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`Desmond et al.
`In re Patent of:
`10,423,658 Attorney Docket No.: 39843-0116IP1
`U.S. Patent No.:
`September 24, 2019
`Issue Date:
`Appl. Serial No.: 15/375,927
`December 12, 2016
`Filing Date:
`Title:
`METHOD AND APPARATUS FOR MANAGING DIGITAL
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`SECOND DECLARATION OF DR. PHILIP GREENSPUN
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`Declaration
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`I declare that all statements made herein on my own knowledge are true and
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`that all statements made on information and belief are believed to be true, and
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`further, that these statements were made with the knowledge that willful false
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`statements and the like so made are punishable under Section 1001 of Title 18 of
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`the United States Code.
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`Dated: February 14, 2023
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`By: ________________________________
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`Philip Greenspun, Ph.D.
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`SAMSUNG 1047
`Samsung v. MemoryWeb
`IPR2022-00221
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`TABLE OF CONTENTS
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`I. OKAMURA AND BELITZ RENDER OBVIOUS THE CHALLENGED
`CLAIMS ..................................................................................................................... 3
`A. Claim Construction ........................................................................................... 3
`B. The Okamura-Belitz Combination ................................................................. 11
`1.The Okamura-Belitz combination renders obvious “displaying the map
`including displaying … a [first/second] location selectable thumbnail image
`at a [first/second] location on the interactive map” ......................................... 11
`2. The Okamura-Belitz combination renders obvious “displaying an application
`view” ................................................................................................................ 19
`C. DEPENDENT CLAIMS OF THE ’658 PATENT ARE OBVIOUS IN VIEW
`OF OKAMURA AND BELITZ ........................................................................... 21
`1. Claims 3 and 4 ............................................................................................... 21
`2. Claim 5 ........................................................................................................... 22
`3. Claims 7 and 10 ............................................................................................. 24
`4. Claims 9 and 12 ............................................................................................. 25
`5. Claim 13 ......................................................................................................... 25
`6. Claims 14 and 15 ........................................................................................... 26
`II. CONCLUSION .................................................................................................. 26
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`1.
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`This Declaration expands on the conclusions that I have formed based on my
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`analysis provided in my first declaration (SAMSUNG-1003, incorporated herein
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`by reference in its entirety; “Original Declaration”). Consistent with my findings
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`provided in my Original Declaration and based upon my knowledge and
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`experience and my review of the prior art publications listed above, a POSITA
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`would have found that claims 1-15 (“the Challenged Claims”) of the ’658 patent
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`are rendered obvious by at least the combinations of references set forth in my
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`Original Declaration.
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`I.
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`OKAMURA AND BELITZ RENDER OBVIOUS THE
`CHALLENGED CLAIMS
`As I further clarify below in response to Patent Owner’s arguments, claims
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`1-15 are rendered obvious by the combination of Okamura and Belitz.
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`A. Claim Construction
`In the Patent Owner Response (“POR”), Patent Owner interprets certain
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`claim terms. I do not agree with these interpretations.
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`4.
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`First, with respect to claim element [1a] and specifically Patent Owner’s
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`argument that “an application view” must be “distinct from the other claimed
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`views,” I initially note that the ’658 patent makes clear that FIG. 35 is merely one
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`of various “application views” that are provided as examples in the ’658 patent,
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`including those shown in FIGS. 32-34 and 36. SAMSUNG-1001, 9:18-22;
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`SAMSUNG-1046, 40:8-21. What’s more, the ’658 patent explicitly refers to its
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`people and location views as the “People Application View” and the “Location
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`Application View.” SAMSUNG-1001, FIG. 32, FIG. 34, 3:58-4:4. There is
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`nothing in the ’658 patent that differentiates between its “Uploads Application
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`View” in FIG. 35 and its other application views, other than its focus on “Uploads”
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`as compared to “People” or “Location.” The ’658 patent repeatedly describes the
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`existence of multiple application views and refers to all of the views in FIGS. 32-
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`36 as application views. SAMSUNG-1001, 12:38-39 (“various Application
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`Views”), 18:35-38 (“all Application Views”), 21:50-54 (“any of the Application
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`Views”), 22:55-59 (“every Application View”), 28:5-8 (“When a user selects the
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`‘Advanced Filters’ from almost any Application View (0801) (the button can be
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`seen in FIGS. 32, 33, 34, 35, and 36)”).
