UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`YITA LLC,
`Petitioner,
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`v.
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`MACNEIL IP LLC,
`Patent Owner.
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`Case IPR2020-01139
`Patent No. 8,382,186
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`TRANSCRIPT OF TELEPHONIC CONFERENCE
`HELD ON JUNE 30, 2021
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`On June 30, 2021, a telephonic conference call was held between the parties
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`and the Board to discuss the parties’ request to file a joint stipulation setting forth
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`the procedure for Petitioner’s cross examination of Patent Owner’s witnesses who
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`reside outside the United States. Pursuant to the Board’s order authorizing the
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`parties to file the joint stipulation (Paper 43), Patent Owner files a copy of the June
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`30, 2021, telephonic conference transcript between the parties and the Board as a
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`Paper in this proceeding.
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`Dated July 16, 2021
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`Respectfully submitted,
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`/Chad C. Walters/
`Chad C. Walters (Reg. No. 48,022)
`Counsel for Patent Owner MacNeil IP LLC
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`Yita LLC v
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`MacNeil IP LLC
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`In the Matter Of:
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`REQUEST TO FILE STIPULATION
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`June 30, 2021
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`· · · ·UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`· · · ·BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`YITA LLC,· · · · · · · · · · )
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`· · · · · · ·Petitioner,· · ·)
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`· · · · ·vs.· · · · · · · · ·) Case Nos.:· 2020-01139
`· · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·)· · · · · · ·2020-01142
`MACNEIL IP LLC,· · · · · · · )
`· · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·)
`· · · · · · ·Patent Owner.· ·)
`____________________________ )
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`· · · · · · · · · TELEPHONIC HEARING
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`· · · · · · · REQUEST TO FILE STIPULATION
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`· · · · · · · ·WEDNESDAY, JUNE 30, 2021
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`·Reported in Stenotype by:
`·Cody R. Knacke, CSR No. 13691
`·Job No.:· 800167
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`· · · · ·REMOTE TELEPHONIC HEARING BEFORE THE PATENT
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`TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD, taken before Cody R. Knacke,
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`CSR No. 13691, a Certified Shorthand Reporter for the
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`State of California, with principal office in the
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`County of Los Angeles, commencing on Wednesday,
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`June 30, 2021, from 2:00 p.m. to 2:22 p.m., Eastern.
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`(All Appearances Via Teleconference.)
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`APPEARANCES OF COUNSEL:
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`· · For the Petitioner Yita LLC:
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`· · · · LOWE, GRAHAM & JONES
`· · · · BY:· MARK P. WALTERS, ESQ.
`· · · · 701 Fifth Avenue
`· · · · Suite 4800
`· · · · Seattle, Washington 98104
`· · · · 206.381.3300
`· · · · walters@lowegrahamjones.com
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`· · · · STERNE KESSLER GOLDSTEIN & FOX
`· · · · BY:· JASON A. FITZSIMMONS, ESQ.
`· · · · · · ·R. WILSON "TREY" POWERS III, ESQ.
`· · · · 1100 New York Avenue Northwest
`· · · · Suite 600
`· · · · Washington, D.C. 20005
`· · · · 202.371.2600
`· · · · jfitzsimmons@sternekessler.com
`· · · · tpowers@sternekessler.com
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`· · For the Patent Owner MacNeil IP LLC:
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`· · · · BAKER BOTTS
`· · · · BY:· DAVID G. WILLE, ESQ.
`· · · · · · ·CLARKE STAVINOHA, ESQ.
`· · · · · · ·CHAD C. WALTERS, ESQ.
`· · · · 2001 Ross Avenue
`· · · · Suite 900
`· · · · Dallas, Texas 75201
`· · · · 214.953.6500
`· · · · david.wille@bakerbotts.com
`· · · · clarke.stavinoha@bakerbotts.com
`· · · · chad.walters@bakerbotts.com
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`APPEARANCES OF COUNSEL:· (Continued)
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`· · Administrative Patent Judges:
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`· · · · Michael L. Woods
`· · · · Mitchell G. Weatherly
`· · · · James A. Worth
`· · · · Arthur M. Peslak
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`· · Certified Stenographic Court Reporter:
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`· · · · Cody Knacke
`· · · · Certified Shorthand Reporter
`· · · · Registered Professional Reporter
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`· · · · · · · WEDNESDAY, JUNE 30, 2021
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`· · · · · · · · · · · 2:00 P.M.
