Case 2:17-cv-00513-JRG Document 280-4 Filed 01/11/19 Page 1 of 5 PageID #: 18716
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`Case 2:17-cv-00513-JRG Document 280-4 Filed 01/11/19 Page 2 of 5 PageID #: 18717
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`DR. NEIL G. SIEGEL - 11/14/2018DR. NEIL G. SIEGEL - 11/14/2018
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`·1· · · · · · · ·UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
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`·2· · · · · · · CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
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`·4· ·AGIS SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT LLC,· · )
`· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·) Civil Action No.
`·5· · · · · · · · · · ·Plaintiff,· · · ) 2:17-cv-513-JRG
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`·6· · · · · · · vs.· · · · · · · · · · ) Civil Action No.
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`14· · · · · · ·DEPOSITION OF DR. NEIL G. SIEGEL
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`15· · · · · · · · · · · · ·TAKEN ON
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`16· · · · · · · ·WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 14, 2018
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`24· ·Reported by:· PHILIP D. NORRIS
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`25· · · · · · · · ·CSR NO. 4980
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`DR. NEIL G. SIEGEL - 11/14/2018DR. NEIL G. SIEGEL - 11/14/2018
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`Page 102
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`·1· ·BY MR. RUBINO:
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`·2· · · · Q.· And you used the word "dynamic" throughout
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`·3· ·your report; right?
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`·4· · · · A.· I did, correct.
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`·5· · · · Q.· So the server could change frequently;
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`·6· ·right?
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`·7· · · · A.· Let me try and say it a little more
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`·8· ·precisely.· The FBCB2 units that are serving the
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`·9· ·role of -- acting in the role of a server will
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`10· ·change over time.
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`11· · · · Q.· And so it's possible that an FBCB2 unit
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`12· ·could send out a message saying they want another
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`13· ·map like a picture behind a hill to a server; right?
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`14· · · · A.· (Witness nods head.)
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`15· · · · Q.· And then when they ultimately get the
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`16· ·picture, the picture doesn't necessarily have to
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`17· ·come through that same server; right?
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`18· · · · · · MS. BI:· Objection to form.
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`19· · · · · · THE WITNESS:· The system will accommodate
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`20· ·the battlefield dynamic.· So if it's this
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`21· ·gentleman's unit that made the original request and
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`22· ·it's this lady's unit that is acting as the server
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`23· ·at the time of the request, it goes off, the picture
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`24· ·gets taken, but it might be because of the dynamics
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`25· ·of the battlefield that this lady unit is no longer
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`DR. NEIL G. SIEGEL - 11/14/2018DR. NEIL G. SIEGEL - 11/14/2018
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`Page 103
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`·1· ·the server, it's this other lady's unit is acting as
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`·2· ·the unit for this gentleman, but it would find its
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`·3· ·way back.
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`·4· ·BY MR. RUBINO:
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`·5· · · · Q.· But it doesn't have to be the same server
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`·6· ·that it actually passes through; right?
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`·7· · · · A.· It doesn't have to be the same server.
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`·8· · · · Q.· So with regard to this picture you've shown
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`·9· ·after paragraph 103 in your report --
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`10· · · · A.· Uh-huh, I see it, at the top of page 50.
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`11· · · · Q.· -- do you have any way to know one way or
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`12· ·the other whether that request for the image and the
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`13· ·image itself being transmitted back passed through
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`14· ·that same server, passed through a single server?
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`15· · · · · · MS. BI:· Objection to form.
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`16· · · · · · THE WITNESS:· No, the FBCB2 user probably
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`17· ·would not have any way of knowing that.
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`19· · · · Q.· And do you know that?· Do you have any
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`20· ·idea?
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`21· · · · A.· Me technically?· Yes, I mean, there's
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`22· ·technical information that would -- that would be
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`23· ·available to an expert that would tell us the state
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`24· ·of the system at any time and at every time in the
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`25· ·past, and we would know which FBCB2 -- we would know
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`DR. NEIL G. SIEGEL - 11/14/2018DR. NEIL G. SIEGEL - 11/14/2018
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`·1· · · · · · THE WITNESS:· I would say it differently.
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`·2· ·The purp -- the purpose of this capability we're
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`·3· ·discussing was to allow for some reasonable
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`·4· ·continuity of the server function in the crazy and
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`·5· ·difficult environment of an actual combat
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`·6· ·battlefield.
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`·7· ·BY MR. RUBINO:
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`·8· · · · Q.· Which would mean that you'd want multiple
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`·9· ·devices to be able to act in the role of a server;
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`10· ·right?
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`11· · · · A.· That is -- that was the design decision we
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`12· ·came to.· That is, having the opportunity of -- of
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`13· ·additional units being elected to replace a server
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`14· ·that had gone away for whatever reason.· That was
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`15· ·the way that we elected to get continuity on the
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`16· ·battlefield.· It was a design decision.
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`17· · · · Q.· And again, as part of that election and
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`18· ·discovery process, IP addresses are exchanged;
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`19· ·correct?
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`20· · · · · · MS. BI:· Objection to form.
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`21· · · · · · THE WITNESS:· The statement is way too
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`22· ·broad and misleading.· The information about the --
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`23· · · · · · MR. RUBINO:· If it's misleading, then I'll
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`24· ·withdraw the question.
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`25· · · · · · THE WITNESS:· Okay.
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