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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`EPIC GAMES, INC.,
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`Case No. IPR2022-00295
`Patent No. 10,492,038
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`PATENT OWNER’S SUR-REPLY
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`Mail Stop PATENT BOARD, PTAB
`Commissioner for Patents
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`TABLE OF CONTENTS
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`II. GROUND I – HULLFISH COMBINED WITH TANIGAWA
`DOES NOT OBVIATE CLAIMS 7, 10-12, 22-24, 33-36,
`38-41,46,49,51-53, 55, 57-58, AND 64-66 TO A POSITA
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`INTRODUCTION ………………………………………………
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`A. No Rebuttal Testimony …………………………………
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`Petitioner’s Attacks Of Dr. Rouskas Are Baseless ……...
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`A. No Motivation To Combine ……………….…….……
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`[7.0] The Alleged Combination Does Not Teach
`A Network Based Portal (“NBP”) …………….……..
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`[7.1] The Alleged Combination Does Not Teach A “Prior
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`[7.3] “Any Of The Plurality Of Modes Of
`Communication” “All Depending On An Identifier”
`Is Not Obviated By Tanigawa And Hullfish ..……..…….
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`[7.4] “Block” Is Not Rendered Obvious By The
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`[7.5] Is Not Rendered Obvious By The Alleged
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`[7.8] Is Not Rendered Obvious By The Alleged
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`III. GROUND II – CLAIMS 8, 9, 43, 44, 47, 48, 50, AND 54
`ARE NOT RENDERED OBVIOUS BY TANIGAWA
`IN VIEW OF HULLFISH AND LOVELAND …………….
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`IV. GROUND III – CLAIMS 37, 42, 56, 59–63, AND 67
`GROUNDIII — CLAIMS37, 42, 56, 59-63, AND 67
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`VIEW OF HULLFISH AND TAKAHASHI ……………………
`VIEW OF HULLFISH AND TAKAHASHI....................004.
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`V. GROUND IV – CLAIM 45 IS NOT RENDERED OBVIOUS
`GROUNDIV — CLAIM 45 IS NOT RENDERED OBVIOUS
`BY TANIGAWA IN VIEW OF HULLFISH, LOVELAND,
`BY TANIGAWAIN VIEW OF HULLFISH, LOVELAND,
`AND TAKAHASHI ………………………………………..
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`PATENT OWNER’S EXHIBIT LIST
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`Complaint
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`Epic Games Inc.’s Preliminary Invalidity Contentions
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`Order Setting Markman Hearing
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`Epic Games Inc.’s Opening Claim Construction Brief
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`Declaration of Dr. George N. Rouskas, Ph.D.
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`Decision Denying Institution, IPR2022-00297
`(PTAB May 26, 2022)
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`Judge Chang, IPR2022-00294, Paper No. 13
`(PTAB June 7, 2022) (dissent)
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`CV of Dr. George N. Rouskas, Ph.D.
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`U.S. Patent Application 2002/0116461 (“Diacakis”)
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`Exhibit 2001
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`Exhibit 2002
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`Exhibit 2003
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`Exhibit 2004
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`Exhibit 2005
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`Exhibit 2006
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`Exhibit 2007
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`Exhibit 2008
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`Exhibit 2009
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`INTRODUCTION
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`A. No Rebuttal Testimony
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`Petitioner’s Reply does not include any rebuttal testimony from an expert
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`even though it could have. Practice Guide at 73. As a result, Petitioner’s Reply is
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`based on attorney argument and the original Petition Declaration. More
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`importantly, Dr. Rouskas’s POR Declaration and his deposition testimony stand
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`unrebutted.
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`Petitioner’s Attacks On Dr. Rouskas Are Baseless
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`First, Petitioner cross-examined (deposed) Dr. Rouskas for two days. Exhibit
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`1043. Dr. Rouskas testified at length regarding his opinions to the point that
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`Petitioner’s counsel interrupted Dr. Rouskas because Petitioner believed that Dr.
