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`Before Hon. Hubert C. Lorin, David C. McKone, and Sheila F. McShane
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`Administrative Patent Judges
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`Case No. IPR2023-00343 and IPR2023-00344
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`U.S. Patent Nos. 9,304,654 and 9,696,868
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`Petitioner’s Demonstratives
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`SpaceTime3D, Inc. (Patent Owner)
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`Apple Inc. (Petitioner)
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`v.
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`APPLE 1034
`Apple v. SpaceTime3D, Inc.
`IPR2023-00344
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`Issue 6 –PO’s Secondary Considerations Evidence is Insufficient
`Issue 5 –Dr. Schaefer Does Not Qualify as a POSITA
`Issue 4 –HAC Renders Obvious the ’868 Patent’s claim 13
`Issue 3 -HAC Renders Obvious the “ordering” Feature
`Issue 2 –HAC Renders Obvious the “replacing …” Feature
`Issue 1 –A POSITA would have Combined Anthony and Hanggie
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`•Overview of Anthony and Hanggie
`•The ’868 and ’654 Patents
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`Table of Contents
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`654 IPR: APPLE1001 (’654 pat.), FIG. 16A; Petition (Pet.,) 9.
`868 IPR: APPLE1001 (’868 pat.), FIG. 16A; Petition (Pet.,) 8.
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`654 IPR: APPLE1001, cover.
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`The ’868 & ’654 Patents
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`654 IPR: APPLE1001, FIG. 9; Petition (Pet.,) 7.
`868 IPR: APPLE1001, FIG. 9; Petition (Pet.,) 7.
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`868 IPR: APPLE1001, cover.
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`The ’868 & ’654 Patents
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`654 IPR: APPLE1001, FIG. 9; Pet., 7.
`868 IPR: APPLE1001, FIG. 9; Pet., 7.
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`654 IPR: APPLE1001, 21:34-56; Pet., 9-10.
`868 IPR: APPLE1001, 22:7-30; Pet., 8.
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`654 IPR: APPLE1001, 3:5-17; Petition (Pet.,) 9.
`868 IPR: APPLE1001, 3:11-24; Petition (Pet.,) 7.
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`The ’868 & ’654 Patents
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`(654 IPR: APPLE1001, 37:44-38:55)
`The ’654 patent additionally recites a “timeline.”
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`868 IPR: APPLE1001, 38:40-39:51.
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`’868 (and ’654) Claim 1
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`868 IPR: APPLE1001, 38:40-39:51.
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`Disputed Limitations
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`Overview of Anthony and Hanggie
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`APPLE1007
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`Anthony
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`654 IPR: APPLE1007, FIG. 4; Pet., 11-12.
`868 IPR: APPLE1007, FIG. 4; Pet., 10-11.
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`654 IPR: APPLE1007, FIG. 4, ¶[42]; Pet., 11-12.
`868 IPR: APPLE1007, FIG. 4, ¶[42]; Pet., 10-11.
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`Anthony Discloses a Timeline that Displays Items in a 3D
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`space
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`APPLE1007.
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`Anthony
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`654 IPR: APPLE1007, FIG. 4; Pet., 11-12.
`868 IPR: APPLE1007, FIG. 4; Pet., 10-11.
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`654 IPR: APPLE1007, ¶[42]; Pet., 11-12.
`868 IPR: APPLE1007, ¶[42]; Pet., 10-11.
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`Anthony’s items are arranged in a chronological order (e.g.,
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`according to date of creation or date of edit)
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`APPLE1007.
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`Anthony
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`868 IPR: APPLE1006, FIGS. 1B, 3; Pet., 10-11. 654 IPR: APPLE1006, FIGS. 1B, 3; Pet., 11-12.
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`APPLE1006.
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`Hanggie
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`868 IPR: APPLE1006, FIG. 1B, ¶[92], Pet., 14-22. 654 IPR: APPLE1006, FIG. 1B, ¶[92],; Pet., 16-22.
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`A user can switch between the CDWM (3D) and legacy
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`DWM (2D) modes
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`APPLE1006.
