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`IN THE UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
`BEFORE THE TRADEMARK TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
`91210158
`Defendant
`Lundy Law, LLP
`MANNY D POKOTILOW
`CAESAR RIVISE BERNSTEIN COHEN & POKOT
`1635 MARKET ST , SEVEN PENN CENTER 12TH FLOOR
`PHILADELPHIA, PA 19103
`UNITED STATES
`trademarks@crbcp.com, mlozada@crbcp.com
`Other Motions/Papers
`Manny D. Pokotilow
`mlozada@crbcp.com
`/mdp/
`02/23/2015
`L118140003 Lundy Opposition to Pitt request Redesignate with exhibits 02 23
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`IN THE UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE TRADEMARK TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`LARRY PITT & ASSOCIATES, P.C.
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`Opposer,
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`vs.
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`LUNDY LAW, LLP
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`Applicant.
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`Opposition No. 91210158
`A.S.N. 85/767,757
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`APPLICANT, LUNDY LAW’S OPPOSITION TO
`LARRY PITT & ASSOCIATES’ REQUEST FOR REDESIGNATION
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`Opposer, Larry Pitt & Associates, P.C. has requested redesignation of documents which
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`were labeled “Trade Secret/ Commercially Sensitive/ Attorney’s Eyes Only” so that it may show
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`the documents to the Opposer, a direct competitor of Applicant. On Friday, February 20, 2014,
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`App1icant’s counsel advised Opposer’s counsel
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`it would stipulate to the redesignation of
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`documents from “Attorneys’ Eyes Only” to “Confidential”. These documents are stamped Bates
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`Nos. 1159-1160, 1163, 1164, 1184, 1261-1267, 1270-1281, 1314, 1240, 1245- 1246, 1248-1250,
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`1380-1384, 1315, 1370 and 1632-1633 to Confidential so that the documents may be shown to
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`Opposer under the Protective order. Lundy Law, LLP through its managing partner L. Leonard
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`Lundy has described why in his accompanying Declaration the “Trade Secret/ Commercially
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`SensitiVe/ Attorneys Eyes Only” designated documents, which contain information on many subjects,
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`are valuable trade secrets which should not be seen by a competitor. These documents include Bates
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`Nos. 1128,1133-1138, 1161, 1371,1372, 1376-1378,1388,1389,1393-1536,1443,1450,1162,
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`1167, 1168, 1185-1187, 1193, 1260, 1268, 1269, 1282-1288, 1289-1293, 1294-1314, 1630,
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`1631, 1194-1211, 1234, 1235, 1165, 1166, 1188-1192, 1252, 1254 -1256, 1212-1225, 1226,
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`1236-1239,1241-1244,1247, 1251-1253,1257-1259, 1379, l3l6,l3l7,l347-1353, 1354-1357,
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`1358-1359, 1360-1364, 1374, 1375, 1390, 1391,1549-1583, 1583 and 1584.1 Opposer’s Request
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`for Redesignation should be denied not only because the documents contain highly sensitive
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`marketing and financial information, but also, Opposer is a direct competitor and the documents have
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`not even been shown to be relevant to the issues in this case. That is, in the Board’s Order dated
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`October 31, 2014 the Board granted Applicant’s Motion for Summary Judgment
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`to dismiss
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`Opposer’s claims that the mark REMEMBER THIS NAME is generic or descriptive. The Board in
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`that order allowed Opposer “to file and serve an amended notice of opposition which properly sets
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`forth a claim that Applicant’s REMEMBER THIS NAME does not function as a service mark.” (At
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`17) However, all of the documents that remain designated “Trade Secret/ Commercially Sensitive/
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`Attorney’s Eyes Only” documents are documents that have never been published. Only those
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`documents that show how the mark REMEMBER THIS NAME has been publicly used are relevant
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`and Opposer has not even suggested that any of the documents are relevant.
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`I.
