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`In re: Sitagliptin Phosphate )
`('708 & '921) Patent Litigation ) MDL No. 19-2902-RGA
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`MERCK, SHARP & DOHME CORP.,
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`LUPIN LIMITED and LUPIN
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`PHARMACEUTICALS, INC.,
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` Tuesday, August 18, 2020
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`BEFORE: THE HONORABLE RICHARD G. ANDREWS, U.S.D.C.J.
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`the defendants for several of the terms.
`I also have with me on the phone Shaobo Zhu from
`Goodwin Procter, Joseph Crystal, in-house counsel at Teva,
`and Magdalena Spencer, in-house counsel at Sandoz.
`Thank you.
`THE COURT: All right. Thank you, Mr. Gattuso.
`Mr. Cottrell, I see you.
`MR. COTTRELL: Yes. Good morning, Your Honor.
`Thank you.
`Fred Cottrell from Richards Layton for the Lupin
`defendants. And with me on the line from Knobbe Martens,
`Bill Zimmerman, Jonathan Bachand, and Andrea Cheek. And I
`believe Mr. Bachand will be speaking on behalf of the
`defendants at some point.
`THE COURT: All right. Are there more?
`MR. PHILLIPS: Good morning, Your Honor. It's
`Jack Phillips. With me on the line are Guylaine Hache from
`Katten Muchin representing Apotex, and Chris Cassella from
`Locke Lord representing Zydus. And I don't anticipate
`either of them will be speaking, but they could tell me if
`I'm wrong.
`THE COURT: All right. Thank you, Mr. Phillips.
`Is anybody else out there?
`MS. GAZA: Good morning, Your Honor. Anne Gaza
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`going first.
`MS. FUNDAKOWSKI: Thank you, Your Honor. This
`is Claire Fundakowski on behalf of Sun Pharmaceutical
`Industries.
`Can you see and hear me okay?
`THE COURT: I can, indeed.
`MS. FUNDAKOWSKI: Excellent. I'll be
`presenting, so I will share my screen. And is this
`appearing on Your Honor's screen?
`THE COURT: Not yet, but sometimes it takes a
`few extra seconds. Now, something is happening.
`MS. FUNDAKOWSKI: Is there a power-point?
`THE COURT: It's getting there. Maybe 32 people
`is clogging up the line or something, I don't know, but --
`well, I don't know. Something is happening because now my
`screen says "Feel free to start sharing," but I don't
`actually see anything other than that.
`MS. FUNDAKOWSKI: Okay. Your Honor, should I
`wait for the slides to load or should I proceed?
`THE COURT: Well, it depends. Does your
`computer show that some loading is going on? Because
`normally when it's loading, I have, you know, the little
`endless circle going around, and I'm not seeing that.
`MS. FUNDAKOWSKI: It indicates I'm presenting.
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`MS. FUNDAKOWSKI: Excellent. All right. The
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`us dropped off the Skype and just phoned in?
`THE COURT: You know, I don't know whether it
`would or it wouldn't, but I have no objection to you doing
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`All right. Well, Ms. Fundakowski, why don't
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`here, why don't you just go ahead. You know, I have read
`the briefing, so I think I should be able to follow whatever
`it is you have to say, even though actually as I'm thinking
`about it, hold on a minute because I also was sent
`separately your slides, and I can pull them up.
`All right. So Ms. Fundakowski, I have something
`that's captioned In Re: Sitagliptin Phosphate Patent
`Litigation, August 18th, 2020, Defendants' Claim
`Construction Presentation. It appears to be 74 pages long.
`Is that what it is that you're trying to bring
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`MS. FUNDAKOWSKI: Yes, Your Honor.
`THE COURT: Okay. Well, why don't I assume
`probably everyone, well more or less has that, too. Why
`don't you just tell me, you know, particularly when there's
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`term. Defendants have read Your Honor's order. We
`understand at this time Your Honor is tentatively ruling in
`plaintiff's favor. We understand that the defendants'
`proposed construction is a bit long. Certainly is not the
`plain and ordinary meaning.
`I do have a presentation prepared that explains
`why defendants believe this is the proper construction in
`light of the prosecution history, but I thought it would be
`prudent for me to first ask if Your Honor has any specific
`questions knowing Your Honor has read the briefing and has
`issued the order to make a point.
