact 6. Qualys offered no evidence
`that
`the Mounji reference was
`publicly
`accessible
`on
`the
`ResearchGate website
`before
`November 6, 1997.
`Exh. 3 (Hall-Ellis Exp. Rep.) at ¶¶
`104-05
`Exh. 1 (Hall-Ellis Dep. Tr.) at
`76:16-18
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`personally
`Hall-Ellis
`Disputed.
`retrieved Thompson from Semantic
`Scholar. Hall-Ellis also personally
`reviewed
`the
`landing
`page
`of
`ResearchGate for Thomson to conclude
`that Thomson was publicly available
`before November 6, 1997.
`Hall-Ellis Decl. at ¶¶ 19, 23.
`Ex. 34 (Hall-Ellis Expert Report) at ¶¶
`115-119.
`Ex. 38 (Hall-Ellis Dep. Tr.) at 63:18-
`20; 64:16-65:19; 73:4-9.
`Undisputed.
`
`Exh. 6 (Hall-Ellis Dep. Ex. 9/
`ResearchGate Informational Page)
`
`Issue 3
`(Qualys
`cannot
`establish
`Thomson
`is
`admissible
`as prior
`art)
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`Fact 7. Qualys offered no evidence
`from
`anyone with
`personal
`knowledge
`that Thomson
`is
`authentic or was publicly accessible
`before November 6, 1997.
`Exh. 1 (Hall-Ellis Dep. Tr.) at 24:5-
`13, 63:24-25, 64:25-65:12, 65:20-
`23, 67:6-9, 73:10-19
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`Fact 8. Qualys offered no evidence
`that the Thomson reference was
`publicly
`accessible
`on
`the
`ResearchGate website
`before
`November 6, 1997.
`Exh. 3 (Hall-Ellis Exp. Rep.) at ¶¶
`116-17
`Exh. 1 (Hall-Ellis Dep. Tr.) at
`76:16-18
`Exh. 6 (Hall-Ellis Dep. Ex. 9/
`(ResearchGate Informational Page)
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`Undisputed.
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`Fact 9. Qualys offered no evidence
`that the Thomson reference was
`publicly accessible on the Semantic
`Scholar website before November 6,
`1997.
`Exh. 3 (Hall-Ellis Exp. Rep.) at ¶¶
`23, 116-17
`Exh. 1 (Hall-Ellis Dep. Tr.) at 27:1-
`6, 77:25-78:2
`OPPOSING PARTY’S ADDITIONAL MATERIAL FACTS
`Additional Fact 1. Hall-Ellis has opined
`that the produced DSAVT reference is
`not in a condition that creates suspicion
`about its authenticity as it is unaltered
`and complete.
`Hall-Ellis Decl. at ¶ 12.
`Ex. 34 (Hall-Ellis Expert Report) at ¶
`56.
`Ex. 39 (DSAVT).
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`Additional Fact 2. The copyright page
`of
`the DSAVT
`reference
`lists a
`copyright date of 1995 and an “edition
`date” of November 1995.
`Hall-Ellis Decl. at ¶ 12.
`Ex. 34 (Hall-Ellis Expert Report) at ¶
`56.
`D.I. 192-3 at QUALYS00002807.
`Additional Fact 3. The DSAVT MARC
`record bears the same title as the
`DSAVT reference.
`Hall-Ellis Decl.at ¶¶ 11-18.
`Ex. 34 (Hall-Ellis Expert Report) at ¶¶
`56, 59.
`D.I. 192-3 at QUALYS00002805.
`D.I. 192-4 at 27.
`Additional Fact 4. The DSAVT MARC
`record bears the same publisher (and
`publisher’s address) as listed in the
`DSAVT reference.
`Hall-Ellis Decl.at ¶¶ 11-18.
`Ex. 34 (Hall-Ellis Expert Report) at ¶
`56.
`D.I. 192-3 at QUALYS00002806,
`QUALYS00003045.
`D.I. 192-4 at 27.
`Additional Fact 5. The DSAVT MARC
`record bears the same copyright date
`and “edition date” as the DSAVT
`reference.
`Hall-Ellis Decl.at ¶¶ 11-18.
`Ex. 34 (Hall-Ellis Expert Report) at ¶
`56.
`D.I. 192-3 at QUALYS00002807.
`D.I. 192-4 at 27.
`Additional Fact 6. Stubblebine
`independently opined that DSAVT was
`publicly available before November 6,
`1997 based on of his review of two
`webpages.
`Stubblebine Decl. at ¶ 4.
`Ex. 36 (Stubblebine Depo Trans.) at
`23:15-24:7.
`Ex. 5 (Google books webpage).
`Ex. 28 (WinWorld webpage).
`Additional Fact 7. Hall-Ellis opined that
`the Mounji reference
`is not
`in a
`condition that creates suspicion about its
`authenticity as it is unaltered and
`complete.
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`Hall-Ellis Decl. at ¶ 19.
