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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
`Trademark Trial and Appeal Board
`P.O. Box 1451
`Alexandria, VA 22313-1451
`General Contact Number: 571-272-8500
`General Email: TTABInfo@uspto.gov
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`January 18, 2025
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`Opposition No. 91294398
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`Forgen, LLC
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`v.
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`Forgen AI, LLC
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`M. Catherine Faint,
`Interlocutory Attorney:
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`Pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(f) and Trademark Rules 2.120(a)(1) and (2), the
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`parties held a timely discovery conference on January 16, 2025. See TRADEMARK TRIAL
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`AND APPEAL BOARD MANUAL OF PROCEDURE (TBMP) § 401.01 (2024). At Opposer’s
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`request, a member of the Board participated in the conference. See Trademark Rule
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`2.120(2)(i). Participating were Amy L. Kramer, Atty., appearing on behalf of Forgen
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`LLC (Opposer), and Richard W. Hoffmann, Atty., appearing on behalf of Forgen AI,
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`LLC (Applicant).
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`I.
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`General Rules and Guidelines
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`The Board apprised the parties of general procedural rules and guidelines that
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`govern inter partes proceedings, including:
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`• the Board’s liberal granting of motions to suspend for settlement efforts;
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`• the requirement that a party serve its initial disclosures pursuant to Fed.
`R. Civ. P. 26(a)(1)(A)(i) and (ii) prior to serving discovery requests or a
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`motion for summary judgment (see Trademark Rules 2.120(a)(3) and
`2.127(e)(1), 37 C.F.R. § 2.120(a)(3) and 2.127(e)(1));
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`• the requirement that a motion to compel initial disclosures must be filed
`within thirty days after the deadline therefor (see Trademark Rule
`2.120(f)(1). 37 C.F.R. § 2.120(f)(1));
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`• the requirement that all discovery requests must be served early enough to
`allow for responses prior to the close of discovery. Trademark Rule
`2.120(a)(3), 37 C.F.R. § 2.120(a)(3). The Board has clarified that this means
`31 days prior to the close of discovery. Estudi Moline Dissey, S.L. v. BioUrn,
`Inc., No. 92061508, 2017 TTAB LEXIS 238, at *6 (discovery requests must
`be served with at least thirty-one days remaining in the discovery period,
`including date of service, regardless of whether day of service falls on
`weekend or holiday).1 The duty to supplement discovery responses
`continues even after the close of discovery;
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` the requirement under Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(b)(5)(A)(i)-(ii) that a party
`withholding documents on the basis of a claim of privilege must, “(i)
`expressly make the claim; and (ii) describe the nature of the documents,
`communications, or tangible things not produced or disclosed – and do so in
`a manner that, without revealing information itself privileged or protected,
`will enable other parties to assess the claim.” The most common way to do
`this is by using a privilege log which identifies each document withheld,
`information regarding the nature of the privilege/protection claimed, the
`name of the person making/receiving the communication, the date and
`place of the communication, and the document’s general subject matter; see
`TBMP § 406.04(c);
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`1 As part of an internal Board pilot citation program on broadening acceptable forms of legal
`citation in Board cases, citations in this order are in the form recommended in TBMP § 101.03
`(2024). This order cites decisions of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit and the
`U.S. Court of Customs and Patent Appeals by the page(s) on which they appear in the Federal
`Reporter (e.g., F.2d, F.3d, or F.4th). For orders of the Board, this order employs citations to
`the Lexis legal database and cites only precedential decisions. Practitioners should also
`adhere to the practice set forth in TBMP § 101.03. Precedential decisions of the Board, and
`precedential decisions of the Federal Circuit involving Board decisions that issued January
`1, 2008, or after may be viewed in TTABVUE by entering the proceeding number, application
`number, registration number, expungement/reexamination number, mark, party, or
`correspondent. Many precedential Board decisions that issued from 1996 to 2008 are
`available online from the TTAB Reading Room by entering the same information. Most TTAB
`decisions that issued prior to 1996 are not available in USPTO databases.
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`• the requirement that motions to compel discovery, motions to test the
`sufficiency of responses or objections, and motions for summary judgment
`must be filed prior to the deadline for pretrial disclosures for the first
`testimony period as originally set or as reset. See Trademark Rules
`2.120(f)(1) and 2.127(e)(1), 37 C.F.R. 2.120(f)(1) and 2.127(e)(1); and Asustek
`Comput., Inc. v. Chengdu Westhouse Interactive Entm’t Co., No. 91225271,
`2018 TTAB LEXIS 391, at *6 (reconsideration of Board order denying
`untimely motion to compel filed on deadline for pretrial disclosures denied);
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` that testimony may be submitted in the form of an affidavit or declaration.
