Petitioner CommScope’s
`Trial Hearing Demonstratives
`
`CommScope Technologies LLC,
`Petitioner
`v.
`Belden, Inc.,
`Patent Owner
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`IPR2023-01062 (’095 patent)
`IPR2023-01061 (’537 patent)
`
`September 23, 2024
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`
`Trial Hearing Demonstratives
`
`CommScope Technologies LLC,
`Petitioner
`v.
`Belden, Inc.,
`Patent Owner
`
`IPR2023-01062 (’095 patent)
`IPR2023-01061 (’537 patent)
`
`September 23, 2024
`
`
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`Communications cables
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`-01062 IPR: Petition (Paper 1), 3-4
`-01061 IPR: [see also Petition (Paper 2), 6]
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`Slide 2
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`The Instituted Grounds
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`’095 patent, claims 27-33
`(IPR2023-01062)
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`’537 patent, claims 19-20, 22
`(IPR2023-01061)
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`Slide 3
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`IPR2023-01062
`IPR2023-01062
`(’095 Patent IPR)
`(7095 Patent IPR)
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`IPR2023-01062
`(’095 Patent IPR)
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`Grounds 1, 5: Roberts-based
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`Roberts and twisted pairs (Grounds 1, 5)
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`-01062 IPR (’095 patent)
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`“pairs” of a “conventional telephone cable design”
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`(Ex-1009, Abstract)
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`(Ex-1009, Fig. 17)
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 1, 20-22; Paper 29, 3-6
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`Roberts and twisted pairs (Grounds 1, 5)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`“Pairs” of a “conventional telephone cable design”
`o Testimony of Ken Cornelison (40+ years industry experience)
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`Ex-1007:
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`Ex-1081:
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 1, 20-22; Paper 29, 3-6
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`Slide 7
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`DEMONSTRATIVE EXHIBIT – NOT EVIDENCE
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`Roberts and twisted pairs (Grounds 1, 5)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`“Pairs” of a “conventional telephone cable design”
`o Testimony of Ken Cornelison (40+ years industry experience)
`o Corroborating documents, e.g.
`Ex-1020, 1:34-39, 2:31-34, 2:55-59 (1924)
`•
`Ex-1021, 1:13-17, 1:43-47 (1929)
`•
`Ex-1014, 1:30-32 (1973)
`•
`Ex-1024, 4:18-23 (1979)
`•
`Ex-1016, 7 (1987)
`•
`Ex-1023, 1:4-7 (1991)
`•
`Ex-1018, 3 (1992)
`•
`Ex-1019, 1:10-11 (1992)
`•
`Ex-1029, 33 (1997)
`•
`Ex-1072, 1, 12, 18 38-39 (ANSI 1995 standard)
`•
`Ex-1073, 12 13 (REA 1993 specification)
`•
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`Ex-1081:
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`[…]
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 1, 20-22; Paper 29, 3-6; Ex-1007, ¶¶33-35, 113-119; Ex-1081, ¶¶15-20
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`Roberts and twisted pairs (Grounds 1, 5)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`“Disturbing circuit” and “disturbed circuit” on “opposite sides of shield”
`Roberts (Ex-1009, 3:21-38, 13:10-29):
`Jachimowicz-340 (Ex-1022, col. 1):
`Cornelison (Ex-1007, ¶115):
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`[…]
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`[…]
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 1, 20-22; Paper 29, 3-6, 10; Ex-1007, ¶¶33-35, 113-119; Ex-1081, ¶¶15-20, 37
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`Roberts and twisted pairs (Grounds 1, 5)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Manufacturing process uses “twisted” conductors
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`Roberts (Ex-1009, 11:70-12:12 and Fig. 23):
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 1, 21-22; Paper 29, 11; Ex-1007, ¶¶116, 93-94; Ex-1081, ¶41
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`Roberts and twisted pairs (Grounds 1, 5)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Manufacturing process uses “twisted” conductors
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`AT&T Electronic Wire and Cable
`User’s Guide (Ex-1016, 9):
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 1, 21-22; Paper 29, 11; Ex-1007, ¶116; Ex-1081, ¶41
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`Slide 11
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`Roberts and twisted pairs (Grounds 1, 5)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Images of twisted pair cable
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`Side view:
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 29, 10-11
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`Slide 12
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`Cornelison (Ex-1081), ¶39
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`Roberts and twisted pairs (Grounds 1, 5)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Images of twisted pair cable
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`Cross-sectional view:
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`Cornelison (Ex-1081), ¶40
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 29, 10-11
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`Roberts and twisted pairs (Grounds 1, 5)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Images of twisted pair cable
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 1, 22; Paper 29, 10-11
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`Slide 14
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`Roberts and twisted pairs (Grounds 1, 5)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Both experts agree: single wire = high emission
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`twisted pair = low emission
