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UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`GOOGLE LLC,
`Petitioner
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`v.
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`ECOFACTOR, INC.,
`Patent Owner
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`IPR2022-00538
`Patent No. 9,194,597
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`DECLARATION OF JOHN A. PALMER, Ph.D.
`PURSUANT TO 37 C.F.R. § 1.68
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`TABLE OF CONTENTS
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`I.
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`II.
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`BACKGROUND ................................................................. 2
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`QUALIFICATIONS ............................................................ 2
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`III.
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`BACKGROUND OF THE ‘597 PATENT .................................. 7
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`IV. LEGAL PRINCIPLES.......................................................... 9
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`V.
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`LEVEL OF A PERSON OF ORDINARY SKILL IN THE ART
`(POSITA) .......................................................................... 14
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`VI. CLAIM CONSTRUCTION PRINCIPLES ................................ 18
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`VII. GENERAL COMMENTS ON THE SHAH REPORT ............. 19
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`VIII. REBUTTAL TO ALLEGATIONS REGARDING
`OBVIOUSNESS................................................................ 29
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`A.
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`B.
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`Introduction to Ehlers ‘330 Prior Art Reference ........................... 29
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`Introduction to Wruck Prior Art Reference .................................. 30
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`IX. GROUND 1: ..................................................................... 31
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`A.
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`The Combination of Ehlers ‘330, the Knowledge of a POSITA and
`Wruck Does Not Render Claims 1-24 Unpatentable .................... 31
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`1.
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`2.
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`Claim Element [1d] - “using the stored data to predict changes
`in temperature inside the structure in response to at least
`changes in outside temperatures” ............................................ 31
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`Claim Element [1e] - “calculating with at least one computer,
`scheduled programming of the thermostatic controller for one
`or more times to control the heating ventilation and air
`conditioning system, the scheduled programming comprising at
`least a first automated setpoint at a first time” ......................... 37
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`3.
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`4.
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`5.
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`6.
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`7.
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`Dependent Claims 2-8............................................................. 42
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`Independent Claim 9 ............................................................... 42
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`Dependent Claims 10-16 ......................................................... 45
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`Independent Claim 10 ............................................................. 45
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`Dependent Claims 18-24 ......................................................... 45
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`X.
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`DECLARATION ................................................................ 46
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`Exhibits
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`Exhibit No.
`2001
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`Description
`Google, LLC f/k/a Google Inc. v. EcoFactor, Inc., 4-21-cv-03220
`(N.D. Cal. April 30, 2021), Dkt. 1 (Complaint)
`Google, LLC f/k/a Google Inc. v. EcoFactor, Inc., 4-21-cv-03220
`(N.D. Cal. Aug. 3, 2021), Dkt. 30 (Joint Case Management
`Statement)
`Google, LLC f/k/a Google Inc. v. EcoFactor, Inc., 4-21-cv-03220
`(N.D. Cal. April 7, 2022), Dkt. 72 (Amended Scheduling Order)
`Google, LLC f/k/a Google Inc. v. EcoFactor, Inc., 4-21-cv-03220
`(N.D. Cal. April 13, 2022), Dkt. 73 (Amended Scheduling Or-
`der)
`Google’s Oct. 19, 2021, Invalidity Contentions in Google, LLC
`f/k/a Google Inc. v. EcoFactor, Inc., 4-21-cv-03220 (N.D. Cal.)
`“Silicon Valley’s Home Court: Patent Trends in the Northern
`District of California.” White & Case Newsflash (Mar. 18,
`2020).
`U.S. Patent No. 10,018,371
`Expert Declaration of John A. Palmer
`Curriculum Vitae of John A. Palmer
`April 6, 2021, Deposition Transcripts of Mr. Rajenda Shah,
`IPR2021-01218.
`337-TA-1258 International Trade Commission Investigation, Or-
`der No. 18 - Construing the Terms of the Asserted Claims
`October 10, 2022, Deposition Transcripts of Mr. Rajenda Shah,
`IPR2022-00538.
