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`Mining Container ~100kW by Polivka GmbH
`February 07, 2015, 12:11:27 PM
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` Polivka GmbH presents the Mining-Container, should be okay for >100kW of your gear:
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`Right aisle and shelf
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`Air outlet from bottom
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`Silencer
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`6 Piece 32A-three phase plugs
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`Power distribution overview
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`Measured air quantities:
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`Fans in delta operation (fast mode), filters clean:
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`27200m3/h (16 009cfm), 70Pa pressure difference between inside and outside
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`Fans in delta operation (fast mode), filters "dirty" (covered):
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`25502m3/h (15 009cfm), 140Pa pressure difference between inside and outside
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`Fans in delta operation (fast mode), filters very "dirty" (covered):
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`21482m3/h (12 643cfm), 190Pa pressure difference between inside and outside
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`Fans in star operation (slow mode), filters clean:
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`21205m3/h (12 480cfm), 50Pa pressure difference between inside and outside
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`Fans in star operation (slow mode), filters "dirty" (covered):
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`15301m3/h (9 005cfm), 140Pa pressure difference between inside and outside
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`The fans suck in the air from the front through the filters and push them over the silencers outside again - the
`noise level is surprisingly low!
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`The container can be loaded and unloaded without crane using the pictured pillars and an air-suspended truck
`only. (Almost all of the trucks in Europe have air suspension)
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`Prices are all net, without taxes (for commercial customers or export):
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`Base Price:
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`EUR 8900
`~US$ 10,200 at the time of writing
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`includes the adapted container, the fans installed but not wired, the filter and silencer
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`Fully flexible, adjustable shelf 3x 97cm wide, 60cm deep, ~2.3m high, 7 compartments
`Roughly 3x38inch wide, 23 inch deep and 7.5 foot high
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`EUR 1600
`~US$ 1,800
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`Electric installation (6 distributors with 32A 3-phase connection each, 114 C13 cables in total fused with 10A
`each, 6 three-fold "Schuko"-outlets fused with 16A, 2 motor protection switches for the fans, 2 lights with
`switch)
`Pictures and price of electric plant is for 230V and European regulations.
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`EUR 3600
`~US$ 4,100
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`Pillars zinc-plated (4 piece)
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`EUR 1600
`~US$ 1,800
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`Price as pictured ex Works Austria, EU: EUR 15700, ~US$ 18,000 at the time of writing
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`Lead time ~6 Weeks
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`Containers are made to order - fully customizable!
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`Thanks for your attention!
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`Re: Mining Container ~100kW by Polivka GmbH
`February 07, 2015, 12:24:28 PM
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`Re: Mining Container ~100kW by Polivka GmbH
`February 07, 2015, 12:37:37 PM
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` This would have been nice to have last year, but this year prices make it too costly. 100 kwatts are about 140
`s-5s since you have 114 plugs lets say it will do 114 s-5s' 114 x 1.15 th = 131 th
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`At 8 cents a kwatt . that 18000 usd unit take 81 days to pay off.
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`I have left the shipping price out.
`I have left the psu price out.
`I have left the s-5 price out.
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`I have frozen the diff at 42 and in 3 days it is going to 45
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`Ignore
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`I have to say it is a nice piece of gear .
`I would love to have filled with s-5's mining in a warehouse using some low cost power.
`Good luck selling it.
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`For now no signature.
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`Re: Mining Container ~100kW by Polivka GmbH
`February 07, 2015, 12:46:02 PM
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`Quote from: philipma1957 on February 07, 2015, 12:37:37 PM
` This would have been nice to have last year, but this year prices make it too costly. 100 kwatts are about 140 s-5s since you
`have 114 plug lets say it will do 114 s-5s' 114 x 1.15 th = 131 th
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`Costly compared to what? Ever asked for a quotation of a factory hall with all the cooling and power distribution?
`Also with this you are more flexible regarding the location.
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`I know mining calculations look not really good at the moment - guess why this thing is still empty...
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`Re: Mining Container ~100kW by Polivka GmbH
`February 07, 2015, 12:48:19 PM
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`I have a similar project in mind, but you beat me to it. Good work!
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`Re: Mining Container ~100kW by Polivka GmbH
`February 07, 2015, 12:51:00 PM
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`Quote from: Newar on February 07, 2015, 12:48:19 PM
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`I have a similar project in mind, but you beat me to it. Good work!