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`5. Moreover, according to Dr. Reinman, the ’658 patent provides “examples of
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`different application views” and that “a view like a location view is also an
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`application view in the spec of the patent.” SAMSUNG-1046, 17:12-18; see also
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`id., 42:9-43:15. In other words, according to the specification of the ’658 patent,
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`as per Dr. Reinman, a particular view can “qualify as both” an application view
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`and a location view. I agree that there is no requirement in the ’658 patent claims
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`that an application view must be completely distinct from the other views.
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`Second, with respect to claims 3-5, 7, 9, 10, and 12-15, Patent Owner argues
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`that the phrase “responsive to a click or tap … displaying” requires “a cause-effect
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`relationship between (i) a click or tap of a certain selectable element and (ii)
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`displaying a certain view or content.” POR, 17-19. Specifically, Patent Owner
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`interprets this language to require a “direct cause-effect relationship” such that
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`“additional clicks or taps or interviewing views” are not allowed. Id., 23-24.
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`7.
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`However, a POSITA would have recognized that the term “responsive to”
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`simply requires the second event to happen “subsequent to” the first event based on
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`a combination of user interaction and software implementation. In fact, in the ’658
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`patent, the people view that is ultimately shown to the user typically requires not
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`only the initial pressing of “People” (1401) (shown in red below) but further the
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`additional selection of a desired display order via a drop-down list (1402) (shown
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`in purple below). SAMSUNG-1001, FIG. 32, 22:59-67. That is, even the ’658
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`patent itself contemplates having intermediate user actions between the first event
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`(i.e., “cause”) and the second event (i.e., “effect”).
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`SAMSUNG-1001, FIG. 32 (annotated)
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`As Dr. Reinman also appears to agree, such drop-down selections and other
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`possible intermediate actions, such as scrolling through the view to reach the
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`desired content, does not violate the “responsive to” requirement since the overall
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`cause-effect relationship is still maintained. SAMSUNG-1045, 30:19-32:3; 26:23-
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`27:17; 52:3-23; 55:6-56:1; SAMSUNG-1046, 78:3-79:3.
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`This is consistent with examples in the ’658 patent that include interface
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`controls that require additional, intermediate user actions to reveal information that
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`is described as being part of a displayed view. As shown above, FIG. 32 of the
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`’658 patent depicts an example of a “people view” that contemplates multiple
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`pages within the view and includes an “Items Per Page” button that controls how
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`many of the available photos are shown to a user on each page. SAMSUNG-1001,
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`22:43-52, FIG. 32. FIG. 6 of the ’658 patent depicts another example of a “people
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`view” showing arrows that, upon selection, display additional thumbnails of people
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`included in the people view. SAMSUNG-1001, 6:20-26, FIG. 6. FIG. 13 of the
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`’658 patent depicts another example of a “people view” that includes a scroll bar
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`and shows +,- controls that display/hide names of people included in the people
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`view. SAMSUNG-1001, 6:54-61, FIG. 13. A POSITA would have found it
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`obvious that the interface in FIG. 13 is initially displayed with all of the names of
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`specific people hidden and only revealed when the user takes the additional step of
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`clicking on a +,- control associated with a last name of interest. In these examples
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`of “people views,” intermediate user actions are needed to cause display of
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`information that is described as being part of the displayed view.
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`10. Other types of views in the ’658 patent contemplate similar additional,
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`intermediate user actions to cause display of information described as being part of
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`the displayed views. For example, FIG. 3 displays “a gallery view of an event or
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`album” and FIG. 4 displays “an individual event or album view” responsive to
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`selection of a thumbnail of an event or album displayed in FIG. 3. SAMSUNG-
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`1001, 2:66-3:2, 6:4-13. In this example, FIG. 4 includes arrows that cause display
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`of additional thumbnails of images that are organized in the selected event or
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`album, but that are not displayed when the selected event or album view is initially
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`presented. SAMSUNG-1001, FIG. 4. These additional thumbnail images are part
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`of the displayed event or album view and only displayed when the user takes the
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`additional, intermediate action of selecting one of the arrow controls to reveal
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`them.