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`(Eldering (Ex-2007) ¶¶145-147)
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`(Cornelison (Ex-1081) ¶¶27-28)
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 29, 6-7
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`Roberts and twisted pairs (Grounds 1, 5)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Eldering’s interpretation of Roberts=>“effectively nonfunctional”:
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`(Cornelison (Ex-1081) ¶¶30-31, 70, 73)
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 29, 8, 25-27
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`Roberts and twisted pairs (Grounds 1, 5)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Eldering testimony (Ex-1070, 138:10-16):
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`Eldering testimony (Ex-1070, 47:12-48:8):
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 29, 25-26
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`Roberts and twisted pairs (Grounds 1, 5)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Roberts actually discloses:
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 29, 8-10, 25-28
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`Slide 18
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`(Cornelison (EX-1081) ¶36)
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`Roberts and twisted pairs (Grounds 1, 5)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Reeve Telecommunications Handbook (Ex-1017),
`“Compartmental core”/“screened” telephone cable:
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`(Ex-1017, 30)
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`(Ex-1017, 35)
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`Slide 19
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 29, 9-10
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`Roberts and twisted pairs (Grounds 1, 5)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`(Ex-1016, 7)
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`(Ex-1017, 18)
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`(Ex-1035, 20)
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 1, 22; Paper 29, 8-9,
`25-56; Ex-1081, ¶65
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`Slide 20
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`(Ex-1029, 25)
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`Roberts and twisted pairs (Grounds 1, 5)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Patent Owner’s evidence: Ex-2005, Ex-2006, Eldering
`o Ex-2005 (Lemke)
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`Ex-1081 (Cornelison decl.):
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 29, 5-6
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`Slide 21
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`Roberts and twisted pairs (Grounds 1, 5)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Patent Owner’s evidence: Ex-2006, Ex-2007, Eldering
`o Ex-2005 (Lemke)
`o Ex-2006 (Watts)
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`Ex-1081 (Cornelison decl.):
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 29, 10-11
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`Slide 22
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`Roberts and twisted pairs (Grounds 1, 5)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Patent Owner’s evidence: Ex-2006, Ex-2007, Eldering
`o Ex-2006
`o Ex-2007
`o Eldering
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`(Ex-1070, 27:17-28:3)
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`(Ex-1070, 142:13-21)
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`(Ex-1070, 42:15-20)
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`(Ex-1070, 125:14-126-11)
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 29, 3, 8-9
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`Slide 23
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`Roberts and twisted pairs (Grounds 1, 5)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Patent Owner’s evidence: Ex-2006, Ex-2007, Eldering
`o Ex-2006
`o Ex-2007
`o Eldering
`twisted pairs = purported
`•
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`increased cable “size” and
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`“lower flexibility”
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`Cornelison (40+ years industry experience), Ex-1081, ¶¶70-77:
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`•
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`twisted pairs = purportedly
`“more complex cable
`termination solution”
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 29, 3, 27-28
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`Slide 24
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`Roberts and twisted pairs (Grounds 1, 5)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Patent Owner’s contention that Mr. Cornelison’s explanation of why conventional
`telephone cable = twisted pairs is "made-up and unsupported” (Paper 33, 4-5)
`Petitioner evidence includes
`Patent Owner evidence
`Cornelison testimony (40+ years industry experience), Ex-1081, ¶¶25-37,
`• Eldering uncorroborated testimony
`Ex-1007, ¶¶35, 37-38
`[No examples provided]
`Eldering: twisted pair emission = “less than [] single conductor” (Ex-2007, ¶146)
`Ex-1016, 7:
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`Ex-1017, 18:
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`Ex-1035, 20:
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`Ex-1029, 25:
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`Ex-1014, 1:24-30:
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`Ex-1030, at 4-5
`-01062 IPR: Paper 1, 2; Paper 29 , 8-9, 25-27; Ex-1007, ¶¶36-38; Ex-1081, ¶¶65-69
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`Slide 25
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`IPR2023-01062
`(’095 Patent IPR)
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`Ground 3: GmbH-866 (claims 27-29)
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`GmbH-866 and twisted pairs (Ground 3)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 1, 43; Paper 29, 15-19
`[Also] -01061 IPR (‘537 patent): Paper 2, 58-59; Paper 30, 20-27
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`Slide 27