`October 13, 2022, Deposition Transcripts of Mr. Rajenda Shah,
`IPR2022-00473.
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`I.
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`1.
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`BACKGROUND
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`I have been retained as an expert in this case by EcoFactor, Inc. (“EcoFactor”).
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`I have been asked to consider and opine on issues of validity regarding U.S. Patent
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`No. 9,194,597 (“‘597 Patent”). More specifically, my opinions disclosed herein fo-
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`cus on the Petition for Inter Partes Review (“IPR”) on the ‘597 Patent, along with
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`the expert declaration of Rajendra Shah and all other materials referenced or cited in
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`the IPR or Mr. Shah’s declaration.
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`2.
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`In forming my opinions, I have reviewed, considered, and had access to the
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`patent specifications and claims, its prosecution history, the proposed claim con-
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`structions, the Petition, the Shah declaration, and documents cited in the Petition and
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`the Shah declaration, as well as the transcripts from the deposition of Mr. Shah. I
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`have also relied on my professional and academic experience. I reserve the right to
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`consider additional materials as I become aware of them and to revise my opinions
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`accordingly.
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`II. QUALIFICATIONS
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`3.
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`My qualifications for forming the opinions set forth in this Declaration are
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`summarized here and explained in more detail in my curriculum vitae, which is at-
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`tached as Exhibit 2009.
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`4.
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`As indicated therein, I have a Bachelor of Science degree in Electrical Engi-
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`neering with a power option from Brigham Young University (1991), and Masters
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`(1992) and Doctoral (1996) degrees in Electric Power Engineering from Rensselaer
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`Polytechnic Institute. Electric Power Engineering is a discipline of engineering in
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`which principles of physics and electrical science are applied to practical applica-
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`tions pertaining to the production, transmission, distribution and utilization of elec-
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`trical energy.
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`5.
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`Through the course of my education, I participated in multiple research pro-
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`jects that included topics related to electric power transmission system efficiency
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`and power transformer reliability. Practical applications of simulation, physical
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`modeling, data acquisition and assimilation, and control were all included within the
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`scope of my research projects. The research that I performed led to multiple technical
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`publications, presentations, and a patent, as set forth in the list of publications shown
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`in Exhibit A. Furthermore, internships interspersed with my engineering education
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`provided me with opportunities to work for the electric utility industry in several
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`different areas of interest.
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`6.
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`Upon completion of my doctorate in 1996, I was employed for 4 1/2 years as
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`a member of the faculty at the Colorado School of Mines (CSM) Division of Engi-
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`neering teaching and performing research in the general area of electric power engi-
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`neering. I developed and taught courses in Electric Machinery, Electric Power
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`Systems, High Power Electronics, and practical applications of design, control and
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`instrumentation for electronic systems. A significant element of all of these courses
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`was energy efficiency and management. My research efforts at CSM in association
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`with the Center for Advanced Control of Electric Power Systems (ACEPS), included
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`energy efficiency projects and diagnostics and monitoring of electric power equip-
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`ment.
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`7.
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`Overlapping with my employment at CSM, I consulted with NEI Electric
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`Power Engineering, including participation in design and energy efficiency studies
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`for industrial facilities. I also began working as an electrical forensic engineer at
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`Knott Laboratory, LLC, which evolved into a full-time position in January 2000. In
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`my various positions at Knott Laboratory, I investigated and became familiar with a
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`wide range of electrical failures and accidents, including many control system fail-
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`ures related to industrial, commercial, and residential HVAC systems. Subsequent
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`to my employment at CSM, I began teaching on a part-time basis at the Electrical
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`Engineering Department of the University of Colorado, Denver (UCD). The courses
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`I taught at UCD included Power Systems Analysis and Electrical Forensic Engineer-
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`ing.
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`8.