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`Rouskas’s testimony was too detailed. Id. at 265-66. Tellingly, Petitioner does not
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`cite to any cross-examination question that Dr. Rouskas was not able to answer.
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`Dr. Rouskas testified that the opinions expressed in his Declaration (Exhibit 2001)
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`are his own and that he spent “anywhere between 80 and 100 hours” preparing his
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`Declaration. Id. at 24-25.
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`Second, Petitioner’s reliance on Hulu and Juniper Networks is inapplicable.
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`Petitioner failed to provide a single example of how Dr. Rouskas’s testimony is
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`“cursory or unsupported”. That the POR relies upon and incorporates Dr.
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`Rouskas’s testimony is the norm in IPR practice. Doing otherwise risks exclusion.
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`Practice Guide at 35-36 (Ҥ 42.6(a)(3) prohibits incorporating arguments by
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`reference from one document into another. Thus, parties that incorporate expert
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`testimony by reference … risk having the testimony not considered by the
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`Board.”).
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`Finally, the rule of completeness shows that Dr. Rouskas did not contradict
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`his Declaration testimony. Fed. R. Evid. 106. Indeed, Petitioner had four attorneys
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`and its expert, Dr. Almeroth, attend in person Dr. Rouskas’s deposition. Exhibit
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`1043 at 3-4. Petitioner’s five-person team huddled during breaks to review the
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`real-time transcript in an effort to create out of context “sound bites” that Petitioner
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`could use to distort Dr. Rouskas’s testimony by asking, re-asking, and asking again
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`the same question in a manner that would never be allowed in a “live” trial. Of
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`course, Petitioner’s Reply never addresses any one of PO’s objections to
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`Petitioner’s “asked and answered” questioning scheme.
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`Rather than trying to tarnish the reputation of a Distinguished Graduate
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`Professor at N.C. State University, a better approach would have been to submit a
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`rebuttal declaration from Dr. Almeroth who theoretically could have rebutted Dr.
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`Rouskas’s testimony if it truly is so baseless. Exhibit 2008 at 1; Exhibit 1043 at 4.
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`II. GROUND I – HULLFISH COMBINED WITH TANIGAWA DOES
`NOT OBVIATE CLAIMS 7, 10-12, 22-24, 33-36, 38-41,46,49,51-53, 55,
`57-58, AND 64-66 TO A POSITA
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`A. No Motivation To Combine
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`The POR shows there is no motivation to combine Tanigawa and Hullfish.
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`POR at 8-12. Petitioner’s Reply argument is incorrect.
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`First, PO does not contend that “the Petition proposes using the entirety of
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`Hullfish’s ‘electronic message forwarding method’ within Tanigawa ….” Reply at
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`6-7. Petitioner mischaracterizes PO’s position and Dr. Rouskas’s testimony. PO
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`listed several aspects in which the entirety of Hullfish is incompatible with the
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`Tanigawa system. POR at 8-12. As explained below, however, PO also pointed
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`out that the specific blocking features of Hullfish that Petitioner relies on would be
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`impossible to implement in Tanigawa’s system. Id.
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`Second, PO’s motivation to combine arguments focus on fundamental and
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`principal differences in design and operation between Tanigawa and Hullfish. POR
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`at 12-14. Petitioner characterizes the differences as “minute” and
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`“inconsequential” but does not even attempt to explain how these incompatibilities
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`between the Tanigawa system and Hullfish’s blocking features could be overcome.
