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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`YITA LLC,
`Petitioner
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`MACNEIL IP LLC,
`Patent Owner
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`Case IPR2020-01139
`U.S. Patent No. 8,382,186
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`PETITIONER’S OPPOSITION TO
`PATENT OWNER’S MOTION FOR ENTRY OF MODIFIED
`PROTECTIVE ORDER
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`Mail Stop “PATENT BOARD”
`Patent Trial and Appeal Board
`U.S. Patent and Trademark Office
`P.O. Box 1450
`Alexandria, VA 22313-1450
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`IPR2020-01139
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`PETITIONER’S UPDATED EXHIBIT LIST
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`Description
`U.S. Patent No. 8,382,186 to MacNeil et al., issued February 26,
`2013 (“’186 Patent”)
`File History of U.S. Patent No. 8,382,186 (“’186 Patent File
`History”)
`Declaration of Paul E. Koch, Ph.D.
`U.S. Patent No. 7,444,748 to MacNeil, issued November 4, 2008
`(“MacNeil”)
`French Patent Application Pre-Grant Publication No. 2547252 to
`Rabbe, published December 14, 1984, with attached certified
`English-language translation (“Rabbe”)
`U.S. Patent Application Pre–Grant Publication No.
`2002/0045029 A1 to Yung, published April 18, 2002 (“Yung”)
`Gruenwald, G., Thermoforming: A Plastics Processing Guide,
`CRC Press, 2nd Edition, 1998 (“Gruenwald”)
`Throne, J., Technology of Thermoforming, Hanser, 1996
`(“Throne I”)
`Throne, J., Understanding Thermoforming, Hanser, 2nd Edition,
`2008 (“Throne II”)
`U.S. Patent No. 2,057,873 to Atwood, issued October 20, 1936
`(“Atwood”)
`U.S. Patent No. 2,657,948 to Sturtevant, issued November 3,
`1953 (“Sturtevant”)
`U.S. Patent No. 6,793,872 to Buss, issued September 21, 2004
`(“Buss”)
`U.S. Patent No. 6,361,099 to McIntosh, issued March 26, 2002
`(“McIntosh”)
`U.S. Patent No. 4,568,581 to Peoples, issued February 4, 1986
`(“Peoples”)
`U.S. Patent No. 5,298,319 to Donahue, issued March 29, 1994
`(“Donahue”)
`DOW HDPE DGDA-5004 NT 7 Data Sheet, published October
`10, 2003
`Black Armor Web Advertisement
`Husky Liner Advertisement, August 24, 2000
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`Exhibit No.
`1001
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`1002
`1003
`1004
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`1005
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`1006
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`1007
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`1008
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`1009
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`1010
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`1011
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`1012
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`1013
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`1014
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`1016
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`1018
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`Description
`U.S. Patent No. 4,420,180 to Dupont et al., issued December 13,
`1983 (“Dupont”)
`U.S. Patent No. 4,280,729 to Morawski, issued July 28, 1981
`(“Morawski”)
`European Patent Application Publication No. 0379630 to
`Sagona, published August 1, 1990 (“Sagona”)
`File History of U.S. Patent No. 8,267,459 (“’459 Prosecution
`History”)
`U.S. Patent No. 3,390,912 to Stata, issued July 2, 1968 (“Stata”)
`German Patent Application Publication No. 4000877 to
`Weitbrecht et al., published July 18, 1991
`U.S. Patent No. 6,027,782 to Sherman, issued February 22, 2000
`Japanese Patent Application No. H11-268570 to Suzuki,
`published October 5, 1999, with attached certified English-
`language translation (“Suzuki”)
`Word Comparison of the ’703 Application as filed to the ’899
`Application as filed
`U.S. Patent No. 8,833,834 to MacNeil et al., issued September
`16, 2014 (“’834 Patent”)
`Plastic Extrusion Tolerance Guide
`Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, Eleventh Edition,
`2003
`Oxford Compact English Dictionary, First Edition, 2000
`Curriculum Vitae of Paul E. Koch, Ph.D. (“Koch CV”)
`Declaration of Sylvia Hall-Ellis, Ph.D. (“Hall-Ellis Decl.”)
`U.S. Patent No. 8,910,995 to MacNeil et al. (“’995 Patent”)
`U.S. Patent No. 6,058,618 to Hemmelgarn et al.
`(“Hemmelgarn”)
`Webster’s Third New International Dictionary, 1961
`Transcript of Teleconference between Board and Parties,
`November 13, 2020
`Communications between MacNeil and Yita regarding the
`proposed modifications to the protective order
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`Exhibit No.
