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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`_________________
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`PROLLENIUM US INC.,
`Petitioner,
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`v.
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`ALLERGAN INDUSTRIE, SAS,
`Patent Owner.
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`_________________
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`IPR2019-01505 (Patent 8,450,475)
`IPR2019-01506 (Patent 8,357,795)
`IPR2019-01508 (Patent 9,238,013)
`IPR2019-01509 (Patent 9,358,322)
`IPR2019-01617 (Patent 8,822,676)
`IPR2019-01632 (Patent 8,357,795)
`IPR2020-00084 (Patent 9,089,519)
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`_________________
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`PETITIONER’S REQUEST FOR ORAL ARGUMENT
`UNDER 37 C.F.R. § 42.70(a)1
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`1 Authorization for the use of a joint caption page was received on April 27, 2020.
`Neither party opposes the use of a joint caption page. An identical paper has been
`filed in each case recited in the consolidated caption.
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`
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`IPR2019-01505, IPR2019-01506, IPR2019-01508, IPR2019-01509,
`IPR2019-01617, IPR2019-01632, IPR2020-00084
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`In accordance with 37 C.F.R. § 42.70 and the Board’s April 13, 2020,
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`Scheduling Order, Petitioner Prollenium US Inc. (Prollenium) requests oral
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`argument in the seven proceedings identified in the joint caption above.
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`I.
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`ORAL ARGUMENT CONSOLIDATION AND TIMING
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`Petitioner and Patent Owner Allergan Industrie, SAS (Allergan) have
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`conferred about the timing and overall structure of the hearing. Both parties agree a
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`consolidated hearing addressing all seven matters would be the most efficient way
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`to address these related proceedings. The Board’s Joint Scheduling Order
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`previously scheduled oral argument for January 12, 2021, for all seven
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`proceedings. See IPR2019-01505, Paper 19, 11.
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`The parties differ on the amount of time to present argument to the Board.
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`Prollenium requests up to two hours of argument be allocated per party, i.e., four
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`hours total. While the cases involve six different patents across seven proceedings,
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`Prollenium believes that, given the substantially overlapping grounds and factual
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`issues, ninety minutes (or at most two hours) should be sufficient for each side.2
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`2 Prollenium understands that Allergan intends to request a multi-day hearing of
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`approximately ninety minutes per party, per day (six hours total). Prollenium
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`believes the time requested is excessive and unnecessary, and that the hearing can
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`be completed in one day.
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`1
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`IPR2019-01505, IPR2019-01506, IPR2019-01508, IPR2019-01509,
`IPR2019-01617, IPR2019-01632, IPR2020-00084
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`The parties have preliminarily discussed further sub-division of time among
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`the various grounds. The parties plan to discuss that further and may request a pre-
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`hearing conference to further discuss organization with the Board and/or address
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`motions filed after the close of briefing.
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`II.
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`ISSUES TO BE ARGUED
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`Under 37 C.F.R. § 42.20(a), Prollenium requests oral argument on all issues
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`raised in the parties’ papers, including the instituted Grounds of Unpatentability
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`presented in the proceedings (as set forth in the sections and tables below), any
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`motion to exclude that may be filed by Allergan, any issues requested by Allergan,
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`and any responses to issues that the Board deems necessary for issuing a final
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`written decision.
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`A. Obviousness grounds based on combination of Lebreton and
`Sadozai
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`IPR No.
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`2019-01505
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`2019-01506
`2019-01508
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`2019-01509
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`2019-01617
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`2019-01632
`2020-00084
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`475
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`795
`013
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`322
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`Patent Ground
`1
`2
`3
`1
`1
`1
`2
`1
`2
`2
`4
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`676
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`795
`519
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`Additional References
`Claims
`in Ground
`1-9, 18, 27-37 Monheit
`1-9, 18
`Clark
`27-37
`Smith
`1-11, 22, 40-41 —
`1-4
`Monheit
`1-4
`Monheit
`2
`Smith
`1, 3-31
`CTA Summary
`2
`CTA Summary, Monheit
`26-39
`—
`1-8
`—
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`2
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`
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`IPR2019-01505, IPR2019-01506, IPR2019-01508, IPR2019-01509,
`IPR2019-01617, IPR2019-01632, IPR2020-00084
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`B. Obviousness grounds based on combination of Kinney, Zhao, and
`Narins
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`IPR No.
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`2019-01505
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`2019-01506
`2019-01508
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`2019-01509
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`2019-01617
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`475
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`795
`013
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`Patent Ground
`4
`5
`6
`2
`2
`3
`4
`3
`
`322
`
`676
`
`Additional References
`Claims
`in Ground
`1-9, 18, 27-37 Monheit
`1-9, 18
`Clark
`27-37
`Smith
`1, 3-11, 40-41 —
`1-4
`—
`1-4
`Monheit
`2
`Smith
`1-31
`—
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`
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`C. Obviousness grounds based on combination of Reinmuller and
`Lebreton
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`IPR No.
`2019-01506
`2019-01508
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`2019-01509
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`Patent Ground
`795
`3
`013
`3
`5
`6
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`322
`
`Additional References
`in Ground
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`Claims
`1, 3-11, 40-41 —
`1-4
`Monheit
`1-4
`Monheit
`2
`Smith
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`D. Other petitioned grounds of unpatentability
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`IPR No.
`2019-01632
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`2020-00084
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`Patent Ground Claims
`795
`1
`26-39
`1
`1-4
`2
`1-4
`3
`1-4
`5
`1-8
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`519
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`Asserted References
`Basis
`CTA Summary
`103
`102(a)(1) PMA P050047/S005
`102(a)(1) Weinkle
`102(a)(1) U.S. 2010/0028438
`103
`PMA P050047, Kinney
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`3
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`IPR2019-01505, IPR2019-01506, IPR2019-01508, IPR2019-01509,
`IPR2019-01617, IPR2019-01632, IPR2020-00084
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`Respectfully submitted,
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`/Warren Thomas/
`Warren J. Thomas (Reg. No. 70,581)
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`IPR2019-01505, IPR2019-01506, IPR2019-01508, IPR2019-01509,
`IPR2019-01617, IPR2019-01632, IPR2020-00084
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`CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
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`Pursuant to 37 C.F.R. §§ 42.6(e)(4) and consent of the Patent Owner, I certify
`that on November 17, 2020, a copy of Petitioner’s Request for Oral Argument
`Under 37 C.F.R. § 42.70(a) was served on the counsel of record by email to:
`aminsogna@jonesday.com
`tweisser@jonesday.com
`cplatt@jonesday.com
`sgeers@jonesday.com
`jhartjes@jonesday.com
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`/Warren Thomas/
`Warren J. Thomas (Reg. No. 70,581)
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