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`Background of the Document Production
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`All of the documents that are in issue were produced in compliance with the Board’s
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`Order dated Feb. 28, 2014 which was entered when the issues included only whether the mark
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`REMEMBER THIS NAME is generic and/or descriptive. The Board in that Order (footnote 8 at
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`page 9) noted that the parties “have agreed to proceed in this matter without a protective order.”
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`The Board then imposed upon the parties the standard protective order.
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`It should be noted that it
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`was so represented by Opposer in connection with the Motion to Compel which resulted in the
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`' These documents are discussed in the Declaration of L. Leonard Lundy (Exhibit 1) in the order
`that they are described in Opposer’s Memorandum in Support of Redesignation.
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`Order dated February 28, 2014 that the parties had agreed to proceed without a protective order.
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`Applicant respectfully wishes to clarify that alleged agreement.
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`ln fact, Applicant’s counsel on
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`June 12, 2013 (Exhibit 2) asked Opposer’s counsel if it would be agreeable to the default
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`protective order of the TTAB. When counsel for the parties had a telephone conference shortly
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`thereafter, Opposer’s counsel refused to sign any protective order. Applicant’s counsel advised
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`that if any documents had to be produced, which were confidential, they would not be produced
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`without a protective order. See Exhibit 3, Applicant’s counse1’s letter to Opposer’s counsel of
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`June 14, 2013. As the Board noted in the Order dated February 28, 2014 at pages 6 and 7,
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`Opposer sought “a broad range of discovery (which the Board find is not necessary to respond to
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`app1icant’s motion for summary judgment)” The Board did allow the discovery of the
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`documents Applicant produced under the protective order because they might relate to the issues
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`of genericness or descriptiveness of the mark REMEMBER THIS NAME. The Board also
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`ordered that the standard Protective Order be imposed in this case (p. 9, fn 8). Since both of
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`those issues are no longer part of the case, the relevancy of these documents has yet to be shown
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`by the Opposer who has failed in its request to even mention the relevancy of the documents
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`sought to be redesignated.
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`II.
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`Information in Documents in Issue are Valuable Trade Secrets of Lundy
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`Law and Opposer is a Direct Competitor
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`As set forth in the accompanying Declaration of L. Leonard Lundy (Exhibit 1), managing
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`partner of the Applicant, Lundy Law, LLP, all of the documents in issue identified in the Request
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`for Redesignation are highly confidential documents evidencing Lundy Law, LLP’s marketing
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`strategy and if used by its competitors would be very damaging. See Paragraph 4.
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`In this
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`respect, Applicant, Larry Pitt & Associates, is one of many direct, head—to—head competitors of
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`Lundy Law, LLP and the disclosure of the documents to any one of Lundy Law’s competitors
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`would do substantial financial damage to Lundy Law. This is so even though some of the
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`documents at issue are several years old because they retain current competitive significance and
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`would reveal Lundy Law’s current marketing strategy, which has not changed in the interim.
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`The value of this marketing strategy for Lundy Law’s services is shown by the statements made
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`by Opposer in a co—pending civil action filed by the Opposer against Applicantz.
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`“The business of a law firm such as Pitt or Lundy is wholly dependent on the
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`ability of the firm to attract and ultimately sign engagement agreements with, a high volume of
`individual clients. This is because the individual fees collected are often relatively small per case
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`and sporadically collected.”
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`“Thus, drawing clients into a given small personal
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`injury and social security
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`disability and workers’ compensation law firrn’s intake process is, in effect, the most important
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`component of such a law firm’s business.”
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`“If a prospective client is not exposed, through the most effective mass reach
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`advertising, to the name and contact information of a given small personal injury and social
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`security disability and workers’ compensation law firm on a routine, consistent, and respective
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`basis, that prospective client will not know to call that law finn’s intake number when the need
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`for such services arises and, as a result, that prospective client will not retain that law firm.”