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`MacNeil seeks to enter a protective order that significantly alters the Board’s
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`default protective order. MacNeil’s restrictions would deny access to all
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`individuals at Petitioner Yita, including in-house counsel, and create a special class
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`of confidential information designated “PROTECTIVE ORDER MATERIAL –
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`ATTORNEYS’ EYES ONLY” (“Attorneys’ Eyes Only”). See Paper 27, Motion
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`for Entry of Protective Order, Appendix B (redline comparison to Board’s default
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`protective order). MacNeil seeks to prohibit everyone at Yita, including in-house
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`counsel, from accessing material that MacNeil self-designates as “Attorneys’ Eyes
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`Only.” Id.
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`But the Board’s default protective order is sufficient here, and MacNeil has
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`not shown otherwise. MacNeil’s modified protective order imposes unduly
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`prejudicial restrictions that are inconsistent with the integrity of this proceeding
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`and run afoul of the careful balance struck by the Board’s default protective order.
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`MacNeil should not be able to argue that certain evidence demonstrates
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`patentability on the one hand, while simultaneously arguing that the very same
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`evidence cannot be seen by Yita on the other. Accordingly, the Board should deny
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`MacNeil’s Motion.
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`I. Without agreement between the parties over a modified protective order,
`the Board’s default protective order should be entered.
`Because the parties have not agreed on the entry of a protective order,
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`according to the Trial Practice Guide, the Board should enter the default protective
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`order. The Office Patent Trial Practice Guide encourages parties “to agree on the
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`entry of a stipulated protective order.” Office Patent Trial Practice Guide,
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`Appendix B, 77 Fed. Reg. 48756, 48769 (Aug. 14, 2012). “Absent such agreement,
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`the default standing protective order will be automatically entered.”1 Id.
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`Despite objections from Yita about MacNeil’s deviations from the default
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`protective order, MacNeil unilaterally proceeded and now seeks to have entered its
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`divergent protective order. MacNeil’s changes are not trivial. For example, the
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`Board’s default protective order requires “persons who are named parties to the
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`proceeding” and “[i]n-house counsel of a party” to have access to protective order
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`material. Patent Trial and Appeal Board Consolidated Trial Practice Guide, 108
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`(Nov. 2019), https://www.uspto.gov/TrialPracticeGuideConsolidated
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`(“Consolidated Trial Practice Guide”). MacNeil’s proposed altered protective order
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`excludes these persons from accessing any materials that MacNeil self-designates
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`as “Attorneys’ Eyes Only.” Motion, 2-3, Appendix A.
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`MacNeil first notified Yita of its proposed, altered protective order five days
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`before filing its Patent Owner’s Response. See EX1038, 3-4. (communications
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`between MacNeil and Yita regarding the proposed modifications to the protective
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`order). In return, Yita raised its concerns about the additional restrictive terms in
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`MacNeil’s proposed protective order and suggested entry of the Board’s default
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`1 Emphasis added throughout unless noted.
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`protective order. Id., 1-3. But MacNeil refused to negotiate these terms with Yita.
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`Id., 1.
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`Because the parties have not agreed to a stipulated protective order, the
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`default protective order should be automatically entered consistent with the Trial
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`Practice Guide. Office Patent Trial Practice Guide, Appendix B, 77 Fed. Reg.
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`48756, 48769 (Aug. 14, 2012).
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`II. MacNeil’s modifications violate the Trial Practice Guide by failing to
`define the types of information belonging in the “Attorneys’ Eyes Only”
`designation.
`“A protective order that deviates from the Board's default protective order
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`must nonetheless include certain terms as outlined in the Office Patent Trial
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`Practice Guide ….” CRS Advanced Techs., Inc. v. Frontline Techs., Inc.,
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`CBM2012-00005, Paper 43 at 3 (P.T.A.B. May 28, 2013) (citing Office Patent
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`Trial Practice Guide 77 Fed. Reg. 48756, 48770 (Aug. 14, 2012)). For example,
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`modified protective orders “must adequately define what types of materials are to
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`be included in any additional tier or category of confidential information, such as
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`Attorneys’ Eyes Only category.” Coolpad Techs., etc. v. Bell N. Research LLC,
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`IPR2019-01319, Paper 40, 5 (P.T.A.B. June 2, 2020.). Indeed, the Office Patent
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`Trial Practice Guide states that “[t]he Board will not accept overly inclusive
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`definitions that encourage the parties to categorize all or most of their discovery
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`materials as ‘Attorneys’ Eyes Only.’” Consolidated Trial Practice Guide, 116.
