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`Gray, Michael W. (SHB)
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`Gray, Michael W. (SHB)
`Friday, October 7, 2022 3:27 PM
`Lanier, Greg; Garcia, Edwin O.; McLean, Evan M.; Google Touchstream JD; Michael E.
`Jones; Shaun Hassett
`LaRoque, Sam (SHB); Bergsten, Jordan (SHB); Carlyle, Patrisha L. (SHB); Long, Andrew M.
`(SHB); Miller, Gary M. (SHB); Donoho, Justin R. (SHB); Dykal, Ryan (SHB)
`RE: Touchstream v. Google | Case No. 6:21-CV-569 | Depositions
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`Greg,
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`Regarding Mr. Levai, Google first offered Mr. Levai as a 30(b)(6) designee on a single topic (Topic 36) on September 22,
`2022. Google offered him for deposition, specified that the deposition would be in the Eastern European time zone, and
`made no mention of resorting to the Hague Convention. On September 29, Google clarified that Mr. Levai would be
`made available on October 4, 2022 in Romanian time. Google offered to start the deposition at 7 am Central US time if
`Touchstream agreed to only expect a half-day deposition. If Touchstream wanted more time, Google said the
`deposition would likely need to start earlier. Google again made no mention of resorting to the Hague Convention for
`this deposition. That same day, Touchstream agreed to take Mr. Levai’s deposition remotely starting at 7 am Central US
`time zone on October 4. The next day, Google sent a calendar initiation for his remote deposition under this
`arrangement. On Monday, October 3, the day before the deposition was to take place, Google stated that Mr. Levai was
`no longer available due to travel. Google said that it would provide a new date “as soon as possible.” Google again
`made no mention of resorting to the Hague Convention for this deposition.
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`Today, Google now contends that the 30(b)(6) designation of someone that Google itself identified over two weeks ago,
`and has agreed to a remote deposition under the normal federal rules, is now only available by going through the Hague
`Convention.
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`Touchstream does not agree that Google’s position is appropriate for multiple reasons. First, Google long ago agreed to
`a normal deposition format under the federal rules, twice offered Mr. Levai without resort to the Hague Convention,
`and agreed to Touchstream’s acceptance by sending a calendar initiation for a remote deposition under the agreed
`terms on September 30. Second, Google chose this particular person to provide corporate testimony under Rule
`30(b)(6) on a single topic. If Google prefers to educate another witness, and provide that witness under the normal
`federal rules for depositions, Google is free to do so.
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`Touchstream does not agree to any deposition of Mr. Levai under the Hague Convention for at least these reasons and
`the reasons set forth in our responses regarding Ms. Boboholma. Please let us know Google’s plans for providing a
`witness to Topic 36 of Touchstream’s 30(b)(6) Deposition Notice.
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`Regards,
`Michael
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`Michael W. Gray
`Of Counsel
`Shook, Hardy & Bacon L.L.P.
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`713.546.5669 | mgray@shb.com
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`From: Lanier, Greg <tglanier@JonesDay.com>
`Sent: Friday, October 7, 2022 2:56 PM
`To: Gray, Michael W. (SHB) <MGRAY@shb.com>; Garcia, Edwin O. <edwingarcia@jonesday.com>; McLean, Evan M.
`<emclean@jonesday.com>; Google Touchstream JD <Google-Touchstream-JD@jonesday.com>; Michael E. Jones
`<mikejones@potterminton.com>; Shaun Hassett <shaunhassett@potterminton.com>
`Cc: LaRoque, Sam (SHB) <slaroque@shb.com>; Bergsten, Jordan (SHB) <JBERGSTEN@shb.com>; Carlyle, Patrisha L. (SHB)
`<pcarlyle@shb.com>; Long, Andrew M. (SHB) <AMLONG@shb.com>; Miller, Gary M. (SHB) <GMILLER@shb.com>;
`Donoho, Justin R. (SHB) <jdonoho@shb.com>; Dykal, Ryan (SHB) <RDYKAL@shb.com>
`Subject: RE: Touchstream v. Google | Case No. 6:21-CV-569 | Depositions
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`EXTERNAL
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`Michael,
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`We are working on dates for the Google witnesses and will report shortly.
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`With respect to Levai specifically, his travel schedule has continued to change and it is likely he will be remaining in
`Switzerland for a while. As a result, early next week we will bring a motion to start the Hague process for that
`deposition, along the lines of the draft motion we had previously sent you re Ms. Boboholma. Please let us know if
`Touchstream will join, consent or oppose.
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`We confirm October 21 for Mitschele. If a date the following week becomes available, we would prefer that. But if not,
`we confirm October 21.
