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`UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE
`United States Patent and TrademarkOffice
`Address; COMMISSIONER FOR PATENTS
`P.O. Box 1450
`Alexandria, Virginia 22313-1450
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`15/603,013
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`05/23/2017
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`William BANYAI
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`44854-701.402
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`2258
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`WILSON, SONSINI, GOODRICH & ROSATI
`650 PAGE MILL ROAD
`PALO ALTO, CA 94304-1050
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`HAMMELL, NEIL P
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`ART UNIT
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`1636
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`PAPER NUMBER
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`NOTIFICATION DATE
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`DELIVERY MODE
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`04/16/2019
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`ELECTRONIC
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`Please find below and/or attached an Office communication concerning this application or proceeding.
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`The time period for reply, if any, is set in the attached communication.
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`Notice of the Office communication was sent electronically on above-indicated "Notification Date" to the
`following e-mail address(es):
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`patentdocket @ wsgr.com
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`PTOL-90A (Rev. 04/07)
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`Applicant-InitiatedInterview Summary
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`Application No.
`15/603,013
`Examiner
`NEIL P HAMMELL
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`Applicant(s)
`BANYAIet al.
`Art Unit]
`AIA (FITF) Status
`1636
`Yes
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`All participants (applicant, applicants representative, PTO personnel):
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`(1) NEIL P. HAMMELL, Primary Examiner.
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`(2) David Harburger (Reg No 65,159).
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`Date of Interview: 11 April 2019.
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`Type:
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`() Video Conference
`Telephonic
`C) Personal [copy given to: Capplicant © applicant's representative]
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`Exhibit shown or demonstration conducted:
`If Yes, brief description:
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`I Yes
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`No.
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`0103 Oothers
`(101 M112 O102
`Issues Discussed
`(For each of the checked box(es) above, please describe below the issue and detailed description of the discussion)
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`Claim(s) discussed: 1.
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`Identification of prior art discussed:
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`Substanceof Interview
`(For each issue discussed, provide a detailed description and indicate if agreement was reached. Some topics may include: identification or clarification of a
`reference or a portion thereof, claim interpretation, proposed amendments, arguments of any applied referencesetc...)
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`Applicants called to discuss possible claim amendmentsin view of the Notice of Non-Compliant Amendment mailed
`April 1, 2019. The Examiner indicated that an amendmentto the claims filed October 9, 2018 to delete the recitation "
`without correcting errors" in claim 1 would likely overcomethe rejection under 35 USC 112a. Applicants indicated that
`they would take this suggestion into consideration in the subsequent response. No agreement was reached on an
`amendment that would be sufficient to place the claims in condition for allowance..
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`Primary Examiner, Art Unit 1636 U.S. Patent and Trademark Office
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`Applicant recordation instructions: The formal written reply to the last Office action must include the substanceof the interview. (Gee MPEP
`section 713.04). If a reply to the last Office action has already beenfiled, applicant is given a non-extendable period of the longer of one month or
`thirty days from this interview date, or the mailing date of this interview summary form, whichever islater, to file a statement of the substanceof the
`interview
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`Examinerrecordation instructions: Examiners must summarize the substanceof any interview of record. A complete and proper recordation of
`the substance of an interview should include the items listed in MPEP 713.04 for complete and proper recordation including the identification of the
`general thrust of each argument or issue discussed, a general indication of any other pertinent matters discussed regarding patentability and the
`general results or outcome ofthe interview, to include an indication as to whether or not agreement was reached on the issuesraised.
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`OC) Attachment
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`/NEIL P HAMMELL/
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`PTOL-413 (Rev. 8/11/2010)
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`Interview Summary
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`Paper No. 20190411
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`Manual of Patent Examining Procedure (MPEP), Section 713.04, Substanceof Interview Must be Made of Record
`A complete written statement as to the substance of any face-to-face, video conference, or telephoneinterview with regard to an application must be madeof record in the
`application whether or not an agreement with the examiner was reachedat the interview.
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`Summary of Record of Interview Requirements
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`Title 37 Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) 1.133 Interviews
`Paragraph (b}
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`In every instance where reconsideration is requested in view of an interview with an examiner, a complete written statement of the reasons presented at the interview as
`warranting favorable action must be filed by the applicant. An interview does not remove the necessity for reply to Office action as specified in §§ 1.111, 1.135. (85 U.S.C.
`132)
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`37 CFR §1.2 Businessto be transacted in writing.