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`Hanggie
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`Hanggie-Anthony Combination (HAC)
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`The Anthony-Hanggieor
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`ISSUE 1
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`654 IPR: APPLE1003, p38.
`868 IPR: APPLE1003, p39.
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`APPLE1006, FIG. 3.
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`APPLE1007, FIG. 4.
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`HANGGIE
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`COMBINATION FIGURE PROVIDED BY DR. FUCHS
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`COMBINATION
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`868 IPR: APPLE1003, ¶¶[59]-[75], Pet., 22-34. 654 IPR: APPLE1003, ¶¶[60]-[80], Pet., 23-35.
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`ANTHONY
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`A POSITA Would Have Combined Anthony and Hanggie
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`Anthony and Hanggiehave similar systems
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`868 IPR: APPLE1003, ¶¶[64]-[65], Pet., 27-29. 654 IPR: APPLE1003, ¶¶[71]-[72], Pet., 28-30.
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`A POSITA Would Have Combined Anthony and Hanggie
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`Anthony and Hanggiehave overlapping inventorship
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`868 IPR: APPLE1003, ¶¶[64]-[65], Pet., 27-29. 654 IPR: APPLE1003, ¶¶[71]-[72], Pet., 28-30.
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`A POSITA Would Have Combined Anthony and Hanggie
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`654 IPR: APPLE1003 (Fuchs Dec.), p45.
`868 IPR: APPLE1003 (Fuchs Dec.), p44.
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`654 IPR: APPLE1003 (Fuchs Dec.) ¶74.
`868 IPR: APPLE1003 (Fuchs Dec.) ¶67.
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`868 IPR: APPLE1003, ¶¶[67]-[73], Pet., 22-34. 654 IPR: APPLE1003, ¶¶[74]-[80], Pet., 23-35.
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`HAC would allow a user to view application windows in a 3D
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`timeline.
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`A POSITA Would Have Combined Anthony and Hanggie
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`APPLE1006 (Hanggie), ¶[92].
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`654 IPR: APPLE1003 (Fuchs Dec.) ¶60.
`868 IPR: APPLE1003 (Fuchs Dec.) ¶59.
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`HAC would allow a user to switch between 2D and 3D modes.
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`868 IPR: APPLE1003, ¶[59], Pet., 22-34. 654 IPR: APPLE1003, ¶[60], Pet., 23-35.
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`A POSITA Would Have Combined Anthony and Hanggie
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`APPLE1006 (Hanggie), ¶[92].
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`654 IPR: APPLE1003 (Fuchs Dec.) ¶60.
`868 IPR: APPLE1003 (Fuchs Dec.) ¶59.
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`HAC would allow a user to switch between 2D and 3D modes.
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`868 IPR: APPLE1003, ¶[59], Pet., 22-34. 654 IPR: APPLE1003, ¶[60], Pet., 23-35.
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`A POSITA Would Have Combined Anthony and Hanggie
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`654 IPR: Pet. Rep., 21-22.
`868 IPR: Pet. Rep., 20.
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`654 IPR: POR, 53.
`868 IPR: POR, 49.
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`Petitioner Reply (Pet. Rep.)
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`PO Response (POR)
`PO attempts to import power limitations into the claims
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`PO’s Arguments do not Negate Obviousness
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`654 IPR: Pet. Rep., 21.
`868 IPR: Pet. Rep., 20.
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`PO’s alleged disadvantages do not take away from the
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`advantages of the combination.
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`PO’s Arguments do not Negate Obviousness
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`the “replacing …” Feature
`HAC Renders Obvious
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`Issue 2
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`APPLE1001 (’654 pat.), 38:25-29.
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`APPLE1001 (’868 pat.), 39:3-19.
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`The ’654 Patent
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`The ’868 Patent
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`The “replacing …” feature
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`654 IPR: POR, p48.
`868 IPR: POR, p43.
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`654 IPR: POR, p45.
`868 IPR: POR (Patent Owner Response), p40.
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`PO’s remarks are disconnected from the claim language
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`654 IPR: POR, p49-50.
