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`IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
`FOR THE WESTERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS
`WACO DIVISION
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`TOUCHSTREAM TECHNOLOGIES, INC.,
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`Plaintiff,
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`Civil Case No. 6:21-cv-569-ADA
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`JURY TRIAL DEMANDED
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`GOOGLE LLC,
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`Defendant.
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`DISCOVERY DISPUTE ORDER
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`The Court hereby resolves the following discovery dispute submitted to the Court by email,
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`and heard, at an in-person hearing on November 16, 2022, by United States Magistrate Judge
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`Derek T. Gilliland.
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`Touchstream’s Position:
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`Touchstream hereby moves for an order compelling Google to produce the following
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`information that is highly relevant to the computation of damages, proportional to the needs of the
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`case, reasonably believed to be in Google’s possession, and not unduly burdensome to produce.
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`Touchstream has long requested this information, including in its requests for production and
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`interrogatories, served April 2022; its prior Motion to Compel, granted October 13, 2022; and its
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`prior Motion to Compel, served October 28, 2022, conceded to by Google on November 2.
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`In light of the agreed schedule requiring expert depositions to complete by December 16,
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`Touchstream requests that Google shall use its best efforts to produce the requested information
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`by November 14 or as soon afterward as the Court can hear our motion and as soon as possible in
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`rolling productions thereafter, and shall produce it by November 23.
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`Some of the requested information Google has agreed to produce, following the filing of
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`the Motion to Compel granted on October 13. However, still Google has not produced it. In its
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`email of November 4, Google’s counsel stated that Google is still “investigating” or “searching”
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`and “will produce” some of this long-requested information. With this information, the issue to
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`be decided by the Court is only timing of production.
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`As to other information, Google’s counsel has flatly refused to produce it altogether,
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`including but not limited to Play app revenue from 2,000+ cast-enabled content providers, global
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`usage metrics, and usage metrics for Alphabet apps. However, this information is highly relevant
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`to Touchstream’s calculation of damages.
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`First, Play app revenue from 2,000+ cast-enabled content providers is a substantial figure
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`and will feed directly into damages calculations. Touchstream has long sought this information,
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`including in connection with the October 13 hearing on its October 7 Motion to Compel. 10/7
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`Mot. to Compel (seeking financial information for Google Play); 10/13 Hr’g Tr. 10-13 (parties
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`agreed to prioritize production of revenue for certain apps); 10/14 Dykal Email (“We further note
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`that we maintain our request for financial information for any other video or audio streaming apps
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`in the Google Play Store that are cast-enabled, but request prioritization for the above apps”).
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`Second, as to global usage metrics, Touchstream intends to prove at trial that there is a
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`sufficient nexus between Google’s infringement in the United States and damages associated with
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`global devices. See, e.g., ECF No. 26, Google Mot. to Transfer at 2-3 (“the accused Chromecast
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`technology was initially developed at Google’s headquarters in Mountain View, California, and
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`development has primarily continued in or around Mountain View”); ECF No. 27-1, Golueke
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`Decl. (Google developed Chromecast in California); Cooke Dep. Tr. 154:3-155:21 (Google
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`developed, tested, and performed quality control on Chromecast in California). Global usage
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`metrics are clearly relevant to damages upon such a showing. See ArcherDX, LLC v. Qiagen Scis.,
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`LLC, 2022 WL 4597877, at *13 (D. Del. Sept. 30, 2022) (affirming verdict for foreign damages
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`based on evidence that “domestic infringement (use of the accused products) was a substantial
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`cause of the sale of products abroad,” stating, “[i]n CMU, the Federal Circuit noted that the
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`products ‘practice[ ] the method in its normal intended use’ and concluded that causation to
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`domestic infringing uses was established given the design, simulation, and testing of the chips in
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`California involved infringing uses and caused the worldwide sales”), citing Carnegie Mellon
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`Univ. v. Marvell Tech. Grp., Ltd., 807 F.3d 1283, 1306-07 (Fed. Cir. 2015) (“the inquiry is whether
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`any of the § 271(a)-listed activities with respect to that product occur domestically”); W.H. Wall
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`Fam. Holdings LLLP v. CeloNova Biosciences, Inc., 2020 WL 1644003, at *3 & n.2 (W.D. Tex.
