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`From:
`Sent:
`To:
`Cc:
`
`Subject:
`
`Andrew O. Larsen <ALarsen@merchantgould.com>
`Friday, November 4, 2022 11:41 AM
`Kim, Kyu Yun; Christopher J. Sorenson; Melissa M. Hayworth
`Hasford, Justin; Diner, Bryan; Goldberg, Joshua; O'Connell, Caitlin; Officer, Kassandra; (Dowty)
`Robinson, Lauren
`RE: IPR2023-00016
`
`EXTERNAL Email:  

`Kyu Yun, 

`Thanks for your e‐mail.  Petitioner disagrees that the participatory concessions set forth in its 
`Motion for Joinder are insufficient to warrant joinder here.  Patent Owner’s proposals are also 
`not consistent with the rights normally reserved to a joining party by the PTAB.  Rather than 
`continue our conferral on these points, Petitioner prefers to let the Board establish the scope 
`of its participation.  Should opposition be necessary, then we look forward to hearing Patent 
`Owner’s positions and supporting authority in due course.      

`Best Regards, 

`Andrew                  

`From: Kim, Kyu Yun <KyuYun.Kim@finnegan.com>  
`Sent: Friday, November 4, 2022 10:33 AM 
`To: Andrew O. Larsen <ALarsen@merchantgould.com>; Christopher J. Sorenson <CSorenson@merchantgould.com>; 
`Melissa M. Hayworth <MHayworth@merchantgould.com> 
`Cc: Hasford, Justin <Justin.Hasford@finnegan.com>; Diner, Bryan <bryan.diner@finnegan.com>; Goldberg, Joshua 
`<Joshua.Goldberg@finnegan.com>; O'Connell, Caitlin <Caitlin.O'Connell@finnegan.com>; Officer, Kassandra 
`<Kassandra.Officer@finnegan.com>; (Dowty) Robinson, Lauren <Lauren.Robinson@finnegan.com> 
`Subject: RE: IPR2023‐00016 

`CAUTION - External.
`
`Andrew, 
`
`  
`Patent Owner disagrees with Petitioner’s improper attempt to reserve participatory rights in its motion for joinder, as 
`we previously identified. In an effort to avoid burdening the Board with this dispute, please let us know if MSN is 
`agreeable to the following: 
`  
`
`1. “MSN agrees to not submit any separate filings during the proceeding, unless there is a dispute as to the real 
`parties in interest (RPI) specifically concerning MSN and unless the Board authorizes any such filing., except in 
`the unlikely event of a disagreement with Mylan’s position or an issue unique to MSN arises during the 
`proceeding.”  
`  
`
`1
`
`Bausch Health Ireland Exhibit 2001, Page 1 of 7
`MSN v. Bausch Health Ireland - IPR2023-00016
`
`

`

`2. “To the extent that the Board authorizes MSN to participate in the Mylan IPR, and so long as Mylan remains a 
`party to the IPR, MSN will endeavor to coordinate with Mylan to consolidate authorized filings, and coordinate 
`on discovery and briefing, such that MSN will not submit any separate filings or briefing and will not ask any 
`questions at depositions or seek any separate discovery manage questioning at depositions, ensure that 
`briefing and discovery occur within the time normally allotted”  
`
`3. “MSN will not seek to submit any new expert declarations apart from those entered by Mylan, except in the 
`event that MSN is precluded from relying on Mylan’s experts”  
`
`  
`
`  
`
`4. MSN “will not file any separate papers without consultation with Mylan and prior authorization from the 
`Board.” (Motion for Joinder at 10)  
`
`  
`If MSN does not agree to limit its role in the proceedings accordingly, Patent Owner will be forced to oppose MSN’s 
`Motion for Joinder.  
`
`  
`Regards, 
`Kyu Yun 

`From: Andrew O. Larsen <ALarsen@merchantgould.com>  
`Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2022 12:02 AM 
`To: Kim, Kyu Yun <KyuYun.Kim@finnegan.com>; Christopher J. Sorenson <CSorenson@merchantgould.com>; Melissa M. 
`Hayworth <MHayworth@merchantgould.com> 
`Cc: Hasford, Justin <Justin.Hasford@finnegan.com>; Diner, Bryan <bryan.diner@finnegan.com>; Goldberg, Joshua 
`<Joshua.Goldberg@finnegan.com>; O'Connell, Caitlin <Caitlin.O'Connell@finnegan.com> 
`Subject: Re: IPR2023‐00016 

`EXTERNAL Email:  

`Dear Kyu Yun, 

`Thanks for your e‐mail.  As I said on the call, we would be happy to consider alternative options, should you like to 
`propose them.   