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`11. This operation is consistent with the claim language in claims 14 and 15.
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`Claim 14 recites, “responsive to a click or tap of the first album selectable
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`thumbnail image, displaying a first album view, the displaying the first album view
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`including displaying (i) the first album name associated with the first album and
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`(ii) a scaled replica of each of the digital photographs and videos in the third set of
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`digital photographs and videos.” Claim 15 recites similar features. The ability of
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`a single screen to display each of the digital photographs and videos in the third set
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`of digital photographs and videos, necessarily depends on the number of digital
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`photographs and videos in the third set. As shown in FIG. 4 of the ’658 patent,
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`when the number of photographs and videos is relatively large (e.g., above a
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`threshold number), the displayed album view includes controls that enable the user
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`to reveal “each” of the digital photographs and videos, but only after the user takes
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`the additional, intermediate action of selecting one of the control arrows,
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`potentially many times. For these reasons, the ’658 patent embraces the need for
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`additional, intermediate user actions to display information that is described as
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`being part of a displayed view.
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`12. Third, with respect to claim 5, Patent Owner states that “displaying the
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`people view including: ... a name associated with the first person ... [and] ... a name
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`associated with the second person” requires displaying both names “at the same
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`time.” The only specification support cited by Patent Owner for this interpretation
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`appears to be the ’658 patent’s FIG. 32 and its accompanying description. POR,
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`28. Although the example provided in FIG. 32 seems to show both a first name
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`and a second name at the same time, I see nothing in the ’658 patent that would
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`indicate to a POSITA as requiring both names to be visible together to the user at
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`all times. As I understand it, Dr. Reinman couldn’t point to anything either.
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`SAMSUNG-1045, 57:24-58:14. This is not surprising since there is nothing in the
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`language of claim 5, or anywhere else in the specification of the ’658 patent, that
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`requires all names to be displayed at the same time.
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`13. Specifically, the claim language here simply recites displaying a “view”
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`(e.g., “people view,” “album view,” etc.) responsive to a click or tap. The claim
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`language does not state that everything associated with the view is displayed
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`responsive to the click or tap – it states that the view is displayed responsive to the
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`click or tap and that the view includes various pieces of information. To illustrate,
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`I’ve provided below an annotated version of FIG. 32 of the ’658 patent where it
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`shows an example of a “people view” where certain photos are visible. However,
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`the interface includes an “Items Per Page” button that controls how many of the
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`available photos are shown at one time to a user.
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`SAMSUNG-1001, FIG. 32 (annotated)
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`14.
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`In other words, although there may be other photos that are part of the
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`“people view” of FIG. 32, such photos are not displayed simultaneously with all
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`other photos and are not visible until the user clicks on additional buttons. In fact,
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`the ’658 patent describes several different mechanisms for limiting the display of a
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`view to only a portion of the information described as being included in the view.
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`See SAMSUNG-1001, 6:20-26, FIG. 6 (showing arrows that display additional
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`thumbnails of people included in the people view); 6:54-61, FIG. 13 (showing +,-
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`controls that display/hide names of people included in the people view; also
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`showing a scroll bar at the side to control the portion of the view that is displayed).
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`15. Fourth, with respect to claim 13, Patent Owner states that “displaying the
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`album view” requires displaying both a first album name and a second album name
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`“at the same time.” For reasons similar to those I provided above for claim 5,
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`claim 13 likewise does not require simultaneous display of the first and second
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`album names.
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`B.
`The Okamura-Belitz Combination
`16. As I explained in my Original Declaration, Okamura in view of Belitz
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`renders obvious claims 1-15 of the ’658 patent.
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`1. The Okamura-Belitz combination renders obvious “displaying
`the map including displaying … a [first/second] location
`selectable thumbnail image at a [first/second] location on the
`interactive map”
`17. Regarding my proposed “first combination,” Patent Owner argues that a
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`POSITA would not have been motivated to modify Okamura with Belitz because
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`“none of Belitz’s thumbnails ... convey geographical information ....” POR, 36.