`Trademark Rules 2.121, 2.123 and 2.125.
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`II. Conference Summary
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`The Board inquired as to whether there are any related proceedings and whether
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`the parties had engaged in settlement discussions. The parties informed the Board
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`that there is no related federal or state court proceeding.
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`The parties did have brief settlement discussions, and would continue those
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`discussions after the teleconference.
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`III. Email Service/Response Deadlines
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`Pursuant to Trademark Rule 2.119(b), 37 C.F.R. § 2.119(b), service of papers must
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`be made via email unless otherwise stipulated by the parties. Deadlines for
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`submissions to the Board that are initiated by a date of service are 20 days.
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`Trademark Rule 2.127, 37 C.F.R. § 2.127. Responses to motions for summary
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`judgment are 30 days, while reply briefs are 20 days. Deadlines for responses to
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`discovery requests are 30 days. Trademark Rule 2.120(a)(3), 37 C.F.R. § 2.120(a)(3).
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`IV. Board’s Standard Protective Order
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`The Board’s Standard Protective Order (SPO) is automatically imposed in this
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`proceeding pursuant to Trademark Rule 2.116(g), unless the parties, by stipulation
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`approved by the Board, agree to an alternative order, or a motion by a party to use
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`an alternative order is granted by the Board. If the parties choose to modify the terms
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`of the Board’s standard protective order and enter into their own stipulated protective
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`order, a copy of the executed agreement should be filed with the Board. The Board
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`will acknowledge receipt of the agreement, but the parties should not wait for the
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`Board’s acknowledgement to conduct themselves in accordance with the terms of
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`their agreement. Intercont’l Exch. Holdings, Inc. v. New York Mercantile Exch., Inc.,
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`No. 91235909, 2021 TTAB LEXIS 357, at *2 (Board’s standard protective order may
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`be modified by stipulation of parties, approved by Board, or upon motion granted by
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`Board).2
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`The parties did not wish to submit a signed version of the SPO.
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`V.
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`Review of the Pleadings
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`A. Notice of Opposition
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`Reviewing the notice of opposition, Opposer claims likelihood of confusion with its
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`common law rights in the identical mark for geotechnical and civil construction
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`services. Opposer also claims ownership of four pending trademark applications for
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`the identical standard character mark, and a design mark incorporating FORGEN,
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`for services in International Classes 37, 39 and 40. Opposer attached TSDR database
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`printouts for its claimed applications to the pleading for Application Serial Nos.
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`98121907, 98121911, 98121916 and 98121918. The standard character mark in
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`2 The parties may not use an amended protective order to circumvent paragraph (d) and (e)
`(public availability of records) of Trademark Rule 2.27, 37 C.F.R. § 2.27. See TBMP §
`412.02(a).
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`Application Serial No. 98121918 and the design mark in Application Serial No.
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`98121916, for the services in Classes 39 and 40, have since registered. While Opposer
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`will not need to amend its pleading to claim ownership of the registrations, Opposer
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`will need to make status and title copies of those registrations of record at summary
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`judgment or trial, if Opposer wishes to rely on them for establishing entitlement to a
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`statutory cause of action.
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`Opposer alleges likelihood of confusion with its registered and common law marks.
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`A likelihood of confusion determination under Trademark Act § 2(d), 15 U.S.C. §
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`1052(d), is based on an analysis of the priority of use claim and of all of the facts in
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`evidence that are relevant to the factors bearing on the likelihood of confusion issue
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`(the duPont factors). In re E.I. du Pont de Nemours & Co., 476 F.2d 1357, 177 USPQ
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`563 (CCPA 1973). There are thirteen duPont factors, however, not all of the duPont
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`factors are relevant or of similar weight in every case. In re Dixie Rests., Inc., 105
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`F.3d 1405, 1406-07 (Fed. Cir. 1997). The burden will be on Opposer to prove likelihood
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`of confusion, as well as any other relevant factors.
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`B. Answer
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`Applicant has answered the petition to cancel denying the salient allegations, or
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`stating that it is without sufficient information to admit or deny them, which serves
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`as a denial. The answer is sufficient.