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`In 2009, I established Palmer Engineering and Forensics, LLC, and I continue
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`to lead that company as its president and principal engineer at the present time. In
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`addition to my administrative responsibilities, I provide consulting engineering ser-
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`vices to insurance companies, attorneys, utilities, and other companies, related to
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`electrical equipment and system failures and accidents, fires, and system improve-
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`ments. I also serve currently as an associate professor (lecturer) in the Department
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`of Electrical and Computer Engineering at the University of Utah teaching a variety
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`of topics including Power System Analysis, Power System Protection, Power Elec-
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`tronics, and Electrical Forensic Engineering and Failure Analysis. As a faculty mem-
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`ber at the University of Utah, I also consult with students in their various research
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`and design projects and serve on various graduate thesis committees.
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`9. While my extensive engineering education (9 years university education in-
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`cluding bachelor’s, master’s, and doctoral degrees) and career (26 years since my
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`PhD) are fully applicable to the subject matter at hand, following are a variety of
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`examples of experience that is more specifically applicable: 1) as a homeowner and
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`as a business owner, I have installed residential wiring, commercial lighting, com-
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`munication cables and networks, thermostats (including researching and specifying),
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`and various other devices and systems; 2) As a doctoral student, my research in-
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`cluded extensive work with a testbed that included temperature monitoring and con-
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`trol, including data acquisition and logging; 3) As a member of the faculty at the
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`Colorado School of Mines, I taught laboratory classes that included data acquisition
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`and control including temperature monitoring and control, as well as overseeing a
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`significant laboratory upgrade that included sensors, controls, and networking. I
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`have also taught numerous lectures on topics such as energy efficiency, power sys-
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`tem operation and control, the nature of the power grid, demand side management,
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`etc.; 4) As an engineering consultant I have evaluated and investigated numerous
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`control systems which included sensors (including temperature sensors), actuators,
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`and controllers. Examples include at least 10 commercial and industrial HVAC sys-
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`tems that were involved in fire incidents, a residential thermostat that failed causing
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`overtemperature in a residence, numerous residential fires associated with boilers,
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`furnaces and air conditioners, a power plant fuel safety system involved in an explo-
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`sion, several chemical production facilities, and at least two industrial paint ovens.
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`In performing these evaluations and investigations, I have had to understand the
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`thermostat performs and functions and how the performance and functions enable
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`control the HVAC system. I also performed in-depth analysis of various smart ther-
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`mostats and other HVAC control systems in the context of intellectual property liti-
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`gation.
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`10.
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`I am a registered professional engineer in seven states namely: Utah, Arizona,
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`Colorado, Alabama, Florida, Wyoming, and Idaho.
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`11.
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`Through my considerable education and experience, I have developed a strong
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`understanding of the practices and terminology of the electric power industry, energy
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`efficiency objectives and implementation, energy control systems, load management
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`technologies and procedures, HVAC operation and control, etc.
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`III. BACKGROUND OF THE ‘597 PATENT
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`12.
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`The inventors of the ’597 patent are John Steinberg, Scott Hublou, and Leo
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`Cheung, and the ’597 patent claims priority to US application 12/778/052, and Pro-
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`visional Application No. 61/215,999 filed on May 12, 2009. The ’597 patent is en-
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`titled “System, method and apparatus for identifying manual inputs to and adaptive
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`programming of a thermostat.” The ’597 patent was issued after the USPTO cited
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`and considered numerous prior art references. See, e.g., Ex. 1001, Pages 1-3 of
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`the ’597 patent.
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`13.
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`The ’597 patent teaches “[s]ystems and methods are disclosed for incorporat-
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`ing manual changes to the setpoint for a thermostatic controller into long-term pro-
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`gramming of the thermostatic controller. For example, one or more of the exemplary
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`systems compares the actual setpoint at a given time for the thermostatic controller
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`to an expected setpoint for the thermostatic controller in light of the scheduled pro-
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`gramming. A determination is then made as to whether the actual setpoint and the
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`expected setpoint are the same or different. Furthermore, a manual change to the
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`actual setpoint for the thermostatic controller is compared to previously recorded
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`setpoint data for the thermostatic controller. At least one rule is then applied for the
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`interpretation of the manual change in light of the previously recorded setpoint data.”