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`Even if that were the case, which I strongly disagree with, a POSITA would still
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`have been motivated to combine Okamura and Belitz to obtain “additional
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`benefits” as I previously explained. SAMSUNG-1003, [84]-[98]. For instance, in
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`furtherance of Okamura’s stated objective of better managing digital content, the
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`proposed combination “enhances a user experience of ‘discern[ing] between the
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`various objects’ by providing ‘a good view of what location is associated with
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`what.’” SAMSUNG-1003, [87].
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`18. Even if the benefits obtained by incorporating Belitz’s thumbnails into
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`Okamura were to come at the expense of some other benefit offered by Okamura, a
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`POSITA would have been more than capable of weighing potential pros/cons
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`associated with each design option. For instance, a POSITA would have
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`recognized that the benefits of viewing location-specific thumbnail images may be
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`achieved in one instance, while the benefits of viewing location-specific cluster
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`maps may be achieved in another. A POSITA would have found each of these
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`options as obvious designs to pursue in view of the disclosures of Okamura and
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`Belitz.
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`19. Moreover, I note that Belitz’s thumbnails and Okamura’s cluster maps are
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`functionally equivalent in the sense that both convey geographical information.
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`Dr. Reinman does not seem to disagree. See SAMSUNG-1045, 107:10-22; 114:8-
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`20. Patent Owner further seems to argue that the proposed combination of
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`Okamura and Belitz “carries the same disadvantages as the ‘related art’ references
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`(Fujiwara and Takakura)” mentioned in Okamura. However, in both Fujiwara and
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`Takakura, it can be difficult to grasp the geographical correspondence between
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`digital files because their thumbnails are not placed directly on the map. See EX-
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`2002, FIG. 12; EX-2019, FIG. 1. In contrast, a POSITA would not have found it
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`difficult to grasp the geographical correspondence between digital files in Belitz
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`because, for example, a user looking at Belitz’s FIG. 4b can easily understand
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`which location the thumbnail 410b is associated with and which location the
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`thumbnail 410c is associated with. See SAMSUNG-1006, FIGS. 4a-4b. Thus, the
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`alleged problems with Fujiwara and Takakura that “may make it difficult to grasp
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`the geographical correspondence” of their images are not present in the same
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`manner in Belitz. POR, 39.
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`21. Moreover, although Okamura identifies disadvantages with the designs of
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`Fujiwara and Takakura, a POSITA would not have interpreted Okamura to
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`preclude offering a Fujiwara-style or Takakura-style view as an alternative. In
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`Okamura, the related art was not disparaged as useless, but as not ideal for certain
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`photo database contents and certain user preferences. With this background, a
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`combination with Okamura does not have to be better than Fujiwara or Okamura
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`by itself to be useful, and a POSITA would have considered other known user
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`interface design options, such as the design of Belitz, to have been obvious options
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`to consider in the context of Okamura’s disclosure.
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`22. Patent Owner also argues that the Okamura-Belitz combination conflicts
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`with Belitz’s stated objectives of reducing clutter because the proposed
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`combination “would clutter the view and be confusing to a user.” POR, 44-45. In
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`support, Patent Owner provided a cropped reproduction of an illustration that I
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`previously presented in my original declaration, as shown below:
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`POR, 44.
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`23. However, looking at the portion of my illustration that Patent Owner did not
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`show, it can be clearly seen that the combination can be achieved without any
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`overlap:
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`SAMSUNG-1003, [88]
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`24. Patent Owner also argues that “Belitz’s thumbnails reduce the ability to
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`provide a view of ‘what location is associated with what’” without addressing the
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`explanation I previously provided. POR, 45-48. For example, as I previously
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`explained, incorporating the thumbnails of Belitz into Okamura would have
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`resulted in the “added functionality that allows a user to preview pictures
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`associated with a given location” and would have been done so in a manner that
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`allows the user to more “clearly see the associations.” SAMSUNG-1003, [88]-
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`[89]. That is, instead of having to click on individual clusters as in Okamura to
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`ascertain which pictures are associated with which locations, Belitz provides a way
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`for Okamura to provide such information all at once for multiple locations on the
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`map.
