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`Case 5:19-cv-00036-RWS Document 438-2 Filed 07/24/20 Page 2 of 8 PageID #: 24170
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`In The Matter Of:
`Maxell v.
`Apple Inc.
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`Joseph A. Paradiso, Ph.D.
`October 18, 2019
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` 4 IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
` FOR THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS
` 5 TEXARKANA DIVISION
` Case No. 5:19-cv-00036-RWS
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` MAXELL, LTD.
` 8 Plaintiff
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` 9 APPLE INC.
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`15 VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF JOSEPH A. PARADISO, Ph.D.
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`Joseph A. Paradiso, Ph.D. - October 18, 2019
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`Joseph A. Paradiso, Ph.D. - October 18, 2019
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`Joseph A. Paradiso, Ph.D. - October 18, 2019
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