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`571-272-7822
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`Paper 22
`Date: September 11, 2020
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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
`
`
`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
`
`
`JUNIPER NETWORKS, INC. and PALO ALTO NETWORKS, INC.,
`Petitioner,
`v.
`PACKET INTELLIGENCE LLC,
`Patent Owner.
`
`
`IPR2020-00336 (Patent 6,665,725 B1)
` IPR2020-00337 (Patent 6,771,646 B1)1
`
`
`
`Before STACEY G. WHITE, CHARLES J. BOUDREAU, and
`JOHN D. HAMANN, Administrative Patent Judges.
`
`BOUDREAU, Administrative Patent Judge.
`
`
`
`SCHEDULING ORDER
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`1 These cases have not been joined or consolidated. Rather, this Order
`addresses issues that are the same in the identified cases. We exercise our
`discretion to issue one Order to be filed in each case. The parties, however,
`are not authorized to use this filing style in subsequent papers.
`
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`571-272-7822
`
`Paper 22
`Date: September 11, 2020
`
`
`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
`
`
`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
`
`
`JUNIPER NETWORKS, INC. and PALO ALTO NETWORKS, INC.,
`Petitioner,
`v.
`PACKET INTELLIGENCE LLC,
`Patent Owner.
`
`
`IPR2020-00336 (Patent 6,665,725 B1)
` IPR2020-00337 (Patent 6,771,646 B1)1
`
`
`
`Before STACEY G. WHITE, CHARLES J. BOUDREAU, and
`JOHN D. HAMANN, Administrative Patent Judges.
`
`BOUDREAU, Administrative Patent Judge.
`
`
`
`SCHEDULING ORDER
`
`
`
`
`
`
`
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`
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`1 These cases have not been joined or consolidated. Rather, this Order
`addresses issues that are the same in the identified cases. We exercise our
`discretion to issue one Order to be filed in each case. The parties, however,
`are not authorized to use this filing style in subsequent papers.
`
`
`
`IPR2020-00336 (Patent 6,665,725 B1)
`IPR2020-00337 (Patent 6,771,646 B1)
`
`
`A. GENERAL INSTRUCTIONS
`Initial and Additional Conference Calls
`1.
`The parties are directed to contact the Board within a month of this
`Order if there is a need to discuss proposed changes to this Scheduling Order
`or proposed motions that have not been authorized in this Order or other
`prior Order or Notice. See Consolidated Trial Practice Guide (“Consolidated
`Practice Guide”)2 at 9–10, 65 (guidance in preparing for a conference call);
`see also 84 Fed. Reg. 64,280 (Nov. 21, 2019). A request for an initial
`conference call shall include a list of proposed motions, if any, to be
`discussed during the call.
`The parties may request additional conference calls as needed. Any
`email requesting a conference call with the Board should: (a) copy all
`parties, (b) indicate generally the relief being requested or the subject matter
`of the conference call, (c) include multiple times when all parties are
`available, (d) state whether the opposing party opposes any relief requested,
`and (e) if opposed, either certify that the parties have met and conferred
`telephonically or in person to attempt to reach agreement, or explain why
`such meet and confer did not occur. The email may not contain substantive
`argument and, unless otherwise authorized, may not include attachments.
`See Consolidated Practice Guide at 9–10.
`2.
`Protective Order
`No protective order shall apply to these proceedings until the Board
`enters one. If either party files a motion to seal before entry of a protective
`order, a jointly proposed protective order shall be filed as an exhibit with the
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`2 Available at https://www.uspto.gov/TrialPracticeGuideConsolidated.
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`IPR2020-00336 (Patent 6,665,725 B1)
`IPR2020-00337 (Patent 6,771,646 B1)
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`motion. The Board encourages the parties to adopt the Board’s default
`protective order if they conclude that a protective order is necessary. See
`Consolidated Practice Guide at 107–122 (App. B, Protective Order
`Guidelines and Default Protective Order). If the parties choose to propose a
`protective order deviating from the default protective order, they must
`submit the proposed protective order jointly along with a marked-up
`comparison of the proposed and default protective orders showing the
`differences between the two and explain why good cause exists to deviate
`from the default protective order.
