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`Glucoft, Josh; Collins, Melissa; Borrasso, Andrew; Thales Meta IPRs; Gentex-IPR; Meredith Addy; Robert Hart;
`Greg Gulliver; Ghosh, Shayon; Krinsky, David; Harber, Adam; Argall, Arthur; Brandon Helms
`#Facebook-Gentex; #Meta-Thales-IPR
`Re: Declaration of Mr. Parker
`Sunday, October 1, 2023 10:25:50 AM
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`This message is from an EXTERNAL SENDER
`Be cautious, particularly with links and attachments.
`
`Josh,

`Patent Owner Thales Visionix, Inc. confirms that it did not have an attorney-client relationship with
`any attorney at Williams & Connolly before or during the May 23, 2023 deposition of Dr. Neumann.

`As to a date for Mr. Parker’s deposition, he is available on October 13. Please let us know if that date
`works for Meta, and if a 10:00 Eastern start time is acceptable.

`Regards,
`Brandon

`Brandon C. Helms | AddyHart P.C. | +1 312 731 6568

`From: Glucoft, Josh <josh.glucoft@kirkland.com>
`Date: Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 5:02 PM
`To: Collins, Melissa <MCollins@wc.com>, Borrasso, Andrew <aborrasso@wc.com>, Thales
`Meta IPRs <thales-meta-iprs@addyhart.com>, Gentex-IPR <Gentex-IPR@wc.com>, Meredith
`Addy <meredith@addyhart.com>, Robert Hart <robert@addyhart.com>, Greg Gulliver
`<gbgulliver@addyhart.com>, Ghosh, Shayon <sghosh@wc.com>, Krinsky, David
`<DKrinsky@wc.com>, Brandon Helms <bhelms@addyhart.com>, Harber, Adam
`<AHarber@wc.com>, Argall, Arthur <aargall@wc.com>
`Cc: #Facebook-Gentex <Facebook-Gentex@kirkland.com>, #Meta-Thales-IPR <Meta-Thales-
`IPR@kirkland.com>
`Subject: RE: Declaration of Mr. Parker
`
`Melissa,

`We still have not received any response from Patent Owner regarding the issues below.  Please
`promptly confirm in writing the position that Patent Owner represented during our confer,
`provide a date for Mr. Parker’s deposition, and let us know the approximate volume of
`documents that would be produced or withheld under Patent Owner’s proposed compromise
`resolution to our requested document discovery, as I emailed about below.

`Regards,
`Josh

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`From: Glucoft, Josh <josh.glucoft@kirkland.com> 
`Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 5:05 PM
`To: Collins, Melissa <MCollins@wc.com>; Borrasso, Andrew <aborrasso@wc.com>; 'Thales Meta
`IPRs' <thales-meta-iprs@addyhart.com>; Gentex-IPR <Gentex-IPR@wc.com>; 'Meredith Addy'
`<meredith@addyhart.com>; 'Robert Hart' <robert@addyhart.com>; 'Greg Gulliver'
`<gbgulliver@addyhart.com>; Ghosh, Shayon <sghosh@wc.com>; Krinsky, David
`<DKrinsky@wc.com>; 'Brandon Helms' <bhelms@addyhart.com>; Harber, Adam
`<AHarber@wc.com>; Argall, Arthur <aargall@wc.com>
`Cc: #Facebook-Gentex <Facebook-Gentex@kirkland.com>
`Subject: RE: Declaration of Mr. Parker

`Melissa,

`Thank you for meeting and conferring regarding our requested discovery.  Please confirm, as
`your team stated on our call, that Patent Owner (Thales) is not contending, and will not
`contend, based on Mr. Parker’s declaration or otherwise, that there was an attorney-client
`relationship (express or implied in-fact or by law) between any attorney at Williams &
`Connolly and Patent Owner at any time before or during the May 23, 2023 deposition of Dr.
`Neumann.

`Regarding Mr. Parker’s deposition, we cannot agree in advance to limit the time on record
`with him but will endeavor in good faith to be time efficient with our questioning.  If you
`would like to have a broader discussion on time limits in apex depositions here and in the
`litigation, we are willing to discuss that.  We can agree to conduct his deposition remotely so
`that he may appear from his home.  Please provide dates in October when Mr. Parker is
`available for his deposition.

`Regarding our requested document discovery, we are still considering your proposal.  In order
`to help us evaluate your proposal, can you please let us know the approximate volume of
`documents that would be produced, and the approximate volume of documents that would be
`withheld under a claim of joint defense privilege but not logged?