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`Reply at 7-8. Specifically, any and all of Hullfish’s one-to-one blocking features
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`based on the sender’s address or phone number would not work with Tanigawa’s
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`system because (1) Tanigawa’s users “join a group after receiving invitations from
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`a server, not from another user” (POR at 13) and (2) Tanigawa teaches that users
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`send their messages to a conference room address at a server, the server mixes
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`messages from the various users, and then forwards them to the group. In other
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`words, users receive messages from a server’s address not from the address of
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`another user (POR at 2-3, 5, 7, and 32-33). Therefore, it is not possible for a
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`Tanigawa user to selectively block another user as Petitioner argues. Similarly,
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`Hullfish’s method of blocking a user based on its message’s contents would fail
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`because each user receives a “synthesized mix” of messages from the server “with
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`no information of who said what” (POR at 32-33). Petitioner’s Reply does not
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`address these POR arguments. Petitioner therefore failed to meet its burden of
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`proof. 37 C.F.R. § 42.1(d); Practice Guide at 42.
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`Regarding the blocking of “abusive messages”, PO established that it would
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`not be technically possible for a Tanigawa user who receives a “synthesized mix”
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`of messages from a server to block messages from a specific user. POR at 5 and
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`32-33.
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`Regarding one-to-one blocking in group chatting, Dr. Rouskas further
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`explained that allowing one participant to block another participant would result in
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`a chaotic situation that defeats the fundamental purpose of a group communication
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`in Tanigawa, i.e., engage in the exchange of ideas among the participants. Exhibit
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`1043 at 341:12-343:16. As Dr. Rouskas pointed out, when a participant A blocks a
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`participant B, A will not hear what B says. Id. When a third participant C responds
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`to something B said, A will not be able to follow the discussion, understand what is
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`said, or respond appropriately – completely undermining the purpose of group
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`discussion in Tanigawa. Therefore, allowing the one-to-one blocking feature of
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`Hullfish in Tanigawa’s system (assuming it were possible to do so, which it is not),
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`would result in chaos in Tanigawa. Id.
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`Regarding the motivation to “avoid messages at inconvenient times”,
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`Petitioner fails to understand the nature of Tanigawa’s system. As the POR clearly
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`explains, participants join the group chat only after accepting an invitation. If the
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`invitation arrives at an inconvenient time, a participant may simply decline it as
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`Tanigawa teaches; there is no need or motivation to implement an additional one-
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`to-one blocking feature. POR at 10, 12-13, and 33-34.
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`Third, Dr. Rouskas did not admit “that PO’s arguments boil down to a
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`POSITA’s inability to ‘incorporate’ Hullfish wholly into Tanigawa’s system.”
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`Reply at 8. Petitioner again mischaracterizes PO’s position and does not even
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`attempt to address either the POR arguments or Dr. Rouskas’s testimony. PO
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`established that (1) Hullfish’s blocking features would fail in Tanigawa’s system
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`(see above), and (2) even if, hypothetically, one-to-one blocking were technically
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`possible in Tanigawa’s system, it would be a nonsensical solution that a POSITA
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`would not be motivated to implement. Exhibit 1043 at 315:14-316:9, 341:12-
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`More fundamentally, Petitioner’s Reply does not address PO’s argument that
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`Tanigawa’s system, by design and implementation, is for communication “among
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`buddies, i.e., users who have mutually agreed to engage in communication.” POR
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`at 9. In Tanigawa, buddies would not wish to block other buddies during a group
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`conversation and Tanigawa teaches they can decline invitations that come at an
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`inconvenient time. Id. Petitioner therefore failed to meet its burden of proof. 37
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`C.F.R. § 42.1(d); Practice Guide at 42.
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`[7.0] The Alleged Combination Does Not Teach A Network Based
`Portal (“NBP”)
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`The Reply “first” argues that there is nothing to limit the claimed portal to a
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`server or a website. Reply at 10. The POR shows that in the ʼ038 patent a “portal”
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`and a “gateway” are used synonymously; and a “gateway” is a “networked server”.
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`POR at 17-18. Petitioner’s Reply is incorrect and is not supported by any rebuttal
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`expert testimony. Petitioner therefore failed to meet its burden of proof. 37 C.F.R.
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`§ 42.1(d); Practice Guide at 42.