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`Greg
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`Tharan Gregory Lanier
`Partner
`JONES DAY® - One Firm Worldwide℠
`1755 Embarcadero Road
`Palo Alto, CA 94303
`650-739-3939 (main)
`650-739-3941 (direct)
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`From: Gray, Michael W. (SHB) <MGRAY@shb.com>
`Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 4:04 PM
`To: Garcia, Edwin O. <edwingarcia@jonesday.com>; McLean, Evan M. <emclean@jonesday.com>; Lanier, Greg
`<tglanier@JonesDay.com>; Google Touchstream JD <Google-Touchstream-JD@jonesday.com>; Michael E. Jones
`<mikejones@potterminton.com>; Shaun Hassett <shaunhassett@potterminton.com>
`Cc: LaRoque, Sam (SHB) <slaroque@shb.com>; Bergsten, Jordan (SHB) <JBERGSTEN@shb.com>; Carlyle, Patrisha L. (SHB)
`<pcarlyle@shb.com>; Long, Andrew M. (SHB) <AMLONG@shb.com>; Miller, Gary M. (SHB) <GMILLER@shb.com>;
`Donoho, Justin R. (SHB) <jdonoho@shb.com>; Dykal, Ryan (SHB) <RDYKAL@shb.com>
`Subject: RE: Touchstream v. Google | Case No. 6:21-CV-569 | Depositions
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`Counsel,
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`We have the following witnesses still to be scheduled. Please provide dates for these witnesses.
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`Remaining Google Witnesses:
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` Maigret
` Virumi
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`Levai
` Van Der Staay
` Rupersburg
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`Remaining Third Party Witnesses:
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` Visal Misra
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`For Herb Meitschle, his only available date prior to expert reports is October 21. Please confirm Google will take his
`deposition on that date.
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`Thanks,
`Michael
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`From: Garcia, Edwin O. <edwingarcia@jonesday.com>
`Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 12:09 PM
`To: Gray, Michael W. (SHB) <MGRAY@shb.com>; McLean, Evan M. <emclean@jonesday.com>; Dykal, Ryan (SHB)
`<RDYKAL@shb.com>; Lanier, Greg <tglanier@JonesDay.com>; Google Touchstream JD <Google-Touchstream-
`JD@jonesday.com>; Michael E. Jones <mikejones@potterminton.com>; Shaun Hassett
`<shaunhassett@potterminton.com>
`Cc: Gilkey, Jack (SHB) <JGILKEY@shb.com>; LaRoque, Sam (SHB) <slaroque@shb.com>; Bergsten, Jordan (SHB)
`<JBERGSTEN@shb.com>; Carlyle, Patrisha L. (SHB) <pcarlyle@shb.com>; Long, Andrew M. (SHB) <AMLONG@shb.com>;
`Miller, Gary M. (SHB) <GMILLER@shb.com>; Donoho, Justin R. (SHB) <jdonoho@shb.com>
`Subject: RE: Touchstream v. Google | Case No. 6:21-CV-569 | Depositions
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`Michael:
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`We can offer Mr. Bonato on Monday 10/10. Please confirm this date works for Touchstream.
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`Regards,
`Edwin
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`Edwin O. Garcia
`Associate
`JONES DAY® - One Firm Worldwide®
`51 Louisiana Avenue, N.W.
`Washington, D.C. 20001
`Office +1.202.879.3695
`(Admitted in Texas; not admitted in District of Columbia; practice limited to cases in federal court and agencies)
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`From: Gray, Michael W. (SHB) <MGRAY@shb.com>
`Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 1:19 PM
`To: McLean, Evan M. <emclean@jonesday.com>; Dykal, Ryan (SHB) <RDYKAL@shb.com>; Lanier, Greg
`<tglanier@JonesDay.com>; Garcia, Edwin O. <edwingarcia@jonesday.com>; Google Touchstream JD <Google-
`Touchstream-JD@jonesday.com>; Michael E. Jones <mikejones@potterminton.com>; Shaun Hassett
`<shaunhassett@potterminton.com>
`Cc: Gilkey, Jack (SHB) <JGILKEY@shb.com>; LaRoque, Sam (SHB) <slaroque@shb.com>; Bergsten, Jordan (SHB)
`<JBERGSTEN@shb.com>; Carlyle, Patrisha L. (SHB) <pcarlyle@shb.com>; Long, Andrew M. (SHB) <AMLONG@shb.com>;
`Miller, Gary M. (SHB) <GMILLER@shb.com>; Donoho, Justin R. (SHB) <jdonoho@shb.com>
`Subject: RE: Touchstream v. Google | Case No. 6:21-CV-569 | Depositions
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`** External mail **
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`Evan,
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`Understood, and we will wait to hear from you for a new date for Mr. Levai. Unfortunately we also need to request a
`new date for Mr. Bonato’s deposition, which was also to be tomorrow. Please let us know a new date next week for Mr.
`Bonato.