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`GmbH-866 and twisted pairs (Ground 3)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`(Ex-1010, 2, 3)
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 1, 43; Paper 29, 15-19
`[Also] -01061 IPR (‘537 patent): Paper 2, 58-59; Paper 30, 20-27
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`Slide 28
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`GmbH-866 and twisted pairs (Ground 3)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Expert Ken Cornelison
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`Ex-2004, 215:15-216:7 (re-direct)
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`Ex-1081:
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 29, 17
`[Also] -01061 IPR (‘537 patent): Paper 30, 25
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`Slide 29
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`GmbH-866 and twisted pairs
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`Examiner finding (‘537 Patent Reexamination) (Ex-1006, 19-20)
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`-01061 IPR (‘537 patent): Paper 3, 11-12
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`Slide 30
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`GmbH-866 and twisted pairs (Ground 3)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 29, 19
`[Also] -01061 IPR (‘537 patent): Paper 30, 26
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`Slide 31
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`GmbH-866 and twisted pairs (Ground 3)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 29, 20
`[Also] -01061 IPR (‘537 patent): Paper 30, 26-27
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`Slide 32
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`GmbH-866 and twisted pairs (Ground 3)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Patent Owner’s prior position (Statement of Admitted Facts) (Ex-1076, 2, 6):
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 29, 12-14
`[Also] -01061 IPR (‘537 patent): Paper 30, 21-22
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`Slide 33
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`DEMONSTRATIVE EXHIBIT – NOT EVIDENCE
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`GmbH-866 and twisted pairs (Ground 3)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Patent Owner’s prior position (Trial transcript) (Ex-1063, 1360:19-20):
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 29, 13
`[Also] -01061 IPR (‘537 patent): Paper 30, 21-22
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`Slide 34
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`GmbH-866 and twisted pairs (Ground 3)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Patent Owner’s prior position (Motion for Summary Judgment) (Ex-1061, 11):
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 29, 13
`[Also] -01061 IPR (‘537 patent): Paper 30, 21-22
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`Slide 35
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`GmbH-866 and twisted pairs (Ground 3)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Patent Owner’s prior position (Interrogatory response) (Ex-1077, 31-32):
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 29, 13
`[Also] -01061 IPR (‘537 patent): Paper 30, 21-22
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`Slide 36
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`GmbH-866 and twisted pairs (Ground 3)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Patent Owner’s prior position (Inter partes Reexamination) (Ex-1059, 21):
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 29, 13
`[Also] -01061 IPR (‘537 patent): Paper 30, 21-22 (see Ex-1058, 69, reexamination of ‘537 patent)
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`Slide 37
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`GmbH-866 and twisted pairs (Ground 3)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`The translations:
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`Ex-1010, 3:
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`Ex-1057, 4:
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 29, 14
`[Also] -01061 IPR (‘537 patent): Paper 30, 22-23
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`Slide 38
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`GmbH-866 and twisted pairs (Ground 3)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`The translations:
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 29, 14-15
`[Also] -01061 IPR (‘537 patent): Paper 30, 22-23
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`Slide 39
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`IPR2023-01062
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`Ground 7: Yanagita (claims 27-29)
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`Yanagita and twisted pairs (Ground 7)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Prior district court case,
`PO interrogatory response (‘537 patent):
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`Prior inter partes reexamination (‘537 patent),
`examiner finding:
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`(Ex-1077, 48)
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`(Ex-1058, 57)
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 27, 20-21; Paper 7, 2
`[Also] -01061 IPR (‘537 patent): Paper 30, 14-15; Paper 7, 2
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`Slide 41
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`Yanagita and twisted pairs (Ground 7)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Ex-1012, 1:
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`Ex-1055, 1:
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`Detailed Explanation of the Invention
`The present invention relates to a favorable alternatedly stranded
`cable; more specifically, it relates to an altematedly stranded cable
`that prevents the unraveling of wire twisting. As communications
`cable, there is a tendency to use a plurality of either insulated
`element wires or else stranded pairs or stranded quad of such, or
`otherwise to use so-called alternatedly stranded cable with which
`units of the wires are stranded in a manner so that the stranding
`direction is reversed at points in time within a fixed cycle.