`Regards,
`Josh


`Josh Glucoft
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`From: Glucoft, Josh <josh.glucoft@kirkland.com> 
`Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2023 5:13 PM
`To: Collins, Melissa <MCollins@wc.com>; Borrasso, Andrew <aborrasso@wc.com>; 'Thales Meta
`IPRs' <thales-meta-iprs@addyhart.com>; Gentex-IPR <Gentex-IPR@wc.com>; 'Meredith Addy'
`<meredith@addyhart.com>; 'Robert Hart' <robert@addyhart.com>; 'Greg Gulliver'
`<gbgulliver@addyhart.com>; Ghosh, Shayon <sghosh@wc.com>; Krinsky, David
`<DKrinsky@wc.com>; 'Brandon Helms' <bhelms@addyhart.com>; Harber, Adam
`<AHarber@wc.com>; Argall, Arthur <aargall@wc.com>
`Cc: #Facebook-Gentex <Facebook-Gentex@kirkland.com>
`Subject: RE: Declaration of Mr. Parker

`That works for us, Melissa.

`Josh Glucoft
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`From: Collins, Melissa <MCollins@wc.com> 
`Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2023 9:51 AM
`To: Glucoft, Josh <josh.glucoft@kirkland.com>; Borrasso, Andrew <aborrasso@wc.com>; 'Thales
`Meta IPRs' <thales-meta-iprs@addyhart.com>; Gentex-IPR <Gentex-IPR@wc.com>; 'Meredith Addy'
`<meredith@addyhart.com>; 'Robert Hart' <robert@addyhart.com>; 'Greg Gulliver'
`<gbgulliver@addyhart.com>; Ghosh, Shayon <sghosh@wc.com>; Krinsky, David
`<DKrinsky@wc.com>; 'Brandon Helms' <bhelms@addyhart.com>; Harber, Adam
`<AHarber@wc.com>; Argall, Arthur <aargall@wc.com>
`Cc: #Facebook-Gentex <Facebook-Gentex@kirkland.com>
`Subject: RE: Declaration of Mr. Parker

`Josh,

`We can talk at 3:30 ET/ 12:30 PT on Friday.  If that works for you, we’ll send around an invite.

`Melissa

`Melissa Collins
`Williams & Connolly LLP
`680 Maine Avenue SW, Washington, DC 20024
`(P) 202-434-5916 | (F) 202-434-5029
`mcollins@wc.com | www.wc.com/mcollins

`From: Collins, Melissa 
`Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2023 10:28 AM
`
`Josh, We can talk at 3: 30 ET/ 12: 30 PT on Friday. If that works for you, we’ll send around an invite. Melissa Melissa Collins Williams & Connolly LLP 680 Maine Avenue SW, Washington, DC 20024 (P) 202-434-5916 | (F) 202-434-5029 mcollins@ wc. com
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`To: 'Glucoft, Josh' <josh.glucoft@kirkland.com>; Borrasso, Andrew <aborrasso@wc.com>; 'Thales
`Meta IPRs' <thales-meta-iprs@addyhart.com>; Gentex-IPR <Gentex-IPR@wc.com>; 'Meredith Addy'
`<meredith@addyhart.com>; 'Robert Hart' <robert@addyhart.com>; 'Greg Gulliver'
`<gbgulliver@addyhart.com>; Ghosh, Shayon <sghosh@wc.com>; Krinsky, David
`<DKrinsky@wc.com>; 'Brandon Helms' <bhelms@addyhart.com>; Harber, Adam
`<AHarber@wc.com>; Argall, Arthur <aargall@wc.com>
`Cc: #Facebook-Gentex <Facebook-Gentex@kirkland.com>
`Subject: RE: Declaration of Mr. Parker

`Josh,

`We will circle up on our Friday availability and get back to you.  In terms of what we’d like to discuss,
`Thales would like a better understanding of the basis for Meta’s position as we evaluate the
`requests.  That will inform our position. 