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`Here, MacNeil does not define the type of information to be included in its
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`additional category for “Attorneys’ Eyes Only.” Rather, MacNeil merely
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`“contemplates” that the parties will use the “Attorneys’ Eyes Only” designation for
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`documents that would qualify for this second tier of confidentiality in district court
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`discovery practice. Motion, 4. However, MacNeil’s tenuous suggestion for
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`parallelism between the protective order designations in the district court
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`proceeding (where discovery is voluminous) and the PTAB proceeding (where
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`discovery is closely circumscribed) is inappropriate and in conflict with previous
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`PTAB guidance. See Consolidated Trial Practice Guide, 116; see also Coolpad
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`Techs., Paper 40 at 4-5 (denying motion to enter a modified protective order
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`because Petitioner did not adequately define the types of material to be included
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`under the additional tier of confidentiality); Illumina, Inc. v. Natera, Inc., IPR2019-
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`01201, Paper 19, 49 (P.T.A.B. Dec. 18, 2019) (denying Petitioner’s motion for
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`“Attorney Eyes’ Only” category of confidentiality for not adequately defining the
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`types of materials to be included in this additional category of confidentiality);
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`Guardant Health, Inc. v. Foundation Med., Inc., IPR2017-01170, Paper 31, 3
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`(P.T.A.B. April 4, 2018) (denying Patent Owner’s motion to enter modified
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`protective order for imposing an overbroad restriction).
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`MacNeil’s reliance on the district court’s protective order to define the types
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`of materials belonging in the additional tier of confidentiality does not satisfy the
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`terms of the Office Patent Trial Practice Guide. See Consolidated Trial Practice
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`Guide, 116; Illumina, Inc., Paper 19 at 49 (“The Board will not undertake to
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`review the district court protective order to identify which provisions of that
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`protective order Petitioner intends to have applied here.”) Indeed, the district
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`court’s protective order broadly defines the type of information to be included in
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`the “Attorney Eyes Only” category. See Motion, Appendix C, Section 2.2.
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`(“‘Outside Counsel Attorneys Eyes Only’ material shall include documents … that
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`… are reasonably believed by the designating party to represent … confidential
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`commercial information … that its dissemination cannot adequately be covered by
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`the protections set forth for confidential materials.”) The broad and inclusive
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`definition under the district court proceeding for “Attorneys’ Eyes Only”
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`information simply is not suitable for the type of information MacNeil offers in the
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`IPR proceeding, and MacNeil has not shown otherwise.
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`Thus, prohibiting all of Yita’s in-house counsel and personnel from viewing
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`material that MacNeil labels “Attorney’s Eyes Only,” yet hinges its patentability
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`arguments on, is inconsistent with the integrity and efficient administration of the
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`proceeding. Consolidated Trial Practice Guide, 115-116; see also Coolpad Techs.,
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`Paper 40 at 2 (“The parties may propose modifications to the Default Protective
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`Order and the Board will generally accept such proposed changes if they are
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`consistent with the integrity and efficient administration of the proceedings.” 2).
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`Accordingly, the Board should deny entry of MacNeil’s modified protective order.
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`III. MacNeil’s modifications to the Board’s default protective order are
`unnecessary.
`The standard acknowledgement of the Board’s default protective order
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`requires that confidential information will only be used “in connection with this
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`proceeding and for no other purpose.” Consolidated Trial Practice Guide, 113, 121.
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`This restriction in the standard acknowledgement shields MacNeil’s business
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`interests from competitors who may come across potential confidential business
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`information disclosed in this proceeding. Rather than accepting this scope of
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`protection, MacNeil proposes an overly inclusive measure—denying all of Yita’s
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`in-house counsel and personnel access to any information that MacNeil designates
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`“Attorneys’ Eyes Only.” Motion, 2-3.
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`MacNeil, however, does not explain why the standard acknowledgement of
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`the Board’s default protective order is insufficient to protect its business interests.
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`Attempting to justify its proposed changes, MacNeil refers to two decisions—Endo
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`Pharms., Inc. v. Depomed, Inc., IPR2014-00652, Paper 61, 2 (P.T.A.B. June 3,
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`2 This guidance appears to apply in circumstances where the parties agree on
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`the proposed changes to the Default Protective Order. Of course, this is not the
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`case here.