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`Thus as Opposer itself has stated, it is the marketing strategy of a personal injury firm
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`that is its most important component. The specific documents that Opposer has alleged in its
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`Memorandum to contain information that has been published are in fact documents that do not
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`contain published commercials as set forth in the Declaration of L. Leonard Lundy which are
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`incorporated by reference herein. Accordingly, not only do the documents contain information,
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`ideas and strategies for marketing that are trade secrets, the Opposer is a direct competitor who
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`would benefit at the expense of Lundy Law by being exposed to the information which has no
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`relevance, in fact or as alleged by Opposer, to the issues remaining in this case.
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`3 Larry Pitt & Associates, PC. v. Lundy Law, LLP, et al, Civil Action No. l3-2398 in the United
`States District Couit for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, Document 68~2, p.8.
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`III.
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`The Designation of “Trade Secret/ Commercially Sensitive/ Attorney's Eyes
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`Only” is Appropriate for the Documents at Issue
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`Unlike the cases cited by Opposer, there is a substantial question as to the relevance of
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`the documents sought by Opposer to be redesignated. This lack of evidence of relevance of the
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`documents to the issue in the case is exacerbated by the fact that Opposer is a head-to—head
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`competitor of Lundy Law.
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`In addition, the documents at issue contain trade secrets relating to
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`highly sensitive marketing plans and ideas for future commercials. And, the redesignation is
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`sought by the Opposer so that Opposer may review these documents.
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`In such a case, the legal
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`standard for determining whether an “attorneys eyes only” designation is appropriate is set forth
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`in a recent decision in the United States District Court for the Northern District of California in
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`Pinterest, Inc. v Pintrips, Inc., 2014 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 149497, attached as Exhibit 4 for the
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`convenience of the Board.
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`In determining that House Counsel was not entitled to see documents
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`designated “HIGHLY CONFIDENTIALMATTORNEYS EYES ONLY” the court stated (at
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`pages 1 and 2):
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`Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 26(b)(l) permits "discovery regarding any
`nonprivileged matter that is relevant to any party's claim or defense." The
`information sought "need not be admissible at
`the trial" so long as it
`"appears reasonably calculated to lead to the discovery of admissible
`evidence." Id. A producing party may ask the Court to minimize its burden
`to turn over discoverable information by ordering "that a [*3]
`trade secret
`or other confidential research, development, or commercial information
`need not be revealed or revealed only in a specified way." Fed. R. Civ. P.
`26(0). In that instance, the producing party bears the burden of showing
`that such protection is warranted. City of Oakland v. SSA Terminals,
`LLC, No. C 11-1446 YGR (MEI), 2012 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 56757, 2012
`WL 1414075, at *2 (N.D. Cal. April 23, 2012). The Court must balance
`the risk of inadvertent disclosure of trade secrets to competitors against the
`risk that the protection of such information will impair a plaintiffs ability
`to prosecute its case. Brown Bag Software v. Symantec Corp., 960 F.2d
`1465, 1470 (9th Cir. 1992) (no abuse of discretion where magistrate judge
`held an evidentiary hearing, during which in—house counsel testified, prior
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`to issuing a protective order limiting access to attoriieys' eyes only
`information).
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`The Court in Pinterest fuither noted that "The concern for inadvertent [*5] disclosure is
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`particularly acute where the party seeking access to the information is a direct competitor."
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`Adobe Systems, Inc. v. Davachi, No. C 10-03575 SC (LB), 2011 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 71296, 2011
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`WL 2610170, at *5 (N.D. Cal. July 1, 2011) (citing U.S. Steel Corp., 730 F.2d at 1468 11.3).
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`Because both parties were competitors the mere risk of inadvertent disclosure by house counsel
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`was sufficient to deny access to the documents designated “HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL»
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`ATTORNEYS EYES ONLY”.
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`In the instant case, Opposer is asking the Board to permit the direct competitor of Lundy
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`Law, not its house counsel, to have access to the documents of Lundy Law containing future
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`commercials, marketing strategy, when and where to advertise, etc. for the same business,
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`personal injury law.
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`This balancing of divergent interests requires that when a competitor is seeking discovery
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`and the opposing party has shown that the discovery sought is coininercially sensitive and
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`confidential information, and that its disclosure is potentially harmful, the competitor must then
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`“show that
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`this information is relevant and necessary in the prosecution of the litigation.”
