8
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`287: 9, 296:
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`297: 5, 302:
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`clinicians
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`86:
`77:6,
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`closed
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`346: 8
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`3 0:2
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`45: 8
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`70:3
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`208:2
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`2: 5
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`332: 5
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`73:
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`competes
`6:3
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`333:6
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`335:9
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`3 7: 6, 330:
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`350: 2
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`97:5, 293: 2,
`293: 3, 346: 9
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`308:22, 309:3,
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`9: 0,
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`323: 6, 324:6,
`327:22
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`249: 7, 249:2
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`59: 6,
`60: 3
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`35:20, 226:
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`206: 3, 208:5,
`208:8
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`37:4
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`69:20
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`25: 2
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`56: 6
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`75: 0, 75: 7,
`79:9, 80:3, 86:4
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`84:22
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`39:6, 40: 2,
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`74:9,
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`203:4,
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`5: 0, 35: O,
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`35:2, 60: 7,
`6: 3,
`27:4,
`98:20, 204:7,
`2 0: 7, 243:8,
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`302:
`construction
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`69:9, 69: 0,
`78:4,
`88: 8,
`200:
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`206:2
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`04:9,
`50: 6,
`5 :6,
`52:9
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`45:5
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`39:5
`32:6,
`concentration
`45: 2
`concepts
`46:
`0
`concerning
`40:9,
`20:4,
`78:2,
`78:
`83: 7, 2 3:3
`conclude
`33: 2
`concluded
`348: 7
`concludes
`77:7,
`96:8
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`102
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`22:2
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`coverage
`307:22, 308:4
`covered
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`263:8, 276:22
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`35:
`covers
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`307: 4, 3 0:2
`covid
`24:8
`create
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`287:3
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`326: 6
`credulity
`50: 2
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`249:20, 262:
`263: 6
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`40: 6,
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`336: 8
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`55: 8
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`56: 7, 60:3
`context
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`52:
`60: 4, 62:
`63:22, 65:
`66:3,
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`9
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`327: 8
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`326: 8
`contributions
`325: 8
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`2 5: 4, 2 9: 2,
`227: 9, 23:
`232:2, 233:
`237:
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`239:
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`240:
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`244:6, 250:
`282:4, 300:
`303:9,
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`205:6
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`9: 2,
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`4
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`:8,
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`53:2 , 309: 6
`corners
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`286: 6
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`265: 7
`corrected
`44: 5
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`34 : 0, 34: 9,
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`corresponding
`238:
`8
`cost
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`57:6,
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`323:7, 325:
`33 : 3, 33:
`332:2, 332:
`costs
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`268:4, 268:
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`323:9
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`48: 7, 50:2 ,
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`7:
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`323:7
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`47: 0, 302: 3
`counted
`47:2
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`346:2
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`06:8,
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`06:9
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`declaration
`6:6, 8:20,
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`276:7, 280: 8,
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`292:9, 292: 5,
`293:4, 294:7,
`295:2, 295:7,
`295: 2, 296:9,
`298:2 , 33 222,
`333:5, 333:
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`87: 9
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`danger
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`8
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`337: 6, 350:9
`days
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`266:20, 270:
`277: 9, 277:
`289: 4, 290:
`294: 0, 297:
`298:3, 298:8,
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`308: 6, 3 3:2,
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`96:5,
`75:4,
`76:4,
`76: O,
`88: 0,
`99:5,
`202: 7, 205: 2,
`206:20, 207: 0,
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`208:3, 29: ,
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`258: 2, 259:2
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`73:22
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`35:
`249:22
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`349:
`349:
`349:
`depositions
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`67: 6, 87:3,
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`designed
`237:2, 239:2,
`239: 4, 24 :8,
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`defendant
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`6
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`74:6, 75: 3,
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`266: 9, 302:7
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`105
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`discussion
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`78:5, 85:9,
`29: 4,
`55:
`55:22,
`75:
`99:
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`255:4, 29 :4,
`3 2:22,
`3 3:8
`discussions
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`76:7,
`32:4,
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`255: 7
`disease
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`72:2,
`99:2,
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`308: 7, 3 0:20,
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`distinction
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`2 :22, 244:
`distinguish
`292: 6
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`285: 3, 286:
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`differentiating
`68: 3, 262:5
`differentiation
`74: 6
`differentiator
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`7 :2
`62: 0,
`differently
`73: 6
`differing
`207: 7
`differs
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`92: 3
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`57:20, 293:8,
`295:5
`digging
`38:9, 263:
`dime
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`228: 9, 229: 6,
`234: 4, 248:4
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`disagreement
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`disclaimer
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`6: 2,
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`52: 6, 55: 5,
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`disclosed
`4:8
`disclosure
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`5:7,
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`40:9,
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`22:
`discounts
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`27: 7, 30:2,
`30:5, 30: 5,
`30: 9, 3: 5,
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`02: 6,
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`7
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`54:2, 305:3
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`258: 8
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`28 :
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`116
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`202:20, 203:
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`117
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`118
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`248:20, 249:2
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`86:4, 329:22
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`9
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`29 :8, 303: 8,
`33: , 346:3,
`346: 3
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`7 : 2,
`70:4,
`87: 4, 225: 2,
`225:22, 226: 3,
`230:4, 23 :22,
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`literally
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`226:22, 227: 6,
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