`However, with such types of cable, in particular when tensile force
`is applied in the longitudinal direction prior to conducting cable
`sheathing, a problem occurs in that the stranded cable core
`becomes unraveled; in order to prevent this, various contrivances
`have been attempted, but these have all turned out to be
`problematic from the standpoint of practical application.
` This invention has been developed in consideration of these
`points; its first invention
`
`-01062 IPR: Paper 1, 64-66 and Paper 29, 20-23 Ex-1007, ¶¶100, 257-258; Ex-1081, ¶58
`[Also] -01061 IPR (‘537 patent): Paper 2, 39-40 ; Paper 30, 15-17
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`Slide 42
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`Yanagita and twisted pairs (Ground 7)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`(Ex-1081, ¶61)
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 1, 64-66 and Paper 29, 20-22; Ex-1007, ¶¶100, 257-258; Ex-1081, ¶¶59-62
`[Also] -01061 IPR (‘537 patent): Paper 2, 39-40 ; Paper 30, 15-17; Ex-1080, ¶¶47-51
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`Slide 43
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`Yanagita and twisted pairs (Ground 7)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Patent Owner’s incomplete quote:
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`The full quote and context:
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`“for an illustrated embodiment, 1 is an insulated wire or
`that wherein insulated wires are twisted together, laid
`divided onto both sides of a core material 2, . . .”
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`“first invention thereof is an alternatingly twisted cable
`wherein a large number of insulated wire strands, or that
`wherein the insulated wire strands are twisted together,
`are laid, while twisting along the surfaces, along both
`surfaces of a core material..””
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`“1. An alternatingly twisted cable obtained through
`laying, while twisting along a surface of a core material,
`a large number of insulated wires, or that wherein
`insulated wires are twisted together, on both surfaces of
`a core material…”
`(Ex-1012, 1 col. 1 and col. 2 claim 1)
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`(PO’s Paper 33 (sur-reply), 9)
`(see also Paper 34 (-01061 IPR sur-reply), 14)
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`Yanagita and twisted pairs (Ground 7)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Implausible to read Yanagita as only bundles of wires all twisted together
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`(Ex-1007, ¶34)
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`(Ex-1020, 2:55-59)
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`(Ex-1014, 1:30-32)
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 29, 23; Ex-1007, ¶¶64, 33-35, 257-258; Ex-1081, ¶¶64, 15, 19
`-01061 IPR: Paper 30, 17
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`Slide 45
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`(Ex-1081, ¶64)
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`Anticipation
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Acoustic Tech., Inc. v. Itron Networked Sols., Inc., 949 F.3d
`1366, 1373 (Fed. Cir. 2020):
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 29, 9
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`IPR2023-01062
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`Grounds 2, 4, 8: Foamed
`polymer claims
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`Foamed polymer claims, 30-33 (Grounds 2, 4, 8)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Prior reexaminations and foamed polymer limitations:
`Reexamination of ’095
`(“foamed polymer tape” element):
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`Reexamination of ’537
`(claims 19-22):
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`[. . .]
