`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`YITA LLC,
`Petitioner
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`v.
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`MACNEIL IP LLC,
`Patent Owner
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`Case IPR2020-01139
`U.S. Patent No. 8,382,186
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`PETITIONER YITA LLC’S
`REQUEST FOR ORAL ARGUMENT
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`Mail Stop “Patent Board”
`Patent Trial and Appeal Board
`U.S. Patent and Trademark Office
`P.O. Box 1450
`Alexandria, VA 22313-1450
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`Case IPR2020-01139
`U.S. Patent No. 8,382,186
`Pursuant to 37 C.F.R. § 42.70, the Board’s January 13, 2021 Case
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`Management and Scheduling Order (Paper 18), and the Board’s April 29, 2021
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`Revised Scheduling Order (Paper 26), Petitioner Yita LLC (“Petitioner”)
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`respectfully requests oral argument, which is currently scheduled for October 12,
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`2021. Petitioner believes that a total of 45 minutes is an appropriate argument time
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`for each side at the oral hearing to address the issues in this case and related case
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`IPR2020-01142.
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`Petitioner specifies the following issues to be argued:
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`• The unpatentability of claims 1-7 of U.S. Patent No. 8,382,186 (“the
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`’186 patent”) as obvious over Rabbe, Yung, and Gruenwald;
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`• Any issues identified in Patent Owner’s Request for Oral Argument;
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`• Rebuttal to Patent Owner’s presentation on all matters;
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`• Any other issues raised in papers filed in this proceeding, including
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`issues raised in papers yet to be filed, such as any Motions to Exclude
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`and Oppositions to Motions to Exclude; and
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`• Any other outstanding motions and pleadings, and other issues that
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`the Board deems necessary for issuing a Final Written Decision.
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`Petitioner recognizes that circumstances may require a telephonic hearing in
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`light of the COVID-19 pandemic, subject to the Board’s guidance. If the hearing is
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`conducted in-person, Petitioner requests the ability to use audio-visual equipment
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`to display possible demonstratives and exhibits, including the use of an ELMO,
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`computer, projector, and screen.
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`STERNE, KESSLER, GOLDSTEIN & FOX P.L.L.C.
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`/Jason A. Fitzsimmons/
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`Jason A. Fitzsimmons (Reg. No. 65,367)
`Attorney for Petitioner
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`Date: September 1, 2021
`1100 New York Avenue, N.W.
`Washington, D.C. 20005
`(202) 371-2600
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`CERTIFICATION OF SERVICE
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`The undersigned hereby certifies that a true and correct copy of the
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`foregoing PETITIONER YITA LLC’S REQUEST FOR ORAL ARGUMENT
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`was served electronically via e-mail on September 1, 2021 in its entirety on the
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`following counsel for Patent Owner:
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`David G. Wille (Lead Counsel)
`Chad C. Walters (Back-up Counsel)
`Clarke W. Stavinoha (Back-up Counsel)
`BAKER BOTTS L.L.P.
`david.wille@bakerbotts.com
`chad.walters@bakerbotts.com
`clarke.stavinoha@bakerbotts.com
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`Jefferson Perkins (Back-up Counsel)
`PERKINS IP LAW GROUP LLC
`jperkins@perkinsip.com
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`STERNE, KESSLER, GOLDSTEIN & FOX P.L.L.C.
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`/Jason A. Fitzsimmons/
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`Jason A. Fitzsimmons (Reg. No. 65,367)
`Attorney for Petitioner
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`Date: September 1, 2021
`1100 New York Avenue, N.W.
`Washington, D.C. 20005-3934
`(202) 371-2600
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`17235558.1
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