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`Petitioner’s unsupported arguments are contradicted by Petitioner’s Reply
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`Exhibit 1042, which states “[a] mobile portal is an Internet gateway that enables
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`mobile devices to connect remotely ... typically via a Web browser interface.”
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`Thus, Exhibit 1042 defines a “portal” as an Internet “gateway” and differentiates it
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`from a web browser interface, which is only used to connect a device to the portal.
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`The definition of a portal in Exhibit 1042 is consistent with Dr. Rouskas’s
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`testimony. Exhibit 1043 at 90:4-9, 91:10-15. As explained, when a user wishes to
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`connect to a portal, they type the URL of the portal in the browser interface of their
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`device and establish a connection to the portal which is a computer/server distinct
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`from the user’s device. Id. at 80:7-81:22. Reply Exhibit 1041 also contradicts
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`Petitioner’s attorney-only arguments as it defines a “portal” as a “platform,” not a
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`user interface. Exhibit 1041.
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`Moreover, that a definition includes the term “interface” does not mean a
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`“portal” is an interface. The term “interface” is used to indicate how a user
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`accesses the portal (i.e., via a web browser interface), not what a portal is. A web
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`browser (as in Petitioner’s definition) is an interface found on all client devices
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`(computers, laptops, phones, etc.) whether those devices access a portal or not. As
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`Dr. Rouskas explained, a user uses their device’s web interface to request content
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`stored at the portal, not on the user’s device. The portal sends the content to the
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`user’s device after it receives the request, and the content is simply displayed on
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`the device via the web browser interface. Exhibit 1043 at 80:1-81:22.
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`Regarding “hosting” a web page, the Petitioner’s exhibit expressly states that
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`devices access the portal by “connect[ing] remotely ... typically via a Web browser
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`interface.” Exhibit 1042. Since the devices use a “Web browser interface” they
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`must necessarily connect to a website hosted at the portal. Id. In fact, the Figure in
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`Petitioner’s Exhibit 1041 shows a “portal” that is consistent with PO’s evidence
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`and Dr. Rouskas’s deposition testimony that a “portal” is not a “user interface” but
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`rather at least includes the server hosting the site WWW.COMPANY.COM (a
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`website), accessible by many:
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`Exhibit 1041 at 2. User RAY in the figure types the URL into his browser to
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`connect to the server of the portal site; the server collects information from various
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`sources at the site to present to user RAY via the web browser interface. Exhibit
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`1043 at 80:7-81:22. “Portals represent an early paradigm shift for enterprises
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`online, which was to build websites that were customer-centric, rather than
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`business-centric. Ideally, a portal enables an enterprise to design sites and
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`navigations that are based on the user’s needs, rather than an organizational
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`structure that only makes sense internally.” Exhibit 1041 at 3 (emphasis added).
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`Second, the Reply argues that PO incorrectly argues the ʼ038 patent defines
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`“portal” as a “gateway” and that a gateway is always a “networked server.” Reply
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`at 10-11. As shown above, however, Petitioner’s own Exhibit 1042 also defines
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`“portal” as a “gateway”. Indeed, Dr. Rouskas’s testimony that to a POSITA the
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`word “or” in the specification means that “portal” and “gateway” are used
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`synonymously is unrebutted. POR at 17; Exhibit 1043 at 90:4-9, 91:10-15.
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`Petitioner therefore failed to meet its burden of proof. 37 C.F.R. § 42.1(d); Practice
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`Guide at 42.
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`Third, the Reply argues that it is a “distinction without a difference” that the
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`NBP and client devices have different functionalities because the NBP allows
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`worldwide access to the user, whereas a client communication device is associated
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`with a user. Reply at 11-12. Figure 12 of Tanigawa shows a user interface of a
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`client resident on a client communication device connected to a network and which
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`Petitioner argues is the claimed NBP:
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`Exhibit 1008 at Fig. 12. As a result, Tanigawa’s user interface is provided by and
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`displayed in an IP terminal on the client-side of the network and Tanigawa’s IP
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`terminals are client communication devices. Id.