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`(Ex-1003, 17-19)
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`(Ex-1006, 21-23)
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 1, 31-32
`[Also] -01061 IPR (‘537 patent): Paper 2, 11-12
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`Slide 48
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`Foamed polymer claims, 30-33 (Grounds 2, 4, 8)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Gingue
`(Ex-1013, 3:20-26, 4:5-39):
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`[. . .]
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`[. . .]
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 1, 32-38 ; Paper 29, 28-31
`[Also] -01061 IPR (‘537 patent): Paper 2, 40-44; Paper 30, 13-14
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`Slide 49
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`Foamed polymer claims, 30-33 (Grounds 2, 4, 8)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Jachimowicz
`(Ex-1014, 2:46-50):
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 1, 32-38 ; Paper 29, 28-31
`[Also] -01061 IPR (‘537 patent): Paper 2, 40-44; Paper 30, 13-14
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`Slide 50
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`Foamed polymer claims, 30-33 (Grounds 2, 4, 8)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Jachimowicz (Ex-1014, 2:46-60, 3:50-57):
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`Cornelison (Ex-1081) ¶83:
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 29, 31
`[Also] -01061 IPR (‘537 patent): Paper 30, 5-7, 13-14; Ex-1080, ¶¶22-28, 45
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`Slide 51
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`Foamed polymer claims, 30-33 (Grounds 2, 4, 8)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Cornelison (Ex-1007) ¶280:
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`Cornelison (Ex-2004, 102:20-103:13):
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`Eldering (Ex-1070, 213:2-214:1):
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`Cornelison (Ex-1081), ¶84:
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 1, 33-39, 52-58, 72-76; Paper 29, 28-31
` Ex-1007 ¶¶141-158, 162-163, 205-225, 280; Ex-1081, ¶¶81-85
`[Also] -01061 IPR (‘537 patent): Paper 2, 28-29, 40-41; Paper 30, 5-7, 13-14
`Ex-1007, ¶¶81, 93, 96, 107, 134; Ex-1080, ¶¶22-28, 45
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`Foamed polymer claims, 30-33 (Grounds 2, 4, 8)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`-01062 IPR: Paper 29, 30: Ex-1081, ¶85
`[Also] -01061 IPR (‘537 patent): Paper 30, 7, 13-14
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`IPR2023-01061
`IPR2023-01061
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`(537 Patent IPR)
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`IPR2023-01061
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`Ground 1: Beggs + Jachimowicz
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`Beggs + Jachimowicz, claim 19 (Ground 1)
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`-01061 IPR (‘537 patent)
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`Beggs (Ex-1015)
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`[. . .]
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`-01061 IPR: Paper 2, 21-22, 24-27
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`(Ex-1015, 6:1-14, 6:52-56)
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`Beggs + Jachimowicz, claim 19 (Ground 1)
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`-01061 IPR (‘537 patent)
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`Beggs (Ex-1015)
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`-01061 IPR: Paper 2, 27; Paper 30, 4-5
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`Slide 57
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`(Ex-1015, 6:1-14, 6:52-56)
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`Beggs + Jachimowicz, claim 19 (Ground 1)
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`-01061 IPR (‘537 patent)
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`Beggs (Ex-1015)
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`-01061 IPR: Paper 2, 24-27
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`Cornelison (Ex-1007, ¶¶87-88)
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`Beggs + Jachimowicz, claim 19 (Ground 1)
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`-01061 IPR (‘537 patent)
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`Beggs (Ex-1015)
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`Cornelison (Ex-1007, ¶¶91-92)
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`-01061 IPR: Paper 2, 26-27
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`Beggs + Jachimowicz, claim 19 (Ground 1)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Jachimowicz (Ex-1014)
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`(Ex-1014, 2:50-54)
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`-01061 IPR: Paper 2, 27-31; Paper 30, 5-7
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`Cornelison (Ex-1007, ¶81, ¶¶93-98; Ex-1080, ¶¶18-28 )
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`Beggs + Jachimowicz, claim 19 (Ground 1)
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`-01062 IPR (‘095 patent)
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`Beggs: Separator can be “S-shaped preform 58,” that has flat surfaces (Ex-