`THE COURT: No, you should go ahead with your
`presentation. You know, I used the word tentative because
`it's tentative, so you have the opportunity to persuade me,
`but you're swimming uphill. That's all.
`MS. FUNDAKOWSKI: I understand that, Your Honor,
`and I'll begin defendants' proposed construction. And this
`is slide 4 of defendants' presentation. Defendants'
`proposed construction tracks the very arguments that Merck
`made during prosecution in order to obtain its patents.
`Merck argued that in the present invention, a surfactant
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`Merck further explained exactly what that means.
`A surfactant that works as a wetting agent must work to
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`it's not a surfactant. Merck did this repeatedly.
`Moving on to slide 6. For an additional prior
`art reference, Merck again argued that sodium lauryl
`sulfate, a surfactant, is not a surfactant. And Merck
`argued this again based on how it was used in the tablet.
`Merck argued that even though in the reference sodium lauryl
`sulfate was disclosed as a wetting agent, or surfactant,
`according to the reference, that that wasn't enough.
`Again, Merck argued that in the prior art it was
`not disclosed as performing a specific function which,
`again, is to increase the dissolution rate of sitagliptin in
`metformin. Where the surfactant instead was used for a
`different function such as uniformly distributing the
`compounds, it didn't satisfy the claim limitation.
`Now, I think it's important to note that Merck
`didn't stop there. Merck went a step further.
`Merck expressly argued on three separate
`occasions in order to distinguish three prior art
`references, that sodium or that the surfactant was very
`narrowly defined based on how it works. Merck expressly
`argued that in the present invention, a surfactant works as
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`to either promote or increase rapid tablet dissolution.
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`prosecution. And defendants submit that Merck must be held
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`THE COURT: So Ms. Fundakowski, the little
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`illustrated by noting that Merck was distinguishing prior
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`Now, there's no dispute that sodium lauryl
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`MS. FUNDAKOWSKI: Understood, Your Honor, but I
`do think it's clear that Merck was very clearly
`distinguishing the prior art. And I have again here slide
`5, and I may have skipped over this portion of the slide,
`but what Merck argued and acknowledged that the prior art
`disclosed, what would typically be deemed a surfactant, it
`described that the surfactant was added in a specific way
`that in the prior art it was added using a specific function
`as a granular absorption enhancer or compression enhancer.
`And then Merck stated expressly that that's not
`how the surfactant is used in its invention. It's not
`that -- that different function disclosed in the prior art
`is not what is claimed by the surfactant in the present
`invention. Instead, Merck argued it has to have a specific
`function, and that is increasing the dissolution of
`sitagliptin metformin.
`And again, on slide 6, looking at another prior
`art reference, and I don't think this is all on the slide,
`either, but in J.A. 14 at 17 to 18, Merck not only argued
`that the claimed invention did not meet the function of
`distributing the compound as a wetting agent, Merck also
`argued that the claimed surfactant did not function as the
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`by the prior art. Merck was being very specific that while
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`particles. And this extrinsic evidence explains that one
`function of a surfactant is to wet drug particles with the
`surfactant and then later when the tablet is disintegrated,
`the surfactant will pull water on to the drug particles and
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`And I provided a picture here on slide 9 that
`depicts this. And in yellow around the active, the API or
`active pharmaceutical ingredient, is a surfactant. So the
`surfactant that works as a wetting agent is mixed with the
`active ingredient, and it coats those active ingredients.
`And later when the tablet is consumed or disintegrated,
`water will form around the surfactant such that this aids in
`the dissolution.
`A person of ordinary skill reading Merck's
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`arguing, that a surfactant that works as a wetting agent to
`facilitate liquid ingress and increase dissolution simply
`means that the surfactant must wet the drug particles in
`order to increase the solution of the active ingredient.
`Again, Merck made this perfectly clear. Here on
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`functions such as lubricating the tablet or distributing the
`compound, but that is not what the claims require here, that
`the claims that sodium lauryl sulfate or a surfactant is not
`included in the present invention to perform that function.