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`· · · · APJ WOODS:· Good afternoon.· This is
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`APJ Michael Woods, and with me on the call are
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`APJs Weatherly, Worth, and Peslak.· We are here to
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`discuss Interparty Reviews 2020-01139 and 2020-01142.
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`· · · · Moving to appearances.· Will the
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`representatives for the parties please introduce
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`themselves beginning with the patent owner.
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`· · · · And please indicate whether you have
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`provided a court reporter for the call.
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`· · · · MR. CHAD WALTERS:· Thank you, Your Honor.
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`This is Chad Walters for patent owner.· Also on the
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`call are David Wille and Clarke Stavinoha, and we
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`have engaged a court reporter for the call.
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`· · · · APJ WOODS:· All right.· Thank you,
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`Mr. Walters.
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`· · · · Petitioner's counsel.
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`· · · · MR. MARK WALTERS:· Good afternoon,
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`Your Honor.· Mark Walters for the petitioner.· I'll
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`let -- we have attorneys from Sterne Kessler on the
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`line, and I'll let them enter their own appearances.
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`· · · · MR. FITZSIMMONS:· Good afternoon,
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`Your Honor.· This is Jason Fitzsimmons on behalf of
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`petitioner at Sterne Kessler.
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`· · · · Also on the line is Ralph Powers III from
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`Sterne Kessler as well.
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`· · · · APJ WOODS:· All right.· Thank you,
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`Mr. Fitzsimmons.· Okay.
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`· · · · We scheduled this call to discuss the
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`parties' request to file a stipulation setting forth
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`the procedure for petitioner's cross-examination of
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`patent owner's witnesses in each of IPR2020-01139 and
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`IPR2020-01142.
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`· · · · In reviewing the patent owner's motion to
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`file supplemental information, we understand that
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`patent owner may be concerned about Mr. Li's ability
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`to be deposed in China under Chinese law.
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`· · · · In reviewing petitioner's withdrawal of the
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`Notice of Remote Deposition of Mr. Orlov, we also
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`understand that petitioner may be concerned that
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`Mr. Orlov's deposition would be unlawful under
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`Russian law.
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`· · · · We further understand that the stipulation
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`provides that the cross-examination will be captioned
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`as an interview instead of a deposition and that the
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`parties seek that we, the Board, file an order to
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`endorse the cross-examination.
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`· · · · Mr. Chad Walters, will you please entertain
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`whether your desire to file the stipulation stems
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`from a concern that either Mr. Li or Mr. Orlov or
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`both cannot conduct a deposition under Chinese or
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`Russian law?
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`· · · · MR. CHAD WALTERS:· David, do you want to
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`take this one?
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`· · · · MR. WILLE:· Yeah.· This is David Wille. I
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`think I'll respond on behalf of the patent owner.
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`· · · · So, Your Honor, I would say there is a
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`concern -- Mr. Li is concerned about giving a
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`deposition under Chinese law.· And as far as he is
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`concerned, this procedure would not solve the problem
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`as to Mr. Li.· He still has a concern about China.
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`· · · · Mr. Orlov is located in Russia, and
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`petitioner was concerned about the legality of the
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`deposition in Russia.· We are not.· We have a Moscow
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`office, we have defended depositions in Russia
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`before, and we think the deposition would be legal,
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`but petitioner has concerns about that.
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`· · · · And so this is a procedure that's been
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`adopted in other IPRs where there's concern about the
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`legality of depositions, for example, in Japan, and
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`so we offered as a compromise to follow this
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`procedure so that the cross-examination could occur.
