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From: "Ellison, Martin" <martin.ellison@dlapiper.com> 
`Date: Friday, December 4, 2020 at 11:36 AM 
`To: John Hughes <john.hughes@bartlitbeck.com>, Colibri <Colibri@bartlit‐beck.com>, Mieke Malmberg 
`<mmalmberg@skiermontderby.com>, External user ‐ Adam Mortara <adam@mortaralaw.com> 
`Cc: "Fadis, Valerie" <valerie.fadis@dlapiper.com>, "Ganas, Matt" <matt.ganas@dlapiper.com>, "Grasso, 
`Kathryn Riley" <kathryn.riley@dlapiper.com>, "Heintz, James M." <jim.heintz@dlapiper.com>, "Huang, 
`Catherine" <catherine.huang@dlapiper.com>, "Fowler, Mark" <mark.fowler@dlapiper.com> 
`Subject: RE: Colibri v. Medtronic ‐ Meet and Confer Summary 
`
`John, 
`
`We understand your email below to be a representation that Colibri will provide a substantive response to interrogatory 
`16 on the due date, and in particular that Colibri will not object to providing a substantive response to any of the claims 
`charts on the basis that they reflect invalidity defenses that are similar to the invalidity defenses at issue in IPR2020‐
`01649 filed by Edwards.  We request that you inform us by COB today if our understanding is incorrect as we intend to 
`raise this with the Court in that event.   Additionally, if Colibri will not provide a substantive response to the entirety of 
`interrogatory 16 by the due date on that basis, we request that this issue be included in the meet and confer on Monday 
`so that we can satisfy this requirement before raising the issue with the Court. 
`
`Thanks. 
`
`Martin Martin Ellison 
`
`Associate 
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`From: John Hughes <john.hughes@bartlitbeck.com>  
`Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 1:37 PM 
`To: Ellison, Martin <Martin.Ellison@us.dlapiper.com>; Colibri <Colibri@bartlit‐beck.com>; Mieke Malmberg 
`<mmalmberg@skiermontderby.com>; External user ‐ Adam Mortara <adam@mortaralaw.com> 
`Cc: Fadis, Valerie <valerie.fadis@us.dlapiper.com>; Ganas, Matt <Matt.Ganas@us.dlapiper.com>; Grasso, Kathryn Riley 
`<Kathryn.Riley@us.dlapiper.com>; Heintz, James M. <Jim.Heintz@us.dlapiper.com>; Huang, Catherine 
`<Catherine.Huang@us.dlapiper.com>; Fowler, Mark <Mark.Fowler@us.dlapiper.com> 
`Subject: Re: Colibri v. Medtronic ‐ Meet and Confer Summary 
`
`[EXTERNAL] 
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`Hi Martin,
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`1
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`Colibri Heart Valve LLC, Exhibit 2018, Page 1 of 4
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`See my responses below. 
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`Best, 
`

`John 
`

`BartlitBeck LLP 

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`From: "Ellison, Martin" <martin.ellison@dlapiper.com> 
`Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 at 5:50 PM 
`To: Colibri <Colibri@bartlit‐beck.com>, Mieke Malmberg <mmalmberg@skiermontderby.com>, External user ‐
`Adam Mortara <adam@mortaralaw.com> 
`Cc: "Fadis, Valerie" <valerie.fadis@dlapiper.com>, "Ganas, Matt" <matt.ganas@dlapiper.com>, "Grasso, 
`Kathryn Riley" <kathryn.riley@dlapiper.com>, "Heintz, James M." <jim.heintz@dlapiper.com>, "Huang, 
`Catherine" <catherine.huang@dlapiper.com>, "Fowler, Mark" <mark.fowler@dlapiper.com> 
`Subject: Colibri v. Medtronic ‐ Meet and Confer Summary 
`  
`John, 
`
`  
`Thanks for meeting with us this morning.  We write to memorialize our meet and confer and to flag items for follow‐up 
`by both parties.   
`
`  
`First, Colibri confirmed it will not provide a substantive response to Medtronic’s interrogatory number 15.  However, 
`Colibri will allow Medtronic to add claim terms or revise claim constructions in light of the subsequently filed IPR 
`responses.  Colibri also will produce copies of all IPR responses on the same day they’re filed.   
`  
`I indicated Colibri would meet and confer and be reasonable in terms of any desire by
`Medtronic to revise constructions or add terms in light of the POPRs. I do not foresee
`an issue here. We will produce POPRs same day as we file. 
`
`  
`Although we did not discuss it on the call, we note that Colibri’s response to interrogatory number 16 is due on 
`12/14.  That interrogatory asks, in relevant part, for “all factual bases why each prior art reference(s) alone or in 
`combination does not invalidate each asserted claim of the asserted patents.”  We expect Colibri will substantively 
`respond to interrogatory 16.  Please confirm that Colibri will provide a substantive response to that interrogatory by the 
`12/14 deadline, and will not refuse to respond as it did with interrogatory 15.  We are willing to meet and confer to 
`discuss an agreement with respect to any necessary claim construction amendments in the time period between 12/14 
`and the opening Markman brief deadline of 12/18. 
`