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`DuracellL Inc. v. SW Consultants, Inc., 126 F.R.D. 576 (N.D. Ga. 1989), (In balancing the
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`potential harm to the paity from disclosure against the need of the party seeking marketing data,
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`the court denied disclosure until evidence was submitted of its relevance.) See also Empire of
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`Carolina Inc. v. Mackle, 108 F.R.D. 323, 327 (S.D. F1. 1985), where production of confidential
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`financial strategy was denied because such information was protectable and the materials sought
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`were of limited relevance. Thus, without showing substantial relevance of discovery sought,
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`potentially harmful discovery to a party are protected from disclosure. Further, Opposer must
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`show why its counsel is not capable of handling this case without its assistance.
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`As seen by Pinterest, and the cases cited therein such as U.S. Steel Corp. v. United States,
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`730 F.2d 1465, 1467(Fed. Cir. 1984) and the Duracell and Empire of Carolina cases, a court
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`must balance the interests of maintaining valuable trade secrets against the risk that the other
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`party’s ability to prosecute its case will be limited. Here it is clear, there is not any evidence that
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`the documents are relevant to the issue. As set forth above, the issue in this case is whether the
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`mark REMEMBER THIS NAME has been used as a service mark for legal
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`services.
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`Accordingly it is highly unlikely that any of the documents in issue, none of which have been
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`published, would be ‘used in the prosecution of this case by Opposer. Compared with the value
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`of the trade secrets and the irreparable harm that would be caused by use of the marketing
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`strategies of Lundy Law against it in marketing by a competitor, it is respectfully requested that
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`access to the documents designated “Trade Secret/ Commercially Sensitive/ Attorney’s Eyes
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`Only” be denied to the Opposer and the requests for redesignation denied.
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`IV.
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`Conclusion
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`For the reasons set forth above and in the L. Leonard Lundy Declaration incorporated
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`herein, Applicant Lundy Law respectfully requests that Opposer be denied access to the
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`documents designated “Trade Secret/ Commercially Sensitive/ Attorney’s Eyes Only”. Opposer
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`has yet to claim, much less show any relevance of the documents so designated while Applicant
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`has made a very specific showing that the documents contain information which are valuable
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`trade secrets, the misuse of which would not only be costly, such misuse could cause irreparable
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`harm. When balancing the competing interests, it is respectfully submitted they weigh heavily in
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`favor of Applicants request that Opposer’s request for redesignation be denied of the documents
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`wit11 Bates Numbers 1128, 1133-1138, 1159-1160, 1161, 1371, 1372, 1376-1378, 1388, 1389,
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`1393-1536, 1443, 1450, 1162, 1167,
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`1168, 1185-1187, 1193, 1260, 1268, 1269, 1282-1288,
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`1289-1293,1294-1314,1630,1631,1194-1211,1234,1235,1165,1166,1188-1192,1252,1254
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`-1256, 1212-1225, 1226, 1236-1239, 1241-1244, 1247, 1251-1253, 1257-1259, 1379, 1316,
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`1317,1347-1353,1354-1357, 1358-1359, 1360-1364,1374,1375, 1390, 1391,1549-1583, 1583
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`and 1584 (see paragraphs 7 through Slof the L. Leonard Lundy Declaration).
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`Respectfully submitted,
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`CAESAR, RIVISE, BERNSTEIN,
`COHEN & POKOTILOW, LTD.
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`Dated: February 23, 2015
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`By
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`/MPokotilow/
`Manny D. Pokotilow
`1635 Market Street
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`12th Floor - Seven Penn Center
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`Philadelphia, PA 19103-2212
`Attorneysfor Applicant Lundy Law, LLP
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`CERTIFICATE OF MAILING
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`The undersigned hereby certifies that
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`the within APPLICANT, LUNDY LAW’S
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`OPPOSITION TO LARRY PITT & ASSOCIATES’ REQUEST FOR REDESIGNATION is
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`being electronically filed with the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board, Via the Electronic System
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`for Trademark Trial and Appeals (ESTTA) on this day, February 23, 2015.
