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`From:
`Sent:
`To:
`
`Cc:
`
`Subject:
`
`Hi Jacob,
`
`Dan Smith <dsmith@fr.com>
`Monday, September 19, 2022 4:14 PM
`Jacob Peterson; IPR50095-0042IP1; IPR50095-0042IP2; IPR50095-0043IP1;
`IPR50095-0043IP2; IPR50095-0044IP1; IPR50095-0044IP2; IPR50095-0045IP1;
`IPR50095-0045IP2; IPR50095-0045IP3; IPR50095-0045IP4
`PTAB Inbound; AppleIPR501-1; AppleIPR501-2; AppleIPR502-1; AppleIPR502-2;
`AppleIPR648-1; AppleIPR648-2; AppleIPR745-1; AppleIPR745-2
`RE: Request for Discovery -
`IPR2022-01271/-01272/-01273/-01274/-01275/-01276/-01291/-01292/-01465/-01466
`
`Having now better understood the nature of the proposed request, we oppose both because the proposed request fails
`to satisfy the requirements for additional discovery in IPR proceedings, and because it seeks information governed by
`the ITC's protective order.
`
`Best Regards,
`-Dan
`________________________________________
`Dan Smith :: Principal :: Fish & Richardson P.C.
`
`From: Jacob Peterson <Jacob.Peterson@knobbe.com>
`Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 5:54 PM
`To: Dan Smith <dsmith@fr.com>; IPR50095-0042IP1 <IPR50095-0042IP1@fr.com>; IPR50095-0042IP2 <IPR50095-
`0042IP2@fr.com>; IPR50095-0043IP1 <IPR50095-0043IP1@fr.com>; IPR50095-0043IP2 <IPR50095-0043IP2@fr.com>;
`IPR50095-0044IP1 <IPR50095-0044IP1@fr.com>; IPR50095-0044IP2 <IPR50095-0044IP2@fr.com>; IPR50095-0045IP1
`<IPR50095-0045IP1@fr.com>; IPR50095-0045IP2 <IPR50095-0045IP2@fr.com>; IPR50095-0045IP3 <IPR50095-
`0045IP3@fr.com>; IPR50095-0045IP4 <IPR50095-0045IP4@fr.com>
`Cc: PTAB Inbound <PTABInbound@fr.com>; AppleIPR501-1 <AppleIPR501-1@knobbe.com>; AppleIPR501-2
`<AppleIPR501-2@knobbe.com>; AppleIPR502-1 <AppleIPR502-1@knobbe.com>; AppleIPR502-2 <AppleIPR502-
`2@knobbe.com>; AppleIPR648-1 <AppleIPR648-1@knobbe.com>; AppleIPR648-2 <AppleIPR648-2@knobbe.com>;
`AppleIPR745-1 <AppleIPR745-1@knobbe.com>; AppleIPR745-2 <AppleIPR745-2@knobbe.com>
`Subject: RE: Request for Discovery - IPR2022-01271/-01272/-01273/-01274/-01275/-01276/-01291/-01292/-01465/-
`01466
`
`Hi Dan,
`
`Thank you for the quick response. Can you please provide us the basis for your opposition?
`
`We plan to request a phone call with the Board on Friday at your proposed times.
`
`Thank you,
`Jacob
`
`Jacob Peterson
`Partner
`
`1
`
`MASIMO 2015
`Apple v. Masimo
`IPR2022-01291
`
`