`Melissa



`Melissa Collins
`Williams & Connolly LLP
`680 Maine Avenue SW, Washington, DC 20024
`(P) 202-434-5916 | (F) 202-434-5029
`mcollins@wc.com | www.wc.com/mcollins

`From: Glucoft, Josh <josh.glucoft@kirkland.com> 
`Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2023 10:23 AM
`To: Borrasso, Andrew <aborrasso@wc.com>; Collins, Melissa <MCollins@wc.com>; 'Thales Meta
`IPRs' <thales-meta-iprs@addyhart.com>; Gentex-IPR <Gentex-IPR@wc.com>; 'Meredith Addy'
`<meredith@addyhart.com>; 'Robert Hart' <robert@addyhart.com>; 'Greg Gulliver'
`<gbgulliver@addyhart.com>; Ghosh, Shayon <sghosh@wc.com>; Krinsky, David
`<DKrinsky@wc.com>; 'Brandon Helms' <bhelms@addyhart.com>; Harber, Adam
`<AHarber@wc.com>; Argall, Arthur <aargall@wc.com>
`Cc: #Facebook-Gentex <Facebook-Gentex@kirkland.com>
`Subject: RE: Declaration of Mr. Parker

`Melissa and Andrew,

`We must reschedule today’s call.  What availability do you have this Friday?  Also, please let
`us know whether Thales opposes the requested discovery and what specifically Thales would
`like to discuss on the call.

`Regards,
`Josh

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`T +1 310 552 4284 | M +1 310 497 1143 | F +1 310 552 5900
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`From: Borrasso, Andrew <aborrasso@wc.com> 
`Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2023 2:22 PM
`To: Glucoft, Josh <josh.glucoft@kirkland.com>; Collins, Melissa <MCollins@wc.com>; 'Thales Meta
`IPRs' <thales-meta-iprs@addyhart.com>; Gentex-IPR <Gentex-IPR@wc.com>; 'Meredith Addy'
`<meredith@addyhart.com>; 'Robert Hart' <robert@addyhart.com>; 'Greg Gulliver'
`<gbgulliver@addyhart.com>; Ghosh, Shayon <sghosh@wc.com>; Krinsky, David
`<DKrinsky@wc.com>; 'Brandon Helms' <bhelms@addyhart.com>; Harber, Adam
`<AHarber@wc.com>; Argall, Arthur <aargall@wc.com>
`Cc: #Facebook-Gentex <Facebook-Gentex@kirkland.com>
`Subject: RE: Declaration of Mr. Parker

`Josh,

`Please use the dial-in below at 11am Pacific/2pm Eastern.

`
`Josh, Please use the dial-in below at 11am Pacific/2pm Eastern. (332) 249-0718 Phone Conference ID: 403 404 585# Best, Andrew Andrew Borrasso Associate | Williams & Connolly LLP 680 Maine Avenue, S. W. , Washington, DC 20024 202-434-5898

`
`(332) 249-0718
`Phone Conference ID:  403 404 585#
`

`Best,
`Andrew


`Andrew Borrasso
`Associate | Williams & Connolly LLP
`680 Maine Avenue, S.W., Washington, DC 20024
`202-434-5898     aborrasso@wc.com | www.wc.com

`From: Glucoft, Josh <josh.glucoft@kirkland.com> 
`Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2023 12:45 PM
`To: Collins, Melissa <MCollins@wc.com>; 'Thales Meta IPRs' <thales-meta-iprs@addyhart.com>;
`Gentex-IPR <Gentex-IPR@wc.com>; 'Meredith Addy' <meredith@addyhart.com>; 'Robert Hart'
`<robert@addyhart.com>; 'Greg Gulliver' <gbgulliver@addyhart.com>; Ghosh, Shayon
`<sghosh@wc.com>; Krinsky, David <DKrinsky@wc.com>; 'Brandon Helms'
`<bhelms@addyhart.com>; Harber, Adam <AHarber@wc.com>; Argall, Arthur <aargall@wc.com>
`Cc: #Facebook-Gentex <Facebook-Gentex@kirkland.com>
`Subject: RE: Declaration of Mr. Parker

`Hi Melissa,

`Yes, that slot works.  Please circulate a dial-in and let us know what specific time within that
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`slot.  Also, in advance of the call, please let us know whether Thales opposes the requested
`discovery and what specifically Thales would like to discuss tomorrow.

`Thanks,
`Josh

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`T +1 310 552 4284 | M +1 310 497 1143 | F +1 310 552 5900
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`From: Collins, Melissa <MCollins@wc.com> 
`Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2023 9:32 AM
`To: Glucoft, Josh <josh.glucoft@kirkland.com>; 'Thales Meta IPRs' <thales-meta-
`iprs@addyhart.com>; Gentex-IPR <Gentex-IPR@wc.com>; 'Meredith Addy'
`<meredith@addyhart.com>; 'Robert Hart' <robert@addyhart.com>; 'Greg Gulliver'
`<gbgulliver@addyhart.com>; Ghosh, Shayon <sghosh@wc.com>; Krinsky, David
`<DKrinsky@wc.com>; 'Brandon Helms' <bhelms@addyhart.com>; Harber, Adam
`<AHarber@wc.com>; Argall, Arthur <aargall@wc.com>
`Cc: #Facebook-Gentex <Facebook-Gentex@kirkland.com>
`Subject: RE: Declaration of Mr. Parker

`Josh,

`Is Meta available for a call on this topic tomorrow (Wednesday) between 10-12 Pacific/1-3 Eastern? 