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`Petitioner claims that the user interface of Fig. 12 is the claimed NBP
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`because “Tanigawa’s client terminal (1) connects a user to a network via the NBP
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`and (2) is associated with that user.” Reply at 11 (emphasis in original). This
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`statement is wrong. As explained in the POR, “[t]he ʼ038 specification and claims
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`are clear that multiple users may access the ‘portal’.” POR at 22. Specifically,
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`claim element [7.0] requires “each of the plurality of users having an identifier for
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`use with the different communication modes, with the corresponding identifier
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`being set via the network-based portal.” Exhibit 1001, ʼ038 Patent at Claim 7. As
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`the POR demonstrates, user devices are assigned private IP addresses and cannot
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`be accessed from the public Internet; therefore “a user terminal/communication
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`device allows access to its user only” and may not be accessed by other users to set
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`their identifiers. POR at 20-22. Therefore, a user interface at a client
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`terminal/communication device, such as the one shown in Fig. 12, cannot meet this
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`claim element [7.0]. Id. The Reply is silent on this contradiction and does not even
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`attempt to respond to PO’s arguments. Petitioner therefore failed to meet its
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`burden of proof. 37 C.F.R. § 42.1(d); Practice Guide at 42.
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`Fourth, the Reply argues that PO made a strawman argument “that only the
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`sender’s device contains the NBP”. Reply at 12. Petitioner mischaracterizes PO’s
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`position and its argument contains several incorrect statements. PO never claimed
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`“that only the sender’s device contains the NBP.” The POR simply stated that
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`Tanigawa’ user interface in Fig. 12 is on a user device: “Fig. 12 is a diagram
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`showing an example of a user interface of an IM client, which is displayed in an IP
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`terminal 7.” Exhibit 1010 at [0025]. Therefore, according to Tanigawa, each IP
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`terminal 7-1, 7-2, and 7-3 of Fig. 1 includes the user interface of Fig. 12:
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`Exhibit 1010 at Fig. 1. The Reply admits as much: “all users of Tanigawa’s
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`system access it via client terminals (7-1, 7-2, 7-3), which contain a user interface
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`that connects clients to a network”. Reply at 12 (emphasis in original).
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`The Reply, however, then claims that all these user interfaces are
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`Petitioner’s claimed NBP: “all users (including senders and recipients) use
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`Tanigawa’s NBP to connect to Tanigawa’s network-i.e., the NBP does not solely
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`exist in a sender’s device” and “all users of Tanigawa’s system access it via client
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`terminals (7-1, 7-2, 7-3), which contain a user interface that connects clients to a
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`network (i.e., the NBP), indicating that both senders and recipients use this
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`interface.” Reply at 12. But there is no NBP taught in Tanigawa, let alone a single
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`“Tanigawa’s NBP” as the Reply claims; rather, Tanigawa teaches, and the Reply
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`admits, that the user interface of Figure 12 exists in all IP terminals (e.g., 7-1, 7-2,
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`and 7-3 in Fig. 1). The Reply does not point to any specific one of these interfaces
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`as the single NBP via which the plurality of users set their corresponding identifier,
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`as claim element [7.0] requires. Instead, it collectively refers to these distinct user
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`interfaces as “Tanigawa’s NBP” completely sidestepping the claim requirement of
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`a single portal via which each of the plurality of users set their corresponding
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`identifier.
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`PO’s argument, which Petitioner mischaracterizes, was simply that the
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`single NBP of the claims cannot exist on a user device because the user device can
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`be accessed by its own user but cannot be accessed by any other user (e.g., to set
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`the other user’s identifier). For instance, in Fig. 1, the user of IP terminal 7-1 may
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`connect to the network via Tanigawa’s user interface at IP terminal 7-1 and the
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`user of IP terminal 7-2 may connect to the network via Tanigawa’s user interface
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`at IP terminal 7-2. But there is no teaching of the user of IP terminal 7-1 accessing
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`Tanigawa’s user interface at IP terminal 7-2, and vice versa. Since the claim
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`requires the plurality of users to set their identifiers “via the network-based portal”
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`it follows that (1) the single portal cannot be on a user terminal/device, and (2)
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`Petitioner’s claim that the distinct Tanigawa user interfaces on the various IP
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`terminals are the claimed NBP is wrong. Petitioner therefore failed to meet its
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`burden of proof. 37 C.F.R. § 42.1(d); Practice Guide at 42.