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`Ex. 1001, ‘597 patent at Abstract; see also, e.g., Figs. 1-10.
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`14.
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`The ’597 patent recognized that “the advantages of a programmable thermo-
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`stat depend on the match between the preferences of the occupants and the actual
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`settings employed. If, for example, the thermostat is set to warm up the house on
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`winter mornings at 7 AM, but the homeowner gets up at 5:30, the homeowner is
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`likely to be dissatisfied. If a homeowner has programmed her thermostat to cool
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`down the house at 5 PM each afternoon based on the assumption that she will come
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`home at 6 PM, but her schedule changes and she begins to arrive home at 4:30 each
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`day, she is likely to be uncomfortable and either make frequent manual changes or
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`go through the generally non-intuitive process of reprogramming the thermostat to
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`match her new schedule. Because the limited interface on most thermostats, that
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`process may take considerable effort, which leads many users to avoid reprogram-
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`ming their thermostats for long periods or even to skip doing so entirely.” Ex. 1001,
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`‘597 patent at 1:45-60.
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`15.
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`The ‘597 patents further states that it “would therefore be advantageous to
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`have a means for adapting to signaling from occupants in the form of manual tem-
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`perature changes and incorporating the information contained in such gestures into
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`long-term programming. It would also be desirable to take into account both outside
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`weather conditions and the thermal characteristics of individual homes in order to
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`improve the ability to dynamically achieve the best possible balance between com-
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`fort and energy savings.” Id. at 2:9-17.
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`16.
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`The ‘597 patent describes various embodiments to address the shortcomings
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`of prior art systems. For example, Fig. 7 illustrates an example for detecting the
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`occurrence of a manual override event. Id. at Fig. 7, 5:54-6:30; see also, e.g., Id. at
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`2:50-5:53, 6:30-8:5.
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`IV. LEGAL PRINCIPLES
`17. Anticipation: I understand that invalidation by anticipation under 35 U.S.C.
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`§ 102 applies only if a single alleged prior art reference discloses each and every
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`limitation of the claim at issue, either expressly or inherently. In other words, every
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`limitation of the claim must appear in a single prior art reference for the reference to
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`anticipate that claim. A requirement of a claim that is not expressly disclosed in a
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`prior art may be disclosed inherently only if that missing requirement is necessarily
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`present in that prior art. I also understand that all elements of the claim must be
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`disclosed in the reference as they are arranged in the claim. I also understand that to
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`be considered anticipatory, the prior art reference must be enabling and must de-
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`scribe the patentee's claimed invention sufficiently to have placed it in the possession
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`of a person of ordinary skill in the art (“POSITA”). I further understand that, if a
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`prior art reference fails to disclose an element of an independent claim, then that
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`reference also cannot anticipate any dependent claim that is based on that independ-
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`ent claim.
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`18. Obviousness: I understand that a patent may be rendered “obvious” based on
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`an alleged prior art reference or a combination of such references plus what a person
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`of ordinary skill in the art would understand based on his or her knowledge and the
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`references. I understand that a patent cannot be properly granted for subject matter
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`that would have been obvious to a person of ordinary skill in the art at the time of
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`the alleged invention, and that a patent claim directed to such obvious subject matter
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`is invalid under 35 U.S.C. § 103. It is also my understanding that in assessing the
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`obviousness of claimed subject matter one should evaluate obviousness over the
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`prior art from the perspective of one of ordinary skill in the art at the time the inven-
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`tion was made, and not from the perspective of either a layman or a genius in that
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`art. The existence of each and every element of the claimed invention in multiple
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`prior art references/systems does not necessarily prove obviousness. Most, if not
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`all, inventions rely on building blocks of prior art. Obviousness may be found where
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`there is a preponderance of the evidence that the differences between the subject
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`matter sought to be patented and the prior art are such that the subject matter as a
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`whole would have been obvious at the time the invention was made to a person hav-
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`ing ordinary skill in the art to which said subject matter pertains. Further, I under-
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`stand that the combination and arrangement of the elements from the different prior
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`art references/systems must be obvious to a person of ordinary skill in the art. There
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`must be a motivation to make the combination, though that motivation can come
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`from the knowledge of a person of ordinary skill in the art. I further understand that
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`an obviousness assertion cannot be based on hindsight reasoning and must be sup-
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`ported by more than conclusory expert testimony.