`All business with the Patent or Trademark Office should be transacted in writing. The personal attendance of applicants or their attorneys or agents at the Patent and
`Trademark Office is unnecessary. The action of the Patent and Trademark Office will be based exclusively on the written record in the Office. No attention will be paid to any
`alleged oral promise, stipulation, or understanding in relation to which there is disagreement or doubt.
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`The action of the Patent and Trademark Office cannot be based exclusively on the written record in the Office if that record isitself
`incomplete through the failure to record the substanceofinterviews.
`It is the responsibility of the applicant or the attorney or agent to make the substanceof an interview of record in the application file, unless
`the examinerindicates he or she will do so. It is the examiners responsibility to see that such a record is made and to correct material inaccuracies
`whichbeardirectly on the question of patentability.
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`Examiners must complete an Interview Summary Form for each interview held where a matter of substance has been discussed during the
`interview by checking the appropriate boxesand filling in the blanks. Discussions regarding only procedural matters, directed solely to restriction
`requirements for which interview recordation is otherwise provided for in Section 812.01 of the Manual of Patent Examining Procedure, or pointing out
`typographical errors or unreadable script in Office actions or the like, are excluded from the interview recordation procedures below. Where the
`substanceof an interview is completely recorded in an Examiners Amendment, no separate Interview Summary Recordis required.
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`The Interview Summary Form shall be given an appropriate Paper No., placed in the right hand portion ofthefile, and listed on the
`"Contents" section of the file wrapper. In a personal interview, a duplicate of the Form is given to the applicant (or attorney or agent) at the conclusion of
`the interview. In the case of a telephone or video-conferenceinterview, the copy is mailed to the applicants correspondence addresseither with or prior
`to the next official communication. If additional correspondence from the examineris not likely before an allowanceorif other circumstancesdictate, the
`Form should be mailed promptly after the interview rather than with the next official communication.
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`The Form provides for recordation of the following information:
`- Application Number (Series Code and Serial Number)
`- Name ofapplicant
`- Name of examiner
`- Date of interview
`- Type of interview (telephonic, video-conference, or personal)
`- Name ofparticipant(s) (applicant, attorney or agent, examiner, other PTO personnel, etc.)
`- An indication whether or not an exhibit was shown or a demonstration conducted
`- An identification of the specific prior art discussed
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`An indication whether an agreement was reached andif so, a description of the general nature of the agreement (may be by
`attachmentof a copy of amendments or claims agreed as being allowable). Note: Agreementas to allowability is tentative and does
`notrestrict further action by the examiner to the contrary.
`- The signature of the examiner who conducted the interview (if Form is not an attachment to a signed Office action)
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`Itis desirable that the examiner orally remind the applicant of his or her obligation to record the substanceof the interview of each case. It
`should be noted, however, that the Interview Summary Form will not normally be considered a complete and proper recordation of the interview unless
`it includes, or is supplemented by the applicant or the examiner to include, all of the applicable items required below concerning the substance of the
`interview.
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`A complete and proper recordation of the substance of any interview should include at least the following applicable items:
`1) A brief description of the nature of any exhibit shown or any demonstration conducted,-
`) an identification of the claims discussed,
`) an identification of the specific prior art discussed,
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`an identification of the principal proposed amendmentsof a substantive nature discussed, unless these are already described on
`the Interview Summary Form completed by the Examiner,
`5) a brief identification of the general thrust of the principal arguments presented to the examiner,
`(The identification of arguments need not be lengthy or elaborate. A verbatim or highly detailed description of the arguments is not
`required. The identification of the argumentsis sufficient if the general nature or thrust of the principal arguments made to the
`examiner can be understoodin the context of the application file. Of course, the applicant may desire to emphasize and fully
`describe those arguments which he or she feels were or might be persuasive to the examiner.)
`6) a general indication of any other pertinent matters discussed, and
`7)
`if appropriate, the general results or outcome ofthe interview unless already described in the Interview Summary Form completed
`by the examiner.
`Examiners are expected to carefully review the applicants record of the substance of an interview. If the record is not complete and accurate,
`the examinerwill give the applicant an extendable one month time period to correct the record.
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`Examiner to Check for Accuracy
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`If the claims are allowable for other reasons of record, the examiner should send a letter setting forth the examiners version of the statement
`attributed to him or her. If the record is complete and accurate, the examiner should place the indication, Interview Record OK on the paperrecording
`the substanceofthe interview along with the date and the examinersinitials.
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