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`·1· · · · · · ·THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
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`·2· · · · · · ·NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
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`·3· · · · · · · · ·SAN FRANCISCO DIVISION
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`·5· ·FINJAN, INC., a Delaware
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`·6· ·Corporation,
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`·7· · · · · · · Plaintiff,
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`·8· ·V.· · · · · · · · · · · · Case No. 3:17-cv-05659-WHA
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`·9· ·JUNIPER NETWORKS, INC., a
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`10· ·Delaware Corporation,
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`11· · · · · · · Defendant.
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`13· · · · · · · · Videotaped Deposition of
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`14· · · · · · · · · · ·DR. ERIC B. COLE
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`16· · · · · · · · ·Herndon, Virginia 20171
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`17· · · · · · · · ·Thursday, June 21, 2018
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`18· · · · · · · · · · · · 8:00 a.m.
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`21· ·Denise Dobner Vickery, RMR, CRR
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`22· ·JOB NO. J2328299
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`·1· ·standard.
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`·2· ·BY MS. CARSON:
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`·3· · · · · Q.· ·Would you agree that an operation like
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`·4· ·read a file could be suspicious in some context and
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`·5· ·not suspicious in other context?
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`·6· · · · · · · · · · ·MR. KASTENS:· Objection.· Form.
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`·7· · · · · · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· ·I would probably
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`·8· ·state it a little differently.· That reading or
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`·9· ·writing a file would be suspicious, but there would
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`10· ·be some cases in which it was malicious and in some
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`11· ·cases in which it was benign.
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`12· ·BY MS. CARSON:
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`13· · · · · Q.· ·Can you think of any computer
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`14· ·operations that would never be considered
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`15· ·suspicious?
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`16· · · · · · · · · · ·MR. KASTENS:· Objection.· Form.
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`17· · · · · · · · · · ·THE WITNESS:· ·(Pause).· I'm also
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`18· ·cautious of the word "never," but there are
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`19· ·definitely some that -- that would be very, very low
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`20· ·likelihood of being suspicious.
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`21· · · · · · · · · · ·So like today maybe something like
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`22· ·checking a digital certificate of a website would
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