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`Thanks,
`Michael
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`From: McLean, Evan M. <emclean@jonesday.com>
`Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 9:48 AM
`To: Gray, Michael W. (SHB) <MGRAY@shb.com>; Dykal, Ryan (SHB) <RDYKAL@shb.com>; Lanier, Greg
`<tglanier@JonesDay.com>; Garcia, Edwin O. <edwingarcia@jonesday.com>; Google Touchstream JD <Google-
`Touchstream-JD@jonesday.com>; Michael E. Jones <mikejones@potterminton.com>; Shaun Hassett
`<shaunhassett@potterminton.com>
`Cc: Gilkey, Jack (SHB) <JGILKEY@shb.com>; LaRoque, Sam (SHB) <slaroque@shb.com>; Bergsten, Jordan (SHB)
`<JBERGSTEN@shb.com>; Carlyle, Patrisha L. (SHB) <pcarlyle@shb.com>; Long, Andrew M. (SHB) <AMLONG@shb.com>;
`Miller, Gary M. (SHB) <GMILLER@shb.com>; Donoho, Justin R. (SHB) <jdonoho@shb.com>
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`EXTERNAL
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`Counsel,
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`Unfortunately, Mr. Levai’s travel plans have changed, making him unavailable to sit for the deposition on Tuesday. We
`are working on getting a new date for his availability, and we will provide it as soon as possible.
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`Best regards,
`Evan
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`Evan McLean (bio)
`Partner
`JONES DAY® - One Firm Worldwide℠
`1755 Embarcadero Road
`Palo Alto, CA 94303
`Office +1.650.687.4149
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`From: Gray, Michael W. (SHB) <MGRAY@shb.com>
`Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 1:40 PM
`To: McLean, Evan M. <emclean@jonesday.com>; Dykal, Ryan (SHB) <RDYKAL@shb.com>; Lanier, Greg
`<tglanier@JonesDay.com>; Garcia, Edwin O. <edwingarcia@jonesday.com>; Google Touchstream JD <Google-
`Touchstream-JD@jonesday.com>; Michael E. Jones <mikejones@potterminton.com>; Shaun Hassett
`<shaunhassett@potterminton.com>
`Cc: Gilkey, Jack (SHB) <JGILKEY@shb.com>; LaRoque, Sam (SHB) <slaroque@shb.com>; Bergsten, Jordan (SHB)
`<JBERGSTEN@shb.com>; Carlyle, Patrisha L. (SHB) <pcarlyle@shb.com>; Long, Andrew M. (SHB) <AMLONG@shb.com>;
`Miller, Gary M. (SHB) <GMILLER@shb.com>; Donoho, Justin R. (SHB) <jdonoho@shb.com>
`Subject: RE: Touchstream v. Google | Case No. 6:21-CV-569 | Depositions
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`** External mail **
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`Evan,
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`We can take Mr. Levai at 7 am Central on October 4.
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`Thanks,
`Michael
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`From: McLean, Evan M. <emclean@jonesday.com>
`Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 2:01 PM
`To: Dykal, Ryan (SHB) <RDYKAL@shb.com>; Lanier, Greg <tglanier@JonesDay.com>; Gray, Michael W. (SHB)
`<MGRAY@shb.com>; Garcia, Edwin O. <edwingarcia@jonesday.com>; Google Touchstream JD <Google-Touchstream-
`JD@jonesday.com>; Michael E. Jones <mikejones@potterminton.com>; Shaun Hassett
`<shaunhassett@potterminton.com>
`Cc: Gilkey, Jack (SHB) <JGILKEY@shb.com>; LaRoque, Sam (SHB) <slaroque@shb.com>; Bergsten, Jordan (SHB)
`<JBERGSTEN@shb.com>; Carlyle, Patrisha L. (SHB) <pcarlyle@shb.com>; Long, Andrew M. (SHB) <AMLONG@shb.com>;
`Miller, Gary M. (SHB) <GMILLER@shb.com>; Donoho, Justin R. (SHB) <jdonoho@shb.com>
`Subject: RE: Touchstream v. Google | Case No. 6:21-CV-569 | Depositions
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`EXTERNAL
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`Counsel,
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`We have previously informed you that Mr. Levai will be available for deposition on October 4 EET (Romania
`time). Please let us know if you would expect to take only a half day for Mr. Levai, if so he is available to start at 2pm
`EET, which is equivalent to 7am CT. If you expect to take more time, then we would likely need to start sooner.
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`As for Mr. Kenghe’s deposition, he can be available on Thursday, October 6 at 6:30pm IST to 10:30 pm IST, which is
`equivalent to 8am to 12pm CT on October 6.
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`Please confirm by tomorrow that you will take these depositions at these dates and times.
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`Best regards,
`Evan
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`Evan McLean (bio)
`Partner
`JONES DAY® - One Firm Worldwide℠
`1755 Embarcadero Road
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`Palo Alto, CA 94303
`Office +1.650.687.4149
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`From: Dykal, Ryan (SHB) <RDYKAL@shb.com>
`Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 10:50 AM
`To: Lanier, Greg <tglanier@JonesDay.com>; Gray, Michael W. (SHB) <MGRAY@shb.com>; McLean, Evan M.