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`Fifth, regarding whether PO’s construction excludes a preferred
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`embodiment (Fig. 7-12), the Reply argues that “because the patent’s figures are
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`embodiments of the patent, they must include an NBP.” Reply at 16. Petitioner
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`completely fails to address the POR’s evidence explaining why Figs. 7-12 are not
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`directed to the use of a NBP. POR at 22-24. Petitioner’s position that every issued
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`claim must encompass every figure/embodiment of a patent is wrong as a matter of
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`law. The fact is that PO’s evidence submitted after the Institution Decision shows
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`that a POSITA would understand that the embodiments of Figs. 7-12 are not
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`directed to NBP operations but are instead directed to client-side operations at a
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`client device; and this post-institution evidence stands unrebutted. Id.
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`Petitioner’s argument that “the client devices described by the ʼ038 Patent
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`enable messages to be received, as annotated in Figure 7 below” is irrelevant and
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`Reply at 15-16. Indeed, Figure 7 does not teach a POSITA the use of a NBP. POR
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`at 22-23. As evidenced in the POR:
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`POR at 23-24. Similar language is used in describing Figures 8-12. Id. Figures 7-
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`12 concern how a recipient user interacting with their client device can respond to
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`an incoming call or message. As a result, a construction that has the NBP at a
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`preferred embodiment, if anything, it enables them. POR 24. Petitioner therefore
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`failed to meet its burden of proof. 37 C.F.R. § 42.1(d); Practice Guide at 42.
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`[7.1] The Alleged Combination Does Not Teach A “Prior
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`The POR proves that neither Tanigawa nor Hullfish teach a user registering
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`with their own client device. POR at 28-29. Petitioner’s Reply is incorrect and is
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`not supported by any rebuttal evidence from the perspective of a POSITA. Reply at
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`16-17. Petitioner therefore failed to meet its burden of proof. 37 C.F.R. § 42.1(d);
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`Practice Guide at 42.
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`As the Petition states and Petitioner admits, [7.1] requires “the first user
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`being identified at least depending on a prior registration process by the first user
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`regarding the use of the network-based portal.” Exhibit 1001, ʼ038 Patent at Claim
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`7 (emphasis added); Petition at 28; and Reply at 17. Both Tanigawa and Hullfish
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`teach that users register their own information (e.g., usernames, addresses, phone
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`numbers, etc.) with a server so as to use the communication services offered at the
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`server. Exhibit 1010 at [0049]-[0054], [0062]-[0065], and [0085]; Exhibit [1011] at
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`5:63-66, 6:12-13, and 10:12-17; and POR at 28. Neither Tanigawa nor Hullfish
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`teach a registration process “regarding the use of the network-based portal;” in
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`fact, the word “portal” does not appear in either Tanigawa or Hullfish.
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`The Reply again mischaracterizes PO’s argument. PO did not “attempt to
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`add extraneous language to the claim” by arguing that Tanigawa and Hullfish do
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`not “teach a user registering with their own device.” Reply at 17. PO simply
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`pointed out that Petitioner’s arguments regarding Petitioner’s claimed NBP and the
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`registration process are contradictory. Specifically, as the POR explained and as
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`discussed above, the user interface of Fig. 12, i.e., Petitioner’s claimed NBP, is on
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`a user terminal/device. A user may simply open and use an interface on their
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`device without first having to register “regarding the use of” that interface (i.e., the
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`claimed NBP). POR at 29. “Therefore, if, as Petitioner contends, the claimed
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`‘network-based portal’ was a ‘user interface that connects clients to a network,’
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`then no registration process would be required.” Id. Conversely, if a registration
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`process is required, then the NBP cannot be an interface on a user terminal/device.