`

`206-405-2007 Direct
`Knobbe Martens
`
`From: Dan Smith <dsmith@fr.com>
`Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 3:10 PM
`To: Jacob Peterson <Jacob.Peterson@knobbe.com>; IPR50095-0042IP1 <IPR50095-0042IP1@fr.com>; IPR50095-
`0042IP2 <IPR50095-0042IP2@fr.com>; IPR50095-0043IP1 <IPR50095-0043IP1@fr.com>; IPR50095-0043IP2 <IPR50095-
`0043IP2@fr.com>; IPR50095-0044IP1 <IPR50095-0044IP1@fr.com>; IPR50095-0044IP2 <IPR50095-0044IP2@fr.com>;
`IPR50095-0045IP1 <IPR50095-0045IP1@fr.com>; IPR50095-0045IP2 <IPR50095-0045IP2@fr.com>; IPR50095-0045IP3
`<IPR50095-0045IP3@fr.com>; IPR50095-0045IP4 <IPR50095-0045IP4@fr.com>
`Cc: PTAB Inbound <PTABInbound@fr.com>; AppleIPR501-1 <AppleIPR501-1@knobbe.com>; AppleIPR501-2
`<AppleIPR501-2@knobbe.com>; AppleIPR502-1 <AppleIPR502-1@knobbe.com>; AppleIPR502-2 <AppleIPR502-
`2@knobbe.com>; AppleIPR648-1 <AppleIPR648-1@knobbe.com>; AppleIPR648-2 <AppleIPR648-2@knobbe.com>;
`AppleIPR745-1 <AppleIPR745-1@knobbe.com>; AppleIPR745-2 <AppleIPR745-2@knobbe.com>
`Subject: RE: Request for Discovery - IPR2022-01271/-01272/-01273/-01274/-01275/-01276/-01291/-01292/-01465/-
`01466
`
`Counsel,
`
`Thank you for taking the time today to discuss Masimo's request for authorization to file motions seeking additional
`discovery. Apple will oppose Masimo’s request. Should the Board wish to convene a call to discuss the request, we are
`available Thursday (9/22) from 10-10:30a, 12-12:30p, and 2:30-3p ET, and Friday (9/23) from 10-11a, 12:30p-2p, and 3p-
`4:30p ET.
`
`Best Regards,
`-Dan
`________________________________________
`Dan Smith :: Principal :: Fish & Richardson P.C.
`
`From: Jacob Peterson <Jacob.Peterson@knobbe.com>
`Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2022 6:12 PM
`To: Dan Smith <dsmith@fr.com>; IPR50095-0042IP1 <IPR50095-0042IP1@fr.com>; IPR50095-0042IP2 <IPR50095-
`0042IP2@fr.com>; IPR50095-0043IP1 <IPR50095-0043IP1@fr.com>; IPR50095-0043IP2 <IPR50095-0043IP2@fr.com>;
`IPR50095-0044IP1 <IPR50095-0044IP1@fr.com>; IPR50095-0044IP2 <IPR50095-0044IP2@fr.com>; IPR50095-0045IP1
`<IPR50095-0045IP1@fr.com>; IPR50095-0045IP2 <IPR50095-0045IP2@fr.com>; IPR50095-0045IP3 <IPR50095-
`0045IP3@fr.com>; IPR50095-0045IP4 <IPR50095-0045IP4@fr.com>
`Cc: PTAB Inbound <PTABInbound@fr.com>; AppleIPR501-1 <AppleIPR501-1@knobbe.com>; AppleIPR501-2
`<AppleIPR501-2@knobbe.com>; AppleIPR502-1 <AppleIPR502-1@knobbe.com>; AppleIPR502-2 <AppleIPR502-
`2@knobbe.com>; AppleIPR648-1 <AppleIPR648-1@knobbe.com>; AppleIPR648-2 <AppleIPR648-2@knobbe.com>;
`AppleIPR745-1 <AppleIPR745-1@knobbe.com>; AppleIPR745-2 <AppleIPR745-2@knobbe.com>
`Subject: RE: Request for Discovery - IPR2022-01271/-01272/-01273/-01274/-01275/-01276/-01291/-01292/-01465/-
`01466
`
`Hi Dan,
`
`Thank you for your email. We confirm we are available at 12:30 pm Eastern on Monday (9/19) for the meet-and-confer.
`
`Below is Zoom information that we can use for the meet-and-confer.
`
`https://knobbe.zoom.us/j/93005982655?pwd=cCtSanJ5ME04U1Z2enFKbWlkVVNqQT09
`2
`
`MASIMO 2015
`Apple v. Masimo
`IPR2022-01291
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`

