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`· · · · · · ·BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`· · · · · · · ·vs.· · · · · · · · · · Case No. IPR2020-01532
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`· · ·AKER BIOMARINE ANTARCTIC,
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`· · · · · · · · · · ·Patent Owner.
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`· · · · · · · · · ·Deposition of STEPHEN TALLON
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`· · ·RIMFROST,
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`·1· · · · · · · · · Deposition of STEPHEN TALLON, a witness
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`·2· ·in the above-entitled action, was taken at the instance
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`·3· ·of the Petitioner, under and pursuant to the provisions
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`·4· ·of Chapter 804 of the Wisconsin Statutes, and pursuant
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`·5· ·to Notice, before me, MARIA V. CAMERA, Court Reporter,
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`·6· ·and Notary Public in and for the State of Wisconsin, on
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`·7· ·the 27th day of October, 2021, commencing at 3:00 p.m.
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`·8· ·and concluding at 3:25 p.m.
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`· · · · · · · · · · HOFFMANN & BARON, LLP, by
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`13· · · · · · · · · Parsippany, New Jersey 07054-4606
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`· · · · · · · · · · CASIMIR JONES S.C., by
`15· · · · · · · · · Mr. J. Mitchell Jones
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`16· · · · · · · · · Middleton, Wisconsin 53562
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`·2· · · · · · ·THE COURT REPORTER:· The attorneys
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`·3· ·participating in this deposition acknowledge that I
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`·4· ·am not physically present in the deposition room
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`·5· ·and that I will be reporting this deposition
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`·6· ·remotely.
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`·7· · · · · · ·They further acknowledge that, in lieu of
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`·8· ·an oath administered in person, I will administer
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`·9· ·the oath remotely, pursuant to the March 25th,
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`10· ·2020, Order of the Wisconsin Supreme Court and
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`11· ·Section 804.04 of the Wisconsin Statutes.
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`12· · · · · · ·The parties and their counsel consent to
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`13· ·this arrangement and waive any objections to this
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`15· · · · · · ·Please indicate your agreement by stating
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`16· ·your name and your agreement on the record.
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`17· · · · · · ·MR. JONES:· Mitchell Jones, counsel for
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`18· ·Aker Biomarine, and I state my agreement.
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`19· · · · · · ·MR. CHAKANSKY:· Michael Chakansky,
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`20· ·attorney for petitioner, Rimfrost, I agree with
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`21· ·your statement.
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`22· · · · · · ·STEPHEN TALLON, called as a witness
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`23· ·herein by the Petitioner, after having been first
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`24· ·duly sworn, was examined and testified as follows:
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`·1· · · · · · · · · · · · ·EXAMINATION
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`·2· ·BY MR. JONES:
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`·3· ·Q· · Good morning, Dr. Tallon.
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`·4· ·A· · Good morning.
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`·5· ·Q· · Do you understand that you are here today to
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`·6· · · · testify in relation to a reply declaration
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`·7· · · · submitted for IPR2020-01533 for U.S. Patent Number
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`·8· · · · 9,816,046 and IPR2020-1532, which is for U.S.
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`·9· · · · Patent Number 9,644,169?
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`10· ·A· · I do.
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`11· ·Q· · And I'm going to note for the record that under the
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`12· · · · exhibit numbering system that's been used, both of
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`13· · · · those have been marked as Exhibits 1086 for the
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`14· · · · respective IPRs, and I believe in some of the
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`15· · · · previous depositions where we've had the situation
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`16· · · · where the -- we have exhibits with the same number
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`17· · · · and that largely have similar content that we've
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`18· · · · agreed that when I ask a question about one of
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`19· · · · those exhibits that to the extent that the other
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`20· · · · exhibit in the other IPR is the same, that those
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`21· · · · responses to questions about that will apply to
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`22· · · · both?
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`23· · · · · · · · · MR. CHAKANSKY:· As long as they are
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`24· · · · exactly the same and the content it the same, yes.
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`25· · · · · · · · · MR. JONES:· Okay.
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`·1· ·BY MR. JONES:
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`·2· ·Q· · Do you have both of those declarations with you
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`·3· · · · today, Dr. Tallon?
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`·4· ·A· · I do, yes.· I have those available to look at.
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`·5· ·Q· · Okay.· Great.· I think, probably, we are going to
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`·6· · · · be sticking primarily to those declarations, and if
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`·7· · · · you need me to put something up, to share a screen
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`·8· · · · with one of the declarations, please let me know.
