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`IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
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`WACO DIVISION
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`VOIP-PAL.COM, INC.,
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`Plaintiff
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`GOOGLE LLC,
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`Defendants.
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`CASE NO. 6:21-cv-00667-ADA
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`JURY TRIAL DEMANDED
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`REPLY IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDANT GOOGLE LLC’S
`OPPOSED MOTION TO TRANSFER
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`Transfer to the NDCA is favored here. The NDCA is more convenient for at least nine
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`potential witnesses including Google’s employees and inventors of the asserted patents. By
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`contrast, there are no known party witnesses based solely in the WDTX; rather, one witness works
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`in Waco part time. In addition, there are two potential prior-art witnesses within the NDCA’s
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`subpoena power, whereas VoIP-Pal identified only two witnesses within the Court’s subpoena
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`power, both of whom are irrelevant to this analysis because they are paid consultants. Importantly,
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`the NDCA has overseen multiple waves of related litigation including two pending cases. It is also
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`where Google is headquartered and VoIP-Pal maintains evidence. The only connections between
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`the parties and the WDTX are Google’s Austin office, which plays no known role in this case, and
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`VoIP-Pal’s “virtual” Waco office, which was established not long before this case was filed.
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`The Private Interest Factors Favor Transfer
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`The cost of attendance for willing witnesses favors transfer.
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`Google is headquartered in the NDCA, which is more convenient for the majority of its
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`witnesses. See Mot. at 4–5, 7–10. The NDCA is more convenient for nine identified, potential
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`witnesses: seven Google employees and two inventors. Id.; Opp. at 8–11. No known witnesses are
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`based solely out of the WDTX. Id.
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`VoIP-Pal’s arguments highlight that the center of gravity of this case is in the NDCA. For
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`example, VoIP-Pal faults Google for allegedly calling out in its motion two engineers in Sweden
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`and two engineers in Washington, while listing nine engineers in Sweden and ten engineers in
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`Washington in response to VoIP-Pal’s broad venue discovery requests. Opp. at 10. But Google’s
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`1 VoIP-Pal does not dispute that this case could have been brought in the NDCA. See Dkt. 24,
`Defendant Google LLC’s Opposed Motion to Transfer (“Mot.”); Dkt. 46, Plaintiff VoIP-
`Pal.Com’s Opposition to Google LLC’s Opposed Motion to Transfer (“Opp.”).
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`Motion identified the most knowledgeable, non-cumulative individuals—the individuals most
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`likely to be trial witnesses. VoIP-Pal then asked Google to identify those individuals’ direct
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`reports, and whothose individuals report to, which Google did. Declaration of Robert W. Unikel
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`(“Unikel Decl.”)
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`2. If VoIP-Pal were correct that these additional individuals are also likely trial
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`witnesses, this would only support Google’s motion to transfer; Washingtonis closer to the NDCA
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`than to the WDTX,andit is easier to travel from Sweden to the NDCA than to Waco. See Mot. at
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`9-10.
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`VolIP-Pal next points to two co-inventors who would travel to the WDTX fortrial. Opp.at
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`11. But none of these inventors say they would not travel to the NDCA. Dkt. 48-2. In fact, both
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`reside closer to the NDCAthan to the WDTX:in British Columbia. Jd; Mot. at 6. Thus, the NDCA
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`is more convenient for these witnesses as well.
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`Finally, Mr. Williams works in Waco only part-time, from a “virtual office” that was
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`established after VoIP-Palfiled its Wave 3 case against Google and only about a year before this
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`case wasfiled. Unikel Decl. |P 3; Ex. 1-2. Mr. Williams also works out of VoIP-Pal’s Washington
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`office, which is more convenient to the NDCA. Dkt. 26-8. And if VoIP-Pal is correct that “the
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`convenience of VoIP-Pal’s witnessesis not a factor in the transfer analysis” (Opp. at 11), then the
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`scales firmly favor transfer.”
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`? VoIP-Pal levies the unsupported allegation that Google was “less than forthcoming” in venue
`discovery. Opp. at 11. If VoIP-Pal disagreed with the extent or scope of the discovery it received,
`it could have asked to take a deposition or moved to compel additional information.It did neither.