`<emclean@jonesday.com>; Garcia, Edwin O. <edwingarcia@jonesday.com>; Google Touchstream JD <Google-
`Touchstream-JD@jonesday.com>; Michael E. Jones <mikejones@potterminton.com>; Shaun Hassett
`<shaunhassett@potterminton.com>
`Cc: Gilkey, Jack (SHB) <JGILKEY@shb.com>; LaRoque, Sam (SHB) <slaroque@shb.com>; Bergsten, Jordan (SHB)
`<JBERGSTEN@shb.com>; Carlyle, Patrisha L. (SHB) <pcarlyle@shb.com>; Long, Andrew M. (SHB) <AMLONG@shb.com>;
`Miller, Gary M. (SHB) <GMILLER@shb.com>; Donoho, Justin R. (SHB) <jdonoho@shb.com>
`Subject: Re: Touchstream v. Google | Case No. 6:21-CV-569 | Depositions
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`** External mail **
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`Great, thank you Greg. We will adjust the calendars and send an update. Appreciate the quick turnaround.
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`Ryan
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`From: "Lanier, Greg" <tglanier@JonesDay.com>
`Date: Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 12:48 PM
`To: "Dykal, Ryan (SHB)" <RDYKAL@shb.com>, "Gray, Michael W. (SHB)" <MGRAY@shb.com>, "McLean, Evan
`M." <emclean@jonesday.com>, "Garcia, Edwin O." <edwingarcia@jonesday.com>, Google Touchstream JD
`<Google-Touchstream-JD@jonesday.com>, "Michael E. Jones" <mikejones@potterminton.com>, Shaun
`Hassett <shaunhassett@potterminton.com>
`Cc: "Gilkey, Jack (SHB)" <JGILKEY@shb.com>, "LaRoque, Sam (SHB)" <slaroque@shb.com>, "Bergsten, Jordan
`(SHB)" <JBERGSTEN@shb.com>, "Carlyle, Patrisha L. (SHB)" <pcarlyle@shb.com>, "Long, Andrew M. (SHB)"
`<AMLONG@shb.com>, "Miller, Gary M. (SHB)" <GMILLER@shb.com>, "Donoho, Justin R. (SHB)"
`<jdonoho@shb.com>
`Subject: RE: Touchstream v. Google | Case No. 6:21-CV-569 | Depositions
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`EXTERNAL
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`Ryan, 1-4:30 PT tomorrow works for us and Mr. Bakar. Please confirm asap and we will adjust calendars and see you
`then.
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`Greg
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`Tharan Gregory Lanier
`Partner
`JONES DAY® - One Firm Worldwide℠
`1755 Embarcadero Road
`Palo Alto, CA 94303
`650-739-3939 (main)
`650-739-3941 (direct)
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`From: Lanier, Greg <tglanier@JonesDay.com>
`Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 10:33 AM
`To: Dykal, Ryan (SHB) <RDYKAL@shb.com>; Gray, Michael W. (SHB) <MGRAY@shb.com>; McLean, Evan M.
`<emclean@jonesday.com>; Garcia, Edwin O. <edwingarcia@jonesday.com>; Google Touchstream JD <Google-
`Touchstream-JD@jonesday.com>; Michael E. Jones <mikejones@potterminton.com>; Shaun Hassett
`<shaunhassett@potterminton.com>
`Cc: Gilkey, Jack (SHB) <JGILKEY@shb.com>; LaRoque, Sam (SHB) <slaroque@shb.com>; Bergsten, Jordan (SHB)
`<JBERGSTEN@shb.com>; Carlyle, Patrisha L. (SHB) <pcarlyle@shb.com>; Long, Andrew M. (SHB) <AMLONG@shb.com>;
`Miller, Gary M. (SHB) <GMILLER@shb.com>; Donoho, Justin R. (SHB) <jdonoho@shb.com>
`Subject: RE: Touchstream v. Google | Case No. 6:21-CV-569 | Depositions
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`Ryan, I am checking right now.
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`Greg
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`Tharan Gregory Lanier
`Partner
`JONES DAY® - One Firm Worldwide℠
`1755 Embarcadero Road
`Palo Alto, CA 94303
`650-739-3939 (main)
`650-739-3941 (direct)
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`From: Dykal, Ryan (SHB) <RDYKAL@shb.com>
`Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 10:24 AM
`To: Lanier, Greg <tglanier@JonesDay.com>; Gray, Michael W. (SHB) <MGRAY@shb.com>; McLean, Evan M.