`Please also be advised that “you know it when you see it” in reference to "pornography" are actually the words of 
`Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart, who expressed the notion when defining the contours of freedom of speech in 
`the 1960s.  

`Best Regards, 

`Andrew 

`Get Outlook for iOS 
`
`From: Kim, Kyu Yun <KyuYun.Kim@finnegan.com> 
`Sent: Friday, October 28, 2022 11:47:27 PM 
`To: Andrew O. Larsen <ALarsen@merchantgould.com>; Christopher J. Sorenson <CSorenson@merchantgould.com>; 
`Melissa M. Hayworth <MHayworth@merchantgould.com> 
`Cc: Hasford, Justin <Justin.Hasford@finnegan.com>; Diner, Bryan <bryan.diner@finnegan.com>; Goldberg, Joshua 
`<Joshua.Goldberg@finnegan.com>; O'Connell, Caitlin <Caitlin.O'Connell@finnegan.com> 
`Subject: RE: IPR2023‐00016  
`
`  
`CAUTION - External.
`
`2
`
`Bausch Health Ireland Exhibit 2001, Page 2 of 7
`MSN v. Bausch Health Ireland - IPR2023-00016
`
`

`

`Andrew, 
`
`  
`On October 25, 2022, we on behalf of Patent Owner met and conferred with you on behalf of Petitioner MSN to discuss 
`MSN’s proposed participation in the above‐captioned IPR proceeding if joined.  We discussed with you the participatory 
`rights that MSN has attempted to reserve in MSN’s Motion for Joinder, specifically your following statements: 
`  
`1. “MSN agrees to not submit any separate filings, except in the unlikely event of a disagreement with Mylan’s 
`position or an issue unique to MSN arises during the proceeding.” (Motion for Joinder at 9‐10) 
`  
`2. “To the extent that the Board authorizes MSN to participate in the Mylan IPR, MSN will endeavor to coordinate 
`with Mylan to consolidate authorized filings, manage questioning at depositions, ensure that briefing and 
`discovery occur within the time normally allotted” (Motion for Joinder at 10) 
`
`3. “MSN will not seek to submit any new expert declarations apart from those entered by Mylan, except in the 
`event that MSN is precluded from relying on Mylan’s experts” (Motion for Joinder at 10) 
`
`  
`
`  
`
`4. MSN “will not file any separate papers without consultation with Mylan and prior authorization from the 
`Board.” (Motion for Joinder at 10)   
`
`  
`
`With respect to your first and fourth statements above, we asked you what MSN means by “the unlikely event of a 
`disagreement with Mylan’s position,” “an issue unique to MSN,” and under which occasions MSN would “file any 
`separate papers.”  You answered that MSN cannot predict “the unlikely event,” and you stated that “you know when 
`you see it” as it is like, in your words, “pornography.” 
`
`  
`Similarly, with respect to your third statement above, we requested that MSN clarify when MSN would be “precluded 
`from relying on Mylan’s expert.”  You once again stated that “you know when you see it” as it is like, in your words, 
`“pornography.” 
`
`  
`With respect to your second statement above, we repeatedly asked whether MSN intends to request additional time 
`during cross examinations.  You refused to answer whether MSN will ask for extra time. 
`
`  
`We of course hope to resolve these issues without unnecessarily the Board.  Nevertheless, given the foregoing 
`discussion we had with you during the meet and confer, Patent Owner is inclined to oppose MSN’s Motion for 
`Joinder.  We hope that MSN is willing to reconsider the participatory rights that you have attempted to reserve.  
`
`  
`Best regards, 
`
`  
`Kyu Yun 
`
`  
`From: Andrew O. Larsen <ALarsen@merchantgould.com>  
`Sent: Monday, October 24, 2022 3:09 PM 
`To: Kim, Kyu Yun <KyuYun.Kim@finnegan.com>; Christopher J. Sorenson <CSorenson@merchantgould.com>; Melissa M. 
`Hayworth <MHayworth@merchantgould.com> 
`Cc: Hasford, Justin <Justin.Hasford@finnegan.com>; Diner, Bryan <bryan.diner@finnegan.com>; Goldberg, Joshua 
`<Joshua.Goldberg@finnegan.com>; O'Connell, Caitlin <Caitlin.O'Connell@finnegan.com> 
`Subject: RE: IPR2023‐00016 
`
`  
`EXTERNAL Email:  
`
`  
`Hi Kyu Yun, 
`  
`
`3
`
`Bausch Health Ireland Exhibit 2001, Page 3 of 7
`MSN v. Bausch Health Ireland - IPR2023-00016
`
`

`

`We are available tomorrow at that time.  Will you be circulating a dial‐in? 