`Google performed a reasonable and diligent investigation and produced responsive information.
`VoIP-Pal points to no specific facts suggesting otherwise. VoIP-Pal alleges that Google did not
`provide evidencethat the accused products were developed in the NDCA (Opp.at 10), but Google
`showedthat there are employees who workon the accused functionalities in the NDCA and none
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`are in Texas. See, e.g., Dkt. 24-1. Google confirmed in venue discover
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`The relative ease of access to sources of proof favors transfer.
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`Both VoIP-Pal’s and Google’s sources of proof favor transfer. VoIP-Pal’s documents
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`related to VoIP-Pal, its technologies and patents, certain communications, and pleadings and
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`disclosures from other cases are all maintained in the NDCA. Exs. 3–5. As for Google’s
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`documents, VoIP-Pal argues that they are just as accessible in the WDTX as in the NDCA (Opp.
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`at 7), but that is legally erroneous. “[D]espite technological advances that make the physical
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`location of documents less significant, the location of sources of proof remains a ‘meaningful
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`factor in the analysis.’” Wet Sounds, Inc. v. Audio Formz, LLC, No. A-17-cv-141-LY, 2017 WL
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`4547916, at *2 (W.D. Tex. Oct. 11, 2017) (citations omitted). Courts should consider “the location
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`of document custodians and location where documents are created and maintained, which may
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`bear on the ease of retrieval.” In re Google LLC, No. 2021-178, 2021 WL 5292267, at *2 (Fed.
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`Cir. Nov. 15, 2021). Google did just that, identifying the custodians who created and maintained
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`relevant documents. Dkt. 24-1 ⁋⁋ 4, 6–9. Many of these individuals are located in or nearer to the
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`NDCA, and none are in the WDTX. Id. Thus, this factor favors transfer.
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`The availability of compulsory process favors transfer.
`Google identified two prior artists under the subpoena power of the NDCA (Mot. at 6, 11–
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`12), whereas VoIP-Pal only identified two paid consultants within the WDTX’s reach (Opp. at 7–
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`8). Neither Google nor VoIP-Pal have identified prior-art witnesses in the WDTX. Contrary to
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`VoIP-Pal’s argument (Opp. at 7–8), Google’s identification of prior artists is entitled to weight.
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`See In re Google, No. 2021-170, 2021 WL 4427899, at *1, 6–7 (Fed. Cir. Sep. 27, 2021) (finding
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`weight should be given to such witnesses, noting Google’s history in “several previous cases in
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`which it had called such witnesses to testify during trial.”). Indeed, these artists can provide
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`information regarding their field and inventions.
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`VoIP-Pal identifies Mr. George Brunt and Mr. Marcus Reading as witnesses whose
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`attendance could be compelled by the Court (Opp. at 8), the convenience of these witnesses
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`“weighs little in the venue analysis” because they appear to be retained consultants, not third-party
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`fact witnesses. See Berry v. Pilgrim’s Pride Corp., No. 2:16-CV-409-JRG, 2016 WL 6092701, at
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`*3 (E.D. Tex. Oct. 19, 2016); Exs. 6–9. It is also unclear what information these witnesses have
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`that VoIP-Pal does not.
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`The practical problems favor transfer.
`VoIP-Pal’s Opposition summarizes the waves of related litigation in the NDCA. Opp. at
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`2–5; Mot. at 1–4. Current Magistrate Judge Virginia DeMarchi was referred to multiple cases in
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`these waves. Unikel Decl. ¶ 14. Additionally, there are two ongoing NDCA cases involving the
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`same patents. Unikel Decl. ¶ 15. The NDCA thus has extensive and growing relevant experience.
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`The mere co-pendency of cases in the WDTX does not weigh against transfer, particularly given
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`the co-pending motions to transfer. See In re Apple Inc., No. 2022-128, 2022 WL 1196768, at *4
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`(Fed. Cir. Apr. 22, 2022).
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` The Public Interest Factors Favor Transfer
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`Court congestion favors transfer or is neutral.