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`·9· · · · · · · · · So I'd like to start off with the --
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`10· · · · direct your attention to Exhibit 1086 for
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`11· · · · IPR2020-1532 which is for the 169 patent.
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`12· ·A· · Okay.· Give me a moment so I can open that.
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`13· ·Q· · Sure.
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`14· ·A· · Okay.
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`15· ·Q· · Okay.· Great.· I'd like to direct your attention
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`16· · · · first to paragraph 23 of Exhibit 1086.
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`17· ·A· · Okay.
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`18· ·Q· · And I think in relation to this question I could
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`19· · · · also direct your attention to -- to the next
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`20· · · · paragraph as well.· But in answering this question,
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`21· · · · I mean, feel free to refer to any portion of your
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`22· · · · declaration.
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`23· · · · · · · · · There it says that you have read all the
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`24· · · · exhibits supplied and referenced by Dr. Tilseth and
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`25· · · · Jaczynski and relied on by PO for the reduction to
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`·1· · · · practice argument.· Do you see that?
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`·2· ·A· · I do.
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`·3· ·Q· · And then you provide a list there that includes
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`·4· · · · Exhibit 2002, 2003, 2006, 2011, and 2008.· Do you
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`·5· · · · see that?
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`·6· ·A· · I do.
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`·7· ·Q· · And then in paragraph 24, you also refer to -- I
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`·8· · · · think you left out Exhibit 2013 from that -- and in
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`·9· · · · paragraph 24, you refer to Exhibit 2013 towards the
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`10· · · · end of that paragraph; do you see that?
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`11· ·A· · I do, yes.
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`12· ·Q· · Okay.· So my question is, did you consider -- other
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`13· · · · than those exhibits listed -- did you consider any
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`14· · · · other -- in rendering your opinion on reduction to
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`15· · · · practice on Dr. Tilseth -- well, let me restate
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`16· · · · that.· Just a second.
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`17· · · · · · · · · In rendering your opinion on
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`18· · · · Dr. Tilseth's testimony on reduction to practice,
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`19· · · · did you consider any other documents other than
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`20· · · · those listed in paragraph 23 and 24 of your
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`21· · · · declaration?
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`22· ·A· · We are also associated with those exhibits that
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`23· · · · were related to the timestamps on the documents,
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`24· · · · and in some cases they were original translations.
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`25· · · · So we have those documents as well.
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`·1· ·Q· · Okay.
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`·2· ·A· · And the other one that comes to mind is the -- that
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`·3· · · · may not be the year -- is the deposition
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`·4· · · · transcripts from...
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`·5· ·Q· · And would that be Dr. Jaczynski's deposition
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`·6· · · · transcript?
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`·7· ·A· · That would be correct, yeah.
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`·8· ·Q· · Okay.· So I want to be sure on this.· So you said
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`·9· · · · -- so those exhibits that you referred to, the
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`10· · · · timestamps and the translations, so that collective
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`11· · · · group of documents would be Exhibit 2002 to 2014;
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`12· · · · is that correct?
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`13· ·A· · I can take your word on that, but that sounds
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`14· · · · great.
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`15· ·Q· · And then, so in addition -- and so then taking that
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`16· · · · together in rendering your opinion on Dr. Tilseth's
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`17· · · · testimony on reduction to practice, you considered
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`18· · · · Exhibits 2002 to 2014 in Dr. Jaczynski's deposition
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`19· · · · transcript; is that correct?
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`20· ·A· · That's correct.
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`21· ·Q· · And is there anything else you can think of that
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`22· · · · you considered, or any other documents that you
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`23· · · · considered in addition to those when rendering your
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`24· · · · opinion to Dr. Tilseth's testimony on reduction to
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`25· · · · practice?
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`·1· · · · · · · · · MR. CHAKANSKY:· I think you have got to
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`·2· · · · give him a chance to look through the list of
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`·3· · · · numbers.· You just put a whole bunch of numbers at
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`·4· · · · him with exhibits.· And if he could take a look at
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`·5· · · · whatever exhibit list he has, he can tell you if
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`·6· · · · there's anything else.
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`·8· · · · about the Jaczynski Declaration, which is 2015.· So
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`·9· · · · asking him at this point, you know, by exhibit
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`10· · · · numbers, I think you have got to give him a chance
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`13· ·Q· · Do you want to look and give me a list of the
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`14· · · · exhibits that you considered?