`Regards, 


`Andrew 


`From: Kim, Kyu Yun <KyuYun.Kim@finnegan.com>  
`Sent: Monday, October 24, 2022 1:42 PM 
`To: Andrew O. Larsen <ALarsen@merchantgould.com>; Christopher J. Sorenson <CSorenson@merchantgould.com>; 
`Melissa M. Hayworth <MHayworth@merchantgould.com> 
`Cc: Hasford, Justin <Justin.Hasford@finnegan.com>; Diner, Bryan <bryan.diner@finnegan.com>; Goldberg, Joshua 
`<Joshua.Goldberg@finnegan.com>; O'Connell, Caitlin <Caitlin.O'Connell@finnegan.com> 
`Subject: RE: IPR2023‐00016 
`
`  
`CAUTION - External. 
`
`Andrew, 
`
`  
`Are you available to meet and confer with us tomorrow at 2 pm ET? 
`
`  
`Best regards, 
`
`  
`Kyu Yun 
`  
`
`  
`From: Andrew O. Larsen <ALarsen@merchantgould.com>  
`Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 2:13 PM 
`To: Kim, Kyu Yun <KyuYun.Kim@finnegan.com>; Christopher J. Sorenson <CSorenson@merchantgould.com>; Melissa M. 
`Hayworth <MHayworth@merchantgould.com> 
`Cc: Hasford, Justin <Justin.Hasford@finnegan.com>; Diner, Bryan <bryan.diner@finnegan.com>; Goldberg, Joshua 
`<Joshua.Goldberg@finnegan.com>; O'Connell, Caitlin <Caitlin.O'Connell@finnegan.com> 
`Subject: RE: IPR2023‐00016 
`
`  
`EXTERNAL Email:  
`
`  
`Hi Kyu, 


`Good to hear from you.  I was tied up in meetings and just now seeing your e‐mail. We are 
`obviously not available at 2p ET, or 3p ET for that matter given the short notice you’ve 
`provided.  Are you available tomorrow afternoon instead? 
`  
`In the future, we’d appreciate if you could propose times for a meet and confer at least 24 
`hours in advance.  We of course will aim to provide your team with the same courtesy.   


`Regards, 


`Andrew 
`
`4
`
`Bausch Health Ireland Exhibit 2001, Page 4 of 7
`MSN v. Bausch Health Ireland - IPR2023-00016
`
`

`



`From: Kim, Kyu Yun <KyuYun.Kim@finnegan.com>  
`Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 12:19 PM 
`To: Andrew O. Larsen <ALarsen@merchantgould.com>; Christopher J. Sorenson <CSorenson@merchantgould.com>; 
`Melissa M. Hayworth <MHayworth@merchantgould.com> 
`Cc: Hasford, Justin <Justin.Hasford@finnegan.com>; Diner, Bryan <bryan.diner@finnegan.com>; Goldberg, Joshua 
`<Joshua.Goldberg@finnegan.com>; O'Connell, Caitlin <Caitlin.O'Connell@finnegan.com> 
`Subject: RE: IPR2023‐00016 
`
`  
`CAUTION - External. 
`
`Andrew, 
`
`  
`We are available to meet and confer with you at 2 or 3 pm ET today.  Please let us know if either time works for you.  We 
`will circulate a meeting invite. 
`
`  
`With respect to your proposed participatory rights, please be ready to discuss the following statements in your Motion 
`for Joinder. 
`  
`5. “MSN agrees to not submit any separate filings, except in the unlikely event of a disagreement with Mylan’s 
`position or an issue unique to MSN arises during the proceeding.” (Motion for Joinder at 9‐10) 
`  
`6. “To the extent that the Board authorizes MSN to participate in the Mylan IPR, MSN will endeavor to coordinate 
`with Mylan to consolidate authorized filings, manage questioning at depositions, ensure that briefing and 
`discovery occur within the time normally allotted” (Motion for Joinder at 10) 
`
`  
`
`  
`
`7. “MSN will not seek to submit any new expert declarations apart from those entered by Mylan, except in the 
`event that MSN is precluded from relying on Mylan’s experts” (Motion for Joinder at 10) 
`
`8. MSN “will not file any separate papers without consultation with Mylan and prior authorization from the 
`Board.” (Motion for Joinder at 10)   
`
`  
`
`Best regards, 
`Kyu Yun 
`  
`
`  
`From: Andrew O. Larsen <ALarsen@merchantgould.com>  
`Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 9:31 AM 
`To: Kim, Kyu Yun <KyuYun.Kim@finnegan.com>; Christopher J. Sorenson <CSorenson@merchantgould.com>; Melissa M. 
`Hayworth <MHayworth@merchantgould.com> 
`Cc: Hasford, Justin <Justin.Hasford@finnegan.com>; Diner, Bryan <bryan.diner@finnegan.com>; Goldberg, Joshua 
`<Joshua.Goldberg@finnegan.com>; O'Connell, Caitlin <Caitlin.O'Connell@finnegan.com> 
`Subject: Re: IPR2023‐00016 
`
`  
`EXTERNAL Email:  
`
`  
`Kyu Yun, 
`
`  
`We would be happy to hear you out.  Can you provide us with a little more detail on the participatory rights you would 
`oppose prior to a call?   It would be helpful to have some time to consider MSN's options before we discuss further.    
`  
`
`5
`
`Bausch Health Ireland Exhibit 2001, Page 5 of 7
`MSN v. Bausch Health Ireland - IPR2023-00016
`
`