`Melissa

`Melissa Collins
`Williams & Connolly LLP
`680 Maine Avenue SW, Washington, DC 20024
`(P) 202-434-5916 | (F) 202-434-5029
`mcollins@wc.com | www.wc.com/mcollins

`From: Collins, Melissa 
`Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2023 1:04 PM
`To: Glucoft, Josh <josh.glucoft@kirkland.com>; Thales Meta IPRs <thales-meta-
`iprs@addyhart.com>; Gentex-IPR <Gentex-IPR@wc.com>; Meredith Addy
`<meredith@addyhart.com>; Robert Hart <robert@addyhart.com>; Greg Gulliver
`<gbgulliver@addyhart.com>; Ghosh, Shayon <sghosh@wc.com>; Krinsky, David
`<DKrinsky@wc.com>; Brandon Helms <bhelms@addyhart.com>; Harber, Adam
`<AHarber@wc.com>; Argall, Arthur <aargall@wc.com>
`Cc: #Facebook-Gentex <Facebook-Gentex@kirkland.com>
`Subject: RE: Declaration of Mr. Parker
`
`Josh, Is Meta available for a call on this topic tomorrow (Wednesday) between 10-12 Pacific/1-3 Eastern? Melissa Melissa Collins Williams & Connolly LLP 680 Maine Avenue SW, Washington, DC 20024 (P) 202-434-5916 | (F) 202-434-5029 mcollins@ wc. com

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`Josh, we are considering your request below and will get back to you in due course. 

`Melissa Collins
`Williams & Connolly LLP
`680 Maine Avenue SW, Washington, DC 20024
`(P) 202-434-5916 | (F) 202-434-5029
`mcollins@wc.com | www.wc.com/mcollins

`From: Glucoft, Josh <josh.glucoft@kirkland.com> 
`Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2023 10:46 AM
`To: Thales Meta IPRs <thales-meta-iprs@addyhart.com>; Gentex-IPR <Gentex-IPR@wc.com>;
`Meredith Addy <meredith@addyhart.com>; Robert Hart <robert@addyhart.com>; Greg Gulliver
`<gbgulliver@addyhart.com>; Ghosh, Shayon <sghosh@wc.com>; Krinsky, David
`<DKrinsky@wc.com>; Brandon Helms <bhelms@addyhart.com>; Collins, Melissa
`<MCollins@wc.com>; Harber, Adam <AHarber@wc.com>; Argall, Arthur <aargall@wc.com>
`Cc: #Facebook-Gentex <Facebook-Gentex@kirkland.com>
`Subject: RE: Declaration of Mr. Parker

`Counsel,

`Please advise regarding the below.

`Josh Glucoft
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`From: Glucoft, Josh <josh.glucoft@kirkland.com> 
`Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2023 10:42 AM
`To: Thales Meta IPRs <thales-meta-iprs@addyhart.com>; Gentex-IPR@wc.com
`Cc: #Facebook-Gentex <Facebook-Gentex@kirkland.com>
`Subject: Declaration of Mr. Parker

`Counsel,

`Please provide dates when Mr. Glen Parker is available for deposition regarding the
`declaration that Patent Owner served as supplemental evidence in the IPR proceedings. 
`Additionally, in accordance with 37 C.F.R. §§ 42.51(b)(1)(iii) and 42.51(b)(2)(i), Petitioner
`requests the following discovery at least five business days prior to Mr. Parker’s deposition:

`
`1.  All documents and communications created on or before May 23, 2023 related to
`Thales’s alleged “consent[] to Mr. Krinsky’s questioning Dr. Neumann on behalf of
`both Thales and Gentex” or to Thales’s alleged “expectation [] that Mr. Krinsky would
`be the sole questioner on Patent Owner’s side,” as discussed in paragraph 4 of Mr.
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`Parker’s declaration.
`

`To the extent that Patent Owner objects to the production of any responsive information on the
`basis of privilege, please provide a privilege log with the document/communication’s date,
`author, recipient(s), subject matter, and basis of the asserted privilege.  If Patent Owner does
`not agree to provide this discovery, please provide times when the parties can confer to discuss
`Petitioner’s request.

`Regards,
`Josh


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`META V. THALES
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