`And it's in response to these prior art
`rejections, this is, again, when Merck immediately
`characterized the claimed invention. Merck made it crystal
`clear. Here on slide 7, each of these citations to J.A. 14
`on page 12, 14 and 17, that was in response to three
`different prior art references. Merck said sodium lauryl
`sulfate is used in a certain way in these references, but
`that's not enough, that in the present invention a
`surfactant must perform a very specific function. It must
`be used in a certain way, and that is that it has to work as
`a wetting agent to facilitate liquid ingress into the
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`Now, on slide 8, I included intrinsic evidence
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`clear from the record that it must -- that the wetting agent
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`First, Merck argues that the examiner rejected
`its arguments. Second, Merck argues that it did not repeat
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`rejected its arguments. And third, Merck argues that the
`doctrine of claim differentiation precludes applying
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`examiner rejected its arguments. After Merck made all of
`these arguments, the examiner did maintain its rejections,
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`maintaining its objections was because Merck had failed to
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`sodium lauryl sulfate, that the claims would be allowable.
`But instead, at this point, Merck had only provided mere
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`actual factual evidence, that such evidence would be
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`THE COURT: What do you understand is meant by a
`single granulation?
`MS. FUNDAKOWSKI: What I understand from a
`single granulation, what a POSA would understand is that
`both metformin and sitagliptin simply must be mixed
`together. And this goes to, again, why Merck argued that
`the surfactant was so important. And Merck argued this in
`two ways.
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`First, it argued that stability and
`bioavailability were concerns with a single granulation.
`And Merck on the very same page of its argument argued that
`a surfactant solved these two concerns, that adding a
`surfactant aided with stability and bioavailability, and
`accordingly helped the concerns with a single granulation.
`THE COURT: And so you said a single granulation
`just means mixed together. Is this mixed together at a, you
`know, molecular level or at a, you know, gross level of, you
`know, take a bunch of sitagliptin and take a bunch of
`metformin, and just throw them together and stir them
`around? I mean, does it matter what quantity we're talking
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`MS. FUNDAKOWSKI: I don't think so, Your Honor.
`And I can show you on slide 14, this is one of the examples
`in the '921 patent, and all of the examples describe the
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`MS. BAUMGARTEN: Wonderful. And Ms. Barlow, if
`you could pull up Merck's presentation.
`MS. BARLOW: Sure thing.
`MS. BAUMGARTEN: Thank you.
`So Your Honor, I will attempt to be brief,
`although I shouldn't lead off with such a heavy promise, but
`I think I'd like to kind of emphasize where Ms. Fundakowski
`ended which is with the claims in the patent itself.
`If Ms. Barlow, if you'll pull up slide --
`THE COURT: But Ms. Baumgarten, you do agree
`that, generally speaking, if you disclaim something in
`prosecution, that kind of trumps, so to speak, the arguments
`like claim differentiation. So you know -- right?
`MS. BAUMGARTEN: Yes, I think that's a
`fact-specific inquiry there --
`THE COURT: Right. Right.
`MS. BAUMGARTEN: -- which is --
`THE COURT: Right. But I mean, that's the
`difficulty of arguing. But when the argument of the
`defendant is there was disclaimer during prosecution
`history, the response of, well, claim differentiation or the
`specification says this or that, that may all be true, but
`if it got disclaimed during the prosecution, so what?
`MS. BAUMGARTEN: Understood, Your Honor, and I
`think what we have here is not quite so clear as the
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`THE COURT: So Ms. Fundakowski, do I understand
`your position to be basically, okay, you have a surfactant
`or that the general concept of a surfactant, it can be many
`different things, one of which is a wetting agent? And so
`that even though, for example, the examiner here says you've
`shown us a surfactant, it's a subset of surfactants that are
`wetting agents that you say has been a product of disclaimer
`here; right?
`MS. FUNDAKOWSKI: Yes, I think that's correct,
`Your Honor. And I would say, at a minimum, the examiner
`recognized and adopted Merck's arguments that the surfactant
`is -- the claimed surfactant needs to be added in a certain
`way. And when it's added in a certain way, it performs this
`unexpected result which is when it's added as a wetting
`agent, it increases the dissolution.
`THE COURT: Okay.
`MS. FUNDAKOWSKI: Does that answer your
`question, Your Honor?
`THE COURT: I'm thinking about it.
`MS. FUNDAKOWSKI: Okay.
`THE COURT: Go ahead.
`MS. FUNDAKOWSKI: Okay. And just my final
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