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`25. Regarding Patent Owner’s statement that “Okamura already allows a user to
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`‘preview pictures,’” I note that the incorporation of Belitz’s thumbnails allows the
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`user to quickly associate multiple preview pictures with multiple locations on the
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`map without having to individually navigate through each of the clusters. Thus,
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`the combination of Okamura and Belitz can help improve user experience and
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`overall content awareness by providing the user with a preview of the digital files
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`associated with multiple corresponding locations. That is, as I previously
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`explained, the proposed combination of Okamura and Belitz provides a known and
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`predictable alternative to displaying and managing digital content in a manner that
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`can help improve user experience. SAMSUNG-1003, [89].
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`26. Patent Owner states that Petitioner has “failed to demonstrate that the first
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`combination (based on Okamura’s second embodiment) would have been used
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`with Okamura’s FACE index screen 410.” POR, 52. As I previously explained,
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`“the use of Okamura’s map view from FIG. 41 in conjunction with Okamura’s face
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`view from FIG. 21 … is appropriate and obvious.” SAMSUNG-1003, [96]-[98].
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`To the extent Okamura does not explicitly disclose this transition, a POSITA
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`would have certainly found it to have been obvious.
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`27. Regarding my first alternative combination (“second combination”), Patent
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`Owner states that incorporating Belitz into Okamura in the proposed manner would
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`not be desirable to a POSITA because “much of the information shown in FIG. 41
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`of Okamura would be lost if it were displayed according to Belitz.” POR, 56.
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`Patent Owner further provides the following modified drawing of Okamura to
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`illustrate the alleged loss of geographical information:
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`POR, 57
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`28. However, Patent Owner added a large and opaque border around Belitz’s
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`thumbnail images. This exaggerates the alleged loss of geographical information;
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`but no such borders can be seen in Belitz:
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`SAMSUNG-1006, FIGS. 4a-4b.
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`29. Even if such a border were to be originally present in Belitz, which it is not,
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`Dr. Reinman appears to agree with me in recognizing the obvious notion that
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`reducing clutter through simple design changes, which would include minimizing
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`any obtrusive borders, would have been well-known to a POSITA. SAMSUNG-
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`1045, 99:3-100:18.
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`30. Moreover, as I previously explained, my second combination can improve
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`user experience and content awareness by providing the user with a preview of the
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`digital files associated with the corresponding location. SAMSUNG-1003, [91].
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`Furthermore, a POSITA would have further been able to weigh potential pros/cons
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`associated with both cluster maps and thumbnails to help achieve the desired user
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`experience and convenience for the particular dataset, zoom level, etc.
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`31. Regarding my second alternative combination (“third combination”), Patent
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`Owner states that a POSITA would not have eliminated cluster maps and that
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`additional problems may occur at different zoom levels. POR, 58-60. However, as
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`I previously explained, a POSITA would have known to combine Okamura and
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`Belitz using known programming techniques and, if needed, could easily make
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`simple software modifications to implement the combination in a predictable
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`manner. See SAMSUNG-1003, [93]-[95]. Among other things, a POSITA, if
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`cognizant of the fact that the Okamura-Belitz combination works less effectively at
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`certain map scales, would know how to adjust the display of Okamura-Belitz
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`depending on the zoom level. For instance, for a zoomed-out map, the display
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`shown in Okamura’s FIG. 41 may be preferred. And for a zoomed-in map, on the
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`other hand, the incorporation of Belitz’s thumbnails may be preferred. In a system
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`supported by software, the addition of a display option need not eliminate any
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`previous capabilities (e.g., when Google Maps added satellite view, replacing the
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`road network view for users who preferred seeing pictures, the road network view
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`remained available as an option).
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`2. The Okamura-Belitz combination renders obvious “displaying
`an application view”
`32. Patent Owner argues that claim limitation [1a] is not satisfied by Okamura
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`based on a narrow interpretation of “an application view.” POR, 61-62. For
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`reasons I discussed above, “an application view” should not be so narrowly
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`construed in this instance. Further, to the extent that an application view must be
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`distinct from a map view, Okamura discloses such an application view as detailed
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`in my original declaration. For example, as I previously explained, Okamura
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`discloses an application view that is different from other claimed views in claim 1.
