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`TSG-RAN Working Group 1 meeting No. 24
`February 18-22, Orlando, Florida, U.S.A.
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`Document for: Approval
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`Revised Minutes for 3GPP TSG-RAN WG1 23rd Meeting
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`Revised minutes of TSG RAN WG1 #23 meeting
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` Following 2 points were revised in this revision.
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`1) Page 15, Note (*7) , comments regarding R1-02-0066
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`Meeting start: January 8th, 2002, in Espoo, Finland
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`Day 1, started at 10.07
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`The chairman, Mr. Antti Toskala (Nokia), opened the meeting and welcomed the delegates to the meeting on behalf of
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`2. Approval of agenda
` R1-02-0001 Agenda for TSG RAN WG1 meeting No.23
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`3. Rel'5 work items besides HSDPA
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`3.1 Enhancement on the DSCH hard split mode
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`R1-02-0052 Revision of TR 25.870 to version 1.1.1
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`R1-02-0053
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` CR 25.212-123r1 : Inclusion of flexible
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`Samsung
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`R1-02-0058
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` The priority combinations for DSCH
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` Text proposal for clarification on Contents, Section
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`R1-02-0065
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` Backward compatibility and specification impacts of
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`R1-02-0127
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` Response to LS on TFCI power control
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`R2-02-0105 TR 25.870 V1.2.0
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`Day 1 10:28-10:31
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`Day 1 10:32-10:45
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`Day 1 10:46-10:59
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`Day 1 11:34-11:44
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`Day 1 11:44-12:08
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`Day 1 12:08-12:34
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`Day 4 16:48-16:51
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`(*1) Mr. Yongjun Kwak (Samsung) presented this paper.
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` This was the revision of TR 25.870 which contains some clarifications, editorial corrections onto the previous
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` Chairman concluded that this revision was approved. The revision marks should be removed except those sections
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` which contains the actual text proposals on the existing specifications. The version number will be raised to v1.2.0.
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` TR 25.870 v1.2.0 was created in R1-02-0161 by Samsung but it was not reviewed during this meeting.
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` Instead, R1-02-0105 which contains TR 25.870 v1.2.0 including revised text proposal on TFCI power control in DSCH
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` hard split mode (this text proposal can be found in R1-02-0104.) was reviewed in conjunction with the LS (R1-02-0148)
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` reviewal on Day4. The text proposal in R1-02-0104 was approved with no comments and as a result, R1-02-0105 was
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` also approved without any comments. The final version number from this meeting was then raised to v1.3.0 which can
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` be found in R1-02-0197 as an attachment of the liaison statement. (See No. 8, 130)
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`(*2) Mr. Yongjun Kwak (Samsung) presented this paper.
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` Chairman questioned whether it has been reflected in this CR that we are not supposed to have all of the combinations
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` (all division patterns of bits) in our specification. Samsung answered that it was not reflected but they were ready to
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` make a discussion on this issue. They said that they did not have any strong opinion this point.
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` Mr. Hidetoshi Suzuki (Panasonic) pointed out that there was a UE capability CR that was going to be submitted in
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` RAN WG2 in this week. (RAN WG2 was having its #26 meeting in parallel in Sophia Antipolis.) He said that if this
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` hard split mode is optional feature then it would be a bit strange to have this discussion here. Mr. Dirk Gerstenberger
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` Chairman requested Samsung to make that CR available here in RAN WG1 as well in the afternoon CD.
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` Eventually this RAN WG2 CR was provided by Samsung in R1-02-0163 in Day4 morning CR.
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` Mr. Dirk Gerstenberger commented as regards some editorial or notational issues.
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` Chairman invited Mr. Dirk Gerstenberger to give his comments to the proponent offline then there the revision would
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` With respect to the discussion on the desirable combinations, there was a contribution from Panasonic in R1-02-0058
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`(*3) Mr. Hidetoshi Suzuki (Panasonic) presented this paper on the screen.
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` This paper was discussing the importance of (1:9) (3:7) combinations. Several concerns regarding having the
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` combination of (1:9) were expressed by Mr. Yannick Le Pezennec (Vodafone Group), Chairman,
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` Mr. Dirk Gerstenberger (Ericsson) and Ms. Evelyne Le Strat (Nortel). The main opinion was that it would be enough
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` if we have (5:5), (6:4) and (7:3) combinations.