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`D.
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`[7.3] “Any Of The Plurality Of Modes Of Communication” “All
`Depending On An Identifier” Is Not Obviated By Tanigawa And
`Hullfish
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`Petitioner mischaracterizes PO’s argument regarding the combination’s
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`failure to teach “identifiers”. Reply at 18-19. Element [7.3] requires “wherein the
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`messages are eligible to be received … based on any of the plurality of
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`communication modes, all depending on an identifier associated with the second
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`user.” Therefore, the identifier must be sufficient to route the messages to the
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`second user in different communication modes (i.e., at least text messaging and
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`voice communication, per element [7.2]).
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`Contrary to Petitioner’s argument (Reply at 17), and as explained in the POR
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`(POR at 29-31), Tanigawa does not teach this claim element. Specifically,
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`Tanigawa teaches that the nickname (i.e., Petitioner’s claimed “identifier”) is not
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`sufficient to establish communication. Rather, Tanigawa teaches that at a user
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`terminal, “the event analyzing portion 789 receives a specification of an account
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`name of the chat buddy to be invited to the conference room” and sends it to the
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`IM server. Exhibit 1010 at [0131]; POR at 30. The IM server then “identifies
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`records 440 having the account names included in the participation requesting
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`command” and “obtains an address registered in each of the fields 432 of the IM
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`clients, which are determined as being able to participate therein.” Exhibit 1010 at
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`[0132]. Finally, “the participation inviting command is sent to the IM terminal 7-1
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`(account name of the IM client: client D) and the IM terminal 7-3 (account name of
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`the IM client: client F).” Id. at [0133]. Therefore, Tanigawa expressly teaches that
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`to establish communication the addresses in 432 of the clients must be used, and
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`hence, the nickname is not sufficient.
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`Dr. Rouskas stated that a “screen name” such as “taro” is an identifier to
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`contact a buddy in a text messaging system and is different than a phone number
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`that must be used to call that same buddy. Exhibit 1043 at 284:4-291:14.
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`Petitioner also mischaracterizes Figs. 3 and 10 of Tanigawa when it claims
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`that “even where a second user has multiple devices, these devices are identified
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`by the same nickname.” Reply at 17-18.
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`Exhibit 1010 at Figs. 3 and 10. From these two Figures, a POSITA would
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`understand that a nickname such as “hanako” is not sufficient to identify the two
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`devices of user “hanako;” rather, the client name (client D or client E) or better yet
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`the corresponding address is necessary to identify whether user “hanako”
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`communicates with their IP terminal 7-1 or their VoIP telephone 8. Tanigawa also
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`requires a user to register a separate record 440 for each of his/her devices, each
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`record including a separate account name and address that corresponds to the
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`specific device. Exhibit 1010 at [0050] and Fig. 3.
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`Further, with respect to Fig. 10, Tanigawa teaches that users “hanako” and
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`“yoshi” participate in an IM using account names “client D” and “client F,”
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`respectively, (Ex. 1010 at [0116]) but are invited to participate in the voice chat via
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`account names “client E” and “client G,” respectively. Exhibit 1010 at [0145].
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`Fig. 12 of Tanigawa also refutes Petitioner’s argument that the nicknames
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`are sufficient for communication:
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`Exhibit 1010 at Fig. 12. Specifically, the display area for text chatting 140 identify
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`the communicating buddies using their account names, “Client A” and “Client C,”
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`not their nicknames. Similarly, the presence information display area 135
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`identifies buddies using account names, not nicknames. Therefore, Tanigawa
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`expressly teaches that nicknames are not sufficient, and buddies use their account
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`names for communication. Id.
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`E.