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`To be perfectly honest on this: these guy's beat me to it: http://cryptokube.com - they came out when I already
`purchased the container, however I think my concept is more suited for mining and less like traditional shipping
`container data centers.
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`Re: Mining Container ~100kW by Polivka GmbH
`February 07, 2015, 01:55:38 PM
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`Well you killed them on price it seems. It would just be too hard to recoup all the costs associated with this and
`the hardware during this time unfortunately.
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`Very well thought out piece of work though, well done.
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`Re: Mining Container ~100kW by Polivka GmbH
`February 07, 2015, 04:24:09 PM
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`Think about bracing the supports along the length of the container. Two additional pieces of square pipe won't
`cost a lot more.
`I don't want to be there when a little wind, like 6m/s (if placed outside) will literally put the mining box "on the
`ground".
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`http://www.yourspreadsheets.co.uk/wind-on-structures-analysis-to-ec-1.html
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`There is a free XLS there allowing you to do some wind calculations without printing or changing logos or
`something.
`Good enough to see how big the bracing should be.
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`Re: Mining Container ~100kW by Polivka GmbH
`February 07, 2015, 04:28:18 PM
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`It will win if you can find cheap electricity.
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` #9
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`Suggest this is perfect for farms with biogas generators waste heat from container can be cycled into digesters to
`help maintain higher digester ambient temperatures for spring fall and winter. Going "green" energy for this
`system would be viable. You could have a large number of smaller operators using this sort of system and
`pooling their resources.
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`This thread should be in Mining Hardware not Service Announcements.
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`Ignore
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`Did you receive your VAT invoice from Dogie within 30 days? No? File a report to the HMRC.
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`Re: Mining Container ~100kW by Polivka GmbH
`February 07, 2015, 04:32:42 PM
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`Quote from: wh00per on February 07, 2015, 04:24:09 PM
`Think about bracing the supports along the length of the container. Two additional pieces of square pipe won't cost a lot more.
`I don't want to be there when a little wind, like 6m/s (if placed outside) will literally put the mining box "on the ground".
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`http://www.yourspreadsheets.co.uk/wind-on-structures-analysis-to-ec-1.html
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`There are actually two things still waiting to be delivered: Some guy cabling from the pillars to the corners of the
`container and a canvas under the container to prevent a short circuit from the air outlet to the intake.
`As for the strength of the container itself: you can load >20to inside standing only on 4 corners.
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`Quote from: Bicknellski on February 07, 2015, 04:28:18 PM
`It will win if you can find cheap electricity.
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`Suggest this is perfect for farms with biogas generators waste heat from container can be cycled into digesters to help maintain
`higher digester ambient temperatures for spring fall and winter. Going "green" energy for this system would be viable. You could
`have a large number of smaller operators using this sort of system and pooling their resources.
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`This thread should be in Mining Hardware not Service Announcements.
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`Thanks. I already PM'ed ckolivas, who moved the thread - maybe he has mercy and reconsiders his decision. I
`guess a lot of interested people would miss it here.
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`As for the biogas generators: Don't they produce 2/3 of heat compared to electricity anyways? Do they need
`even more heat in the process?
`My company runs mining in water power plants in Austria - if the numbers align a bit more favorably I will put it
`near one and fill it up with miners. Any project propositions - just PM me.
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`Re: Mining Container ~100kW by Polivka GmbH
`February 07, 2015, 04:34:40 PM
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`I'd definitely question the strength of the leg supports. What's the empty (no miners) weight of the fully-outfitted
`container? Adding 114x S5 to the mix will increase the weight by a good 900lb. Have you the engineering figures
`on the strength of the attachments, shear strength of the bolts and drilled-out tube?
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`Curmudgeonly hardware
`guy
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`Also, is there an option to run C20 cables instead of C14? If we're looking for space density, 2KW and 2.8KW
`PSUs (as well as SP30 and up) require C20 cables.
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`Ignore
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`Re: Mining Container ~100kW by Polivka GmbH
`February 07, 2015, 04:39:10 PM
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` #12
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`Quote from: Polivka GmbH on February 07, 2015, 12:46:02 PM
`Quote from: philipma1957 on February 07, 2015, 12:37:37 PM
` This would have been nice to have last year, but this year prices make it too costly. 100 kwatts are about 140 s-5s since
`you have 114 plug lets say it will do 114 s-5s' 114 x 1.15 th = 131 th
`
`Costly compared to what? Ever asked for a quotation of a factory hall with all the cooling and power distribution? Also with this
`you are more flexible regarding the location.