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`2015) and Cisco Systems, Inc. v. Crossroads Systems, Inc., IPR2014-01544, Paper
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`50, 29 (P.T.A.B. Jan. 29, 2016)—where the Board sealed exhibits that disclosed
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`product sales and licensing information, similar to the information MacNeil seeks
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`to seal here. But in Cisco Systems, the Board entered the default protective order,
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`not a modified protective order. See Cisco Sys., Inc. v. Crossroads Sys., Inc.,
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`IPR2014-01544, Paper 39 at 2 (P.T.A.B. Sep. 29, 2015). And in Endo
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`Pharmaceuticals, the Board entered a stipulated protective order that still provided
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`access to designated in-house counsel of the parties, unlike MacNeil’s modified
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`protective order that restricts access to all of Yita’s in-house counsel and
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`personnel. Compare Endo Pharms, Inc. v. Depomed, Inc., IPR2014-00652, Paper
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`24, Exhibit B (P.T.A.B. Dec. 22, 2014), with Motion, Appendix B.
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`Thus, MacNeil’s proposed changes to the Board’s default protective order—
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`restricting all of Yita’s in-house counsel and personnel from accessing any
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`information that MacNeil designates “Attorneys’ Eyes Only”—exceed what is
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`necessary to protect its business interests.
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`IV. MacNeil fails to show “good cause” for modifying the Board’s default
`protective order.
`In addition to meeting all the requirements outlined in the Office Patent Trial
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`Practice Guide, MacNeil must still show “good cause” for entering its modified
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`protective order in lieu of the Board’s default protective order. 37 C.F.R. §§ 42.20,
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`42.54. As demonstrated below, MacNeil has failed to meet its burden.
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`A. MacNeil does not show that concrete harm would result from
`disclosing the redacted material to the restricted parties.
`One requirement for establishing “good cause” is showing that concrete
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`harm would result from disclosing the protected material to the public or the
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`prohibited party. See Argentum Pharms. LLC v. Alcon Research, Ltd., IPR2017-
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`01053, Paper 27, 3-4 (P.T.A.B. Jan. 19, 2018) (informative); Intri-Plex Techs.,
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`Inc., etc. v. Saint-Gobain Performance Plastics Rencol Ltd., IPR2014-00309,
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`Paper 35 at 5-6 (P.T.A.B. Aug. 27, 2014).
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`For example, in Intri-Plex Techs., the Board denied entry of a modified
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`protective order because the moving party failed to show that concrete harm would
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`result from entering the Board’s default protective order. Intri-Plex Techs., Paper
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`35 at 5-6. In that case, Patent Owner—Saint-Gobain—moved for entry of a non-
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`standard protective order and sought to redact various materials, including
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`“[i]nformation related to the volume of sales of alleged commercial embodiments
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`of the patented invention.” Id. at 5. Without submitting any evidence that it would
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`suffer injury if a default protective order was entered, Saint-Gobain expressed
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`concerns that its confidential information may be disclosed to employees of the
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`petitioner—Intri-Plex—who could allegedly exploit such information for Intri-
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`Plex’s advantage. Id. at 5-6. The Board denied entry of Saint-Gobain’s non-
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`standard protective order because Saint-Gobain failed to show how it “will suffer
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`substantial harm if the Board does not enter Saint-Gobain’s proposed, non-standard
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`Protective Order” and “why its concerns are not addressed adequately by … [the
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`Board’s] default Protective Order.” Id. at 5-6.
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`Likewise here, MacNeil fails to show that concrete harm would result from
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`entering the Board’s default protective order instead of its more restrictive
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`protective order. Specifically, MacNeil contends that its Patent Owner’s Response
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`and Exhibit 2042 “may include competitively-sensitive business information.”
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`Motion, 1-2. The potential sensitive business information redacted from these
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`documents is the number of sold tray sets and the gross sales revenue generated
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`between years 2004 and 2020. POR, 77-78; EX2042, 31. MacNeil indecisively
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`alleges that providing access to this information “could cause harm to the
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`producing party” and that “allowing any party representative to view potentially
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`confidential business information could be harmful to the other party’s business
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`interests.” Motion, 2-3.
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`MacNeil’s statements merely speculate about the possibility of harm if its
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`more restrictive protective order is not entered by the Board. Nowhere does
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`MacNeil describe any particular, concrete adverse consequences that will result
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`from disclosing the sales data to the restricted parties. Nor does MacNeil provide
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`any underlying facts or reasoned analysis supporting its speculations.
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`Accordingly, just as the Board denied entry of Saint-Gobain’s non-standard
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`protective order for failing to show concrete harm, the Board should likewise deny
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`entry of MacNeil’s modified protective order.
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`The district court’s protective order in parallel litigation does not
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`establish “good cause” for modifying the Board’s default protective
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`MacNeil also references the district court’s protective order in parallel
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`litigation as alleged support for its modified protective order. Motion, 2-3.