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`/MPokoti1ow/
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`Manny Pokotilow
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
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`The undersigned hereby certifies that
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`the within APPLICANT, LUNDY LAW’S
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`OPPOSITION TO LARRY PITT & ASSOCIATES’ REQUEST FOR REDESIGNATION is
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`being served upon Opposer, on this 23"d day of February, 2015 Via First Class Mail
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`in an
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`envelope addressed to:
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`Jacqueline Lesser
`Nancy Frandsen
`Baker & Hostetler LLP
`Cira Centre — 12”‘ Floor
`2929 Arch Street
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`Philadelphia, PA 19104-2891
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`/MPokotil0w/
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`Manny Pokotilow
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`EXHIBIT 1EXHIBIT 1
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`IN THE UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE TRADEMARK TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`LARRY PITT & ASSOCIATES, P.C.
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`Opposer,
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`vs.
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`LUNDY LAW,LLP
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`Applicant.
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`Opposition No. 91210158
`A.S.N. 85/767,757
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`DECLARATION OF L. LEONARD LUNDY
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`I, L. Leonard Lundy, declare as follows:
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`1.
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`2.
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`I am the managing partner of Lundy Law, LLP, the Applicant in this matter.
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`I submit
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`this declaration in support of Lundy Law, LLP’s Opposition to
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`Opposer’s Request
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`for Redesignation of Documents Marked “Trade Secret/Commercially
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`Sensitive/Attorneys’ Eyes Only”, filed herewith.
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`3.
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`In particular,
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`I wish to respond to Opposer’s assertions on pages 7-10 of its
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`Request for Redesignation.
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`4.
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`As a preliminary matter, all of the documents referred to in the Request for
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`Redesignation are highly confidential documents evidencing Lundy Law, LLP’s marketing
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`strategy and could be used by its competitors to cause competitive harm to Lundy Law, LLP.
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`Opposer Larry Pitt & Associates is one of many direct, head—to—head competitors of Lundy Law,
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`LLP. The disclosure of the documents at issue to any one of Lundy Law’s competitors would do
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`substantial financial damage to Lundy Law. This is so even though some of the documents at
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`issue are several years old. They retain current competitive significance and would reveal Lundy
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`Law, LLP’s current marketing strategy, which has not materially changed in the interim.
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`5.
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`In a co—pending civil action filed by the Opposer against Applicant, the Opposer
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`has explained why, in its view, a law finn would consider documents revealing its marketing
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`strategies Trade Secret/Coininerically Sensitive/Attorneys’ Eyes Only. In particular, Opposer
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`stated:
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`“The business of a law firm such as Pitt or Lundy is wholly dependent on the
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`ability of the firm to attract and ultimately sign engagement agreements with, a high
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`volume of individual clients. This is because the individual fees collected are often
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`relatively small per case and sporadically collected.”
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`-
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`“Thus, drawing clients into a given small personal
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`injury and social security
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`disability and workers’ compensation law firm’s intake process is, in effect, the most
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`important component of such a law firm’s business.”
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`-
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`“If a prospective client is not exposed, through the most effective mass reach
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`advertising, to the name and contact information of a given small personal injury and
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`social security disability and workers’ compensation law firm on a routine, consistent,
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`and respective basis, that prospective client will not know to call that law firm’s intake
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`number when the need for such services arises and, as a result, that prospective client will
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`not retain that law firm.”
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`6.
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`As I understand it, the Opposition is now limited to whether or not Lundy Law
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`has been using the Service Mark REMEMBER THIS NAME as a service mark, and under the
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`Lanham Act, a service mark is “in use in commerce” if the mark is used or displayed in the sale
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`or advertising of services. Accordingly it is my understanding that the manner in which the mark
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`has actually been shown to the public is what is at issue in this case.
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`I do not believe any of the
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`documents for which redesignation is sought in this motion are in any way relevant to that issue.
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`7.
