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`UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
`WESTERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS
`AUSTIN DIVISION
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`BANDSPEED, LLC, )
`Plaintiff, )
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`vs. ) AU:20-CV-00765
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`REALTEK SEMICONDUCTOR )
`CORPORATION, ) Austin, Texas
`Defendant. ) April 11, 2023
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`TRANSCRIPT OF STATUS CONFERENCE
`BEFORE THE HONORABLE DAVID A. EZRA
`SENIOR UNITED STATES DISTRICT JUDGE
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`APPEARANCES:
`FOR THE PLAINTIFF:
` Adam G. Price, Esquire
` Christopher V. Goodpastor, Esquire
` DiNovo Price, LLP
` 7000 North MoPac Expressway
` Suite 350
` Austin, Texas 78731
` (512)539-2626; aprice@dinovoprice.com
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`FOR THE DEFENDANT:
` G. Blake Thompson, Esquire
` Mann, Tindel, Thompson
` 112 E. Line Street, Suite 304
` Tyler, Texas 75702
` (903)657-6003; blake@themannfirm.com
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` Jeffrey Lance Johnson, Esquire
` Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe, LLP
` 609 Main, 40th Floor
` Houston, Texas 77002
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`COURT REPORTER:
`Angela M. Hailey, CSR, CRR, RPR, RMR
`Official Court Reporter, U.S.D.C.
`262 West Nueva Street
`San Antonio, Texas 78207
`Phone(210)244-5048
`angela_hailey@txwd.uscourts.gov
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`Proceedings reported by stenotype, transcript produced by
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`(Tuesday, April 11, 2023, 9:03 a.m.)
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`COURT SECURITY OFFICER: All rise.
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`THE COURT: Please be seated.
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`COURTROOM DEPUTY CLERK: Austin 20-CV-00765,
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`Bandspeed, LLC versus Realtek Semiconductor Corporation.
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`THE COURT: Good morning. Can we have appearances
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`MR. PRICE: Good morning, Judge. My name is Adam
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`Price for plaintiff, Bandspeed, and I'm here with my colleague
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`Chris Goodpastor.
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`MR. GOODPASTOR: Good morning, Your Honor.
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`THE COURT: Good morning.
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`MR. THOMPSON: Good morning, Your Honor. Blake
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`Thompson here for Realtek, and also with me is Jeffrey Johnson.
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`We're ready to proceed.
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`THE COURT: Okay. We're here for a status conference
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`to see exactly where we are in this case. Now, I had dinner
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`last night with Judge Yeakel, who by the way is in unusually
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`fine form getting ready to retire, and to say there wasn't a
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`tinge of jealousy there would be the understatement, I think.
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`But nonetheless, he indicated that he understood there would be
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`some or some progress had been made toward resolving this case
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`by way of settlement. Am I right, wrong or was he wrong?
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`MR. PRICE: I think I can address that. Adam Price
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`for plaintiff, Bandspeed. With respect to this case, we have
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`had discussions. I think we're optimistic that we can get
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`something done. And in talking with counsel in the hall, our
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`thought is if we push Markman out a little bit, the actual
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`hearing, that will give us some time to maybe get this done and
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`also would accommodate schedules. In terms of Bandspeed as a
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`whole, there are several Bandspeed cases and those are in
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`different stages discussions.
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`THE COURT: I only had this one, right?
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`MR. PRICE: That's correct, Your Honor.
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`COURTROOM DEPUTY CLERK: Yes, Judge.
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`THE COURT: Who's got the other ones?
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`MR. PRICE: Judge Yeakel currently has them.
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`COURTROOM DEPUTY CLERK: He hasn't transferred them
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`yet. There's a few.
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`THE COURT: I think you can count on them probably
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`landing here. I'm going to be picking up 200 to 250 of his
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`cases, I think.
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`MR. THOMPSON: We're in agreement with plaintiff's
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`maybe August or so and it would give us some time, number one,
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`just for scheduling, but also give us some time to explore
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`possible resolution as well.
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`THE COURT: You know, my experience -- thank you,
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`counsel. My experience -- well, there's two ways to look at
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`this. You have the old Sam Sparks way to look at it. And
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`Sam's view is that you need a hot iron on people's nether
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`regions to get things done. Judge Yeakel and I are more of the
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`try to get it settled, that they actually will do that and not
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`take it and put it on the shelf and go to something else, which
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`unfortunately does happen. And so I think that the truth
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`probably lies somewhere between Sam Sparks and David Ezra and
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`Lee Yeakel, I don't know. But I am inclined to take you
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`gentlemen at your word that you'll, you know, try to work this
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`Now, are these other -- I don't know anything about
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`these other cases. Are they against the same parties?
