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`ESTTA143237
`ESTTA Tracking number:
`05/30/2007
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`Filing date:
`IN THE UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
`BEFORE THE TRADEMARK TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
`92043340
`Defendant
`SPIRITS INTERNATIONAL N.V.
`SPIRITS INTERNATIONAL N.V.
`700 ANDERSON HILL ROAD
`PURCHASE, NY 10577
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`Lisa Pearson
`Kilpatrick Stockton LLP
`31 West 52nd Street, 14th Floor
`NEW YORK, NY 10019
`UNITED STATES
`lpearson@kilpatrickstockton.com, agarcia@kilpatrickstockton.com
`Testimony For Defendant
`Lisa Pearson
`lpearson@kilpatrickstockton.com, agarcia@kilpatrickstockton.com
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`05/30/2007
`AV Imports-v-Spirits International-Trial Testimony of Mikhail Tsyplakov-
`3-30-07.pdf ( 2 pages )(44592 bytes )
`AV Imports-v-Spirits International-Mikhail Tsyplakov-Deposition Transcript-
`3-30-07 .pdf ( 181 pages )(8272268 bytes )
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`ESTTA143237
`ESTTA Tracking number:
`05/30/2007
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`Filing date:
`IN THE UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
`BEFORE THE TRADEMARK TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
`92043340
`Defendant
`SPIRITS INTERNATIONAL N.V.
`SPIRITS INTERNATIONAL N.V.
`700 ANDERSON HILL ROAD
`PURCHASE, NY 10577
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`Lisa Pearson
`Kilpatrick Stockton LLP
`31 West 52nd Street, 14th Floor
`NEW YORK, NY 10019
`UNITED STATES
`lpearson@kilpatrickstockton.com, agarcia@kilpatrickstockton.com
`Testimony For Defendant
`Lisa Pearson
`lpearson@kilpatrickstockton.com, agarcia@kilpatrickstockton.com
`/s/
`05/30/2007
`AV Imports-v-Spirits International-Trial Testimony of Mikhail Tsyplakov-
`3-30-07.pdf ( 2 pages )(44592 bytes )
`AV Imports-v-Spirits International-Mikhail Tsyplakov-Deposition Transcript-
`3-30-07 .pdf ( 181 pages )(8272268 bytes )
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`EN T§§.E UNETE13 STA'.E7ES PATENT ANE TRABEMARK GFFECE
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`BEFQRE THE TRADEMARK TRIAL ANB APPEAL BOARB
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`A.V. imports, Eire.
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`Petitiener,
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`Spirits International, N.\!.,
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`Respmrderir and Registrant.
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`Caneeiiatiorr No.2 92043340
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`Registration N99 1,487,042
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`Mark: RUSSKAYA
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`RES?ONBEN'E"S SUBMESSEQN GF TREAL TESTEMGNY OF
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`MEKHAEL TSYPLAKGV
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`Respondent and Registrant Spirits irrterrratiorrai, N.V., herby iodges the eriginai triai
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`testimeriy of Mikhail Tsypiakov taken March 3G, 20837 and Tsypiaiwv Exhibits 1-3 in the
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`Dated: New York, New York
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`May 30, 2697
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`Respeetfuiiy submitted:
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`By: Lisa Pearson
`KILPATRECK STGCKTGN LLP
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`31 West 52nd Street, 14th Fioer
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`New York, New York EDGE9
`Telephone: (2i2} 775-8700
`Atterneys for Respondent
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`CERTEFECATE QF SEERVECE
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`The undersigned, hereby certifies that he served, by first eiass mail, postage. ‘fuily
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`prepaid, a copy of the foregoing Responderifs Submission of Triai Testimony upon:
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`Andrew C. Aitken, Esq.
`Janet F. Satterihwaite, Esq.
`Venabie LLP
`575 7*“ Street, NW.
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`This 30”’ day ofI\/lay, 2607.
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`DEPOSITION UFO? WRITTEN QUESTIONS
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`On Friday, 30th March 2007
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`Commencing at 8.50 am
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`Taken at:
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`MIKHAIL TSYPLAKOV
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`having duly affirmed
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`was questioned and did testify as follows
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`BY THE COURT REPORTER:
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`QUESTIONED:
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`Please state your full name and
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`My full name is Mikhail
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`Niokolayevicx Tsypiakov, and my business address
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`Please identify your current
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`My current employer is the Russian
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`company called SP1 IPCTS.
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`T is is the
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`all entities affili
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`‘es. Spirits Internationa
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`company called ~~ by the Swiss
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`SPI Group SA, while the latter
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`I mean SPI Group SA,
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`the Company which employs me.
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`SPI Group SA holds
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`IPPV.
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`company, SP1 Group SA,
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`the Swiss company, which
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`International NV and SPI
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`my current employer.
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`I have already replied to this
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`including vodka.
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`including your employer, position and a
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`the ownership of certain trademarks belonging to
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`SP1 Group was challenged.
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`this company is located in some other region,
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`Mr Skurikhin.
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`around the world,
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`trademarks;
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`Q.
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`Generally
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`personal knowledge about
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`MOSKOVSKAYA and other trademarks in relation to
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`Russien Vodka?
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`A.
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`Yes.
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`If so, please describe in detail
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`history.
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`review of company documents, and also I
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`Federation concerning the ownership of the Russian
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`vodka trademarks so ~~ and that
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`refer collectively to the trademarks; RUSSKAYA,
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`STOLICHNAYA, MOSKOVSKAYA and other tra
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`Q,
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`that bears the title "Declaration of Andrey V
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`Can you identify the document marked
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`what assistance did you
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`contained in that declaration as well.