`The Board has a strong interest in the public availability of trial
`proceedings. Redactions to documents filed in these proceedings should be
`limited to the minimum amount necessary to protect confidential
`information, and the thrust of the underlying argument or evidence must be
`clearly discernible from the redacted versions. We also advise the parties
`that information subject to a protective order may become public if
`identified in a final written decision in this proceeding, and that a motion to
`expunge the information will not necessarily prevail over the public interest
`in maintaining a complete and understandable file history. See Consolidated
`Practice Guide at 21–22.
`
`Discovery Disputes
`3.
`The Board encourages parties to resolve disputes relating to discovery
`on their own. To the extent that a dispute arises between the parties relating
`to discovery, the parties must meet and confer to resolve such a dispute
`before contacting the Board. If attempts to resolve the dispute fail, a party
`may request a conference call with the Board.
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`IPR2020-00336 (Patent 6,665,725 B1)
`IPR2020-00337 (Patent 6,771,646 B1)
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`Testimony
`4.
`The parties are reminded that the Testimony Guidelines appended to
`the Consolidated Practice Guide at 127–130 (App. D, Testimony Guidelines)
`apply to these proceedings. The Board may impose an appropriate sanction
`for failure to adhere to the Testimony Guidelines. 37 C.F.R. § 42.12. For
`example, reasonable expenses and attorneys’ fees incurred by any party may
`be levied on a person who impedes, delays, or frustrates the fair examination
`of a witness.
`
`Cross-Examination
`5.
`Except as the parties might otherwise agree, for each due date:
`Cross-examination ordinarily takes place after any supplemental evidence is
`due. 37 C.F.R. § 42.53(d)(2).
`Cross-examination ordinarily ends no later than a week before the
`filing date for any paper in which the cross-examination testimony is
`expected to be used. Id.
`
`6. Motion to Amend
`Patent Owner may file a motion to amend without prior authorization
`from the Board. Nevertheless, Patent Owner must confer with the Board
`before filing such a motion. 37 C.F.R. § 42.121(a). To satisfy this
`requirement, Patent Owner should request a conference call with the Board
`no later than two weeks prior to DUE DATE 1. See Section B below
`regarding DUE DATES.
`Patent Owner has the option to receive preliminary guidance from the
`Board on its motion to amend. See Notice Regarding a New Pilot Program
`Concerning Motion to Amend Practice and Procedures in Trial Proceedings
`under the America Invents Act before the Patent Trial and Appeal Board,
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`IPR2020-00336 (Patent 6,665,725 B1)
`IPR2020-00337 (Patent 6,771,646 B1)
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`84 Fed. Reg. 9497 (Mar. 15, 2019) (“MTA Pilot Program Notice”); see also
`Consolidated Practice Guide at 67. If Patent Owner elects to request
`preliminary guidance from the Board on its motion, it must do so in its
`motion to amend filed on DUE DATE 1.
`Any motion to amend and briefing related to such a motion shall
`generally follow the practices and procedures described in MTA Pilot
`Program Notice unless otherwise ordered by the Board in these proceedings.
`The parties are further directed to the Board’s Guidance on Motions to
`Amend in view of Aqua Products (https://go.usa.gov/xU6YV), and
`Lectrosonics, Inc. v. Zaxcom, Inc., IPR2018-01129, Paper 15 (PTAB
`Feb. 25, 2019) (precedential).
`At DUE DATE 3, Patent Owner has the option to file a reply to the
`opposition to the motion to amend and preliminary guidance, or a revised
`motion to amend. See MTA Pilot Program Notice at 9500–01. Patent
`Owner may elect to file a revised motion to amend even if Patent Owner did
`not request to receive preliminary guidance on its motion to amend. A
`revised motion to amend must provide amendments, arguments, and/or
`evidence in a manner that is responsive to issues raised in the preliminary
`guidance and/or Petitioner’s opposition.
`If Patent Owner files a revised motion to amend, the Board shall enter
`a revised scheduling order setting the briefing schedule for that revised
`motion and adjusting other due dates as needed. See MTA Pilot Program
`Notice at 9501, App. 1B.