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`Ignore
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`I know mining calculations look not really good at the moment - guess why this thing is still empty...
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`It's not that your price is costly compared to anything similar, it's just that the mining market is so saturated
`already that there is no hope for professional miners to succeed right now, unless 1) you live anywhere above
`the polar circle AND 2) have access to (preferably low-latency) internet AND 3) have access to hundreds of kW
`<$0.04 kWh AND last but not least, 4) have access to an investment capital >$100k.
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`OR, mum's garage and call "ROI" what would be like stealing from her wallet at night...
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`I have been mining for over a year at profit (GPUs then ASICs), even rented two dedicated room for this, found
`investors for the equipment and foolishly guaranteed their principal, now we have to cover for this from my own
`pocket and my associate's, just to recover our investors' principal (as we were not scammers, we didn't
`implement financial insulation like an LLC or something). It's so frustrating for many of us, really. But you know,
`lesson learned
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`Polivka GmbH
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`Re: Mining Container ~100kW by Polivka GmbH
`February 07, 2015, 04:41:27 PM
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`Hydromining!
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`Quote from: sidehack on February 07, 2015, 04:34:40 PM
`I'd definitely question the strength of the leg supports. What's the empty (no miners) weight of the fully-outfitted container?
`Adding 114x S5 to the mix will increase the weight by a good 900lb. Have you the engineering figures on the strength of the
`attachments, shear strength of the bolts and drilled-out tube?
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`Also, is there an option to run C20 cables instead of C14? If we're looking for space density, 2KW and 2.8KW PSUs (as well as
`SP30 and up) require C20 cables.
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`The pipe is 80x80x5mm. I had these made and dimensioned from a company licensed to do such things.
`The thread on the bolts and nuts is M30.
`The empty weight of a 20foot shipping container is 2.2tons. I didn't measure the weight of the fully outfitted
`container but I'm sure it's way below a ton without miners.
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`Any options for outfitting you wish. The cables are now C13, the female part which directly goes into the PSU. I
`have done this having SP20 in mind because of the better $/hash ratio and cheaply available second hand server
`PSU's.
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`Re: Mining Container ~100kW by Polivka GmbH
`February 07, 2015, 04:44:49 PM
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`Hydromining!
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`Quote from: matt4054 on February 07, 2015, 04:39:10 PM
`Quote from: Polivka GmbH on February 07, 2015, 12:46:02 PM
`Quote from: philipma1957 on February 07, 2015, 12:37:37 PM
` This would have been nice to have last year, but this year prices make it too costly. 100 kwatts are about 140 s-5s since
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`Ignore
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`you have 114 plug lets say it will do 114 s-5s' 114 x 1.15 th = 131 th
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`Mining Container ~100kW by Polivka GmbH
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`Costly compared to what? Ever asked for a quotation of a factory hall with all the cooling and power distribution? Also with
`this you are more flexible regarding the location.
`
`I know mining calculations look not really good at the moment - guess why this thing is still empty...
`
`It's not that your price is costly compared to anything similar, it's just that the mining market is so saturated already that there is
`no hope for professional miners to succeed right now, unless 1) you live anywhere above the polar circle AND 2) have access to
`(preferably low-latency) internet AND 3) have access to hundreds of kW <$0.04 kWh AND last but not least, 4) have access to an
`investment capital >$100k.
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`Everyone mining needs something providing shelter from the elements, cooling and power distribution. I believe
`this to be a very elegant and flexible solution and mining will somehow eventually continue.
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`cryptokube
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`Re: Mining Container ~100kW by Polivka GmbH
`February 07, 2015, 05:50:24 PM
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`Nice work! Great price!
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`Looks like a great product.
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`Can you just answer a couple of questions.
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`1. How do you get air through the filters when this is sitting on the ground?
`2. How do you change the filters when it is sitting on the ground?
`3. If it stays on the stilts how do you enter the unit? Cargo doors with ladder?
`4. If you open the cargo doors in a snow storm and go inside how do you close the doors to do your work
`without getting snow and weather blowing in?
`5. How do you keep condensation from forming and dripping on the machines?