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`Opposer has identified the categories of documents which it seeks to redesignate.
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`The first category is Spot Calendars and Confirmation of Spots. With respect to document Bates
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`Nos. 1128, it is a schedule which is not available to the public and which schedules are not made
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`public.
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`In addition, the public would never know, nor would a competitor know, what our
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`schedules are or whether any specific commercial ran or did not run. Revealing this document
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`to Opposer would not only reveal Lundy Law, LLP’s scheduling strategy, it would be providing
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`to Opposer, a direct business competitor, the marketing strategy used by Lundy with respect to
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`when and where it places commercials.
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`8.
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`With respect to document Bates Nos. 1133-1138, my answer is the same as the
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`answer to Bates No. 1128.
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`9.
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`With respect to document Bates Nos. 1159-1160, I understand that the parties
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`have already agreed to redesignate these documents.
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`10. With respect to document Bates No. 1161, disclosure would reveal confidential
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`marketing plans of Lundy Law, LLP and show how Lundy Law apportions placed ads by
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`practice areas. This is not information that Lundy Law, LLP’s competitors could derive from
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`public sources.
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`11. With respect
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`to document Bates Nos. 1371-1372, such documents contain
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`information relating to placing of ads and show the marketing strategy of Lundy Law, LLP as
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`well as the name of its contacts — all of which are trade secrets. Lundy Law takes appropriate
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`steps to protect all of its confidential documents from being revealed to its competitors and limits
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`the disclosures to only employees with a need to know.
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`12. With respect to document Bates Nos. 1376-1378 and 1388-1389,
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`1 repeat the
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`comments made with respect to document Bates Nos. 1371-1372.
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`13. With respect to document Bates Nos. 1393-1536, these emails when taken as a
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`whole represent
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`internal and outside communications detailing our marketing plans and
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`strategies. These documents represent valuable trade secrets.
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`14. With respect to document Bates No. 1443, it represents a commercial that has
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`never aired or published and is a trade secret.
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`15. With respect
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`to document Bates ‘No. 1450, as with the remainder of the
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`documents in this grouping, of documents categorized by Pitt as “Spot Calendars and
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`Confirmation of Spots”, it represents an idea script that was never used.
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`In this respect, this
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`group of documents shows how Lundy Law decides what commercials to run, and where to air
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`them. This group of documents also show “spot codes” which is how Lundy Law numerically
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`labels a spot, and how it proportions and sets its schedules of advertising.
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`It is also the internal
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`designation, of the type of legal service for which the advertisement
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`is written and then
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`scheduled, none of which is available to the public or competitors. These documents also show
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`internal call trend, internal costs and other sensitive dollar amounts, very sensitive economic
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`numbers, competitor information and traffic information with respect to commercials, websites,
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`yellow page information, financial information and a substantial amount of strategy information
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`that would be very valuable to a competitor and represents trade secrets of highly detailed
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`information on Lundy Law’s marketing and clients. The documents of this series not only are
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`extremely confidential, they contain dollar amounts Lundy Law planned to spend on marketing.
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`These documents also contain bills from the production companies and show how much Lundy
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`Law paid for commercials, e mails to members of Lundy Law and its vendors all of which is
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`very sensitive and proprietary about how Lundy Law markets and operates.
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`16. With respect to the category of documents Opposer classifies as Story Boards,
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`contrary to Opposer’s statement, these do not show previously released advertisements. They
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`show possible advertisements which were not released and may be used in the future.
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`In this
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`respect, with respect to document Bates No. 1162, the advertisement has not been released and
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`this advertisement is still a trade secret. All of the unreleased advertisements and story boards of
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`commercials, ideas and advertisements not yet released are trade secrets.
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`17. With respect to document Bates Nos. 1163-1164, I understand the parties have
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`stipulated to the redesignation of such documents.
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`18. With respect to document Bates Nos. 1167-1168, Lundy Law has not released
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`advertisements based on these story boards.
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`19. With respect to document Bates Nos. 1184-1187,
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`I understand document No.