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`Apr. 2, 2020) (granting motion to compel foreign sales activity, stating, “Courts have found that
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`foreign damages may be compensable for domestic infringement under § 271(a)”); Plastronics
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`Socket Partners, Ltd. v. Dong Weon Hwang, 2019 WL 4392525, at *5 (E.D. Tex. June 11, 2019)
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`(denying summary judgment, stating, “a genuine dispute of fact exists as to whether [plaintiff]
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`suffered damages abroad as a result of Defendants’ domestic acts of infringement . . . [Plaintiff]
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`has provided evidence to create a reasonable inference that Defendants committed domestic acts
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`of infringement, such as importation, that ultimately led to damages via sales abroad”);
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`WesternGeco LLC v. ION Geophysical Corp., 138 S. Ct. 2129, 2139 (2018) (suggesting that
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`foreign damages are compensable for domestic infringement under § 271(a)).
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`Third, as to the Alphabet app metrics, they are clearly related to Touchstream’s damages.
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`Even Google’s counsel suggested during a meet and confer on October 28, 2022, that, for purposes
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`of computing damages, Touchstream should be able to use usage “metrics” such as those already
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`produced partially by Google and identified in no. 2 below, to “stitch together” Chromecast-
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`apportioned versions of reports on Google’s revenues.
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`These deficiencies in the production of damages-related information are long overdue.
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`Requested Relief:
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`Accordingly, Touchstream respectfully requests the Court to compel Google to use its best
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`efforts to produce the following information by November 14 or as soon afterward as the Court
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`can hear our motion and as soon as possible in rolling productions thereafter, and to produce it by
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`November 23:
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`1. All Google Play app revenues received from cast-enabled content providers;
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`2. US and global usage metrics sufficient to apportion cast versus non-cast usage on Alphabet
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`apps and Google multi-use devices;
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`3. All of Google’s Chromecast-related contracts with content providers that contain referral
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`fee or other bounty provisions;
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`4. All Chromecast-related referral and other bounty payments received by Google; and
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`5. Supplements to Google’s answers to interrogatories 7, 8, 9, and 15. If Google chooses to
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`cite documents pursuant to Rule 33(d), then it shall provide sufficient explanation to
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`answer the interrogatories, such as whether the documents show US versus global
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`information, are Chromecast-specific, or account for costs of revenues.
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`Google’s Position:
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`This motion arises from Touchstream’s untimely requests for data relating to products
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`belatedly and improperly added to this case. The materials sought in Touchstream’s five
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`enumerated requests fall into three basic categories: (a) materials Google does not maintain in the
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`ordinary course; (b) materials Google has already produced or told Touchstream it will produce,
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`if they exist; and (c) materials belatedly requested with no legal relevance to this case, production
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`of which would be unduly burdensome and not proportional to the needs of the case.
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`Google has already produced extensive financial and metrics information. To date Google
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`has endeavored to investigate and provide information responsive to Touchstream’s unending and
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`ever expanding requests (tens of millions of rows of metrics data, for just one example). But
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`discovery is closed and the requests must end if the case is ever to proceed to resolution on its
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`alleged merits on the current schedule.
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`Google does not intend to burden the Court with a response to Touchstream’s inaccurate
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`presentation of the back and forth on these requests, and instead turns now to Touchstream
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`enumerated requests:
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`Request 1 (Google Play revenues): Google had produced documents in compliance with
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`the Court’s direction at the October 13 hearing. When Google explained that there are “literally
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`thousands of apps on Google Play”, Touchstream agreed to provide a “specific list” of the “main
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`[applications]” and, in response to the Court’s question about whether that resolved the issues,
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`expressly stated that “Yes. That works”. Dkt. #99 at 10-13. Touchstream provided the list and
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`Google produced the revenue. Now, apparently relying on counsel’s attempt to take back the
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`representation made to the Court and agreement reached at the previous hearing, Touchstream is
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`requesting the data for thousands of applications that were not on that list, data that it previously
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`told the Court it would forgo seeking. Touchstream makes a conclusory allegation that such
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`revenue is “highly relevant” to damages but fails to explain why. The requested revenue is not
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`relevant because it reflects fees for use of the Google Play App store platform generally, so there
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`is simply no connection between that revenue and casting, nor is there any reason why non-US
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`revenue (if Touchstream is seeking that) is relevant. Moreover, the burden associated with
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`production of this information is not proportional to the needs of the case. Discovery is closed and
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`this belated, overly burdensome request should be denied.