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`[7.4] “Block” Is Not Rendered Obvious By The Alleged
`Combination
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`As the Reply fails to address [7.4], Ground I should be denied. POR at 32-
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`34. Petitioner failed to meet its burden of proof. 37 C.F.R. § 42.1(d); Practice
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`Guide at 42.
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`F.
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`[7.5] Is Not Rendered Obvious By The Alleged
`Combination
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`As the Reply also fails to address [7.5], Ground I should be denied. POR at
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`34. Petitioner failed to meet its burden of proof. 37 C.F.R. § 42.1(d); Practice
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`Guide at 42.
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`G.
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`[7.8] Is Not Rendered Obvious By The Alleged
`Combination
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`First, the POR (POR at 35-46) clearly demonstrates that contact information
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`is provided to the user’s IP terminal and is used by the user. The IP terminal
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`“receives an instruction for requesting information regarding chat buddies from the
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`user ‘taro,’” creates “a buddy list requesting command” and sends it “to the IM
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`server.” Exhibit 1010 at [0141]. The IM server receives the request, creates “a
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`buddy list in which information regarding each of the chat buddies is registered
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`including various information (except for the authentication key at least) registered
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`in each of the identified records 440,’’ and sends it to the IP terminal. Exhibit 1010
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`at [0143]. Note that the information in records 440 of Fig. 3 includes “client
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`addresses” 432. Exhibit 1010 at Fig 3 and [0146].
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`The above passages from Tanigawa establish that (1) a user requests
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`information about his/her buddies, and (2) the server returns a “buddy list” that
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`includes information about the user’s buddies, including their client addresses (i.e.,
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`contact information). Exhibit 1010 at [0144] (information written in the buddy list
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`is displayed), [0146] (the voice chatting request includes “client addresses”). The
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`Reply, and Dr. Almeroth, fail to address paragraphs [0141], [0143], [0144], [0146],
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`and Fig. 3. Reply at 27.
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`More specifically with respect to Fig. 3, Petitioner highlights the client
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`addresses (green) and presence information (yellow), but ignores the caption that
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`says “Presence Information Management Table 488”:
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`The presence information is not separate from the client addresses and remaining
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`information in the table; it is managed along with the client addresses. For
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`instance, the presence information “text” in the fifth row is associated with account
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`name “Client D” and the listed client address to identify where the user hanako is
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`available for text messages; whereas the presence information “voice” in the sixth
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`row is associated with account name “Client E” and corresponding client address
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`to identify where the user hanako is available for voice communication. And as
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`explained below, Tanigawa teaches that the client addresses (i.e., contact
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`information) are used by users to initiate communication with their buddies.
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`Second, “Tanigawa teaches that a second user’s address information,
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`contained in field 432, is sent to a first user communication device.” POR at 38-39.
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`The IP terminal receives the buddy list and “causes the output data creating portion
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`786 to display data for information written in the buddy list in the display device,
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`whereby, the information on the chat buddies is notified to the user ‘taro.’ Thus,
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`the user ‘taro’ can check ... whether or not the buddy ... can voice-chat.” Exhibit
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`1010 at [0144]. Also, “in accordance with the instruction ... from the user ‘taro,’”
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`the IP terminal creates “a voice chatting request command including various
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`informations [sic] (such as the account names, the client addresses and the client
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`nicknames) of the IM client of the user ‘taro’ and the IM clients to be invited the
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`chat.” Exhibit 1010 at [0146] (emphasis added).
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`The above passages from Tanigawa further establish that (3) the user’s
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`terminal is in possession of this information and notifies the user, (4) the user
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`accesses (checks) that information, and (5) instructs the terminal to create a voice
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`chatting request with this information (including the client addresses).
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`Dr. Almeroth’s prior statement that the text chatting area of Fig. 12 does not
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`provide contact information is irrelevant for two reasons. First, it ignores the
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`express teachings of Tanigawa summarized above. Second, the “text chatting”
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`area of Fig. 12 as the name implies is for