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`1184 is part of the stipulation to redesignate. Document No. 1185 is not a released
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`advertisement. Document Nos. 1186-1187 have never been released.
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`20. With respect to document Bates No. 1193,
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`the advertisement has never been
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`released.
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`21. With respect to document Bates No. 1260, this is a never released advertising
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`idea.
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`22. With respect to document Bates No. 1261-1267, I understand these are part of the
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`stipulation to redesignate.
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`23. With respect
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`to document Bates Nos. 1268-1269,
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`these are never released
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`advertisements and remain trade secrets.
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`24. With respect to document Bates Nos. 1270-1281, , I understand these are part of
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`the stipulation to redesignate.
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`25. With respect
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`to document Bates Nos. 1282-1288,
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`these are not previously
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`released advertisements.
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`In fact, they have not been published and remain trade secrets.
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`26. With respect to document Bates Nos. 1286-1288, I understand these documents
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`are part of the stipulation to be redesignated.
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`27. With respect
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`to document Bates Nos. 1289-1293,
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`these are not previously
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`released advertisements, but rather unreleased and not yet aired.
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`28. With respect to document Bates Nos. 1294-1314 these are combined story boards
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`which have not been used or released as advertisements. Story boards do not necessarily become
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`commercials. They are pictorials which are reviewed and may or may not be approved for
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`commercial release. They represent ideas and planning which have substantial value for future
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`advertising and are trade secrets.
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`29. With respect to document Bates No. 1314, I understand it is part of the stipulation
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`to redesignate.
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`30. With respect to document Bates Nos. 1630-1631, these represent ideas and story
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`boards which have not been released and which contain confidential and highly valuable ideas
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`which have not yet been released.
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`31.
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`Documents categorized by Opposer as Advertising Schedules - document Bates
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`Nos. 1194-1211 and 1234-1235 are schedules that are not available to the public, which show the
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`highly confidential marketing strategies used by Lundy Law, LLP and represent highly valuable
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`commercial information relating to how and why Applicant successfully advertises its services.
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`These are valuable trade secrets.
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`32. With respect to the category referred to as Old, Outdated Marketing Plans and
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`Proposals, the first Bates Nos. referred to are 1165-1166. Bates No. 1165 shows marketing
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`strategy and ideas which are trade secrets.
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`33. With respect to document Bates Nos. 1188-1192, these documents are highly
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`confidential advertising proposals which include marketing strategy in addition to the sales
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`figures which Opposer has recognized as trade secrets.
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`34. With respect to document Bates Nos. 1252 and 1254-1256, these documents are
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`part of the planning process of making commercials for Lundy Law, LLP including ideas, story
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`boards of commercials that have not been aired and script changes and ideas. These are trade
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`secrets.
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`35. With respect to documents which are listed as Scripts for Previously Released
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`Ads, document Bates Nos. 1212-1225 are transcripts of recordings of my statements which were
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`edited in parts for commercials. These transcripts contain very sensitive information and much
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`of this has never been used. There are production questions and notes, all of which are highly
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`confidential trade secrets and this information is used to create a series of commercials.
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`It is
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`highly proprietary and if released will permit a competitor to use Lundy Law’s ideas.
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`36. With respect to document Bates Nos. 1226 and 1236-1239, these have never been
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`aired. They are highly confidential ideas which are used for planning and which may be aired in
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`the future.
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`37.
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`1 understand Document Bates No. 1240 is part of the stipulation for redesignation.
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`38.
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`Document Bates Nos. 1241-1244, 1 do not believe they have been released and
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`consider them highly confidential trade secrets.
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`39.
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`I understand Document Bates Nos. 1245-1246 are part of the stipulation.
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`40.
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`Document Bates No. 1247 has not been used or released and is considered highly
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`confidential and is a trade secret.
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`41.
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`I understand Document Bates Nos. 1248-1250 are part of the stipulation.
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`42. With respect to document Bates Nos. 1251-1253, 1257-1259, these have never
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`been published and are trade secrets.
