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`Case 5:19-cv-00036—RWS Document 659-2 Filed 03/14/21 Page 1 of 5 PageID #: 33205
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`·1· · · · · · · · · · · · KENJI NAKAMURA
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`·2· · · ·A· · Oh, and Shimizu-san.
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`·3· · · ·Q· · When did they become involved -- first
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`·4· involved with Apple?
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`·5· · · ·A· · Apple meeting?
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`·6· · · ·Q· · Yes.
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`·7· · · ·A· · At -- sometime in 2013, toward the end. I
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`·8· don't remember specific date, but the first contact was
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`·9· in June of 2013.· And after that -- after July, Maxell
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`10· team started the meeting in -- happened sometime later
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`11· in 2013.
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`12· · · ·Q· · So can you go back to Exhibit 71 again?
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`13· That's a deposition topic.
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`14· · · ·A· · Yes.
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`15· · · ·Q· · Turn to Page 24.
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`16· · · ·A· · 24?· Yes.
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`17· · · ·Q· · Can you look at Topic No. 57?
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`18· · · ·A· · Yes.
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`19· · · ·Q· · So this is one of your -- the topics you're
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`20· testifying about.
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`21· · · ·A· · Yes.
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`22· · · ·Q· · You understand that, right?
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`23· · · ·A· · Yes.
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`24· · · ·Q· · Communication with between Apple and Maxell?
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`25· · · ·A· · Yes.
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`·1· · · · · · · · · · · · KENJI NAKAMURA
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`·2· · · · · · · · ·MR. LEVY:· Subject to our responses and
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`·3· objections and the meet and confer on Wednesday.
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`·4· · · · · · · · ·MR. ZHOU:· Understood.
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`·5· · · ·Q· · (BY MR. ZHOU)· My understanding is that part
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`·6· of the pre-sue communication occurred between only
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`·7· Hitachi and Apple, and then Maxell came in at some point
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`·8· later and joined the communication; is that right?
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`·9· · · · · · · · ·MR. LEVY:· Objection, form.
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`10· · · ·A· · Yes.· So the first contact was in June 2013 --
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`11· June 25th, maybe.· And later in 2013, yes, Maxell team
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`12· started the meetings with Apple.
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`13· · · ·Q· ·(BY MR. ZHOU) And then you became involved
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`14· around June of 2014?
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`15· · · ·A· · Yes.
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`16· · · ·Q· · So what portion of this timeline are you going
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`17· to testify about today?
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`18· · · · · · · · ·MR. LEVY:· Objection, form.
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`19· · · ·A· · You mean between -- before I became --
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`20· attended the meeting, you mean?
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`21· · · ·Q· · You're testifying as a representative of
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`22· Maxell.
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`23· · · ·A· · Uh-huh.
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`24· · · ·Q· · So I just want to know, are you're going to
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`25· testify all the way back to June 2013, or are you going
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`Case 5:19-cv-00036-RWS Document 659-2 Filed 03/14/21 Page 4 of 5 PageID #: 33208
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`·1· · · · · · · · · · · · KENJI NAKAMURA
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`·2· to testify to a particular time cutoff?
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`·3· · · ·A· · Oh.
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`·4· · · · · · · · ·MR. LEVY:· Objection, form.
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`·5· · · ·A· · Up to the June 2013.
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`·6· · · ·Q· ·(BY MR. ZHOU) And even though, in June 2013,
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`·7· Maxell was not yet involved in negotiating with Apple,
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`·8· right?
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`·9· · · · · · · · ·MR. LEVY:· Objection, form.
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`10· · · ·A· · Yes.
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`11· · · ·Q· · (BY MR. ZHOU)· I think you mentioned earlier
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`12· as well, in this case, Maxell contends that Apple was
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`13· notified of certain patents in June of 2013; is that
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`14· right?
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`15· · · ·A· · Yes.
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`16· · · ·Q· · And I believe four -- Maxell's position is
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`17· that four patents were -- were identified to Apple in
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`18· June of 2013; is that right?
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`19· · · ·A· · Yes.
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`20· · · ·Q· · Does Maxell contend that Apple received notice
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`21· of infringement for any of the patents in this case
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`22· before June of 2013?
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`23· · · ·A· · Before?· No.
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`24· · · ·Q· · So June 2013 is -- strike that.
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`25· · · · · · · · ·What happened in June of 2013?
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`·1· · · · · · · · · · · · KENJI NAKAMURA
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`·2· · · · · · · · ·MR. LEVY:· Objection, form.
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`·3· · · ·Q· ·(BY MR. ZHOU) Let me strike that.· That's a bad
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`·4· question.
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`·5· · · · · · · · ·MR. LEVY:· Yeah.
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`·6· · · ·Q· ·(BY MR. ZHOU) What -- what do you contend to be
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`·7· the event that caused Apple to receive notice of some of
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`·8· the asserted patents in June of 2013?
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`·9· · · ·A· · So Matsuo-san visited Apple in Cupertino and
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`10· handed out the letter showing the -- the patents.
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`11· · · ·Q· · That occurred around June 25th, 2013, right?
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`12· · · ·A· · 25th, I believe, yes.
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`13· · · ·Q· · There was an in-person meeting --
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`14· · · ·A· · Yes.
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`15· · · ·Q· · -- between Matsuo-san --
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`16· · · ·A· · And Patrick Murphy.
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`17· · · ·Q· · Other than Mr. Matsuo and Mr. Murphy, did
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`18· anybody else attend the meeting?
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`19· · · ·A· · Possibly, Takae-san, but I -- I don't remember
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`20· that well.
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`21· · · ·Q· · Where did this meeting take place?
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`22· · · ·A· · Cupertino.
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`23· · · ·Q· · Where in Cupertino?
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`24· · · ·A· · Oh, in Apple office.
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`25· · · ·Q· · Apple's office.
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