So is it -- I understood petitioner's position to be that even Case IPR2017-01082 Patent 7,682,243 B2 just service by mail was defective because it didn't follow -- it wasn't addressed by the Clerk of the Court, and it didn't involve FRCP(4)(F)(2)(c)(ii) I think it was.
So if we turn to slide 14, I think that's a good example of that, where we see that the patent owner, when it comes to the terms "pilot" and "unit," was referring to looking at Mazinger Z video game or arcade style game to -- as a support for why a particular construction should be adopted, whereas for "ability," patent owner is asking you to look at the Dungeons & Dragons reference for how "ability" is stated in Dungeons & Dragons.
So I agree that there's a struggle on what is the term to use beyond ability itself for a characteristic versus an attribute, but I think it is clear that we have within the scope of the claims, certainly the Dungeons & Dragons reference meets that for hit points.
Because petitioner directed us to Federal Rules of Civil Procedure 4(F)(C) -- (F)(2)(c)(ii), it says that you have to use a form of mail that the clerk addresses and sends that Case IPR2017-01082 Patent 7,682,243 B2 requires a signed receipt.
And at the very least -- JUDGE GALLIGAN: As I mentioned, as I alluded to, when petitioner was presenting, an attribute may be too broad because as Patent Owner pointed out, it includes hair color, things like that.