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`19.
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`It is my understanding that in determining whether any of the claims is obvi-
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`ous, I should consider whether there was a reason that would have prompted a person
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`having ordinary skill in the art to combine the known elements in a way the claimed
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`invention does, taking into account such factors as (1) whether the claimed invention
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`was merely the predictable result of using prior art elements according to their
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`known function(s); (2) whether the claimed invention provides an obvious solution
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`to a known problem in the relevant field; (3) whether the prior art teaches or suggests
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`the desirability of combining elements claimed in the invention; (4) whether the prior
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`art teaches away from combining elements in the claimed invention; (5) whether it
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`would have been obvious to try the combinations of elements, such as when there is
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`a design need or market pressure to solve a problem and there are a finite number of
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`identified, predictable solutions; and (6) whether the change resulted more from de-
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`sign incentives or other market forces. To render a claim obvious, the prior art must
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`have provided a reasonable expectation of success
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`20.
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`It is my further understanding that the question of obviousness is to be deter-
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`mined based on:
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` The scope and content of the prior art;
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` The difference or differences between the subject matter of the claim and the
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`prior art (whereby in assessing the possibility of obviousness one should con-
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`sider the manner in which a patentee and/or a court has construed the scope
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`of a claim);
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` The level of ordinary skill in the art at the time of the alleged invention of the
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`subject matter of the claim; and,
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` It is my understanding that to determine whether it would have been obvious
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`to combine known elements in the manner claimed in a patent, one may con-
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`sider such things as the interrelated teachings of multiple patents, the effects
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`of demands known to the design community or present in the marketplace,
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`and the background knowledge of one with ordinary skill in the art.
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`21.
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`It is my understanding that I should also consider any objective factors / evi-
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`dence (sometimes called “secondary considerations” or “secondary indicia”) that
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`may have existed at the time of the invention and afterwards that may shed light on
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`the obviousness of the claims, such as:
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` Whether the invention was commercially successful as a result of the merits
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`of the claimed invention (rather than the result of design needs or market-
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`pressure advertising or similar activities);
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` Whether the invention satisfied a long-felt but unmet need;
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` Whether others had tried and failed to make the invention;
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` Whether others invented the invention at roughly the same time;
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` Whether others copied the invention;
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` Whether there were changes or related technologies or market needs contem-
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`poraneous with the invention;
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` Whether the invention achieved unexpected results;
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` Whether others in the field praised the invention;
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` Whether persons having ordinary skill in the art of the invention expressed
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`surprise or disbelief regarding the invention;
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` Whether others sought or obtained rights to the patent from the patent holder;
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`and
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` Whether the inventor proceeded contrary to accepted wisdom in the field.
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`22. Rebutting Assertions of Invalidity: To rebut an assertion of invalidity it is
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`my understanding that it is only necessary to show that at least one of the limitations
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`of an allowed claim is not found in the prior art, and that is what I have done for
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`each challenged claim and for each item of allegedly invalidating prior art. In other
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`words, in rebutting the allegations of invalidity, it has not been necessary for me to
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`demonstrate that each and every limitation of an asserted claim is missing from the
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`art and/or combinations of art. I note, however, that my decision not to address
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`certain elements of the asserted claims should not be considered an admission that
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`such elements are found in the art.
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`LEVEL OF A PERSON OF ORDINARY SKILL IN THE ART
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`23.
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`I understand that in evaluating the validity of the ‘597 patent claims, the con-
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`tent of a patent or printed publication prior art should be interpreted the way a person
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`of ordinary skill in the art (“POSITA”) would have interpreted the prior art as of the
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`effective filing date of the challenged patent.
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`24.
