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`JURY TRIAL PROCEEDINGS
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`December 13, 2018
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`Before: Liam O'Grady, USDC Judge
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`And a Jury
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`Norman Linnell and Anneliese Thomson - EDVA-OCRs (703)549-4626
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`R. Sullivan - Direct
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`be used without the multi-level encryption capability?
`A.
`Yes, I was.
`Q.
`And do you understand the concept of non-infringing
`alternatives?
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`I do.
`Q.
`And how does the availability of non-infringing
`alternatives impact your damages analysis?
`A.
`Well, non-infringing alternatives place a limit on how
`much a licensee would be willing to pay for a technology. As
`Mr. Wagner and I both agree, the impact or cost of those
`non-infringing alternatives limits the amount of royalties that
`would be agreed upon, which is another way of saying that
`$4 million or more for the technology is well above the
`non-infringing alternatives that would be available, and thus,
`that's another reason as to why that would not be considered
`reasonable.
`Q.
`And do you understand what the cost of a non-infringing
`alternative would be for Adobe?
`A.
`My -- yes. I have heard testimony in that regard that it
`would cost between 120,000 and 200,000 dollars to, to remove
`the functionality.
`Q.
`And would you speak to the economic rationale of choosing
`a non-infringing alterative as opposed to a price higher than
`that?
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`Well, certainly that places limitations on what the
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