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`43. With respect to document Bates No. 1379, it is for a commercial that has never
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`been aired. Again, it is part of proposed scripts and lines that are part of the creative process for
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`commercials and thus trade secrets.
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`44. With respect to document Bates No. 1380-1384, I understand they are part of the
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`stipulation for redesignation.
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`45. With respect to the category of documents referred to as Outdated Marketing
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`Emails Discussing Publicly Released Plans and Materials, I understand the first document Bates
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`No. 1315 is part ofthe stipulation. With respect to document Bates Nos. 1316-1317 and 1347-
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`1353 and 1354-1357 these are highly confidential emails between Lundy Law, LLP and its
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`vendors relating to commercials and Lundy Law’s website. They are part of the creative process
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`which is highly detailed and highly confidential. They are trade secrets.
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`46. With respect to document Bates Nos. 1357-1359, these documents contain highly
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`confidential
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`information concerning proposed changes to marketing strategy,
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`in addition to
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`showing how the strategy is arrived at. All of this is highly confidential and constitutes trade
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`secrets.
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`47. With respect to document Bates Nos. 1360-1364, these are highly confidential
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`emails relating to the manner in which commercials are created.
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`48. With respect to document Bates Nos. 1370, I understand this document is part of
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`the stipulation.
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`49.
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`With respect to Bates Nos. 1374-1375, 1390-1391, 1549-1583, these are emails,
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`schedules, spot codes of what was run, when it was run, script ideas not published as
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`yet,
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`commercials which were never run, cost of ads, costs of spots on TV,
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`the cost per specific
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`commercials to be run in specific shows on television stations.
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`These are all trade secrets for
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`the reasons set forth above.
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`50. With respect to Bates No. 1583-1584, these are highly confidential emails
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`between Lundy Law and its ad agency which are trade secrets for the reasons set forth above.
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`51. With respect to document Bates Nos. 1632-1633, I understand these documents
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`are part of the stipulation.
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`52.
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`The documents stamped Bates Nos. 1128, 1133-1138, 1161, 11371 and 1372,
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`1376-1378, 1388 and 1389, 1393-1536, 1443, 1450, 1162, 1167 and 1168, 1185-1187, 1193,
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`1260, 1268 and 1269, 1282-1288, 1289-1293, 1294-1314, 1630-1631, 1194-1211, 1234-1235,
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`1165,1166,1188-1192,1252,1254-1256,1212-1225,1226,1236—1239,1241-1244, 1247,1251-
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`1253, 1257-1259, 1379, 1316 and 1317, 1347-1353, 1354-1357, 1357-1359, 1360-1364, 1374-
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`1375, 1390 and 1391, 1549-1584, in the order I discussed above reveal valuable trade secrets of
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`Lundy Law and for that reason, access to these documents is given to its employees only on a
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`need to know basis. If the information contained on these documents were given to a competitor
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`of Lundy Law, LLP, not only would there be substantial damage to Applicant, but also it would
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`be irreparably harmed.
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`I declare under penalty of perjury that the foregoing is true and correct.
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`/ L
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`. Leonard Lund , Managing Partner
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`Executed on February 23, 2015
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`EXHIBIT 2EXHIBIT 2
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`

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`Maggie Lozada
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`From:
`Sent:
`To:
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`Subject:
`Attachments:
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`.
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`Jackie,
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`Manny D. Pokotilow
`Wednesday, June 12, 2013 4:32 PM
`Jackie Lesser (jIesser@woodcock.com)
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`Pitt v Lundy Opposition Protective Order
`991231_1.docx
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`I am enclosing a default order that is from
`One of the items on tomorrow's agenda is agreeing to a protective order.
`the PTO website and which my secretary has added the caption for this case.
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`Please let me know if you are agreeable to the protective order and/or would like to make any changes.
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`Best regards, Manny
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`Manny Pokotilow
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`
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`§oI?s«rasMou‘“” ‘T
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`Caesar, Rivise, Bernstein, Cohen & Pokotilow, Ltd
`1635 Market S

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