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`Request 2 (metrics): Google produced extensive metrics associated with casting in the
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`United States as they are kept in the ordinary course, including for applications and devices.
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`Touchstream now requests for the same sort of metrics but for non-casting usage of cast-enabled
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`applications and devices. But that request misapprehends the data tracked by the cast team—just
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`because the Cast team tracks a device’s casting usage does not mean that it tracks other uses.
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`Google’s corporate designee confirmed that the Cast team does not track non-casting usage.
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`Google informed Touchstream that the broad new request for total usage involves numerous
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`distinct teams at Google (i.e. not the Chromecast team), and that it would take time to investigate
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`what responsive data exists, if any. Google is investigating if total U.S. watch time data exists for
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`certain YouTube apps and Google TV. Additionally, Touchstream seeks global metrics data,
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`which is irrelevant to the damages it may seek based on the method claims asserted in this case.
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`See Meyer Intellectual Properties Ltd. v. Bodum, Inc., 690 F.3d 1354, 1371 (Fed. Cir. 2012)
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`(infringement of a method requires performance of each step within the United States).
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`Infringement in the US is what matters, and Touchstream has the relevant data. Bel Power
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`Solutions v. Monolithic Power Systems, 6-21-CV-00655-ADA, Dkt. 63 (W.D. Tex. 2022) (denying
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`request for global data and foreign sales). Touchstream’s conclusory assertion that global metrics
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`are “clearly relevant” does not make it so. Touchstream has offered no justification for why global
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`metrics are relevant to its claims of infringement or damages, and the request for worldwide
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`metrics from any app or device is overly broad, belated, and unduly burdensome. The U.S. metrics
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`data already produced is composed of tens of millions of rows of data, and the burden associated
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`with the collection and production of global metrics data is not proportional to the needs of the
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`case.
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`Request 3 (referral contracts): By Friday, November 11, Google will have completed (it
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`has already produced many) its production of contracts between Google LLC and content
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`providers that contain referral provisions that have been located after a reasonable search; that is
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`the first date that those agreements could be produced due to their notice provisions.
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`Request 4 (referral fees): Google has produced all U.S. revenue associated with referral
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`fees ascertainable from the information maintained in the ordinary course dating back to 2013.
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`Request 5 (interrogatory responses): Google has already supplemented its responses to
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`interrogatories Nos. 7, 8, and 9 and has agreed that if further documents are produced, it will further
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`supplement its responses. Regarding interrogatory No. 15, Touchstream has never explained what
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`it contends is deficient, particularly in view of the documents cited under Rule 33(d) and the
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`witnesses (including 30b6 designees) who were made available for relevant testimony.
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`Requested Relief:
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`Touchstream’s motion to compel is denied.
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`Resolution
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`At set forth on the record at the November 16, 2022 hearing, Touchstream’s motion is
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`granted in part and denied in part, as follows: Google shall produce by November 30, 2022, and
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`shall use best efforts to produce as soon as possible before November 30, 2022: (a) Play app
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`revenues from 20 cast-enabled content providers to be identified by Touchstream by November
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`17, 2022 at 5:00 PM; (b) to the extent kept in the ordinary course of business, US usage metrics
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`concerning cast versus non-cast usage on Google multi-use devices to be identified by
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`Touchstream by November 17, 2022 at 5:00 PM; and (c) to the extent kept in the ordinary course
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`of business, US usage metrics concerning cast versus non-cast usage on Alphabet apps to be
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`identified by Touchstream by November 17, 2022 at 5:00 PM, and limited to Alphabet apps
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`already identified in Google’s produced cast usage spreadsheets. In addition, Google shall provide
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`any supplemental interrogatory answers by December 1, 2022. Touchstream’s remaining requests
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`for relief are denied.
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`SIGNED this 29th day of November, 2022.
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`DEREK T. GILLILAND
` UNITED STATES MAGISTRATE JUDGE
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