`
`I love to talk with you sometime and compare notes. We could even maybe highlight your product on our page
`so EU customers have an option.
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`I wish you much success.
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`Doug
`cryptokube.com
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`Polivka GmbH
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`Re: Mining Container ~100kW by Polivka GmbH
`February 07, 2015, 06:00:19 PM
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`Hydromining!
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`Quote from: cryptokube on February 07, 2015, 05:50:24 PM
`Nice work! Great price!
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`Looks like a great product.
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`Can you just answer a couple of questions.
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`1. How do you get air through the filters when this is sitting on the ground?
`2. How do you change the filters when it is sitting on the ground?
`3. If it stays on the stilts how do you enter the unit? Cargo doors with ladder?
`4. If you open the cargo doors in a snow storm and go inside how do you close the doors to do your work without getting snow
`and weather blowing in?
`5. How do you keep condensation from forming and dripping on the machines?
`
`I love to talk with you sometime and compare notes. We could even maybe highlight your product on our page so EU customers
`have an option.
`
`I wish you much success.
`
`Doug
`cryptokube.com
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`Thanks!
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`It's not meant to be run without the stilts, or anything else holding it up if you don't wish to purchase them (in
`case you don't intend moving it anyways).
`You can buy a ladder from me - tailored to the container, however you probably want to solve that problem
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`yourself because of the price...
`It's possible to lean the door to the sealing from the inside.
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`I prevent condensation the same way you do - heating the inside by means of bitcoin miners
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`Re: Mining Container ~100kW by Polivka GmbH
`February 07, 2015, 06:58:58 PM
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`This is simply amazing.
`-GREAT- job!
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`I know this doesn't have much practical use with today's prices, but this concept is brilliant.
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`One question that I didn't see explained, why do you have the air vented out from the bottom of the container
`instead of the top?
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`Re: Mining Container ~100kW by Polivka GmbH
`February 07, 2015, 07:08:51 PM
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`Hydromining!
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`Quote from: Lloydimiller4 on February 07, 2015, 06:58:58 PM
`This is simply amazing.
`-GREAT- job!
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`I know this doesn't have much practical use with today's prices, but this concept is brilliant.
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`One question that I didn't see explained, why do you have the air vented out from the bottom of the container instead of the top?
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`Hi. Thanks for the flowers
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`I didn't want to injure the outside skin. Also water-proof silencers are much more expensive.
`It would be nice to suck in the air from the top, but also rain comes that way so I abandoned that idea
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`philipma1957
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`Re: Mining Container ~100kW by Polivka GmbH
`February 07, 2015, 10:36:36 PM
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`Quote from: Polivka GmbH on February 07, 2015, 07:08:51 PM
`Quote from: Lloydimiller4 on February 07, 2015, 06:58:58 PM
`This is simply amazing.
`-GREAT- job!
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`I know this doesn't have much practical use with today's prices, but this concept is brilliant.
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`One question that I didn't see explained, why do you have the air vented out from the bottom of the container instead of the
`top?
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`Hi. Thanks for the flowers
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`I didn't want to injure the outside skin. Also water-proof silencers are much more expensive.
`It would be nice to suck in the air from the top, but also rain comes that way so I abandoned that idea
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`yeah you built a really nice piece of gear. It is too costly because buying 114 s-5's or 114 sp20's don't put you
`ahead of the curve due to the terrible price of BTC.
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`If I could get this miner
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`https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=944406.0
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`It would work. this miner does not exist . putting 114 s-5's or sp20 in that crate won't pay off.
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`Now if I had cheap power yeah maybe.
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`I do like the build.
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`Mining Container ~100kW by Polivka GmbH
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`topminingcontracts
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`Re: Mining Container ~100kW by Polivka GmbH
`February 07, 2015, 11:28:49 PM
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`Quote from: Polivka GmbH on February 07, 2015, 07:08:51 PM
`Quote from: Lloydimiller4 on February 07, 2015, 06:58:58 PM
`This is simply amazing.
`-GREAT- job!
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` #20
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`I know this doesn't have much practical use with today's prices, but this concept is brilliant.
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`One question that I didn't see explained, why do you have the air vented out from the bottom of the container instead of the
`top?
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`Ignore
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`Hi. Thanks for the flowers
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`I didn't want to injure the outside skin. Also water-proof silencers are much more expensive.