`We plan to satisfy the deadline to respond to interrogatory 16. If you think our response
`to interrogatory 16 raises a claim construction issue we are willing to meet and confer
`then, but are not going to agree in advance that necessarily provides an opportunity to
`alter your claim construction positions. As I explained on the call, you are in the same
`position as most defendants in a typical patent case. You know our infringement
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`Colibri Heart Valve LLC, Exhibit 2018, Page 2 of 4
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`theory. We know your invalidity theories. That is all that is necessary to proceed to
`claim construction.  
`
`  
`Second, for claim construction exchanges, our understanding is that the parties will exchange documents today at 5 p.m. 
`PT.  The parties will meet and confer Friday to discuss claim construction.  I believe we provided times that work for us 
`(between 8:00 – 10:30 a.m. PT, as well as 12:00 – 2:30 p.m. PT).  Please let us know tomorrow morning what times work 
`for Colibri so we can block the time. 
`
`  
`Third, for claim construction briefs, the parties agreed to a 25‐page maximum per brief. 
`

`Confirmed. 
`
`  
`Fourth, regarding depositions, the parties’ noticed 30(b)(6) depositions are to be taken off calendar and we will meet 
`and confer regarding topics and objections.  As mentioned on the call, we expect to send our objections to Colibri’s 
`noticed topics no later than Monday (12/7).  We can then hopefully meet on Wednesday (12/9). 
`

`Confirmed.  
`
`  
`We do need to depose at least one of the inventors for the ‘294 and ‘739 patents according to their noticed dates or, at 
`a minimum, sometime during the week of 12/14 prior to claim construction briefs being due.  You indicated on the call 
`that you would check witness availability for that deposition. 
`

`We are considering this request and checking dates. 
`
`  
`Fifth, for document production, you indicated that you expect Colibri’s document production to be substantially 
`complete no later than Christmas.  We view our production as being substantially complete at this time.  As we 
`explained on the call, we have some specific concerns about Colibri’s production to date.  Although we intend to send 
`out a letter with these issues soon, at least in the short term we request that Colibri produce: (1) an unredacted copy of 
`the inventor declaration that is referenced in your response to interrogatory number 1; (2) a copy of COLIBRI00005143 
`that shows the entire first page of that document (the bottom of the page is cut off); and (3) copies of COLIBRI0005146, 
`COLIBRI0005147, and COLIBRI0005151 in which the improper “not responsive” redactions have been removed. 
`  
`I’ve conferred with our team and can confirm we will substantially complete our
`document production by the end of the month, hopefully before Christmas. We’ll
`produce on a rolling basis. We will look into the other issues raised in the paragraph
`above. 
`
`  
`Sixth, we discussed your request for samples of Medtronic devices and you indicated that you would provide us (1) the 
`number of samples you are requesting, and (2) an answer as to whether Colibri intends to reimburse Medtronic for the 
`costs of these samples.  We will review on our end to assess how best to determine representative devices, if possible. 
`

`We’ll get back to you on this shortly. 
`
`  
`Thank you. 
`
`  
`Martin 

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` Martin Ellison
`Associate 
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`Colibri Heart Valve LLC, Exhibit 2018, Page 3 of 4
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