`868 IPR: POR, p45-46.
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`PO’s remarks are disconnected from the claim language
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`654 IPR: APPLE1001, 20:66-21:3; Pet. Rep., 4.
`868 IPR: APPLE1001, 21:29-43; Pet. Rep., 4.
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`654 IPR: APPLE1001, FIG. 13A; Pet. Rep., 4-5.
`868 IPR: APPLE1001, FIG. 13A Pet. Rep., 4-5.
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`654 IPR: APPLE1001, 5:37-47; Pet. Rep., 3.
`868 IPR: APPLE1001, 5:48-60; Pet. Rep., 3.
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`PO’s alleged distinctions are unsupported by the patents
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`868 and 654 Patents
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`654 IPR: APPLE1029, 578.
`868 IPR: APPLE1029, 578.
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`654 IPR: POSR, 14-15; APPLE1029.
`868 IPR: POSR, 13-14; APPLE1029.
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`654 IPR: Pet. Rep., 8; APPLE1029, 578.
`868 IPR: Pet. Rep., 7-8; APPLE1029, 578.
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`EX1029
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`the POPR or POR.
`construction of “image” in
`PO did not offer any
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`electronic device.”
`produced by … an
`counterpart of an object
`Plain meaning—“an optical
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`PO (Sur‐Reply)
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`description.”
`representation or
`vivid or graphical
`visible representation;” “a
`thing;” “a tangible or
`of the form of a person or
`reproduction or imitation
`Plain meaning—“a
`Petitioner
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`PO’s Sur-reply (POSR) introduced PO’s construction of
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`“image”
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`Claim Construction: “image”
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`654 IPR: APPLE1006, ¶[58]; Pet. Rep., 20.
`868 IPR: APPLE1006, ¶[58]; Pet. Rep., 18.
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`654 IPR: APPLE1006, ¶[50]; Pet. Rep., 20.
`868 IPR: APPLE1006, ¶[50]; Pet. Rep., 19.
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`The Prior Art renders the claims obvious even if PO’s
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`belated construction of “image” is considered
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`HANGGIE
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`HAC still renders “image” obvious
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`654 IPR: APPLE1006, ¶¶[88]-[89]; Pet. Rep., 20.
`868 IPR: APPLE1006, ¶¶[88]-[89]; Pet. Rep., 18-19.
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`654 IPR: APPLE1006, FIG. 4; Pet. Rep., 20.
`868 IPR: APPLE1006, FIG. 4; Pet. Rep., 18-19.
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`Hanggie’swindows (images) in CDWM (3D) correspond to
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`654 IPR: APPLE1006, ¶[92]; Pet. Rep., 10-11.
`868 IPR: APPLE1006, ¶[92]; Pet. Rep., 10.
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`654 IPR: POR, p38.
`868 IPR: POR, p33.
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`HANGGIE
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`POR
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`the “ordering” Feature
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`APPLE1001 (’654 pat.), 38:5-18.
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`The ’654 Patent
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`The ’868 Patent
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`The “ordering …” feature
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`654 IPR: APPLE1003 (Fuchs Dec.), p66.
`868 IPR: APPLE1003 (Fuchs Dec.), p68.
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`654 IPR: APPLE1006, FIG. 4; Pet. Rep., 20.
`868 IPR: APPLE1006, FIG. 4; Pet. Rep., 18-19.
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`Combination
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`Figure
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`Anthony
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`In HAC, application windows are arranged chronologically
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`HAC renders the “ordering” obvious
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`654 IPR: Pet. Rep, p13.
`868 IPR: Pet. Rep, p12.
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`654 IPR: APPLE1031, 67:22-68:3; Pet. Rep., 13-14.
`868 IPR: APPLE1031, 67:22-68:3; Pet. Rep., 12-13.
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`654 IPR: POR, p14.
`868 IPR: POR, p13.
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`Pet. Rep.
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`Dr. Schaefer Deposition Transcript
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`POR
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`HAC renders the “ordering” obvious
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`654 IPR: POSR, 6-7.