`It would be nice to suck in the air from the top, but also rain comes that way so I abandoned that idea
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`I think is a nice concept.
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`In my opinion needs to improve the airflow a cold area with positive pressure and a hot area with negative
`pressure and density unless is able to handle 400 KW is not very efficient. I am totally sure can fit more miners
`inside a container even using racks, I support the concept and is a nice Idea I would buy.
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`Regards
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`Bicknellski
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`Re: Mining Container ~100kW by Polivka GmbH
`February 08, 2015, 08:13:48 AM
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`Quote from: Polivka GmbH on February 07, 2015, 04:32:42 PM
`Quote from: wh00per on February 07, 2015, 04:24:09 PM
`Think about bracing the supports along the length of the container. Two additional pieces of square pipe won't cost a lot more.
`I don't want to be there when a little wind, like 6m/s (if placed outside) will literally put the mining box "on the ground".
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`http://www.yourspreadsheets.co.uk/wind-on-structures-analysis-to-ec-1.html
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`There are actually two things still waiting to be delivered: Some guy cabling from the pillars to the corners of the container and a
`canvas under the container to prevent a short circuit from the air outlet to the intake.
`As for the strength of the container itself: you can load >20to inside standing only on 4 corners.
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`Quote from: Bicknellski on February 07, 2015, 04:28:18 PM
`It will win if you can find cheap electricity.
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`Suggest this is perfect for farms with biogas generators waste heat from container can be cycled into digesters to help
`maintain higher digester ambient temperatures for spring fall and winter. Going "green" energy for this system would be
`viable. You could have a large number of smaller operators using this sort of system and pooling their resources.
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`This thread should be in Mining Hardware not Service Announcements.
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`Thanks. I already PM'ed ckolivas, who moved the thread - maybe he has mercy and reconsiders his decision. I guess a lot of
`interested people would miss it here.
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`As for the biogas generators: Don't they produce 2/3 of heat compared to electricity anyways? Do they need even more heat in
`the process?
`My company runs mining in water power plants in Austria - if the numbers align a bit more favorably I will put it near one and fill
`it up with miners. Any project propositions - just PM me.
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`In colder climates an issue is often to maintain heat in the digestor tanks and they often have to be buried and
`insulated as you may know heat loss can lower gas production.
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`http://acep.uaf.edu/media/50756/ACEP_ResourceOverview_Biogas.pdf
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`Thermophilic — Between 49˚–57°C (120°–134°F)
`Mesophilic — Between 20˚–45°C (68˚–113°F)
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`Psychrophilic — At or below 20°C (≤68°F)
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`Conversion of biomass to biogas is greatly accelerated at
`warm temperatures, falls off sharply at low temperatures
`and is almost nominal below 15°C (59°F). Most
`commercial and industrial biogas facilities in operation
`today maintain a stable temperature conducive to the
`specific microbial community that they utilize. Often
`this involves additional heat inputs to maintain high
`microbial metabolic rates and system performance.
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`Polivka GmbH
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`Re: Mining Container ~100kW by Polivka GmbH
`February 08, 2015, 08:20:14 AM
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`Hydromining!
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`Quote from: topminingcontracts on February 07, 2015, 11:28:49 PM
`I think is a nice concept.
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`In my opinion needs to improve the airflow a cold area with positive pressure and a hot area with negative pressure and density
`unless is able to handle 400 KW is not very efficient. I am totally sure can fit more miners inside a container even using racks, I
`support the concept and is a nice Idea I would buy.
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`Thanks.
`We put a lot of time and thinking into the inner layout and airflow design of this. Main problem is that the
`container will probably live trough more than one miner generation - so it is impossible to tell how exactly they
`will look like.
`If I know that I'll fill this thing up with SP35's only I would have done a different layout. But given the premium
`for Spondoolies rack hardware and the quality of BITMAIN 19 inch miners I wanted to stay flexible.
`400kW air-cooled on 3m of shelving is a little optimistic.... however, with SP35 maybe possible, didn't run the
`numbers.
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`Quote from: philipma1957 on February 07, 2015, 10:36:36 PM
`If I could get this miner
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`https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=944406.0
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`It would work. this miner does not exist . putting 114 s-5's or sp20 in that crate won't pay off.
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`Hi. Thanks also.
`I know investing in mining does look horrible at the moment, even with cheap power and all that.