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`· · · · We also have another witness,
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`Ms. Kaminskiene, who is in Lithuania.· Again, based
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`upon the advice of our Moscow office, we believe a
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`deposition there would be legal, but petitioners
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`have concern that a deposition in Lithuania would
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`also be illegal.
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`· · · · And so these procedures would apply to
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`Mr. Orlov in Russia and Ms. Kaminskiene in Lithuania.
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`· · · · APJ WOODS:· Thank you, Mr. Wille.
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`· · · · Now, you'd referenced a prior Board
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`proceeding.· I assume that's PGR2020-00051; is that
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`correct?
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`· · · · MR. WILLE:· Mr. Stavinoha, do you know if
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`that's correct?· I can't recall the exact number of
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`that one.
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`· · · · MR. STAVINOHA:· Yes, that's correct, it's
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`PGR2020-00051.
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`· · · · APJ WOODS:· Now, I have reviewed the Board's
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`order and also the stipulation in that case, and I'm
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`not sure they are substantially similar; for example,
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`in that other case there was no stipulation that the
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`cross-examination be captioned as an interview as
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`opposed to a deposition.
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`· · · · Is my understanding correct?
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`· · · · MR. STAVINOHA:· I believe that's correct,
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`Your Honor, but we also referenced two IPR
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`proceedings -- IPR2020-01556 and -01157 -- where the
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`procedure of captioning be proceeding as an interview
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`rather than as a deposition was used.
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`· · · · APJ WOODS:· Okay.· And I'm curious.· Did the
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`Board issue an order endorsing those stipulations in
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`those two IPRs?
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`· · · · MR. STAVINOHA:· In those two IPRs I don't
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`believe there's an order endorsing them.· I believe
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`the parties were authorized to file them.· But I
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`believe counsel for petitioner was actually involved
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`in those cases; so they might be able to give you a
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`more definitive answer there.
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`· · · · APJ WOODS:· Okay.· Thank you.
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`· · · · Mr. Mark Walters, will you please explain
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`your reasons for requesting a stipulation? I
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`understand Mr. Wille had explained your concern
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`regarding the deposition of Mr. Orlov in Russia.
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`· · · · So your concern -- and please correct me if
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`I'm wrong -- you're concerned about the legality of
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`conducting these depositions or interviews in Russia
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`or China?
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`· · · · MR. MARK WALTERS:· Yeah.· Thank you,
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`Your Honor.· Mr. Fitzgibbons [sic] will handle this
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`for petitioner.
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`· · · · MR. FITZSIMMONS:· Thank you.· This is
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`Jason Fitzsimmons.
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`· · · · And so the petitioner's concern here is with
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`respect to Mr. Orlov, who is located in Russia, and
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`Ms. Kaminskiene, who is located in Lithuania.
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`· · · · An additional point being that
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`Ms. Kaminskiene would need a translator, who would be
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`Mr. Orlov, who would be located in Russia, then
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`during her interview, cross-examination.· So there's
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`sort of an interview within an interview issue going
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`on there.
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`· · · · But I think the patent owner's summary here
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`was reasonable.· Those are the concerns.
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`· · · · Our firm in the past has litigated in Russia
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`and needed to fly deponents to Belgium, and from some
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`of the information that petitioner researched, go
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`through the U.S. Department of State.
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`· · · · And then through our virtual deposition
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`cross-examination vendor, Planet Depos, found that
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`there might be an issue in both Russia and Lithuania.
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`And so we've worked with patent owner on the joint
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`stipulation here for the interview procedures,
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`Your Honors.
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`· · · · APJ WOODS:· Okay.· And thank you for that
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`explanation, Mr. Fitzsimmons.
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`· · · · And are you aware, is it -- are the
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`witnesses unable to fly to the United States or, in
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`Mr. Li's case, Hong Kong possibly to conduct the
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`cross-examinations?· Or maybe this question's better
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`suited for Mr. Wille or Mr. Chad Walters.
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`· · · · MR. FITZSIMMONS:· We don't know --
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`petitioner doesn't know.· Patent owner would be in a
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`better position to provide that information.