`As also discussed in the MTA Pilot Program Notice, if the Board
`issues preliminary guidance on the motion to amend, and Patent Owner files
`neither a reply to the opposition to the motion to amend nor a revised motion
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`IPR2020-00336 (Patent 6,665,725 B1)
`IPR2020-00337 (Patent 6,771,646 B1)
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`to amend at DUE DATE 3, Petitioner may file a reply to the Board’s
`preliminary guidance, no later than three weeks after DUE DATE 3. The
`reply may only respond to the preliminary guidance. Patent Owner may file
`a sur-reply in response to Petitioner’s reply to the Board’s preliminary
`guidance. The sur-reply may only respond to arguments made in the reply
`and must be filed no later than three weeks after Petitioner’s reply. See
`MTA Pilot Program Notice at 9502. No new evidence may accompany the
`reply or the sur-reply in this situation.
`7.
`Oral Argument
`Requests for oral argument must comply with 37 C.F.R. § 42.70(a).
`To permit the Board sufficient time to schedule the oral argument, the
`parties may not stipulate to an extension of the request for oral argument
`beyond the date set forth in the Due Date Appendix.
`Unless the Board notifies the parties otherwise, oral arguments in
`these proceedings, if requested, will be held at the San Jose, California,
`USPTO Regional Office.
`The parties may request that the oral arguments instead be held at the
`USPTO headquarters in Alexandria. The parties should meet and confer,
`and jointly propose the parties’ preference at the initial conference call, if
`requested. Alternatively, the parties may jointly file a paper stating their
`preference for the hearing location within one month of this Order. Note
`that the Board may not be able to honor the parties’ preference of hearing
`location due to, among other things, the availability of hearing room
`resources and the needs of the panel. The Board will consider the location
`request and notify the parties accordingly if a request for change in location
`is granted.
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`IPR2020-00336 (Patent 6,665,725 B1)
`IPR2020-00337 (Patent 6,771,646 B1)
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`Seating in the Board’s hearing rooms may be limited, and will be
`available on a first-come, first-served basis. If either party anticipates that
`more than five individuals will attend the argument on its behalf, the party
`should notify the Board as soon as possible, and no later than the requests
`for oral argument. Parties should note that the earlier a request for
`accommodation is made, the more likely the Board will be able to
`accommodate additional individuals.
`
`
`B. DUE DATES
`This Order sets due dates for the parties to take action after institution
`of each of the referenced proceedings. The parties may stipulate different
`dates for DUE DATES 1, 5, and 6, as well as the portion of DUE DATE 2
`related to Petitioner’s reply (earlier or later, but no later than DUE DATE 3
`for Patent Owner’s sur-reply) and the portion of DUE DATE 3 related to
`Patent Owner’s sur-reply (earlier or later, but no later than DUE DATE 7).
`The parties may not stipulate to a different date for the portion of DUE
`DATE 2 related to Petitioner’s opposition to a motion to amend, or for the
`portion of DUE DATE 3 related to Patent Owner’s reply to an opposition to
`a motion to amend (or Patent Owner’s revised motion to amend) without
`prior authorization from the Board. In stipulating to move any due dates in
`the scheduling order, the parties must be cognizant that the Board requires
`four weeks after the filing of an opposition to the motion to amend (or the
`due date for the opposition, if none is filed) for the Board to issue its
`preliminary guidance, if requested by Patent Owner. A notice of the
`stipulation, specifically identifying the changed due dates, must be promptly
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`IPR2020-00336 (Patent 6,665,725 B1)
`IPR2020-00337 (Patent 6,771,646 B1)
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`filed. The parties may not stipulate an extension of DUE DATES 4, 7, and
`8.
`
`In stipulating different times, the parties should consider the effect of
`the stipulation on times to object to evidence (37 C.F.R. § 42.64(b)(1)), to
`supplement evidence (§ 42.64(b)(2)), to conduct cross-examination
`(§ 42.53(d)(2)), and to draft papers depending on the evidence and cross-
`examination testimony.
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`DUE DATE 1
`
`1.
`Patent Owner may file—
`a. A response to the petition (37 C.F.R. § 42.120). If Patent Owner
`elects not to file a response, Patent Owner must arrange a conference call
`with the parties and the Board. Patent Owner is cautioned that any
`arguments for patentability not raised in the response may be deemed
`waived.