`Ex. 34 (Hall-Ellis Expert Report) at ¶¶
`102-103, 106.
`Ex. 38 (Hall-Ellis Dep. Tr.) at 54:1-4.
`D.I. 192-5.
`Additional Fact 8. Hall-Ellis retrieved
`Mounji from CiteSeerx.
`Hall-Ellis Decl. at ¶ 19.
`Ex. 34 (Hall-Ellis Expert Report) at ¶¶
`102-103.
`Additional Fact 9. The Mounji reference
`bears a date of May 27, 1994.
`Hall-Ellis Decl. at ¶ 24.
`Ex. 34 (Hall-Ellis Expert Report) at ¶
`104.
`D.I. 192-5.
`Additional Fact 10. CiteSeerx indicated
`a 1994 date for Mounji.
`Hall-Ellis Decl. at ¶ 24.
`Ex. 34 (Hall-Ellis Expert Report) at ¶
`104.
`Additional Fact 11. Dr. Hall-Ellis
`opined
`that Mounji was publicly
`available before November 6, 1997
`based on her review of the Mounji
`reference itself and CiteSeerx.
`Hall-Ellis Decl. at ¶ 24.
`Ex. 34 (Hall-Ellis Expert Report) at ¶¶
`102-104.
`Ex. 38 (Hall-Ellis Dep. Tr.) at 54:25-
`57:1.
`Additional Fact 12. The Thomson
`reference is not in a condition that
`creates suspicion about its authenticity
`as it is unaltered and complete.
`Hall-Ellis Decl. at ¶ 19.
`Ex. 34 (Hall-Ellis Expert Report) at ¶¶
`115-116, 119.
`Ex. 38 (Hall-Ellis Dep. Tr.) at 63:8-11.
`D.I. 192-8.
`Additional Fact 13. Hall-Ellis retrieved
`Thomson from Semantic Scholar.
`Hall-Ellis Decl. at ¶ 19.
`Ex. 34 (Hall-Ellis Expert Report) at ¶¶
`115-116.
`Ex. 38 (Hall-Ellis Dep. Tr.) at 63:18-
`20.
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`Additional Fact 14. The ResearchGate
`opening page for Thomson has a date
`of May 1997.
`Hall-Ellis Decl. at ¶ 23.
`Ex. 34 (Hall-Ellis Expert Report) at ¶
`117.
`Ex. 38 (Hall-Ellis Dep. Tr.) at 64:16-
`65:19.
`Additional Fact 15. Dr. Hall-Ellis
`opined that Thomson was publicly
`available before November 6, 1997
`based on her review of the Thomson
`reference and ResearchGate.
`Hall-Ellis Decl. at ¶ 23.
`Ex. 34 (Hall-Ellis Expert Report) at ¶¶
`115-119.
`Ex. 38 (Hall-Ellis Dep. Tr.) at 63:18-
`65:19; 73:4-9.
`Additional Fact 16. The Thomson
`reference is authored by Judi R.
`Thomson and bears a title of “Proxy
`Servers and Databases for Managing
`Web-based Information.”
`Ex. 34 (Hall-Ellis Expert Report) at ¶
`115.
`D.I. 192-8.
`Additional Fact 17. The Internet
`Archive screengrab of the University of
`Saskatchewan’s “1997 Graduate
`Student Symposium” webpage lists a
`paper entitled “Proxy Servers and
`Databases for Managing Web-based
`Information” by author Judi R.
`Thomson.
`Stubblebine Decl. at ¶ 5.
`Ex. 35 (Stubblebine Depo Ex. 31).
`Ex. 36 (Stubblebine Depo Trans.) at
`232:6-233:3.
`Additional Fact 18. The Internet
`Archive screengrab of the University of
`Saskatchewan’s “1997 Graduate
`Student Symposium” webpage states
`“This page last modified Wednesday
`August 27, 1997.”
`Stubblebine Decl. at ¶ 5.
`Ex. 35 (Stubblebine Depo Ex. 31).
`Ex. 36 (Stubblebine Depo Trans.) at
`233:8-234:7.
`Additional Fact 19. Dr. Stubblebine
`independently opines that Thomson was
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`publicly available before November 6,
`1997 based on his review of an Internet
`Archive screengrab of the University of
`Saskatchewan’s
`“1997
`Graduate
`Student Symposium” webpage
`that
`published Judi R. Thomson’s “Proxy
`Servers and Databases for Managing
`Web-based Information.”
`Stubblebine Decl. at ¶¶ 5-6.
`Ex. 35 (Stubblebine Depo Ex. 31).
`Ex. 36 (Stubblebine Depo Trans.) at
`228:3-237:14.
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`ATTESTATION
`I attest that the evidence cited herein fairly and accurately supports the facts as asserted.
`
`Respectfully submitted,
`WILSON SONSINI GOODRICH & ROSATI
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`Dated: May 10, 2021
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`By:
`
`/s/ Edward G. Poplawski
`EDWARD G. POPLAWSKI
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`Counsel for
`QUALYS INC.
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