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`· · · · MR. WILLE:· Your Honor, our understanding
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`from -- with respect to Mr. Li is that, number one,
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`he's uncomfortable traveling for health reasons, but
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`number two, there is quarantine requirements both
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`ways when you travel to Hong Kong and China.
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`· · · · With respect to the other witnesses, I think
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`the concern, in addition to various travel
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`restrictions that are applicable now, there would be
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`a need to get visas because these are Eastern Bloc
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`countries, if you will, using maybe outdated
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`terminology.· So getting the depositions done in the
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`requisite time, et cetera, is an issue as well.
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`· · · · APJ WOODS:· Okay.· Thank you, Mr. Wille.
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`· · · · And just to summarize, so the concerns are
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`twofold.· One, in Mr. Li's case, has to do with
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`health and, I assume, related to the COVID pandemic.
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`· · · · And then as to the other two witnesses,
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`there's complications or difficulties in getting a
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`visa.· And so for just maybe practical reasons it
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`would be easier just to conduct these
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`cross-examinations or witnesses by video conference.
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`· · · · MR. WILLE:· Yes.· And let me be clear that
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`Mr. Li still believes he cannot give a deposition
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`under these procedures, which is why we have
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`requested the -- we have the motion for supplemental
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`evidence with another declarant with a second
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`translation, which is substantially the same as the
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`first translation.
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`· · · · APJ WOODS:· Okay.· Thank you, Mr. Wille.
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`· · · · So, Mr. Wille or Mr. Chad Walters, do you
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`have anything else to add before I turn it to
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`Mr. Mark Walters?
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`· · · · MR. CHAD WALTERS:· No, Your Honor.
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`· · · · MR. WILLE:· I don't have anything.
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`· · · · APJ WOODS:· Mr. Mark Walters or
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`Mr. Fitzsimmons, do you have anything to add?
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`· · · · MR. FITZSIMMONS:· Yes, Your Honor.· This is
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`Jason Fitzsimmons.
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`· · · · And, obviously, our preference would be that
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`the witnesses did come to the United States, as the
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`Board rules require.· You know, this was obviously
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`foreseeable when the patent owner was putting forth
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`these witnesses and their declarations that they
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`cross-examination is supposed to occur in the
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`United States.
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`· · · · Again, obviously, we are sensitive to the
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`fact of the global pandemic and potential travel
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`restraints, but that would obviously be petitioner's
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`preference.· If they came to the United States, it
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`would avoid any of these alternative procedures.· And
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`again, this was a foreseeable circumstance that
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`patent owner, I guess, neglected to foresee here.
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`· · · · APJ WOODS:· Okay.· Thank you,
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`Mr. Fitzsimmons.
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`· · · · Mr. Mark Walters, do you have anything?
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`· · · · MR. MARK WALTERS:· No, Your Honor.· Thank
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`you.
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`· · · · APJ WOODS:· Okay.· Well, with that, thank
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`you.· At this time my colleagues and I will convene
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`in private.· So if everyone would please remain on
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`the line, and we will return shortly.
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`· · · · (A recess was taken from 2:12 p.m. to
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`· · · · 2:21 p.m.)
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`· · · · APJ WOODS:· Thank you for waiting, everyone.
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`· · · · We have finished convening.
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`· · · · We will authorize the parties to file the
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`stipulation.· We want to make clear, however, that we
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`will not issue an order endorsing it, and we
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`understand that in PGR2020-00051, an order was issued
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`that, I think, endorsed the stipulation.· We will not
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`enter an order like that, but we will authorize the
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`parties to file the stipulation.
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`· · · · And with that, we ask that you please remove
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`that endorsement request from the stipulation.· And
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`in short order, we will issue a brief order which
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`simply authorizes the filing of the stipulation.
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`· · · · Mr. Chad Walters, do you have any questions?
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`· · · · MR. CHAD WALTERS:· No, Your Honors, I do
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`not.
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`· · · · APJ WOODS:· Okay.· Mr. Mark Walters, do you
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`have any questions?
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`· · · · MR. MARK WALTERS:· No, Your Honors.· Thank
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`you.