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`..e description
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`Yes,
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`Exhibit
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`document marked as Tsyplakov
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`RUSSKAYA, STOLICHNAYA and MOSKOVSKAYA is a serious
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`challenge in respect of SPI Group and in respect
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`To the best of your knowledge, do
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`the documents marked as Exhibits A through M to
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`Tsyplakov Exhibit
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`of Tsyplakov Exhibit 1?
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`title "Memorandum uecisioh a d
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`document identification numbers SFZG
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`'f38. Can you identify the document
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`Exhibit 2?
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`This is the judgment rendered by
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`tates District Court Southern District
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`New York in the case initiated by the Soviet
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`State Enterprise Sojuzpiodoimport,
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`PI Group,
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`the distributor
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`To summarise the claim of
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`Enterprise Sojuzplodoimport it can state that
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`the —— of certain trademarks in the United
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`Those trademarks are
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`>re similar to STOLICHNAYA marks,
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`trademarks in relation to vodka and spirits.
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`Please read pages 1
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`to yourself and tell me when
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`you are finished reading those pages
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`I have finished reading that.
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`Do you have personal knowledge
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`the facts that are stated on pages l
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`Yes.
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`To the best of your own personal
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`were the facts stated on pages l
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`Yes.
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`Please describe generally how SP1
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`Group came to own the RUSSKAYA trademarks in tie
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`rademark RUSSKAYA was
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`so the application for the trademark,
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`the registration
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`trademark was filed in
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`The original
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`trademark’s owner was
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`the Soviet State Enterprise with the name
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`Sojuzpiodoimport. It is also abbreviated as VVO
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`piodoimport
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`in various core document
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`worldwide.
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`In the beginning of
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`the 19903 VVO
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`Sojuzplodoimport was
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`transformed into the private
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`companv.
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`That means that
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`the state company
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`Sojuzplodimport was
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`transformed into the ’rivate
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`company,
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`that
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`same name Sojuzplodoimport, but with the
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`abbreviation before this name.
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`Now that
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`after the transformation of
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`VAC Sojuzxiodoimport.
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`The transformation process ended in
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`January 1992.
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`Then in September 1992 VAC
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`oiuzpiodimport as the successor to the original
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`owner of the trademark RUSSKAYA in the United
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`States VVO Sojuzpiodoimport assigned the trademark
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`to PepsiCo.
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`In May 2 O‘ Pepsico assigned the
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`trademark RUSSKAYA back to Spirits
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`NV, and Spirits International NV is the company
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`affiliated with SP1 Group.
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`It acquires reversionary interest,
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`or reversionary right for the trademark from the
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`with the name Sojuzplodimport
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`r "o" in the middle.
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`That
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`Russian joint stock company with abbreviation ZAO
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`Sojuzplodimport.
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`in turn
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`t"ademark from VAO Sojuzplodimport.
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`So due to the chain of
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`transactions the current owner of RUSSKAYA
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`trademark,
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`the company Spirits _nternational NV
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`has acquired the title to this trademark.
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`Generally speakin-, who has
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`commenced the legal challenges to S?l Group’s
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`ownership of
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`the Vodka Trademarks?
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`Generally speaking,
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`those
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`chal‘enges were commenced by the Russian
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`riries, authorities of
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`the Russian
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`Federation, which authorised the state enterprise
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`of the Russian Federation with the name
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`Sojuzplodoimport, another Sojuzplodoimport,
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`abbreviated FKP,
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`Russian Federation in order to recover the
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`trademark rights to the ~« the rights to the
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`famous Vodka Trademarks which allegedly belong to
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`the Russian Federation.
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`the trademark,
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`It is the same company.
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`FKP is the
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`FKP is the abbreviation of
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`So FKP Sojuzplodoimport and
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`is the same entity.
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`What are some of the countries in
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`“t those countries.
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`Th
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`United States of America, Australi
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`the Netherlands, France,
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`Armenia, Chile, Romania, Hungary,
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`Republic, Serbia, Czech Republic, Venezuela,
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`Jordan, Thailand, Uruguay,
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`Poland, and some other
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`I ’ist only some of
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`On page 5 of Tsyplakov Exhibit 1,
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`is a reference in Paragraph 27 to
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`before the European Court of Human
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`current status of
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`those proceedings?
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`What
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`In May
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`European Court of
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`Human Rights has declared the
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`plication or
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`Plodovaya Kompania,
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`the European Court
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`Plodovaya Kompania admissible.
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`Plodovaya Kompania is the
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`subsidiary of SPI Group which brought
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`Federation claiming certain
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`due process, and the violation of
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`litigations which took —~
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`the
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`the final court decision
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`lack of our title to the trademarks.
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`SP1 Group in the name of Plodovaya
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`Kompania claims that
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`the aforementioned court
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`Court would render the judgment on merits of this
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`that
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`these —— this
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`the dispute concerning the validity of its title
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`to the trademarks as in Russia -nd abroad.
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`European Court of Human Rights directly involve
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`the RUSSKAYA trademark?
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`Q,
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`Have the legal proceedings in
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`Russia and before the European Court of Human
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`if so, please describe how.
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`The legal —— the Russian
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`on the validity of
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`the transformation of the State
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`Enterprise Sojuzpiodoimport, VVO Sojuzpiodoimport,
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`VVO Sojuzplodoimport was
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`a number of trademarks for
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`Russian vodka,
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`including STOLICHNAYA, MOSKOVSKAYA
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`Russia and outside Russia.
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`Having been transformed in the ~~
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`the private company VAO Sojuzplodoinport, VAO
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`Sojuzplodoimport as the successor to VVO
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`Sojuzpiodoimport obtained the rights on all
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`Russian vodka trademarks registered in the
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`VVO Sojuzpiodoimport.
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`transformation of VVO Sojuzplodoimport
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`considered that now no valid title to the
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`the same legal
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`equally be used for the challenges of the title to
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