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`Particularly, MacNeil notes that the district court’s protective order prohibits all
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`party representatives, including the parties’ in-house counsel, from accessing
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`documents designated “Attorneys’ Eyes Only.” Id. But the district court’s
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`protective order is irrelevant here.
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`The standard for the Board to enter protective orders differs from district
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`court. See Consolidated Trial Practice Guide, 116 (explaining to remove provisions
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`in district court protective orders that are unnecessary or inappropriate in inter
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`partes review proceedings). And a protective order previously entered by a district
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`court in parallel litigation, alone, does not justify entering a protective order in the
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`inter partes review. See Great W. Cas. Co., v. Intellectual Ventures II LLC,
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`IPR2015-01706, Paper 60, 3-4 (P.T.A.B Aug. 6, 2019) (denying motion that
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`merely refers to district court protective order to support entry of protective order
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`in IPR); Guardant Health, Inc., Paper 36 at 4 (proposed restrictions in parallel
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`district court litigation do not justify adopting the same restrictions in protective
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`orders in inter partes review); Skechers U.S.A., Inc. v. Nike, Inc., IPR2017-00620,
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`Paper 31 at 2-4 (P.T.A.B. Sep. 25, 2017) (denying unopposed motion to seal
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`because good cause is not shown by stating that the document at issue was
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`“previously sealed by a district court”).
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`Thus, the district court’s protective order does not establish “good cause” for
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`entering a second tier of confidentiality that restricts Yita’s in-house counsel from
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`accessing material that MacNeil self-designates “Attorneys’ Eyes Only.”
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`V. Conclusion
`The parties have not agreed on a modified protective order, and accordingly,
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`in keeping with the Trial Practice Guide, the default protective order should be
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`entered. Furthermore, MacNeil fails to show “good cause” for modifying the
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`Board’s default protective order, neglecting to even define the type of information
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`falling under the “Attorneys’ Eyes Only” designation. Yita respectfully requests
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`that the Board deny MacNeil’s Motion to enter its modified protective order.
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`Respectfully submitted,
`STERNE, KESSLER, GOLDSTEIN & FOX P.L.L.C.
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`/ R. Wilson Powers III /
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`R. Wilson Powers III (Reg. No. 63,504)
`Attorney for Petitioner
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`Date: June 7, 2021
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`1100 New York Avenue, N.W.
`Washington, D.C. 20005-3934
`(202) 371-2600
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`CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE WITH PAGE LIMITATION,
`TYPEFACE REQUIREMENTS, AND TYPE STYLE REQUIREMENTS
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`This Petitioner’s Opposition to Patent Owner’s Motion for Entry of
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`Modified Protective Order complies with the page limitation of 15 pages,
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`excluding the parts exempted by 37 C.F.R. § 42.24(a).
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`2.
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`This Petitioner’s Opposition to Patent Owner’s Motion for Entry of
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`Modified Protective Order complies with the general format requirements of 37
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`C.F.R. § 42.6(a) and has been prepared using Microsoft® Word 2016 in 14 point
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`Times New Roman.
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`Respectfully submitted,
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`STERNE, KESSLER, GOLDSTEIN & FOX P.L.L.C.
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`R. Wilson Powers III (Reg. No. 63,504)
`Attorney for Petitioner
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`Date: June 7, 2021
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`1100 New York Avenue, N.W.
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`CERTIFICATION OF SERVICE (37 C.F.R. § 42.6(e))
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`The undersigned hereby certifies that on June 7, 2021, true and correct
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`copies of the foregoing PETITIONER’S OPPOSITION TO PATENT
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`OWNER’S MOTION FOR ENTRY OF MODIFIED PROTECTIVE ORDER
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`and EXHIBIT 1038 were served electronically via e-mail in its entirety on the
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`following counsel for Patent Owner:
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`David G. Wille (Lead Counsel)
`Chad C. Walters (Back-up Counsel)
`Clarke W. Stavinoha (Back-up Counsel)
`BAKER BOTTS L.L.P.
`david.wille@bakerbotts.com
`chad.walters@bakerbotts.com
`clarke.stavinoha@bakerbotts.com
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`Jefferson Perkins (Back-up Counsel)
`PERKINS IP LAW GROUP LLC
`jperkins@perkinsip.com
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`STERNE, KESSLER, GOLDSTEIN & FOX P.L.L.C.
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`/ R. Wilson Powers III /
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`R. Wilson Powers III (Reg. No. 63,504)
`Attorney for Petitioner
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`Date: June 7, 2021
`1100 New York Avenue, N.W.
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