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` Having these comments, chairman concluded that we would have (5:5), (6:4) and (7:3) splits including reverse split
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` combinations as a working assumption and not (1:9) Chairman suggested to the proponent (Samsung) to reflect this
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` conclusion in the revision of the CR. The revised CR would be reviewed in RAN WG1#24 in Orlando.
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`/*** Day1 coffee break 11:01-11:29 ***/
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`(*4) LGE presented this paper.
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` On accordance with the decision made in RAN WG#22 meeting in Jeju, in this document LGE provided revisions of
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` the text proposal for TR 25.870 with respect to section 5.1 and 5.2. Some points as regards TFCI power control in
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` DSCH hard split mode were clarified.
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` There was one comment from Ms. Evelyne Le Strat (Nortel) saying that the very last sentence in section 5.1 was
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` There were no other comments made. Chairman suggested to the proponent to reflect this comment.
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`(*5) LGE presented this paper.
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` This was the sequel to the previous R1-01-0063. This particular paper (R1-02-0064) contained the revision for
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` Ms. Evelyne Le Strat (Nortel) remarked that she would like the general method proposed here however the way it is
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`- On the mandatory/non mandatory behaviour of the RNC
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`- On the power offsets description
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`- On the simulation results
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` She had distributed this comment including the comment for R1-02-0065 on the RAN WG1 e-mail reflector prior to
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` the meeting. The written comment can be found there. (posted at Tue 08/01/2002 00:10)
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` Chairman suggested to the proponent to revise the text proposal taking into account this comment.
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`(*6) LGE presented this paper.
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` In this paper the variable power offset for TFCI2 was proposed in order to allocated more power to TFCI2 bits.
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` Also in this paper the backward compatibility issue was discussed. Text proposals were attached.
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` There were several comments made.
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`- We can simplify the method where no new parameter would be introduced so that there would be no backward
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`- What is the impact on the maximum power offset values UE experiences in the downlink ?
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`- In R99 and Rel-4 UEs they expect that this power offset is fixed and it is certainly not supposed to go out of the
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` bound that is currently defined in the specification. Therefore it could be an issue first of all whether we can apply
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`- If the range of this offset value is somehow significantly different from what is in R99 and Rel-4 then even if UEs
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` range suddenly changes in a significant way. This kind of issue should be noted in the TR.
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`- In general the release information (e.g. Rel-5) should not be mentioned in the TR because there is a possibility that
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` In the end chairman made suggestion to the proponent to revise this text proposal taking into account the comments
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`(*7) This was the revision of the TR 25.870 v1.2.0. LGE had revised this TR with Nortel according to the comments made
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` This revision was approved with no comments. The revision number will be v1.3.0
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`3.2 Improvement of inter-frequency and intersystem measurements for 1.28 Mcps TDD
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`No. Ad Hoc
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` Improvement of monitoring FDD from
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`R1-02-0101
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` Improvement of monitoring 1.28Mcps
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`Day 1 13:50-14:15
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`(*1) Li Xiaoqiang (Samsung) presented this paper
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` This paper contained a revised TR which was submitted in the RAN WG1#22 (R1-01-1317).
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` In the revised TR, monitoring 1.28Mcps TDD from 1.28Mcps TDD was also included as one study area. And TR title
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` Ms. Sarah Boumendil (Nortel) made a remark on the scope of revised TR.
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`In this revision we receive the impression that we are going to describe a method and impacts of the proposed method
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`on the specification but we should first of all state that the problem has been identified with the current specifications
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`and then proposed solution should be suggested to solve that problem. The problem should be clearly stated in the
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`first place and then solutions should be described.
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`The other problem with this TR was that we now have the description of the method from the layer 1 perspective
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`exactly how these method is going to be used in the system.
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`Eventually when this TR is submitted for RAN, they do not have any clue about any background discussion we have
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`had in RAN WG1. We need to be consistent. We need to identify the problems and then possible solutions
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`should be described with the explanation of how those solutions would improve the situations. So from the TR point
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`of view the problem needs to be clearly described.
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` As a best way forward chairman suggested following.
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`the scope and basic structure of the TR. And secondly we should discuss the text proposals in separate T-docs.