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`For example, the index screen 410 portion of Okamura’s interface (which includes
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`selectable tabs 411-413 and an area for content display based on which tab is
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`selected) is different from Okamura’s map view (e.g., the cluster map display area
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`414 from Okamura’s FIG. 18). SAMSUNG-1003, [104]-[105], [110].
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`33.
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`In addition, a POSITA would have recognized that the index screen 410 and
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`the cluster map display area 414 are different, among other things since the index
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`screen 410 includes the plurality of selectable elements (e.g., an ‘EVENT’ tab 411,
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`a ‘FACE’ tab 412, and a ‘PLACE’ tab 413). SAMSUNG-1003, [104];
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`SAMSUNG-1005, [0235]-[0236], FIGS. 18-21.
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`34. Further, the implementation of showing various “views” in Okamura is very
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`similar and essentially parallel to what is shown in the ’658 patent, specifically
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`using multiple tabs to switch between different content that is shown in the content
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`portion of the display. See SAMSUNG-1001, 32-34 and 36. In other words, the
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`“application view” in each of Okamura and the ’658 patent is the overall
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`framework that includes selectable tabs to allow the user to switch among different
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`views (e.g., location/people/album) being shown in the content portion of the
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`display upon selection of a corresponding tab. The fact that the ’658 patent may
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`display an additional tab (i.e., corresponding to the “Uploads” view) does not
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`distinguish it from Okamura.
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`35. Moreover, even if it did, a POSITA would have found it obvious to add
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`additional tabs to the index screen of Okamura. For instance, as explained in my
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`Original Declaration, a POSITA would have found it obvious to add, to Okamura’s
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`index screen shown in FIG. 18, a fourth tab corresponding to the map view
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`presented by Okamura in FIG. 41. SAMSUNG-1003, [108]. As I explained, a
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`POSITA would have found it obvious to display, in FIG. 18, a separate tab for
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`Okamura’s map view screen 780 shown in FIG. 41 in addition to the three
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`selectable elements 411, 412, and 413 for the benefit of improving user experience
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`and allowing a user to switch between different options of displaying files based on
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`location. Id. In this example with the additional tab, Okamura’s cluster map
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`display tab would then operate similarly to the “Uploads” tab of the ’658 patent
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`and serve as an “application view” even under Patent Owner’s narrow view. As
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`Dr. Reinman apparently agrees, a POSITA would have recognized that there is a
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`great amount of flexibility in how these types of minor implementation details can
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`be implemented in a user interface. See, e.g., SAMSUNG-1046, 53:18-54:22.
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`C. Dependent Claims of the ’658 Patent Are Obvious in View
`of Okamura and Belitz
`1. Claims 3 and 4
`36. Patent Owner argues that claims 3-4 are allegedly not met by the Okamura-
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`Belitz combination because “Okamura’s alleged map image is already displayed ...
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`before any click or tap in the first location view.” POR, 63-64. However, as I
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`previously explained, the corresponding map image of Okamura is displayed in
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`response to the user’s selection. SAMSUNG-1003, [155]. Indeed, a POSITA
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`would have understood that the identified map image of Okamura “would change
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`to those associated with” the location selection via the thumbnail. SAMSUNG-
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`1003, [150]-[155]. Additionally, Okamura describes that FIG. 50 is associated
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`with both a “cluster wide-area map” as well as a “magnified map of the cluster
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`map.” SAMSUNG-1005, [0441]-[0442]. Thus, a POSITA would have recognized
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`and/or found it obvious that the “magnified” map shown in display area 891
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`changes upon selection of the image to show a magnified portion of the cluster
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`map corresponding to the selection.
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`37.
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`I further note that the claims relate to displaying a map image with an
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`indication of the geographic coordinates. Thus, even if the underlying map in
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`Okamura does not change, at least the corresponding coordinates certainly do,
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`thereby displaying, responsive to the selection, a map image with coordinates of
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`the selected photo. SAMSUNG-1003, [155].
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`2. Claim 5
`38. According to Patent Owner, a “name associated with the first person” and a
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`“name associated with the second person” must be displayed simultaneously. As I
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`explained above at paragraphs 9-11, such simultaneous display is not required by
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`the claims. Based on this proper understanding of the ’658 patent’s claim
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`language, the Okamura-Belitz combination renders obvious displaying the “first
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`name” and the “second name” in the claimed manner. SAMSUNG-1003, [156]-
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`[164]; SAMSUNG-1005, FIG. 21.