`

`Meeting ID: 930 0598 2655
`Meeting Password: 609627
`One tap mobile: +12133388477,,93005982655# US (Los Angeles)
`Phone: +1 213 338 8477 US (Los Angeles) or (888) 475 4499 US Toll-free
`Find your local number: https://knobbe.zoom.us/u/adZz3sdayy
`
`Thank you,
`Jacob
`
`Jacob Peterson
`Partner
`206-405-2007 Direct
`Knobbe Martens
`
`From: Dan Smith <dsmith@fr.com>
`Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2022 9:59 AM
`To: Jacob Peterson <Jacob.Peterson@knobbe.com>; IPR50095-0042IP1 <IPR50095-0042IP1@fr.com>; IPR50095-
`0042IP2 <IPR50095-0042IP2@fr.com>; IPR50095-0043IP1 <IPR50095-0043IP1@fr.com>; IPR50095-0043IP2 <IPR50095-
`0043IP2@fr.com>; IPR50095-0044IP1 <IPR50095-0044IP1@fr.com>; IPR50095-0044IP2 <IPR50095-0044IP2@fr.com>;
`IPR50095-0045IP1 <IPR50095-0045IP1@fr.com>; IPR50095-0045IP2 <IPR50095-0045IP2@fr.com>; IPR50095-0045IP3
`<IPR50095-0045IP3@fr.com>; IPR50095-0045IP4 <IPR50095-0045IP4@fr.com>
`Cc: PTAB Inbound <PTABInbound@fr.com>; AppleIPR501-1 <AppleIPR501-1@knobbe.com>; AppleIPR501-2
`<AppleIPR501-2@knobbe.com>; AppleIPR502-1 <AppleIPR502-1@knobbe.com>; AppleIPR502-2 <AppleIPR502-
`2@knobbe.com>; AppleIPR648-1 <AppleIPR648-1@knobbe.com>; AppleIPR648-2 <AppleIPR648-2@knobbe.com>;
`AppleIPR745-1 <AppleIPR745-1@knobbe.com>; AppleIPR745-2 <AppleIPR745-2@knobbe.com>
`Subject: RE: Request for Discovery - IPR2022-01271/-01272/-01273/-01274/-01275/-01276/-01291/-01292/-01465/-
`01466
`
`Counsel,
`
`Apple would like to further discuss the specifics of the proposed requests for each case before deciding whether to
`oppose. Unfortunately, we are not available for a meet-and-confer until the beginning of next week. We are available
`to discuss on Monday (9/19) from 10a to 3p ET, and Tuesday (9/20) from 10a to 4p ET except for the 11-11:30a ET
`slot. Please let us know if you are available to discuss during any of these windows.
`
`Best Regards,
`-Dan
`________________________________________
`Dan Smith :: Principal :: Fish & Richardson P.C.
`
`From: Jacob Peterson <Jacob.Peterson@knobbe.com>
`Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 4:47 PM
`To: IPR50095-0042IP1 <IPR50095-0042IP1@fr.com>; IPR50095-0042IP2 <IPR50095-0042IP2@fr.com>; IPR50095-
`0043IP1 <IPR50095-0043IP1@fr.com>; IPR50095-0043IP2 <IPR50095-0043IP2@fr.com>; IPR50095-0044IP1 <IPR50095-
`0044IP1@fr.com>; IPR50095-0044IP2 <IPR50095-0044IP2@fr.com>; IPR50095-0045IP1 <IPR50095-0045IP1@fr.com>;
`IPR50095-0045IP2 <IPR50095-0045IP2@fr.com>; IPR50095-0045IP3 <IPR50095-0045IP3@fr.com>; IPR50095-0045IP4
`<IPR50095-0045IP4@fr.com>
`Cc: PTAB Inbound <PTABInbound@fr.com>; AppleIPR501-1 <AppleIPR501-1@knobbe.com>; AppleIPR501-2
`<AppleIPR501-2@knobbe.com>; AppleIPR502-1 <AppleIPR502-1@knobbe.com>; AppleIPR502-2 <AppleIPR502-
`2@knobbe.com>; AppleIPR648-1 <AppleIPR648-1@knobbe.com>; AppleIPR648-2 <AppleIPR648-2@knobbe.com>;
`3
`
`MASIMO 2015
`Apple v. Masimo
`IPR2022-01291
`
`

`

`AppleIPR745-1 <AppleIPR745-1@knobbe.com>; AppleIPR745-2 <AppleIPR745-2@knobbe.com>
`Subject: Request for Discovery - IPR2022-01271/-01272/-01273/-01274/-01275/-01276/-01291/-01292/-01465/-01466
`
`
`
`[This email originated outside of F&R.]
`
`
`
`Counsel,
`
`
`Masimo intends to file motions requesting discovery in IPR2022-01271/-01272/-01273/-01274/-01275/-01276/-01291/-
`01292/-01465/-01466. Masimo seeks information relevant to objective indicia of non-obviousness, including evidence
`identified in the publicly available materials of the related ITC proceeding but which is not otherwise publicly available.
`Please let us know if Apple intends to oppose the motions. If helpful, we would be happy to discuss further discuss
`between (i) 9 am and 12 noon Pacific on Thursday [9/15], (ii) 1:30 pm and 3 pm Pacific on Thursday [9/15], or (iii) 9 am
`and 12 noon Pacific on Friday [9/16].
`
`
`Thank you,
`Jacob
`
`
`Jacob Peterson
`Partner
`Jacob.Peterson@knobbe.com
`206-405-2007 Direct
`Knobbe Martens
`925 Fourth Ave., Suite 2500
`Seattle, WA 98104
`www.knobbe.com/jacob-peterson
`
`
`
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`MASIMO 2015
`Apple v. Masimo
`IPR2022-01291
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`MASIMO 2015
`Apple v. Masimo
`IPR2022-01291
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