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` Ms. Evelyne Le Strat (Nortel) added that we would not be ready to accept any text proposals describing a method if
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` we have no confidence that there is no associated procedure in the higher layers to configure the same method.
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` Finally chairman invited the proponent to provide clean version of the TR during this meeting so that we can review
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` R1-01-0149 was allocated for the revised TR. This was provided on the Day4 morning CD but eventually it was not
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`(*2) Samsung presented this paper.
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` In this paper three channel re-assigning patterns for inter-system measurement were introduced which can be used for
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` There was a comment from Nortel that the discussions on patterns would be useless unless the principle of the scheme
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` There was also a comment that the model in this scheme is not in line with the one in RAN WG4.
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` Chairman agreed with these comments and suggested that the proponent should clarify the principle of this method
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` Chairman concluded that we would come back to this issue later after the proponent has provided the revision reflecting
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`(*3) These 2 documents were not presented with the reason of the conclusion made with the previous papers. The proponent
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`3.3 Support of SSDT in UTRAN
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`R1-02-0028 Quality threshold Qth in SSDT
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`NEC, Fujitsu
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`(*1) Ms. Nahoko Takano (NEC) presented this paper.
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` In the RAN #14, new work item on "Support of Site Selection Diversity Transmission in UTRAN" was created in order
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` SSDT in UTRAN including the definition of Qth parameter. On accordance with this background in this paper some
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` A short discussion was made about the simulation result in the Annex, e.g. what is the reference, what kind of signalling
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` Chairman commented that the key issue to note here is that Qth is defined as relative value to uplink target SIR. He
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` people found no problem by Day4 then we would send a LS to RAN WG3 and RAN WG4. Chairman stated that some
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` There was a question made by Lucent asking what we should do with R99 and Rel-4 specification because the WI
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` created in RAN #14 looks at Rel-5 onwards. We need to make an answer to RAN WG4 on R99/Rel-4 testing issue.
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` Chairman answered that maybe some clarification would be needed also for R99 and Rel-4 as well. He said that we
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` As regards the LS to RAN WG4 chairman stated that we should liaise with RAN WG4 that although there is no need
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` There would not be any TR created on this Qth issue.
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` Eventually draft CR was not presented during this meeting.
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` LS to RAN WG3 was drafted in R1-02-0177. This was reviewed and approved on Day4 into R1-02-0196.(See No. 128)
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` LS to RAN WG4 on the testing requirements was draft in R1-02-0185 but this was not approved in this meeting.
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`3.4 UE positioning enhancements for 1.28 Mcps TDD
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`No. Ad Hoc
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` Rel5 CRs for WI "UE positioning
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`(*1) Mr. Andreas Höynck (Siemens) presented this paper.
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` This paper contained CRs for TS 25.224 and TS 25.225 "UE positioning enhancements for 1.28Mcps TDD".
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` The technical discussions for the Work-Item "UE Positioning Enhancements for 1.28Mcps TDD" had been finalized in
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` all involved WGs. In the RAN WG2 technical report there had already been CRs for RAN WG1 specifications drafted
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` and CRs presented in this current paper were copied from RAN WG2 TR.
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` There was no comment raised. Chairman concluded this as "Agreed in principle" because the official approval of the
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` CRs would take place in RAN WG1#24 in Orlando. Chairman invited people to have check until the next meeting and
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` Siemens will present this CR again in the next meeting with proper CR number.
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`/*** NOTE: The first Rel-5 CRs shall be based on the latest Rel-4 specifications. In the "Current version" box of the CR
`coversheet should be filled with the latest Rel-4 version number. The first Rel-5 specifications will have version number 5.0.0.
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`/*** Day1 Coffee break 15:19 – 15:50***/
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`3.5 Multiple Input Multiple Output antennas (MIMO), including the channel model discussions
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`/*** The actual Ad Hoc session was held Day1 16:50 – 19:50 ***/
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`R1-02-0153 Report from Tx diversity/MIMO Ad Hoc Ad Hoc chair Approved
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`Day 3 16:04-16:21
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`(*1) Mr. Masafumi Usuda (NTT DoCoMo), the chairman of this Ad Hoc session presented this report.
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` Following 12 papers were covered in the Ad Hoc session held on Day1 evening.