`868 IPR: POSR, 6-7.
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`654 IPR: POR, 14, 21.
`868 IPR: POR, 13, 19.
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`654 IPR: Pet., 10-11.
`868 IPR: Pet., 9.
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`654 IPR: APPLE1001, 38:6-11.
`868 IPR: APPLE1001, 39:7-12.
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`object,”
`application orinteracted with said third
`second object, and (iii) opened said third
`second application or interacted with said
`with said first object, (ii) opened said
`opened said first application or interacted
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`PO Sur‐Reply
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`meaning”
`plain and ordinary
`should be given their
`space and 3D space]
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`applications”;
`most recently used
`space based on the
`orders images in 3D
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`meaning.
`plain
`necessary;
`construction
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`object,”
`interacted with said third
`third application and
`object, and (iii) opened said
`interacted with said second
`second application and
`object, (ii) opened said
`interacted with said first
`said first application and
`said user one of (i) opened
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`Patent(s)
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`PO’s Sur-reply (POSR) introduced PO’s construction of
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`“based on” for the first time in the proceedings
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`Claim Construction: “based on”
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`654 IPR: APPLE1031, 63:27-64: 20; Pet. Rep., 13-14.
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`PO’s incoherent argument is contradicted by its expert
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`HAC renders the “ordering” obvious
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`654 IPR: APPLE1001, FIG. 13A; Pet. Rep., 17.
`868 IPR: APPLE1001, FIG. 13A; Pet. Rep., 16.
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`Applications listed in a taskbar don’t represent all open applications
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`HAC renders the “ordering” obvious
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`HAC Renders ’868 Claim 13 Obvious
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`Issue 4
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`APPLE1001 (’868 pat.) 42:4-10.
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`Claim 13 (’868 Patent)
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`APPLE1006 (Hanggie), ¶[65].
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`APPLE1006 (Hanggie), ¶[92].
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`APPLE1006 (Hanggie), ¶[57].
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`868 IPR: Pet., 44-47; Pet. Rep., 24-27.
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`creating images in 3D space to replace objects in 2D space
`Hanggiediscloses switching between 2D and 3D modes and
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`HAC teaches “switching”
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`APPLE1001 (’868 pat.) 42:4-10.
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`to switch, but does not require switching the entire 2D space to 3D
`Dr. Fuchs correctly notes that claim 13 recites receiving a request
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`space
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`HAC teaches “switching”
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`868: APPLE1033, ¶¶[55]-[56]; Pet. Resp. 25-26.
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`868 IPR: APPLE1003 (Fuchs Dec.) ¶59.
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`Dr. Fuchs explains that HAC renders obvious claim 13
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`HAC teaches “switching”
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`Dr. Schaefer Does Not Qualify
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`Issue 5
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`654 IPR: APPLE1003, ¶[31]; Pet., 10.
`868 IPR: APPLE1003, ¶[31]; Pet., 9.
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`PO’s expert does not satisfy the experience required for a
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`POSITA.
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`Definition of a POSITA
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`APPLE1031 (Schaefer Deposition Transcript), 17:22-18:8.
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`868 IPR: Pet. Rep., 7; 654 IPR: Pet. Rep., 7.
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`PO’s expert does not satisfy the experience required for a
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`POSITA.
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`Dr. Schaefer Cannot Opine as to a POSITA’s Knowledge
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`PO’s Secondary Considerations
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`Evidence Lacks Nexus
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`Issue 6
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`APPLE1032 (Def. Motion to Dismiss).
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`654 IPR: APPLE1032, 17, 10; Pet. Rep., 26-27.
`868 IPR: APPLE1032, 17, 10; Pet. Rep., 28.
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`Patent Owner Already Conceded That Its 2007 Product Did
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`Not Practice the ’868 and ’654 Patent’s Claims
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`Secondary Considerations
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`868 IPR: Pet. Rep., 28-29.
`654 IPR: Pet. Rep., 27.
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`654 IPR: Pet. Rep.
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`Unexplained Licenses Alone Are Insufficient
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`Secondary Considerations
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