Of specific interest is that this technique uses a -- produces a searchable, encrypted file that is stored in the cloud storage services based on a policy that is assigned to a user.
JUDGE CALVE: Yeah, Patent Owner seems to be arguing that this namespace has to be created with additional naming capability beyond what's used in the immediate context of encrypting and storing, and then I guess it criticizes you for -- for doing that.
And really, the genesis of this whole within a particular context, which is totally unambiguous, was that there was a discussion with our expert, Dr. Lee, where he -- the questions were about flat namespace structure, which could be a single identifier.
So in our case, in our view, really, these arguments don't make sense that, number one, they haven't shown the intent in '678 Patent to have multiple sections or have a single policy that's doing all of these; and
So going back to, now we're on page 21, and this is kind of the continuation of the discussion with Judge Calve where in our Cidon, Shikfa, Herrmann grounds, the process was really very similar to what the '678 Patent is -- is describing.