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`MR. PRICE: No, Your Honor. Same patents where
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`there's overlap of patents, but they are against different
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`THE COURT: Different parties, okay.
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`MR. PRICE: The patents generally relate to blue
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`tooth, so fairly widespread use of the technology.
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`THE COURT: Sure, of course. All right, so what dates
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`do you want? Don't get too crazy now.
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`MR. THOMPSON: I think from our side, Your Honor,
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`anything August 1st and beyond.
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`THE COURT: We're talking about for the Markman
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`hearing now.
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`MR. THOMPSON: That's correct.
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`MR. PRICE: That would work for us, Your Honor.
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`THE COURT: Let's see, who knows what will work for
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`COURTROOM DEPUTY CLERK: Do we know how long it will
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`THE COURT: I would imagine it wouldn't take more than
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`MR. PRICE: If I might ask, Your Honor, we would be
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`inclined to present our expert by declaration and not live. If
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`we were to do a non-live witness hearing, I think this could be
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`THE COURT: All right.
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`MR. PRICE: There have been many Bandspeed cases, so
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`there's a lot of history there and a lot of terms have already
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`THE COURT: Well, there hasn't been a lot of Bandspeed
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`cases in front of me, so I have to start from ground zero.
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`Remember that. I used to represent banks and I would come
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`cases, so we all knew what all the facts were. Of course, the
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`judge was a very good judge, he just didn't know the history of
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`it. So we're brabbling back and forth about this, that and the
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`other thing and he says, "Wait a minute, wait a minute,
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`counsel, I wasn't there." You know.
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`the judge -- it's not as big a problem when you have a jury,
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`MR. PRICE: We will do that, Your Honor.
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`MR. THOMPSON: Your Honor, do you like in-person
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`tutorial like Judge Yeakel? How do you handle your Markman.
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`THE COURT: Yes, I do it exactly like Judge Yeakel
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`the same time. I got appointed by President Reagan. He was a
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`MR. THOMPSON: Well, I think knowing that, we would
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`THE COURT: We'll set a day aside. The reason I want
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`to be a tsunami of cases coming down. I'm going to get a lot
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`from Judge Yeakel. I'm going -- I think a couple hundred at
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`least, may be more, I'm going to get some of Judge Pitman's
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`cases also. That's perfectly fine. I'm perfectly capable of
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`doing that, I've always had a heavy docket. They used to send
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`your case. So that's why we're trying to move these things
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`COURTROOM DEPUTY CLERK: You do. August 9th.
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`THE COURT: How about August 9th?
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`MR. PRICE: Fine for the plaintiff, Your Honor.
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`(Discussion off the record with Courtroom Deputy
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`THE COURT: She was just trying to clarify whether I
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`MR. THOMPSON: August 9th will be fine for us as well.
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`THE COURT: And then we can move into the courtroom.
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`We'll do it all in one day.
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`MR. PRICE: If it's more efficient for Your Honor, we
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`THE COURT: I don't care. Whichever you wish to do.
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`You know, I actually like to ask questions, so maybe we ought
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`MR. PRICE: That's fine.
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`THE COURT: How are your teaching skills?
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`MR. PRICE: It won't be me, Your Honor, it will be my
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`MR. THOMPSON: Depends on the topic.
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`THE COURT: Well, I've been teaching law school for 38
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`MR. PRICE: Will the tutorial be off the record and
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`THE COURT: Yeah, I don't think Judge Yeakel does it
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`MR. PRICE: No, he doesn't record them.
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`THE COURT: Everything I've ever said, I think, in a
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`MR. THOMPSON: We're fine either way. Whatever your
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`THE COURT: All right. We won't put that on the
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`record. Okay, August 9th. Is there anything else, counsel,
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`MR. PRICE: Nothing from Bandspeed, Your Honor.
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`MR. THOMPSON: Nothing from Realtek, Your Honor.
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`THE COURT: Okay. Very good. Thank you very much.
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`MR. PRICE: Thank you, Your Honor.
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`MR. THOMPSON: May we be excused?
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`THE COURT: Thanks very much, counsel. Have a good
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`Markman? Have they all been filed already?
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`MR. PRICE: We're fully briefed, Your Honor.
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`MR. PRICE: Your Honor, we did give hard copies to
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`THE COURT: We got them. We work pretty close
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