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`Patent No. 8,382,186
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`DECLARATION OF JAMES L. THRONE, PH.D.
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`Patent No. 8,382,186
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`32.
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`In my opinion, knowledge and experience in the thermoforming
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`industry is critical to understanding the ’186 patent’s thermoforming processes,
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