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` R1-02-0141 MIMO conference call summary (MIMO rapporteur)
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` R1-02-0142 MIMO system simulation methodology (Lucent)
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`System channel model and simulation (Motorola)
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` R1-02-0143 Update on MIMO Channel Measurement Results (Qualcomm)
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` R1-02-0030 Revised text proposal for a new pilot structure for more than 2 antennas (rev 5)
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` R1-02-0147 Text proposal for a new pilot structure for more than 2 antennas (Samsung and Siemens)
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`Predictions about performance of weighted combining schemes for closed loop downlink
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`3GPP Beamforming vs. Eigenbeamformer. (Nokia)
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`System performance of STTD for HSDPA. (Nokia)
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` R1-02-0119 Text proposal for TS25.869 (Nokia)
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` R1-02-0049 Closed-loop transmit diversity (TxAA) solution for HSDPA (Texas Instrument)
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` Mr. Howard Huang (Lucent) gave some update about the offline MIMO discussions.
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` Rough outline of system simulation can be defined as in Section 3.2, but it’s difficult to define the methodology and
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`simulation discussions should focus on the channel model, and any harmonization with 3GPP2 should also focus on
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` Details of each proponent’s methodology should be clearly described so that it will be possible for others to compare
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` Mr. Howard Huang stated that he would provide this summary on the e-mail reflector.
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` Chairman suggested that some kind of document be provided on Day4 which summarises the current status so that we
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` Eventually this the summary was documented in R1-02-0181, however this was not reviewed during this meeting.
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` Since R1-02-0118 and R1-02-0049 had been concluded in the Ad Hoc to be reviewed in the plenary session, chairman
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` This report was approved and chairman thanked Mr. Masafumi Usuda for having taken care of the ad hoc session.
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`3.6 NodeB Synchronisation for 1.28 Mcps TDD
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` Report from 1.28 Mcps TDD Node B
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`Ad Hoc chair Approved
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`Day 4 15:17-15:25
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`(*1) Mr. Antti Toskala (Nokia), the chairman of this Ad Hoc session presented this report.
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` Following 5 papers were covered in the Ad Hoc session held on Day1 evening.
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` R1-02-0003 Comments on extended proposals for 1.28Mpcs TDD Node B sync (Siemens)
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` R1-02-0059 Simulations and performance analysis for LCR-TDD Node B sync (Mitsubishi)
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` R1-02-0120 Simulation results for Node B synchronization based on Extended SYNC_DL sequence in 1.28 Mcps
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` R1-02-0004 Proposed flexible signalling approach for 1.28 Mcps TDD Node B sync (Siemens)
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` There was a comment that the meaning of the following sentence regarding the discussion of R1-02-0106 is not clear.
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` Siemens invited people to have a look at R1-02-0005.
` R1-02-0005 Centralized versus Distributed approach for NodeB sync for 1.28 Mcps TDD
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` LGE answered that there might be some inconsistencies of the RAN WG3 TR with RAN WG1 TR at this moment.
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` Eventually an LS was drafted by LGE in R1-02-0148. This LS was reviewed on Day4 and approved in R1-02-0197.
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`(*2) Ms. Evelyne Le Strat (Nortel) presented this LS.
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`(Proposed draft CR to 25.331 on introduction of Default Configurations for AMR2 with 4 speech modes was
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`- to study the possibility to optimise the coding for the Transport Channel bearing Transparent Mode Signalling for
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`(RAN WG2 has worked on the correction to UL AMR rate control mechanism in order to allow optimised
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` Finally chairman concluded that we should send a LS to RAN WG2 informing our opinion on this block coding issue
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`(*3) Mr. Serge Willenegger (Qualcomm) presented this LS.
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` Since there was a related paper prepared by Panasonic in R1-02-0055, chairman suggested to have a look at that paper.
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` Chairman asked Mr. Hidetoshi Suzuki to draft a LS. R1-02-0160 was allocated for the draft answer. Eventually draft
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`(*4) Mr. Nicolas Billy (Alcatel) presented this LS.
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` This was the answer LS to R1-01-1239 which RAN WG1 had sent out from RAN WG1#22 meeting in Jeju.
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`(*5) Ms. Sarah Boumendil (Nortel) presented this LS.
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` This was the answer LS from RAN WG3 to RAN WG4 for the LS (R4-011633) which RAN WG1 had also received
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