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`39. Moreover, it “would have been obvious” in the Okamura-Belitz combination
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`to “display the name adjacent to the first person selectable thumbnail image”
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`without additional mouse hovering because a POSITA would have recognized that
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`doing so can help “allow[] the user to avoid confusion on which face index belongs
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`to whom.” SAMSUNG-1003, [162]. Along these lines, Dr. Reinman agreed that
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`Okamura expressly contemplates a scenario, for instance when implemented as a
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`mobile phone, where a mouse would not even be present. SAMSUNG-1046,
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`110:20-111:19; SAMSUNG-1005, [502]. A system without a mouse could not
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`perform such mouse hovering, and the express mention of this phone-based
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`implementation in Okamura further confirms my view that a POSITA would have
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`found the mouse hovering feature to be optional.
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`40.
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`Indeed, whether to show all the names all of the time or only just part of the
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`time is simply a matter of “design choice and may be a function of user
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`preference.” EX-2022, 132:6-12. This exceedingly obvious feature can be found
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`throughout the prior art. See, e.g., SAMSUNG-1048, 75, Fig. 4.2 (displaying
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`names adjacent to thumbnails was well-known); SAMSUNG-1049, FIG. 8
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`(showing similar disclosure). Dr. Reinman similarly acknowledged that making
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`minor adjustments to help reduce clutter could be a matter of design choice. See
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`SAMSUNG-1045, 99:3-100:18 (“[F]or any design, there are certain choices that
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`the designers get to make....”); SAMSUNG-1046, 101:4-20 (“If you wanted to ask
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`me was it possible to scale a font in scenarios, sure. People had considered scaling
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`fonts. Was it possible to change the size of the things? Sure. People have changed
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`the size of things.”). Thus, Patent Owner’s statement that “there is simply no
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`room” in Okamura to display multiple names goes against common sense1 and
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`does not account for the skills and creativity of a POSITA. POR, 67-68. Dr.
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`Reinman also specifically acknowledged that displaying multiple names in
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`1 At a minimum, the size and resolution of the display would have to be
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`considered.
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`Okamura would not necessarily lead to unavoidable cluttering, which I agree with.
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`SAMSUNG-1046, 98:22-99:1.
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`41. And related to my discussions above about a POSITA’s ability to consider
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`pros/cons of design variations, an alternative design of Okamura that may slightly
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`increase its congestion level does not automatically undermine a reason to use it
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`because a POSITA would have nevertheless been able to weigh potential benefits
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`associated with levels of congestion, for instance recognizing that doing so could
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`allow the user to further “avoid confusion.” SAMSUNG-1003, [162].
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`3. Claims 7 and 10
`42. Patent Owner states that “there are multiple intervening steps” between the
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`identified people and person views. POR, 69. However, as I noted above with
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`regard to proper understanding of the language in claims 7 and 10, intervening user
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`actions do not destroy the “responsive to” relationship. I further note that
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`Okamura leaves many of the specific implementation details to a POSITA, for
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`instance choosing not to show all the different ways in which a user can navigate
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`from screen to screen. Thus, while it certainly may be “possible that there are
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`other navigation pathways or that some additional clicks would be necessary in the
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`Okamura system to get from 21 to 24,” it is also possible for the user to do so with
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`a single mouse click depending on user preference. EX2024, 126:4-13, 127:1-8;
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`see also SAMSUNG-1046, 53:18-54:22
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`4. Claims 9 and 12
`43. Regarding Patent Owner’s argument that “button 455” of Okamura is not
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`clicked or tapped, I previously explained during deposition that this “button”
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`would indeed be considered to be clicked/tapped by a POSITA. EX-2024, 146:12-
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`150:6. As for the showing of “a representation of all locations,” I previously
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`explained how a POSITA would have viewed a display of all locations as a matter
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`of obvious design choice, particularly in view of the teachings of Yee.
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`SAMSUNG-1003, [184]-[186]. As I also explained, “Yee already contains the
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`ability to show all the photos -- or all the locations of all the photos in the database
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`over all time, or shrink it down to ju