`<emclean@jonesday.com>; Garcia, Edwin O. <edwingarcia@jonesday.com>; Google Touchstream JD <Google-
`Touchstream-JD@jonesday.com>; Michael E. Jones <mikejones@potterminton.com>; Shaun Hassett
`<shaunhassett@potterminton.com>
`Cc: Gilkey, Jack (SHB) <JGILKEY@shb.com>; LaRoque, Sam (SHB) <slaroque@shb.com>; Bergsten, Jordan (SHB)
`<JBERGSTEN@shb.com>; Carlyle, Patrisha L. (SHB) <pcarlyle@shb.com>; Long, Andrew M. (SHB) <AMLONG@shb.com>;
`Miller, Gary M. (SHB) <GMILLER@shb.com>; Donoho, Justin R. (SHB) <jdonoho@shb.com>
`Subject: Re: Touchstream v. Google | Case No. 6:21-CV-569 | Depositions
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`** External mail **
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`Thanks, Greg. Appreciate the quick turnaround. Is there any way we could do 1-4:30pm tomorrow?
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`From: "Lanier, Greg" <tglanier@JonesDay.com>
`Date: Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 12:14 PM
`To: "Dykal, Ryan (SHB)" <RDYKAL@shb.com>, "Gray, Michael W. (SHB)" <MGRAY@shb.com>, "McLean, Evan
`M." <emclean@jonesday.com>, "Garcia, Edwin O." <edwingarcia@jonesday.com>, Google Touchstream JD
`<Google-Touchstream-JD@jonesday.com>, "Michael E. Jones" <mikejones@potterminton.com>, Shaun
`Hassett <shaunhassett@potterminton.com>
`Cc: "Gilkey, Jack (SHB)" <JGILKEY@shb.com>, "LaRoque, Sam (SHB)" <slaroque@shb.com>, "Bergsten, Jordan
`(SHB)" <JBERGSTEN@shb.com>, "Carlyle, Patrisha L. (SHB)" <pcarlyle@shb.com>, "Long, Andrew M. (SHB)"
`<AMLONG@shb.com>, "Miller, Gary M. (SHB)" <GMILLER@shb.com>, "Donoho, Justin R. (SHB)"
`<jdonoho@shb.com>
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`EXTERNAL
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`Ryan, Mr. Bakar is available tomorrow at the same time slot (2-5:30pm). Will that work for you? Please let us know as
`soon as possible.
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`Thanks,
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`Greg
`
`Tharan Gregory Lanier
`Partner
`JONES DAY® - One Firm Worldwide℠
`1755 Embarcadero Road
`Palo Alto, CA 94303
`650-739-3939 (main)
`650-739-3941 (direct)
`
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`From: Dykal, Ryan (SHB) <RDYKAL@shb.com>
`Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 9:26 AM
`To: Lanier, Greg <tglanier@JonesDay.com>; Gray, Michael W. (SHB) <MGRAY@shb.com>; McLean, Evan M.
`<emclean@jonesday.com>; Garcia, Edwin O. <edwingarcia@jonesday.com>; Google Touchstream JD <Google-
`Touchstream-JD@jonesday.com>; Michael E. Jones <mikejones@potterminton.com>; Shaun Hassett
`<shaunhassett@potterminton.com>
`Cc: Gilkey, Jack (SHB) <JGILKEY@shb.com>; LaRoque, Sam (SHB) <slaroque@shb.com>; Bergsten, Jordan (SHB)
`<JBERGSTEN@shb.com>; Carlyle, Patrisha L. (SHB) <pcarlyle@shb.com>; Long, Andrew M. (SHB) <AMLONG@shb.com>;
`Miller, Gary M. (SHB) <GMILLER@shb.com>; Donoho, Justin R. (SHB) <jdonoho@shb.com>
`Subject: Re: Touchstream v. Google | Case No. 6:21-CV-569 | Depositions
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`** External mail **
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`Thanks, Greg. Will do.
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`Ryan
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`From: "Lanier, Greg" <tglanier@JonesDay.com>
`Date: Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 11:24 AM
`To: "Dykal, Ryan (SHB)" <RDYKAL@shb.com>, "Gray, Michael W. (SHB)" <MGRAY@shb.com>, "McLean, Evan
`M." <emclean@jonesday.com>, "Garcia, Edwin O." <edwingarcia@jonesday.com>, Google Touchstream JD
`<Google-Touchstream-JD@jonesday.com>, "Michael E. Jones" <mikejones@potterminton.com>, Shaun
`Hassett <shaunhassett@potterminton.com>
`Cc: "Gilkey, Jack (SHB)" <JGILKEY@shb.com>, "LaRoque, Sam (SHB)" <slaroque@shb.com>, "Bergsten, Jordan
`(SHB)" <JBERGSTEN@shb.com>, "Carlyle, Patrisha L. (SHB)" <pcarlyle@shb.com>, "Long, Andrew M. (SHB)"
`<AMLONG@shb.com>, "Miller, Gary M. (SHB)" <GMILLER@shb.com>, "Donoho, Justin R. (SHB)"
`<jdonoho@shb.com>
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`EXTERNAL
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`Ryan, we will check but I do believe that may present an issue. We had been looking at the two proceeding in parallel,
`so while we check in Mr. Bakar’s schedule, please check that on your end.