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`15· ·A· · So, well, this is one answer.· I have read the
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`16· · · · declaration of Tilseth, which is 2001.· And that
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`17· · · · declaration references a number of documents that
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`18· · · · Tilseth cites in support of it.· So you can include
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`19· · · · all of those as part of my consideration.
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`20· · · · · · · · · And also, the year 2015, the Jaczynski
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`21· · · · declaration I believe also discusses the reduction
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`22· · · · to practice, and there's also the reply submission
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`23· · · · that's submitted.
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`24· ·Q· · Okay.· I guess what I want you to do, though, is to
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`25· · · · give me a list of the exhibits that you considered
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`·2· · · · reduction to practice testimony.
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`·3· ·A· · So, well, based on that, the Exhibits 2001 through
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`·4· · · · to 2015, plus I also mentioned the Jaczynski
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`·5· · · · deposition transcript.
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`·6· ·Q· · As you sit here, can you think of any other
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`·7· · · · documents that you considered in rendering your
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`·8· · · · opinion on Dr. Tilseth's reduction to practice
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`10· ·A· · Well, no.· My opinion is based on the documents
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`11· · · · that were submitted, but it's also consistent with
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`12· · · · my general understanding.
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`13· ·Q· · Okay.· Are you aware that the 169 and 046 patents
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`14· · · · claim priority to a series of provisional
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`15· · · · applications?
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`16· ·A· · I'm aware of provisional applications.
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`17· ·Q· · And did you consider the disclosure of any of those
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`18· · · · provisional applications in rendering your opinion
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`19· · · · on Dr. Tilseth's reduction to practice testimony?
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`20· ·A· · It's quite some time since I've reviewed those
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`21· · · · provisional documents.
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`22· ·Q· · Did you review those in relation to rendering your
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`23· · · · testimony -- in relation to rendering your opinion
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`24· · · · on Dr. Tilseth's reduction to practice testimony?
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`25· ·A· · Not specifically.· Only from my general
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`·1· · · · recollection and understanding of the content.
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`·2· ·Q· · Just to go back a little bit, what did you do today
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`·3· · · · to prepare for your deposition?
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`·4· ·A· · I have done some review of the key documents
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`·5· · · · including my own declarations, those that were
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`·6· · · · submitted as part of the reply, and reviewed again
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`·7· · · · some of what was listed as part of all of those
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`·8· · · · declarations and documents.
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`·9· ·Q· · And in preparing for your deposition today, did you
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`11· ·A· · Yes, I have been speaking with some of the
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`12· · · · attorneys for the petitioner.
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`13· ·Q· · And other than the attorneys for petitioner, did
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`14· · · · you speak with anyone in preparing for your
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`16· ·A· · No.
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`17· ·Q· · And that would include any electronic
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`18· · · · correspondence with anyone else besides your
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`19· · · · attorneys?
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`20· ·A· · That's correct, yes.
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`21· ·Q· · And in preparing your -- both of the reply
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`22· · · · declarations, which are Exhibit 1086, did you speak
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`23· · · · with anyone other than Rimfrost's attorneys when
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`24· · · · you were preparing those reply declarations?
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`25· ·A· · Not about the contents of the declarations, no.
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`·1· ·Q· · And did you speak with anybody from Rimfrost when
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`·2· · · · you were preparing those reply declarations?
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`·3· ·A· · No.
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`·4· ·Q· · Do you have a copy of the 169 patent with you?
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`·5· ·A· · I do, yes.
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`·6· ·Q· · And could you go to the front page of that patent?
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`·7· ·A· · Okay.
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`·8· ·Q· · And this is Exhibit 1001, for the record.· Do you
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`·9· · · · see a list of inventors on the front page?
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`10· ·A· · I do.
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`11· ·Q· · And do you see the inventors are Inge Bruheim,
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`12· · · · Snorre Tilseth, and then Daniele Mancinelli?
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`13· ·A· · I do.
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`14· ·Q· · And are you aware that Inge Bruheim works for
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`16· ·A· · I was aware -- I don't know if it still counts --
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`17· · · · but I was aware that he has worked for Rimfrost.
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`18· ·Q· · And do you know what his position at Rimfrost is?
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`19· ·A· · No, I don't.
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`20· ·Q· · All right.
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`21· · · · · · · · · MR. JONES:· I believe that's all I have
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`22· · · · for today, then.