`

`If you can provide more information, we can be available for a meet and confer this Thursday or Friday afternoon.   
`
`  
`Regards, 
`
`  
`Andrew 
`
`  
`Get Outlook for iOS 
`
`From: Kim, Kyu Yun <KyuYun.Kim@finnegan.com> 
`Sent: Monday, October 17, 2022 9:04 PM 
`To: Andrew O. Larsen <ALarsen@merchantgould.com>; Christopher J. Sorenson <CSorenson@merchantgould.com>; 
`Melissa M. Hayworth <MHayworth@merchantgould.com> 
`Cc: Hasford, Justin <Justin.Hasford@finnegan.com>; Diner, Bryan <bryan.diner@finnegan.com>; Goldberg, Joshua 
`<Joshua.Goldberg@finnegan.com>; O'Connell, Caitlin <Caitlin.O'Connell@finnegan.com> 
`Subject: RE: IPR2023‐00016  
`
`  
`CAUTION - External. 
`
`Andrew, 
`
`  
`We would like to meet and confer regarding the parameters of MSN’s proposed participation in the proceeding if 
`joined.  Based on the participatory rights you have attempted to reserve in your motion, we are inclined to oppose your 
`motion.  But we are hopeful that we can resolve this issue without unnecessarily burdening the Board.  We therefore 
`request that you meet and confer with us. 
`
`  
`Best regards, 
`
`  
`Kyu Yun 
`  
`
`  
`From: Andrew O. Larsen <ALarsen@merchantgould.com>  
`Sent: Monday, October 17, 2022 8:24 PM 
`To: Kim, Kyu Yun <KyuYun.Kim@finnegan.com>; Christopher J. Sorenson <CSorenson@merchantgould.com>; Melissa M. 
`Hayworth <MHayworth@merchantgould.com> 
`Cc: Hasford, Justin <Justin.Hasford@finnegan.com>; Diner, Bryan <bryan.diner@finnegan.com>; Goldberg, Joshua 
`<Joshua.Goldberg@finnegan.com>; O'Connell, Caitlin <Caitlin.O'Connell@finnegan.com> 
`Subject: Re: IPR2023‐00016 
`
`  
`EXTERNAL Email:  
`
`  
`Kyu Yun, 
`
`  
`Thanks for your e‐mail.  Could you please let us know what Bausch would like to confer about re MSN's motion? 
`
`  
`Regards, 
`
`  
`Andrew 
`  
`  
`
`  
`Get Outlook for iOS 
`
`6
`
`Bausch Health Ireland Exhibit 2001, Page 6 of 7
`MSN v. Bausch Health Ireland - IPR2023-00016
`
`

`

`From: Kim, Kyu Yun <KyuYun.Kim@finnegan.com> 
`Sent: Monday, October 17, 2022 7:29:32 PM 
`To: Andrew O. Larsen <ALarsen@merchantgould.com>; Christopher J. Sorenson <CSorenson@merchantgould.com>; 
`Melissa M. Hayworth <MHayworth@merchantgould.com> 
`Cc: Hasford, Justin <Justin.Hasford@finnegan.com>; Diner, Bryan <bryan.diner@finnegan.com>; Goldberg, Joshua 
`<Joshua.Goldberg@finnegan.com>; O'Connell, Caitlin <Caitlin.O'Connell@finnegan.com> 
`Subject: IPR2023‐00016  
`
`  
`CAUTION - External. 
`
`Counsel: 
`
`  
`Please let us know when MSN is available to meet and confer regarding MSN’s motion for joinder. 
`
`  
`Best regards, 
`
`  
`Kyu Yun 
`  

`
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`7
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`Bausch Health Ireland Exhibit 2001, Page 7 of 7
`MSN v. Bausch Health Ireland - IPR2023-00016
`
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