`
`Thanks,
`
`Greg
`
`Tharan Gregory Lanier
`Partner
`JONES DAY® - One Firm Worldwide℠
`1755 Embarcadero Road
`Palo Alto, CA 94303
`650-739-3939 (main)
`650-739-3941 (direct)
`
`
`From: Dykal, Ryan (SHB) <RDYKAL@shb.com>
`Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 9:18 AM
`To: Gray, Michael W. (SHB) <MGRAY@shb.com>; McLean, Evan M. <emclean@jonesday.com>; Garcia, Edwin O.
`<edwingarcia@jonesday.com>; Lanier, Greg <tglanier@JonesDay.com>; Google Touchstream JD <Google-Touchstream-
`JD@jonesday.com>; Michael E. Jones <mikejones@potterminton.com>; Shaun Hassett
`<shaunhassett@potterminton.com>
`Cc: Gilkey, Jack (SHB) <JGILKEY@shb.com>; LaRoque, Sam (SHB) <slaroque@shb.com>; Bergsten, Jordan (SHB)
`<JBERGSTEN@shb.com>; Carlyle, Patrisha L. (SHB) <pcarlyle@shb.com>; Long, Andrew M. (SHB) <AMLONG@shb.com>;
`Miller, Gary M. (SHB) <GMILLER@shb.com>; Donoho, Justin R. (SHB) <jdonoho@shb.com>
`Subject: Re: Touchstream v. Google | Case No. 6:21-CV-569 | Depositions
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`** External mail **
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`Counsel,
`
`In light of the Court’s setting of a hearing today at 4:30pm Central, we will need to delay the start of Mr. Bakar’s
`deposition until after that hearing (currently set to start at 4pm). Given Mr. Bakar’s heavy involvement in the accused
`products, we anticipate needing at least the allotted 3.5 hours with him (if not more). Please let us know ASAP if this
`presents an issue.
`
`Thanks,
`Ryan
`
`From: "Gray, Michael W. (SHB)" <MGRAY@shb.com>
`Date: Monday, September 26, 2022 at 4:06 PM
`To: "McLean, Evan M." <emclean@jonesday.com>, "Garcia, Edwin O." <edwingarcia@jonesday.com>, "Lanier,
`Greg" <tglanier@JonesDay.com>, Google Touchstream JD <Google-Touchstream-JD@jonesday.com>,
`"Michael E. Jones" <mikejones@potterminton.com>, Shaun Hassett <shaunhassett@potterminton.com>
`Cc: "Gilkey, Jack (SHB)" <JGILKEY@shb.com>, "Dykal, Ryan (SHB)" <RDYKAL@shb.com>, "LaRoque, Sam (SHB)"
`<slaroque@shb.com>, "Bergsten, Jordan (SHB)" <JBERGSTEN@shb.com>, "Carlyle, Patrisha L. (SHB)"
`<pcarlyle@shb.com>, "Long, Andrew M. (SHB)" <AMLONG@shb.com>, "Miller, Gary M. (SHB)"
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`<GMILLER@shb.com>, "Donoho, Justin R. (SHB)" <jdonoho@shb.com>
`Subject: RE: Touchstream v. Google | Case No. 6:21-CV-569 | Depositions
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`Evan,
`
`We can accept taking Mr. Bakar from 2:00 pm Pacific to 5:30 pm Pacific on September 29. However, while we can try to
`finish his deposition in 3.5 hours, if the need for more time arises, Touchstream reserves all rights to seek additional
`time.
`
`For Mr. Maigret, if Google has produced all of its financial documents by this Thursday (September 29), we could agree
`to October 6 for his deposition (current offer October 3). We could also agree to a later date after October 6, now that
`the parties have agreed to move the close of fact discovery to October 13. Given the other depositions scheduled for
`October 6, if Google prefers to move Mr. Weixel back to October 3, we could now accommodate that date for Mr.
`Weixel.
`
`Please let us know.
`
`Regards,
`Michael
`
`
`From: McLean, Evan M. <emclean@jonesday.com>
`Sent: Monday, September 26, 2022 2:09 PM
`To: Gray, Michael W. (SHB) <MGRAY@shb.com>; Garcia, Edwin O. <edwingarcia@jonesday.com>
`Cc: Lanier, Greg <tglanier@JonesDay.com>; Gilkey, Jack (SHB) <JGILKEY@shb.com>; Google Touchstream JD <Google-
`Touchstream-JD@jonesday.com>; Michael E. Jones <mikejones@potterminton.com>; Shaun Hassett
`<shaunhassett@potterminton.com>; Dykal, Ryan (SHB) <RDYKAL@shb.com>; LaRoque, Sam (SHB)
`<slaroque@shb.com>; Bergsten, Jordan (SHB) <JBERGSTEN@shb.com>; Carlyle, Patrisha L. (SHB) <pcarlyle@shb.com>;
`Long, Andrew M. (SHB) <AMLONG@shb.com>; Miller, Gary M. (SHB) <GMILLER@shb.com>; Donoho, Justin R. (SHB)
`<jdonoho@shb.com>
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`EXTERNAL
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`Thanks, Michael, for confirming the deposition of Mr. Robins.