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`23· · · · · · · · · MR. CHAKANSKY:· Okay.· Just give us a
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`24· · · · minute to see if anything is necessary on redirect,
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`25· · · · if there will be one, and we'll get right back to
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`·3· · · · · · · MR. CHAKANSKY:· I guess we will sign off,
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`·4· · and then we will come back in, okay?
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`·5· · · · · · · MR. JONES:· Okay.· I will go on mute,
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`·6· · then.
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`·7· ·(A recess was taken from 3:20 p.m. to 3:25 p.m.)
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`·8· · · · · · · MR. CHAKANSKY:· There is no redirect. I
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`STEPHEN TALLON
`2021
`October 27,
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`23
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`6:16 7:20
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`agreement
`4:15,16,18
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`24
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`7:7,9,20 9:7
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`25th
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`4:9
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`Aker
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`4:18
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`answering
`6:20
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`1001
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`12:8
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`1086
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`9:13 6:10,16
`11:22
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`169
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`6:11 10:13
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`12:4
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`2001
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`9:16 10:3
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`2002
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`7:4 8:11,18
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`2003
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`7:4
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`9,644,169
`5:9
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`9,816,046
`5:8
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`applications
`10:15,16,18
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`apply
`5:21
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`argument
`7:1
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`arrangement
`4:13
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`attention
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`6:10,15,19
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`attorney
`4:20
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`attorneys
`4:2 11:12,
`13,19,23
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`aware
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`called
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`4:22
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`cases
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`7:24
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`Chakansky
`4:19 5:23
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`9:1 12:23
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`13:3,8
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`chance
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`9:2,10
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`cites
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`9:18
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`claim
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`10:14
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`collective
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`8:10
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`concluded
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`13:11
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`consent
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` 2
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`5:13,16,19
`6:24 7:13,22
`8:9,18 9:4,
`14,25 10:3
`13:10
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`J
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`Jaczynski
`6:25 9:8,20
`10:4
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`Jaczynski's
`8:5,18
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`Jones
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`4:17 5:2,25
`6:1 9:12
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`12:21 13:2,5
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`K
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`L
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`largely
`5:17
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`left
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`7:8
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`lieu
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`4:7
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`list
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`7:3 °9:2,5,
`13,25 12:9
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`listed
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`7:13,20 11:7
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`long
`5:23
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`give
`6:12 9:2,10,
`13,25 12:23
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`Good
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`5:3,4
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`great
`6:5,15 8:14
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`group
`8:11
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`guess
`9:24 13:3
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`include
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`9:18 11:17
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`includes
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`7:3
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`including
`11:5
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`Inge
`12:11,14
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`inventors
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`12:9,11
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`IPR
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`5:20
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`IPR2020-01533
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`5:7
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`M
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`IPR2020-1532
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`Mancinelli
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`5:8 6:11
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`IPRS
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`5:14
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`12:12
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`manner
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`4:14
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`STEPHEN TALLON
`2021
`October 27,
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`G
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`E
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`general
`10:12,25
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`correct
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`8:7,12,19,20
`11:20
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`correspondence
`11:18
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`counsel
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`4:12,17
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`counts
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`12:16
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`Court
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`4:2,10
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`D
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`Daniele
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`12:12
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`declaration
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`5:6 6:22
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`7:21 9:8,16,
`17,21
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`electronic
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`11:17
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`end
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`7:10
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`EXAMINATION
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`5:1
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`examined
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`4:24
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`exhibit
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`5:12,20
`6:10,16 7:4,
`8,9 8:11
`9:5,9 11:22
`12:8
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`declarations
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`exhibits
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`extent
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`5:19
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`6:2,6,8
`11:5,8,22,
`24,25 12:2
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`deposition
`4:3,4,5 8:3,
`5,18 10:5
`11:3,9,15
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`depositions
`5:15
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`direct
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`6:10,15,19
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`disclosure
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`10:17
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`discusses
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`9:21
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`documents
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`7:19,23,25
`8:11,22 9:17
`10:7,10,21
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`
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`10:22,23
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`March
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`4:9
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`marked
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`5:13
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`mentioned
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`10:4
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`Michael
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`4:19
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`mind
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`8:2
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`minute
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`12:24
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`Mitchell
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`4:17
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`moment
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`6:12
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`morning
`5:3,4
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`mute
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`13:5
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`note
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`5:11 9:7
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`number
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`5:7,9,16
`9:17
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`numbering
`5:12
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`numbers
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`9:3,10
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`Oo
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`oath
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`4:8,9
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`objections
`4:13
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`Okeydoke
`13:2
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`open
`6:12
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`opinion
`7:14,17
`8:16,24
`10:1,8,10,
`18,23
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`Order
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`4:10
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`original
`7:24
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`p-m.