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`I understand that factors that may be considered in determining the level of
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`ordinary skill in the art at the time of the effective filing date of the challenged pa-
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`tents include: (1) the educational level of the inventor; (2) type of problems encoun-
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`tered in the art; (3) prior art solutions to those problems; (4) rapidity with which
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`innovations are made; (5) sophistication of the technology; and (6) educational level
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`of active workers in the field.
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`25.
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`Petitioner and Mr. Shah assert that a person of ordinary skill in the art
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`(“POSITA”) for the ‘597 patent is someone having “at least (1) a Bachelor’s degree
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`in engineering, computer science, or a comparable field of study, and (2) five years
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`of (i) professional experience in building energy management and controls, or (ii)
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`relevant industry experience. Additional relevant industry experience may compen-
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`sate for lack of formal education or vice versa.” Pet. at 21 (citing Ex. 1002, ¶¶26-
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`28). Further, Mr. Shah testified that a “person who knows how thermostats functions
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`and can be made to function to control the HVAC system” would be a person with
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`experience in building energy management and controls. Ex. 2010, April 6, 2021,
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`Deposition Transcripts of Mr. Rajenda Shah, IPR2021-01218 (“Shah Dep. Tr.”) at
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`28:25-29:5.
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`26. Although I meet the requirements of a POSITA under Petitioner’s definition,
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`I disagree with it. I understand that a POSITA would have a bachelor’s degree in
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`engineering, computer science, or a comparable field, with 2-3 years’ experience in
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`temperature controls, embedded control systems, electronic thermostats, or HVAC
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`controls, or similarly relevant industry experience, with relevant experience substi-
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`tuting for education and vice versa. This understanding is based on my own experi-
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`ence. It is also based on the claim construction ruling in the ITC investigation
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`captioned Smart Thermostat Systems, Smart HVAC Systems, Smart HVAC Control
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`Systems, and Components Thereof, U.S. Int’l Trade Comm’n, 337-TA-1258 (the
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`1258 Investigation”). Both Petitioner and Patent Owner are parties to the 1258 In-
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`vestigation, and the claim construction ruling involved U.S. Patent No. 8,596,550
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`(the “‘550 patent”). Ex. 2011, 1258 Investigation, Order No. 18 - Construing the
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`Terms of the Asserted Claims, at 1. The ‘597 patent claims priority to the ‘550 pa-
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`tent. Ex. 1001. In the 1258 Investigation, the Administrative Law Judge (“ALJ”)
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`determined that “a bachelor’s degree in engineering, computer science, or a compa-
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`rable field, with 2-3 years’ experience in temperature controls, embedded control
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`systems, electronic thermostats, or HVAC controls, or similarly relevant industry
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`experience, with relevant experience substituting for education and vice versa.” Ex.
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`2011, at 8. Notably, although the ALJ’s holding occurred on September 1, 2021, Mr.
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`Shah was not aware of this decision, nor did he factor it into his opinions. Ex. 2012,
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`October 10, 2022, Deposition Transcripts of Mr. Rajenda Shah, IPR2022-00538, at
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`17:12-19:13.
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`27. Under either of the above definitions, I am qualified as being a person of at
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`least ordinary skill in the arts pertaining to the subject patents.
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`28. As an example of a flaw in Petitioner’s proposed definition of a POSITA, it
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`should be noted that a building energy management system, as the phrase is gener-
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`ally applied, describes a complex implementation of multiple sensors, processors,
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`actuators, and other components and devices integrated into a large commercial
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`building or multiplicity of buildings such as on a campus. The building energy man-
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`agement system will generally control not only the HVAC system but also other
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`power consumers such as elevators, escalators, lighting, and other equipment. By
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`contrast, the subject matter of the ‘597 patent is focused on residential and similar
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`smaller-scale structures that do not require the sophistication of controls that are in-
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`tegral to typical building energy management systems.
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`29.
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` I have used the perspective of a POSITA, as I have defined that individual, at
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`the time of the priority date of the ‘597 patent to form my opinions in reply to the
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`Petition and Mr. Shah’s opinions.