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`1015 ,6:9-11, Fig. 7)
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`Beggs: S-shaped preform 58 may be replaced with a dielectric “tape”
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`(“S-shaped preform 58 in FIG. 7 may be replaced with a tape which is
`made of a dieletric material”) (Ex-1015, 6:52-56)
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`Beggs: Preform can be foamed polymer (“the preform may be comprised of a
`solid or expanded polyvinyl chloride plastic material”) (Ex-1015, 6:1-3)
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`(Ex-1007, ¶87)
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`Jachimowicz:
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`foamed polymer tape can consist of two materials (“tape made of
`foamed thermoplastic supported by a film such as Mylar”)
`(Ex-1014, 2:51-54)
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`-01061 IPR: Paper 2, 25-29; Paper 30, 5-7
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`Beggs + Jachimowicz, claim 19 (Ground 1)
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`-01061 IPR (‘537 patent)
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`Motivations
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`Cornelison testimony
`(Ex-1007, ¶¶92-107)
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`-01061 IPR: Paper 2, 27-32; Paper 30, 8-13
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`Beggs + Jachimowicz, claim 19 (Ground 1)
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`-01061 IPR (‘537 patent)
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`Patent Owner Response “rigidity”
`argument (Paper 20, 29) :
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`Cornelison testimony (Ex-1080, ¶¶30-31):
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`-01061 IPR: Paper 30, 8-9
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`IPR2023-01061
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`Ground 2: Ground 1 (Beggs + Jachimowicz) + Gingue
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`Ground 4: Ground 3 (Yanagita + Jachimowicz) + Gingue
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`Claims 20 and 22, Grounds 1 and 3 Further in view of Gingue (Grounds 2, 4)
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`-01061 IPR (‘537 patent)
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`Claim 20: "The communications cable as claimed in claim 19, wherein the substantially
`flat configurable dielectric separator includes a flame-retardant, low-dielectric
`constant, foamed polymer tape."
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`Claim 22: "The communications cable as claimed in claim 19, wherein the substantially
`flat configurable dielectric separator is a flame-retardant, foamed polymer tape."
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`-01061 IPR: EX-1004, Claims 20 and 22.
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`Claims 20 and 22, Grounds 1 and 3 Further in view of Gingue (Grounds 2, 4)
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`-01061 IPR (‘537 patent)
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`-01061 IPR: Paper 2 at 36; see also id. at 45-46.
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`-01061 IPR (‘537 patent)
`Claims 20 and 22, Grounds 1 and 3 Further in view of Gingue (Grounds 2, 4)
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`Gingue (Ex-1013):
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`[. . .]
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`[. . .]
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`-01061 IPR: EX-1013 at 1:1-15, 3:20-35, 4:5-39; Paper 2 at 32-38, 45-47.
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`Claims 20 and 22, Grounds 1 and 3 Further in view of Gingue (Grounds 2, 4)
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`-01061 IPR (‘537 patent)
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`“flame-retardant”
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`Gingue at 3:20-26
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`Gingue at 2:1-14
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`Gingue at 4:32-44
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`-01061 IPR: EX-1013 at 2:1-14, 3:20-26, 4:32-4; Paper 2 at 34-38, 45-47.
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`Slide 68
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`Claims 20 and 22, Grounds 1 and 3 Further in view of Gingue (Grounds 2, 4)
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`-01061 IPR (‘537 patent)
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`“low-dielectric constant”
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`Jachimowicz at 2:46-54
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`Cornelison Decl., ¶44
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`Gingue at 2:1-14
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`Gingue at 3:20-26
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`-01061 IPR: EX-1014 at 2:46-54; EX-1007, ¶44; EX-1013 at 2:1-14, 3:20-26; Paper 2 at 35-38, 45-47. Slide 69
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`Claims 20 and 22, Grounds 1 and 3 Further in view of Gingue (Grounds 2, 4)
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`-01061 IPR (‘537 patent)
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`Gingue at 3:20-26
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`-01061 IPR: EX-1013 at 3:20-26; Paper 2 at 34-38, 45-47.