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`Applicant alleges as a single affirmative defense, that Opposer cannot
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`demonstrate any likelihood that the public will be confused or misled as to the source
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`of Applicant’s goods or that Applicant’s goods are associated with or endorsed by
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`Opposer. This is not a true affirmative defense but the Board construes it as an
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`amplification of Applicant’s denials. As such it is permitted to give Opposer fuller
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`notice of the position which Applicant plans to take in defense of its marks. See
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`Morgan Creek Prods., Inc. v. Foria Int’l, Inc., No. 9173806, 2009 TTAB LEXIS 445,
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`*3.; Humana Inc. v. Humanomics, Inc., No. 91071097, 1987 TTAB LEXIS 59, at * 2
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`n.5 (allegations under heading “affirmative defenses” were arguments in support of
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`denial of claim rather than true affirmative defenses and were treated as such).
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`VI. Accelerated Case Resolution (ACR)
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`The Board briefly explained the availability and features of the “accelerated case
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`resolution” (“ACR”) process and noted that this case may be suitable for an ACR
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`proceeding. For further information, the Board referred the parties to TBMP §§
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`528.05(a)(2), 702.04 and 705, as well as the link on the Board’s web page to ACR
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`information and exemplary ACR proceedings. Counsel expressed some interest in the
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`use of ACR, but were not willing to stipulate to ACR at this point.
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`The parties may leave open the possibility of ACR at a future date after some more
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`discussion regarding settlement. The parties may telephone the Interlocutory
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`Attorney at any time to set up a teleconference to discuss ACR.
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`VII. Discovery
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`The discovery conference was held on January 16, 2025, the opening date for discovery
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`as set by the Board’s Institution Order.3
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`Requests for production of documents and requests for admission, as well as
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`interrogatories, are each limited to 75. Trademark Rule 2.120, 37 C.F.R. § 2.120. While
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`the Board in its discretion may allow additional discovery requests, such may be granted
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`only upon a showing of good cause or upon stipulation of the parties. See TBMP §§
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`405.03(c), 406.05(c) and 407.05(c). Such a determination is made on a case-by-case basis.
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`See, e.g., Spliethoff's Bevrachtingskantoor B.V. v. United Yacht Transp. LLC, No.
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`91219179, 2020 TTAB LEXIS 200, at *8 (TTAB 2020) (discussing what constitutes good
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`cause to exceed limitations on discovery requests).
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`The parties are directed to TBMP § 414 regarding the discoverability of various
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`categories of information in Board proceedings. The parties are reminded that the Board
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`is an administrative tribunal that determines the registrability of trademarks. If the case
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`should progress so far, the parties should be mindful when submitting trial evidence to
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`the Board that the better practice is to focus on supporting, only to the extent required
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`by the pertinent burden of proof, the facts to be established.
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`In discussing the use of electronically stored information (ESI), the parties did not
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`think there would be significant issues regarding its use in this proceeding.
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`VIII. Schedule
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`Dates remain as set in the Board’s institution order, as copied below.
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`Deadline for Discovery Conference
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`Discovery Opens
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`Initial Disclosures Due
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`Expert Disclosures Due
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`Discovery Closes
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`Plaintiff's Pretrial Disclosures Due
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`1/16/2025
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`1/16/2025
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`2/15/2025
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`6/15/2025
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`7/15/2025
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`8/29/2025
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`Plaintiff's 30-day Trial Period Ends
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`10/13/2025
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`Defendant's Pretrial Disclosures Due
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`10/28/2025
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`Defendant's 30-day Trial Period Ends
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`12/12/2025
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`Plaintiff's Rebuttal Disclosures Due
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`12/27/2025
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`Plaintiff's 15-day Rebuttal Period Ends 1/26/2026
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`Plaintiff's Opening Brief Due
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`Defendant's Brief Due
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`Plaintiff's Reply Brief Due
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`3/27/2026
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`4/26/2026
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`5/11/2026
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`Request for Oral Hearing (optional) Due 5/21/2026
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`Important Trial Briefing Instructions
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`Generally, the Federal Rules of Evidence apply to Board trials. Trial testimony is
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`taken and introduced out of the presence of the Board during the assigned testimony
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`periods. The parties may stipulate to a wide variety of matters, and many
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`requirements relevant to the trial phase of Board proceedings are set forth in
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`Trademark Rules 2.121 through 2.125. These include pretrial disclosures, the
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`manner and timing of taking testimony, matters in evidence, and the procedures for
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`submitting and serving testimony and other evidence, including affidavits,
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`declarations, deposition transcripts and stipulated evidence. Trial briefs shall be
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`submitted in accordance with Trademark Rules 2.128(a) and (b). Such briefs should
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`utilize citations to the TTABVUE record created during trial, to facilitate the Board’s
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`review of the evidence at final hearing. See TBMP § 801.03. Oral argument at final
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`hearing will be scheduled only upon the timely submission of a separate notice as
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`allowed by Trademark Rule 2.129(a).
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