`You can't write off the container in 3 month, like you might still be used to calculate when evaluating a mining
`invest. Most home miners already have a power outlet and don't need to build anything to get rid of the heat
`from one miner.
`On a bigger scale this also causes costs, and not to little of it. You can't avoid it if you want to have cheap power
`- it doesn't come to you, you must move to it.
`Therefore a mobile solution is a nice thing to have. You find a place with even much cheaper power? Not an
`issue, truck comes tomorrow.
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`Re: Mining Container ~100kW by Polivka GmbH
`February 08, 2015, 08:24:59 AM
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`Hydromining!
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`Quote from: Bicknellski on February 08, 2015, 08:13:48 AM
`In colder climates an issue is often to maintain heat in the digestor tanks and they often have to be buried and insulated as you
`may know heat loss can lower gas production.
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`http://acep.uaf.edu/media/50756/ACEP_ResourceOverview_Biogas.pdf
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`Quote
`Thermophilic — Between 49˚–57°C (120°–134°F)
`Mesophilic — Between 20˚–45°C (68˚–113°F)
`Psychrophilic — At or below 20°C (≤68°F)
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`Quote
`Conversion of biomass to biogas is greatly accelerated at
`warm temperatures, falls off sharply at low temperatures
`and is almost nominal below 15°C (59°F). Most
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`Mining Container ~100kW by Polivka GmbH
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`commercial and industrial biogas facilities in operation
`today maintain a stable temperature conducive to the
`specific microbial community that they utilize. Often
`this involves additional heat inputs to maintain high
`microbial metabolic rates and system performance.
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`I guess this is for gas production only - as soon as you use the gas in a combustion engine to produce electricity
`you should have heat in abundance.
`In Austria some of the biogas electricity plants also offer the service of drying wood chips with the excess heat -
`I'm not an expert on the biogas field, but we have been thinking on offering the wood-chip drying with miner
`heat for a second...
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`Re: Mining Container ~100kW by Polivka GmbH
`February 08, 2015, 04:36:43 PM
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`Quote from: Shazam!!! on February 08, 2015, 04:32:44 PM
`Quote from: Polivka GmbH on February 07, 2015, 12:11:27 PM
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`Right aisle and shelf
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`http://i.imgur.com/nAEMRWf.jpg
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`Are the shelves gonna be able to handle the heat from the miners???
`Heaven forbid if one of them burns up and takes the rest with them.
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`Have you got any idea about the fire handling capabilities of building grade MDF?
`I doubt even an exploding prisma can set any kind of noticeable fire on MDF .... well at least MDF manufactured
`in Germany / for EU use.
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`Re: Mining Container ~100kW by Polivka GmbH
`February 08, 2015, 04:41:42 PM
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`That one Guy!!!
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`Quote from: pekatete on February 08, 2015, 04:36:43 PM
`Quote from: Shazam!!! on February 08, 2015, 04:32:44 PM
`Quote from: Polivka GmbH on February 07, 2015, 12:11:27 PM
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`Right aisle and shelf
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`http://i.imgur.com/nAEMRWf.jpg
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`Are the shelves gonna be able to handle the heat from the miners???
`Heaven forbid if one of them burns up and takes the rest with them.
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`Have you got any idea about the fire handling capabilities of building grade MDF?
`I doubt even an exploding prisma can set any kind of noticeable fire on MDF .... well at least MDF manufactured in Germany / for
`EU use.
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`No I do not know...That's why I asked. It looks like there is a lot of airflow
`so the shelves should only get warm to the touch. Just wondered about higher temps.
`Thanx for the info.
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`▲▼ Shazam!!! ▲▼
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`Polivka GmbH
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`Re: Mining Container ~100kW by Polivka GmbH
`February 08, 2015, 05:18:58 PM
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`Hydromining!
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`Quote from: Shazam!!! on February 08, 2015, 04:41:42 PM
`Quote from: pekatete on February 08, 2015, 04:36:43 PM
`Quote from: Shazam!!! on February 08, 2015, 04:32:44 PM
`Quote from: Polivka GmbH on February 07, 2015, 12:11:27 PM
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`Right aisle and shelf
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`http://i.imgur.com/nAEMRWf.jpg
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`Are the shelves gonna be able to handle the heat from the miners???
`Heaven forbid if one of them burns up and takes the rest with them.
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`https:/