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`· · · · APJ WOODS:· Okay.· And, Mr. Fitzsimmons, any
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`questions?
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`· · · · MR. FITZSIMMONS:· No, Your Honors.· Thank
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`you.
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`· · · · APJ WOODS:· Okay.· Well, with that, thank
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`you for making yourselves available for the call.
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`And with that we conclude this call.· Thank you.
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`· · · · (Proceedings concluded at
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`· · · · 2:22 p.m.)
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`COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES, )
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`STATE OF CALIFORNIA,· ·)
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`· · · · ·I, Cody R. Knacke, Certified Shorthand
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`Reporter in and for the State of California, License
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`No. 13691, hereby certify that the foregoing pages
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`comprise a full, true, and correct computer-aided
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`transcript of the proceedings taken on June 30, 2021.
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`· · · · ·I further certify that I am not of counsel
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`or attorney for either or any of the parties in the
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`foregoing proceedings and caption named or in any way
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`interested in the outcome of the cause in said
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`caption.
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`· · · · In witness whereof, I have hereunto set my
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`hand this day:· July 11, 2021.
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`· · · · · · · _____________________________
`· · · · · · · CODY R. KNACKE, CSR No. 13691
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`joint 9:19
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`firm 9:12
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`Fitzgibbons 8:22
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`Fitzsimmons 4:23,24 5:4 8:24,25
`9:2310:411:17,18,1912:11
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`fly 9:13,25
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`follow 6:22
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`foresee 12:9
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`foreseeable 11:2312:8
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`found 9:17
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`Kaminskiene 6:25 7:6 9:35
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`Kessler 4:21 ,25 5:2
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`Kong 10:1,11
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`give 8:1011:4
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`giving 6:9
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`global 12:4
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`Good 4:3,19,23
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`guess 12:9
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`handle 8:22
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`law 5:13,186:3,10
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`legal 6:17 7:2
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`legality 6:14,21 8:18
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`Li 6:1,9,1210:811:4
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`Li's 5:1210:1,21
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`p.m. 4:212:19,20
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`pandemic 10:2212:4
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`parties 4:85:22 8:812:23
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`parties' 5:6
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`past 9:12
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`problem 6:11
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`petitioner 42025 5:16 6:14,18 8:9,
`23 9:1410:5
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`petitioner's 4:18 5:7,14 9:1 12:5
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`petitioners 7:2
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`PGR2020-00051 7:9,15
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`Planet 9:17
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`point 9:4
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`position 10:6
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`possibly 10:1
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`potential 12:4
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`Powers 5:1
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`practical 10:25
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`preference 11:2012:6
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`prior 7:8
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`private 12:17
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`III 5:1
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`illegal 7:4
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`information 5:11 9:1410:6
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`lnterparty 4:6
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`interview 5:21 7:20 8:1 9:7,8,20
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`interviews 8:19
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`introduce 4:8
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`involved 8:9
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`IPR 7:24
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`lPR2020-01139 5:8
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`lPR2020-01142 5:9
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`lPR2020-01556 7:25
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`Mark 4:19,20 8:13,21 11:13,1612:12,
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`Michael 4:4
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`Moscow 6:15 7:1
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`motion 5:1011:6
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`Moving 4:7
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`needed 913
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`neglected 12:9
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`Notice 5:15
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`number 7:1210:8,10
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`Lithuania 6:25 7:3,6 9:3,18
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`patent 4:9,13 5:8,10,12 6:7 9:10,19
`10:511:2312:9
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`litigated 9:12
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`Peslak 4:5
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`health 10:9,22
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`Hong 10:1,11
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`Honor 4:12,20,24 6:8 7:24 8:22 10:7
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`located 6:13 9:236
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`Honors 9:21
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`Yita LLC v
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`procedure 5:7 6:11,19,23 8:1
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`Reviews 4:6
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`procedures 7:5 9:20 11:5 12:7
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`rules 11 :22,25