`
`As for the deposition of Mr. Rinzler, we are only expecting to take about a half day.
`
`In addition, we have a slight change in Mr. Bakar’s schedule. Instead of 1:30-5pm PT on 9/29, we understand that his
`availability is actually from 2:00-5:30pm PT (i.e., a half-hour later). Please confirm that this schedule still works for
`Touchstream.
`
`Best regards,
`Evan
`
`Evan McLean (bio)
`Partner
`JONES DAY® - One Firm Worldwide℠
`1755 Embarcadero Road
`Palo Alto, CA 94303
`Office +1.650.687.4149
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`From: Gray, Michael W. (SHB) <MGRAY@shb.com>
`Sent: Monday, September 26, 2022 5:40 AM
`To: McLean, Evan M. <emclean@jonesday.com>; Garcia, Edwin O. <edwingarcia@jonesday.com>
`Cc: Lanier, Greg <tglanier@JonesDay.com>; Gilkey, Jack (SHB) <JGILKEY@shb.com>; Google Touchstream JD <Google-
`Touchstream-JD@jonesday.com>; Michael E. Jones <mikejones@potterminton.com>; Shaun Hassett
`<shaunhassett@potterminton.com>; Dykal, Ryan (SHB) <RDYKAL@shb.com>; LaRoque, Sam (SHB)
`<slaroque@shb.com>; Bergsten, Jordan (SHB) <JBERGSTEN@shb.com>; Carlyle, Patrisha L. (SHB) <pcarlyle@shb.com>;
`Long, Andrew M. (SHB) <AMLONG@shb.com>; Miller, Gary M. (SHB) <GMILLER@shb.com>; Donoho, Justin R. (SHB)
`<jdonoho@shb.com>
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`** External mail **
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`Counsel,
`
`Touchstream will take the deposition of Mr. Robins on September 28. We will get back to you on the other issues raised
`below.
`
`Regards,
`Michael
`
`From: McLean, Evan M. <emclean@jonesday.com>
`Sent: Friday, September 23, 2022 5:26 PM
`To: Gray, Michael W. (SHB) <MGRAY@shb.com>; Garcia, Edwin O. <edwingarcia@jonesday.com>
`Cc: Lanier, Greg <tglanier@JonesDay.com>; Gilkey, Jack (SHB) <JGILKEY@shb.com>; Google Touchstream JD <Google-
`Touchstream-JD@jonesday.com>; Michael E. Jones <mikejones@potterminton.com>; Shaun Hassett
`<shaunhassett@potterminton.com>; Dykal, Ryan (SHB) <RDYKAL@shb.com>; LaRoque, Sam (SHB)
`<slaroque@shb.com>; Bergsten, Jordan (SHB) <JBERGSTEN@shb.com>; Carlyle, Patrisha L. (SHB) <pcarlyle@shb.com>;
`Long, Andrew M. (SHB) <AMLONG@shb.com>; Miller, Gary M. (SHB) <GMILLER@shb.com>
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`Counsel:
`
`We write to address several issues regarding depositions and the case schedule in view of several recent exchanges
`between our teams.
`
`First, we wanted to confirm the deposition dates that are set, including some you recently offered or accepted:
`
`
`9/29
`Mike Rinzler
`9/29 1:30 - 5 pm end
`Majd Bakar
`9/30
`Jamie Cohen
`Herb Mitschele 9/30
`George Bonanto 10/4
`Chris Cooke
`10/5
`Meher Vurimi
`10/6
`Jack Weixel
`10/6
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`We are all working hard to schedule, but as you have told with respect to many Touchstream witnesses, Google folks
`also have crowded calendars and the confirmed depositions must go forward on the confirmed dates, or else they may
`not happen at all.
`
`Second, here are the depositions that we see as remaining open (with dates that we have proposed, where available):
`
`
`Corey Robins
`Michael Maigret
`Johnny Levai
`
`Current offer: Given the failure to timely confirm the
`deposition in response to our 9/22 email, Mr. Robins is no
`longer available for deposition on 9/26. Mr. Robins is only
`available on 9/28 next week, and he is not available the
`first week of October.
`Current offer: 10/3
`Current offer: 10/4 EET
`Current offer: 10/7 IST during regular business hours as
`previously noted, or on 10/6 PT if Touchstream agrees to a
`deposition time of 8 AM start - 10:00 AM PT end
`Ambarish Kenghe
`Matt Van Der Staay TBD
`Micah Rupersburg TBD
`Visal Misra
`TBD
`
`
`Please confirm that there are no other depositions that remain to be scheduled.