`b. A motion to amend the patent (37 C.F.R. § 42.121).
`DUE DATE 2
`2.
`Petitioner may file a reply to the Patent Owner’s response.
`Petitioner may file an opposition to the motion to amend.
`DUE DATE 3
`3.
`Patent Owner may file a sur-reply to Petitioner’s reply.
`Patent Owner may also file either:
`a. a reply to the opposition to the motion to amend and/or preliminary
`guidance (if provided); or
`b. a revised motion to amend.
`NOTE: If Patent Owner files neither of the above papers (a reply to
`the opposition or a revised motion to amend), and the Board has issued
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`IPR2020-00336 (Patent 6,665,725 B1)
`IPR2020-00337 (Patent 6,771,646 B1)
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`preliminary guidance, Petitioner may file a reply to the preliminary
`guidance, no later than three weeks after DUE DATE 3. Patent Owner may
`file a sur-reply to Petitioner’s reply to the preliminary guidance no later than
`three weeks after Petitioner’s reply.
`DUE DATE 4
`4.
`Either party may file a request for oral argument (may not be extended
`by stipulation).
`
`DUE DATE 5
`5.
`Petitioner may file a sur-reply to Patent Owner’s reply to the
`opposition to the motion to amend.
`Either party may file a motion to exclude evidence (37 C.F.R.
`§ 42.64(c)).
`
`DUE DATE 6
`6.
`Either party may file an opposition to a motion to exclude evidence.
`Either party may request that the Board hold a pre-hearing conference.
`DUE DATE 7
`7.
`Either party may file a reply to an opposition to a motion to exclude
`evidence.
`
`DUE DATE 8
`8.
`The oral argument (if requested by either party) shall be held on this
`date. Approximately one month prior to the argument, the Board will issue
`an order setting the start time of the hearings and the procedures that will
`govern the parties’ arguments.
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`IPR2020-00336 (Patent 6,665,725 B1)
`IPR2020-00337 (Patent 6,771,646 B1)
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`DUE DATE APPENDIX
`DUE DATE 1 ..................................................................... December 3, 2020
`Patent Owner’s response to the petition
`Patent Owner’s motion to amend the patent
`DUE DATE 2 ..................................................................... February 25, 2021
`Petitioner’s reply to Patent Owner’s response to petition
`Petitioner’s opposition to motion to amend
`DUE DATE 3 ............................................................................. April 8, 2021
`Patent Owner’s sur-reply to reply
`Patent Owner’s reply to opposition to motion to amend
`(or Patent Owner’s revised motion to amend)3
`DUE DATE 4 ........................................................................... April 29, 2021
`Request for oral argument (may not be extended by stipulation)
`DUE DATE 5 ............................................................................ May 20, 2021
`Petitioner’s sur-reply to reply to opposition to motion to amend
`Motion to exclude evidence
`DUE DATE 6 ............................................................................ May 27, 2021
`Opposition to motion to exclude
`Request for prehearing conference
`DUE DATE 7 .............................................................................. June 3, 2021
`Reply to opposition to motion to exclude
`DUE DATE 8 ............................................................................ June 10, 2021
`Oral argument (if requested)
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`3 If Patent Owner files neither a reply to Petitioner’s opposition to the MTA
`nor a revised MTA, the parties are directed to Section B(3) above.
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`IPR2020-00336 (Patent 6,665,725 B1)
`IPR2020-00337 (Patent 6,771,646 B1)
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`For PETITIONER:
`
`Joseph Edell
`Adam Allgood
`FISCH SIGLER LLP
`joe.edell.ipr@fischllp.com
`adam.allgood@fischllp.com
`
`Scott McKeown
`James Batchelder
`Mark Rowland
`ROPES & GRAY LLP
`scott.mckeown@ropesgray.com
`james.batchelder@ropesgray.com
`mark.rowland@ropesgray.com
`
`
`For PATENT OWNER:
`
`Robert Bullwinkel
`Michael Heim
`HEIM PAYNE & CHORUSH, LLP
`abullwinkel@hpcllp.com
`mheim@hpcllp.com
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