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`VI. CLAIM CONSTRUCTION PRINCIPLES
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`30.
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`I understand that “claim construction” is the process of determining a patent
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`claim’s meaning. I also have been informed and understand that the proper construc-
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`tion of a claim term is the plain and ordinary meaning that a person of ordinary skill
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`in the art would have given to that term in light of the specification. In performing
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`my analyses set forth in this declaration, I have interpreted all claim terms based
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`upon their plain and ordinary meaning, as they would have been understood by a
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`POSITA, as of the effective filing date, in the context of the ‘597 patent.
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`31.
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`I understand that the Board does not construe claim terms unnecessary to re-
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`solving the controversy. Petitioner states that the ITC investigation captioned Smart
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`HVAC Systems and Components Thereof 337-TA-1185 involved U.S. Pat. No.
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`10,018,371, and that claim 9 of the ‘371 patent recites a limitation similar to the
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`“detecting manual change” limitation of the ‘597 patent. Pet. at 11-12. The Initial
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`Determination from the 1185 investigation was provided as Exhibit 1017 to the Pe-
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`tition. However, the Initial Determination provided is heavily redacted, particularly
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`at pages 396-402, which were cited by Petitioner and Mr. Shah. Thus, it is difficult
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`to verify the accuracy of the statement that “EcoFactor argued that the ‘detecting a
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`manual setpoint change’ limitation was met when the relevant comparison was car-
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`ried out, regardless of whether the system had previously detected a setpoint change,
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`and regardless of whether the system could retrieve complete manual setpoint
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`change information from its memory.” Pet. at 12, see also, Ex. 1002, at ¶45. When
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`asked about this statement in his deposition, Mr. Shah was unable to identify where
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`in the Initial Determination from the 1185 investigation that provided support. Ex.
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`2012, October 10, 2022, Deposition Transcripts of Mr. Rajenda Shah, IPR2022-
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`00538, at 23:22-24:15. Instead, he noted that “there are a lot of redactions on this”
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`Initial Determination and admitted that he had never seen the unredacted document.
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`Id.
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`32. Nevertheless, the claim terms of the ‘597 patent should be given their plain
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`and ordinary meaning.
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`VII. GENERAL COMMENTS ON THE SHAH REPORT
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`33.
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`In his declaration dated January 31, 2022, Mr. Rajendra Shah expressed his
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`opinions regarding the “unpatentability” of the ‘597 patent. Some inaccuracies and
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`mischaracterizations were observed in his introductory comments and his analyses
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`that are addressed here.
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`34. Of particular note is a phrase which Mr. Shah references frequently from the
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`Ehlers reference and relies on heavily throughout his report. Given that his use of
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`the phrase is relied on so heavily, I will address it here and reference these comments
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`in rebutting particular points and assertions made by Mr. Shah in his claim mapping
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`section. The phrase is “thermal gain.”
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`35. Mr. Shah introduces his position as follows: “Ehlers ‘330 also teaches using
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`a rate of changes (sic) in temperatures inside the structure in response to at least
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`changes in outside temperatures. For example, Ehlers ‘330 teaches calculating the
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`rate at which inside temperature changes at any given outside temperature (i.e. the
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`“thermal gain rate”) for a given setpoint…” Ex. 1002, at ¶55. Mr. Shah further ex-
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`presses “In my opinion, the ‘rate of thermal gain,’ ‘thermal rate of gain,’ or ‘thermal
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`gain rate’ in Ehlers ‘330 is the rate of changes in temperature inside the structure.”
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`Ex. 1002 at ¶93. In other words, rather than interpret Ehlers’ phrase “thermal gain
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`rate” as it would be understood by a person having ordinary skill in the art and as it
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`is used intrinsically by Ehlers ‘330 in his specification, Mr. Shah applies impermis-
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`sible hindsight in view of the ‘597 patent to define Ehlers’ ‘330 phrase “thermal gain
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`rate” as “a rate of c

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