`
`Third, we both agree there are a lot of depositions to get done, both ways, and that the schedule is a bit pressed. We
`propose that the parties agree to move the close of fact discovery, opening and responsive expert report dates, and the
`close of expert discovery, each back by one week and conclude the few remaining unscheduled depositions during the
`week of October 10. All confirmed, scheduled depositions would stay as currently scheduled, and the parties would
`work to get as many depositions, and all other discovery, concluded by the current discovery cut-off. Please let us know
`if this proposal is agreeable and we can lock down the remaining deposition dates.
`
`Regards,
`Evan
`
`
`Evan McLean (bio)
`Partner
`JONES DAY® - One Firm Worldwide℠
`1755 Embarcadero Road
`Palo Alto, CA 94303
`Office +1.650.687.4149
`
`From: Gray, Michael W. (SHB) <MGRAY@shb.com>
`Sent: Friday, September 23, 2022 2:46 PM
`To: Garcia, Edwin O. <edwingarcia@jonesday.com>
`Cc: Lanier, Greg <tglanier@JonesDay.com>; Gilkey, Jack (SHB) <JGILKEY@shb.com>; Google Touchstream JD <Google-
`Touchstream-JD@jonesday.com>; Michael E. Jones <mikejones@potterminton.com>; Shaun Hassett
`<shaunhassett@potterminton.com>; Dykal, Ryan (SHB) <RDYKAL@shb.com>; LaRoque, Sam (SHB)
`<slaroque@shb.com>; Bergsten, Jordan (SHB) <JBERGSTEN@shb.com>; Carlyle, Patrisha L. (SHB) <pcarlyle@shb.com>;
`Long, Andrew M. (SHB) <AMLONG@shb.com>; Miller, Gary M. (SHB) <GMILLER@shb.com>
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`** External mail **
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`Edwin,
`
`We will take the deposition of Mr. Bakar on the afternoon of September 29.
`
`Regards,
`Michael
`
`
`On Sep 22, 2022, at 2:48 PM, Garcia, Edwin O. <edwingarcia@jonesday.com> wrote:
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`
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`EXTERNAL
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`Counsel:
`
`
`As a follow up to the deposition scheduling please note that:
`1. As to Touchstream’s Topic No. 36, we are designating Johnny Levai. We can tentatively offer
`him on 10/4 EET.
`2. As to Mr. Bakar, we can tentatively offer him on 9/30 as previously noted, or on 9/29 if
`Touchstream agrees to a deposition time of 1:30 PM start - 5 PM PT end.
`3. As to Mr. Kenghe, we can tentatively offer him on 10/7 IST during regular business hours as
`previously noted, or on 10/6 PT if Touchstream agrees to a deposition time of 8 AM start - 10:00
`AM PT end.
`
`
`
`Given the time left in the schedule, we request that Touchstream confirm by 1:00 PM ET tomorrow
`which depositions offered for next week it intends to move forward with. At this stage we understand
`Touchstream is not moving forward with Mr. Robins’s deposition as offered on 9/26. With only two
`weeks left in the schedule, Touchstream’s failure to confirm offered dates as soon as possible risks
`waiving those depositions given the availability of the witnesses.
`
`
`Regards,
`Edwin
`
`
`Edwin O. Garcia
`Associate
`JONES DAY® - One Firm Worldwide®
`51 Louisiana Avenue, N.W.
`Washington, D.C. 20001
`Office +1.202.879.3695
`(Admitted in Texas; not admitted in District of Columbia; practice limited to cases in federal court and agencies)
`
`
`From: Garcia, Edwin O.
`Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 3:16 PM
`To: Lanier, Greg <tglanier@JonesDay.com>; Gilkey, Jack (SHB) <JGILKEY@shb.com>; Gray, Michael W.
`(SHB) <MGRAY@shb.com>; Google Touchstream JD <Google-Touchstream-JD@jonesday.com>; Michael
`E. Jones <mikejones@potterminton.com>; Shaun Hassett <shaunhassett@potterminton.com>
`Cc: Dykal, Ryan (SHB) <RDYKAL@shb.com>; LaRoque, Sam (SHB) <slaroque@shb.com>; Bergsten, Jordan
`(SHB) <JBERGSTEN@shb.com>; Carlyle, Patrisha L. (SHB) <pcarlyle@shb.com>; Long, Andrew M. (SHB)
`<AMLONG@shb.com>
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`Counsel:
`
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`Again, sorry for having to reschedule today’s call, but some necessary members of our team were tied
`up at a trial. In the meantime, to keep making progress on the various issues, please see below an
`update chart with Google’s responses on deposition scheduling. We would like to discuss any open
`items tomorrow. We will circulate an updated dial-in. We will also send you objections and final
`designations on Touchstream’s 30(b)(6) topics by tomorrow prior to the meet and confer.
`
`
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`Witness
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`Date
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`Visal Misra
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`9/20
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`David Strober
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`9/21
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`Matt Van Der
`Staay
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`9/23
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`Shanna Preve
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`9/23
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`Corey Robins
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`9/26
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`Micah
`Rupersburg
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`9/28
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`Status / Position - Sept. 19, 2022 (10:00 PM)
`Google served a deposition subpoena