`This Court is more “congested” than the NDCA. While median times to trial are similar at
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`19.1 months in this Court and 22 months in the NDCA (Opp. at 12), this Court has significantly
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`more open cases (1,153) than Judge Donato (406) or DeMarchi (494).3 Exs. 10–12. Even if the
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`Court were to find this factor against transfer, it cannot outweigh the other factors that favor
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`transfer or are neutral. In re Juniper Networks, Inc., 14 F.4th 1313, 1322–23 (Fed. Cir. 2021).
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`3 The cases would likely be assigned to Judge Donato who is currently presiding over related
`cases or Judge DeMarchi who is knowledgeable given her involvement on the prior waves of
`cases. See N.D. Cal. Local Rule 3-12 on Related Cases.
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`2.
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`Local interest favors transfer.
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`The center of gravity is in the NDCA. See In re Apple Inc., 979 F.3d 1332, 1345–1346
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`(Fed. Cir. 2020) (“[T]he lawsuit ‘calls into question the work and reputation of several individuals
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`residing’ in NDCA.”). This is true notwithstanding Google’s Austin office, which is unrelated to
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`this litigation. See id. (to weigh the Austin office in favor of transfer would “improperly conflate
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`the requirements for establishing venue under 28 U.S.C. § 1400(b) and the requirements for
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`establishing transfer under § 1404(a).”); In re Juniper, 14 F.4th at 1320–21. And Google’s
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`footprint is much larger in the NDCA than in the WDTX, with 50,819 employees in the NDCA
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`and 1,755 in Austin. Dkt. 24-1 ⁋⁋ 2–3. Furthermore, VoIP-Pal’s virtual office was established not
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`long before this case was filed. Exs. 1–2. “[L]ittle or no weight should be accorded to a party’s
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`‘recent and ephemeral’ presence in the transferor forum.” In re Juniper, 14 F.4th at 1320–21
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`(citations omitted).
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`3.
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`The Court’s familiarity with the law and the avoidance of conflicts
`concerning the application of foreign law favor transfer.
`This factor favors transfer given the pending cases in the NDCA and the Magistrate
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`Judge who has been referred to related cases. See Mot. at 14.
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`4.
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`The interest of justice favors transfer.
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`“[W]hile a plaintiff has the privilege of filing his claims in any judicial division appropriate
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`under the general venue statute, § 1404(a) tempers the effects of the exercise of this privilege.” In
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`re Volkswagen of Am., Inc., 545 F.3d 304, 313 (Fed. Cir. 2008). The NDCA is the clearly more
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`convenient forum.
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`DATED: May 6, 2022
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`Respectfully submitted,
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`By: /s/ Paige Arnette Amstutz
`Paige Arnette Amstutz
`Texas Bar No.: 00796136
`pamstutz@scottdoug.com
`SCOTT, DOUGLASS & MCCONNICO, LLP
`303 Colorado Street, Suite 2400
`Austin, TX 78701
`Tel: (512) 495-6300
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`Robert W. Unikel (Pro Hac Vice)
`robertunikel@paulhastings.com
`John A. Cotiguala (Pro Hac Vice)
`johncotiguala@paulhastings.com
`Matthew Lind (Pro Hac Vice)
`mattlind@paulhastings.com
`Grayson S. Cornwell (Pro Hac Vice)
`graysoncornwell@paulhastings.com
`PAUL HASTINGS LLP
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`Fax: (312) 499-6100
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`Robert R. Laurenzi (Pro Hac Vice)
`robertlaurenzi@paulhastings.com
`PAUL HASTINGS LLP
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`Fax: (212) 319-4090
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`Matthias A. Kamber (Pro Hac Vice)
`matthiaskamber@paulhastings.com
`PAUL HASTINGS LLP
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`Ariell N. Bratton (Pro Hac Vice)
`ariellbratton@paulhastings.com
`Cole D. Malmberg (Pro Hac Vice)
`colemalmberg@paulhastings.com
`PAUL HASTINGS LLP
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`Counsel for Defendant Google LLC
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
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`Pursuant to the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure and Local Rule CV-5, I hereby certify
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