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`Russia 6:13,15,16 7:6 8:16,19 9:2,6,
`12,18
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`Russian 5:18 6:3
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`scheduled 5:5
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`seek 5:22
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`sensitive 12:3
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`setting 5:6
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`shortly 12:18
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`sic 8:22
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`similar 7:18
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`solve 6:11
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`sort 9:8
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`State 9:15
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`States 9:2511:21 12:2,6
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`proceeding 7:9 8:1
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`proceedings 7:25
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`provide 10:611:25
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`provided 4:11
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`putting 11:23
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`quarantine 10:10
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`question's 10:2
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`Ralph 5:1
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`reasonable 9:11
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`reasons 8:1410:9,25
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`recall 7:12
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`recess 12:19
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`referenced 7:8,24
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`Request to File Stipulation
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`twofold 10:21
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`U.S. 9:15
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`unable 9:25
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`uncomfortable 10:9
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`understand 5:11,16,198:15
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`understanding 7:2210:7
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`United 9:2511:21 12:2,6
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`unlawful 5:17
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`vendor 9:17
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`video 11:2
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`virtual 9:16
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`visa 10:25
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`visas 10:15
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`Stavinoha 4:14 7:11,14,23 8:6
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`wrong 8:18
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`ways 10:11
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`Weatherly 4:5
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`WEDNESDAY 4:1
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`Wille 4:14 6:6 7:7,11 8:1510:3,7,19
`11:3,10,11,15
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`withdrawal 5:14
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`witnesses 5:8 9:25 10:12,23 11 :2,
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`Woods 4:3,4,16 5:3 7:7,16 8:3,12
`9:2210:1911:10,1612:10,15,21
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`worked 9:19
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`Worth 4:5
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`terminology 10:17
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`time 10:1812:16
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`translation 11:8,9
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`translator 9:5
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`travel 10:11,1312:4
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`traveling 10:9
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`turn 11:12
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`stems 5:25
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`Sterne 4:21 ,25 5:2
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`stipulation 5:6,19,25 7:17,19 8:14
`9:20 12:24
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`waiting 12:21
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`Walters 4:12,13,17,19,20 5:24 6:4
`8:13,21 10:311:11,13,14,1612:12,13
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`stipulations 8:4
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`substantially 7:1811:8
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`suited 10:3
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`summarize 10:20
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`summary 9:10
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`supplemental 5:11 11:6
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`supposed 12:1
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`related 10:22
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`remain 12:17
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`Remote 5:15
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`reporter 4:11,15
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`representatives 4:8
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`request 5:6
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`requested 11:6
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`requesting 8:14
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`require 11:22
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`requirements 10:10
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`requisite 10:18
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`researched 9:14
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`respect 9:210:8,12
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`respond 6:7
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`restraints 12:5
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`restrictions 10:14
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`return 12:18
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`reviewed 7:16
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`reviewing 5:10,14
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
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`In accordance with 37 C.F.R. § 42.6(e), the undersigned certifies that on the
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`16th day of July, 2021, a complete and entire copy of this TRANSCRIPT OF
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`TELEPHONIC CONFERENCE HELD ON JUNE 30, 2021 was served on
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`Petitioner via electronic mail at the following addresses:
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`Mark P. Walters (Reg. No. 46,050)
`walters@LoweGrahamJones.com
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`Ralph W. Powers III, Reg. No. 63,504
`tpowers-PTAB@sternekessler.com
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`Jason A. Fitzsimmons, Reg. No. 65,367
`jfitzsimmons-PTAB@sternekessler.com
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`Stephen A. Merrill, Reg. No. 72,955
`smerrill-PTAB@sternekessler.com
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`John J. Bamert, Reg. No. 74,859
`bamert@LoweGrahamJones.com
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`PTAB@sternekessler.com
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`July 16, 2021
`Date
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`/Chad C. Walters/
`Chad C. Walters (Reg. No. 48,022)
`BAKER BOTTS L.L.P.
`(214) 953-6511
`2001 Ross Ave., Suite 900
`Dallas, TX 75201-2980
`Attorneys for Patent Owner, MacNeil IP
`LLC
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