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`IPR2023-01061
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`Ground 5: GmbH-866 + Roberts, Gingue, Jachimowicz
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`-01061 IPR (‘537 patent)
`Obviousness in view of GmbH-866 + Roberts, Gingue, Jachimowicz (Ground 5)
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`Previous Reexamination of ‘537 Patent (No. 95/000,476)
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`-01061 IPR: EX-1006 at 17; Paper 2 at 11-13, 47-48.
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`-01061 IPR (‘537 patent)
`Obviousness in view of GmbH-866 + Roberts, Gingue, Jachimowicz (Ground 5)
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`Previous Reexamination of ‘537 Patent (No. 95/000,476)
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`-01061 IPR: EX-1006 at 19; Paper 2 at 11-13, 47-48.
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`-01061 IPR (‘537 patent)
`Obviousness in view of GmbH-866 + Roberts, Gingue, Jachimowicz (Ground 5)
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`Previous Reexamination of ‘537 Patent (No. 95/000,476)
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`-01061 IPR: EX-1006 at19; Paper 2 at 11-13, 47-48.
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`-01061 IPR (‘537 patent)
`Obviousness in view of GmbH-866 + Roberts, Gingue, Jachimowicz (Ground 5)
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`Previous Reexamination of ‘537 Patent (No. 95/000,476)
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`-01061 IPR: EX-1006 at 19-20; Paper 2 at 11-13, 47-48.
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`-01061 IPR (‘537 patent)
`Obviousness in view of GmbH-866 + Roberts, Gingue, Jachimowicz (Ground 5)
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`Previous Reexamination of ‘537 Patent (No. 95/000,476)
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`-01061 IPR: EX-1006 at 21; Paper 2 at 11-13, 47-48.
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`-01061 IPR (‘537 patent)
`Obviousness in view of GmbH-866 + Roberts, Gingue, Jachimowicz (Ground 5)
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`Motivations
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`Cornelison testimony
`(Ex-1007, ¶¶161-166)
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`-01061 IPR: EX-1007 at ¶¶161-166; Paper 2 at 51-54.
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`-01061 IPR (‘537 patent)
`Obviousness in view of GmbH-866 + Roberts, Gingue, Jachimowicz (Ground 5)
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`Motivations
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`-01061 IPR: EX-1007 at ¶158; Paper 2 at 51-52.
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`-01061 IPR (‘537 patent)
`Obviousness in view of GmbH-866 + Roberts, Gingue, Jachimowicz (Ground 5)
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`Motivations
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`Cornelison testimony
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`-01061 IPR: EX-1007 at ¶¶161-166; Paper 2 at 51-54.
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`-01061 IPR (‘537 patent)
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`Motivations
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`-01061 IPR: EX-1007 at ¶158; EX-1009 at Figs. 5-8, 13; Paper 2 at 52-53.
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`-01061 IPR (‘537 patent)
`Obviousness in view of GmbH-866 + Roberts, Gingue, Jachimowicz (Ground 5)
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`Motivations
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`Cornelison testimony
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`-01061 IPR: EX-1007 at ¶¶161-166; Paper 2 at 51-54.
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`-01061 IPR (‘537 patent)
`Obviousness in view of GmbH-866 + Roberts, Gingue, Jachimowicz (Ground 5)
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`Reasonable Expectation of Success
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`-01061 IPR: EX-1007 at ¶169; Paper 2 at 55-56; Paper 30 at 19.
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`-01061 IPR (‘537 patent)
`Obviousness in view of GmbH-866 + Roberts, Gingue, Jachimowicz (Ground 5)
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`Reasonable Expectation of Success
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`-01061 IPR: EX-1015 at Figs. 6, 7; EX-1048 at Fig. 6; EX-1023
`at Fig. 1; EX-1049 at Fig. 2; Paper 2 at 56-57; Paper 30 at 19.
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`-01061 IPR (‘537 patent)
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`Reasonable Expectation of Success
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`-01061 IPR: EX-1007 at ¶171; Paper 2 at 57; Paper 30 at 19.
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`-01061 IPR (‘537 patent)
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`PO Counter Argument / Pet. Reply
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`EX-2007, ¶188
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`Paper 30, 19
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`-01061 IPR: EX-2007 at ¶188; Paper 30 at 19; Paper 20 at 51.
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