`13:7,11
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`paragraph
`6:16,20 7:7,
`9,10,20
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`part
`9:19 11:6,7
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`participating
`4:3
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`parties
`4:12
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`patent
`5:7,9 6:11
`12:4,6
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`patents
`10:13
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`person
`4:8
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`petitioner
`4:20,23
`11:12,13
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`physically
`4:4
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`STEPHEN TALLON
`October 27, 2021
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`PO
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`6:25
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`point
`9:9
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`portion
`6:21
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`position
`12:18
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`practice
`7:1,15,18
`8:17,25 9:22
`10:2,8,19,24
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`prepare
`11:3
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`preparing
`11:9,14,21,
`24 12:2
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`present
`4:4
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`previous
`5:15
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`primarily
`6:6
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`priority
`10:14
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`PROCEEDINGS
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`4:1
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`provide
`7:3
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`provisional
`10:14,16,18,
`21
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`pursuant
`4:9
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`put
`6:7 9:3
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`Q
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`question
`5:18 6:18,20
`7:12
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`questions
`5:21
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`read
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`6:23 9:15
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`recess
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`13:7
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`recollection
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`11:1
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`record
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`4:16 5:11
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`12:8
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`redirect
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`12:24 13:8
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`reduction
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`6:25 7:14,18
`8:17,24 9:21
`10:2,8,19,24
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`refer
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`6:21 7:7,9
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`referenced
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`6:24
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`references
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`9:17
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`referred
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`8:9
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`related
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`7:23
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`relation
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`5:6 6:18
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`
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`relied
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`6:25
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`remotely
`4:6,9
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`rendering
`7:14,17
`8:16, 23
`10:1,7,18,
`22,23
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`reply
`5:6 9:22
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`11:6,21,24
`12:2
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`REPORTER
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`4:2
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`reporting
`4:5,14
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`respective
`5:14
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`responses
`5:21
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`Section
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`4:11
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`series
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`10:14
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`share
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`6:7
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`sign
`13:3
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`similar
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`5:17
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`sit
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`10:6
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`situation
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`5:15
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`Snorre
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`12:12
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`sounds
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`8:13
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`speak
`11:10,14,22
`12:1
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`taking
`8:15
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`STEPHEN TALLON
`2021
`October 27,
`
`sticking
`6:6
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`7:18 8:16,24
`10:1,8,19,24
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`submission
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`time
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`9:22
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`10:20
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`submitted
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`5:7 9:23
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`10:11 11:6
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`supplied
`6:24
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`support
`9:18
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`Supreme
`4:10
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`sworn
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`4:24
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`system
`5:12
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`timestamps
`7:23 8:10
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`today
`5:5 6:3
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`11:2,9,15
`12:22
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`transcript
`4:1 8:6,19
`10:5
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`transcripts
`8:4
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`translations
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`7:24 8:10
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`U
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`U.S.
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`5:7,8
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`12:14
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`understand
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`5:5
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`understanding
`10:12 11:1
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`Ww
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`waive
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`4:13
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`Wisconsin
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`4:10,11
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`word
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`8:13
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`worked
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`12:17
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`works
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`restate
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`7:15
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`review
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`10:22 11:4
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`reviewed
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`10:20 11:6
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`Rimfrost
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`4:20 12:1,
`15,17,18
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`Rimfrost's
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`11:23
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`room
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`4:4
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`screen
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`6:7
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`speaking
`11:11
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`specifically
`10:25
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`start
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`6:9
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`state
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`4:18
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`statement
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`4:21
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`stating
`4:15
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`Statutes
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`4:11
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`STEPHEN
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`4:22
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`talks
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`9:7
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`Tallon
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`4:22 5:3 6:3
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`testified
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`4:24
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`testify
`5:6
`
`testimony
`7:18 8:17,24
`10:2,9,19,
`23,24
`
`Tilseth
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`6:24 7:15
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`9:16,18
`12:12
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`Tilseth's
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`STEPHEN TALLON
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`October 27, 2021
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