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`Paper 25
`Entered: June 29, 2020
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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`APPLE INC.,
`Petitioner,
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`v.
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`MPH TECHNOLOGIES OY,
`Patent Owner.
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`IPR2019-00821 (Patent 8,037,302 B2)
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`Before SALLY C. MEDLEY, KAMRAN JIVANI, and
`JOHN D. HAMANN, Administrative Patent Judges.
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`HAMANN, Administrative Patent Judge.
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`ORDER
`Oral Hearing
`37 C.F.R. § 42.70
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`IPR2019-00821 (Patent 8,037,302 B2)
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`We instituted inter partes review in the above-referenced proceeding.
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`Paper 9. The Scheduling Order set July 15, 2020 as the date for oral
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`argument, if requested. Paper 10. With mutual consent of the parties, we
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`reset the oral hearing date to July 17, 2020. Paper 24. Pursuant to 37 C.F.R.
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`§ 42.70, each party filed a request for oral argument. Papers 22, 23. The
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`requests are granted.
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`Oral arguments will commence at 9:30 AM ET on July 17, 2020, by
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`video. The parties are directed to contact the Board at least ten (10) days in
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`advance of the hearing if there are any concerns about disclosing
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`confidential information. The Board will provide a court reporter for the
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`hearing, and the reporter’s transcript will be the official hearing record.
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`If at any time during the hearing, counsel encounters technical or
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`other difficulties that fundamentally undermine counsel’s ability to
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`adequately represent its client, please let the panel know immediately, and
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`adjustments will be made.1
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`To facilitate planning and receive video set-up information, each party
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`must contact PTABHearings@uspto.gov at least five (5) business days prior
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`to the oral hearing date. As a reminder, all arrangements and the expenses
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`involved with appearing by video, such as the selection of the facility to be
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`used from which a party will attend by video, must be borne by that party. If
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`a video connection cannot be established, the parties will be provided with
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`dial-in connection information, and the oral hearing will be conducted
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`telephonically.
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`1 For example, if a party is experiencing poor video quality, the Board may
`provide alternate dial-in information.
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`If one or both parties would prefer to participate in the oral hearing
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`telephonically, they should notify PTAB Hearings at the above telephone
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`number five (5) business days prior to the hearing to receive dial-in
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`connection information.
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`Each party will have a total of forty-five (45) minutes for oral
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`argument time across both proceedings. Petitioner will argue first and may
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`present arguments regarding the issues identified in the parties’ requests for
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`oral argument (Papers 22, 23). Patent Owner will then have the opportunity
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`to respond to Petitioner’s arguments and address the issues identified in the
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`parties’ requests for oral argument. Next, Petitioner may use any time it has
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`reserved for rebuttal to respond to Patent Owner’s arguments. Lastly, Patent
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`Owner may use any time it has reserved for sur-rebuttal to respond to
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`Petitioner’s rebuttal arguments. No other arguments will be heard.
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`Under 37 C.F.R. § 42.70(b), demonstrative exhibits, if any, must be
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`served at least (7) seven business days before the hearing. The parties also
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`shall provide the demonstrative exhibits to the Board at least two (2)
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`business days prior to the hearing by emailing them to
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`PTABHearings@uspto.gov. The parties shall not file any demonstrative
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`exhibits on the dockets without prior authorization. The parties are
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`directed to St. Jude Medical, Cardiology Division, Inc. v. The Board of
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`Regents of the University of Michigan, Case IPR2013-00041, (PTAB
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`Jan. 27, 2014) (Paper 65), for guidance regarding appropriate content of
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`demonstrative exhibits.
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`The parties are reminded that demonstrative exhibits are visual aids to
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`oral argument and not evidence, and should be clearly marked as such. For
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`example, each slide may be marked with the words “DEMONSTRATIVE
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`EXHIBIT – NOT EVIDENCE” in the footer. Demonstrative exhibits may
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`not be used to advance arguments or introduce evidence not previously
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`presented in the record. See Dell Inc. v. Acceleron, LLC, 884 F.3d 1364,
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`1369 (Fed. Cir. 2018) (noting that the “Board was obligated to dismiss [the
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`petitioner’s] untimely argument . . . raised for the first time during oral
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`argument”). Instead, demonstrative exhibits should cite to the briefs and
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`evidence in the record.
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`The Board expects that the parties will meet and confer in good faith
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`to resolve any objections to demonstrative exhibits, but if any objections
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`cannot be resolved, the unresolved objections must be filed with the Board at
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`least (2) two business days before the hearing. Any objection to
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`demonstrative exhibits that is not timely presented will be considered
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`waived. The objections should identify with particularity which
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`demonstratives and portions thereof are subject to objection, and include a
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`short (one sentence or less) statement of the reason for each objection. No
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`argument or further explanation is permitted. The Board will consider the
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`objections and schedule a conference if the Board deems necessary.
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`Otherwise, the Board will rule on the objections at the hearing.
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`Any requests for a pre-hearing conference must be made by
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`July 6, 2020. To request such a conference, an email should be sent to
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`Trials@uspto.gov including several dates and times of availability for one or
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`both parties, as appropriate, that are generally no later than three (3) business
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`days prior to the oral hearing.
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`The Board expects lead counsel for each party to be present by video
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`at the oral hearing. Any counsel of record may present the party’s argument
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`as long as that counsel is present by video.
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`Any special requests for audio-visual equipment should be directed to
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`PTABHearings@uspto.gov. A party may also indicate any special requests
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`related to appearing at a video oral hearing, such as a request to
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`accommodate visual or hearing impairments, and indicate how the PTAB
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`may accommodate the special request. Any special requests must be
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`presented in a separate communication not less than five (5) business days
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`before the hearing.
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`Counsel should unmute only when speaking. The panel will have
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`access to all papers filed with the Board, including demonstratives. During
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`the oral hearing, the parties are advised to identify clearly and specifically
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`each demonstrative referenced (e.g., by slide or screen number) to ensure the
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`clarity and accuracy of the court reporter’s transcript. In addition, the parties
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`are advised to identify themselves each time they speak. Furthermore, the
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`remote nature of the oral hearing may also result in an audio lag, and thus
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`the parties are advised to observe a pause prior to speaking, so as to avoid
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`speaking over others.
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`Members of the public may request to listen to this oral hearing. If
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`resources are available, the Board generally expects to grant such requests.
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`If either party objects to the Board granting such requests, for example,
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`because confidential information may be discussed, the party must notify the
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`Board by contacting PTABHearings@uspto.gov at least five (5) business
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`days prior to the oral hearing date.
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`It is
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`ORDERED that oral argument will commence at 9:30 AM ET on
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`July 17, 2020.
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`PETITIONER:
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`Michael Specht
`Mspecht-ptab@sternekessler.com
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`Daniel Block
`Dblock-ptab@sternekessler.com
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`Keyur Parikh
`Kparikh-ptab@sternekessler.com
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`PATENT OWNER:
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`James Carmichael
`jim@carmichaelip.com
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`Kenneth Weatherwax
`weatherwax@lowensteinweatherwax.com
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`Rich Megley
`rmegley@leesheikh.com
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`Brian Haan
`bhaan@leesheikh.com
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`Ashley LaValley
`alavalley@leesheikh.com
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`Christopher Lee
`clee@leesheikh.com
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`Patrick Maloney
`maloney@lowensteinweatherwax.com
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`Jason Linger
`linger@lowensteinweatherwax.com
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`Stephen Schreiner
`schreiner@carmichaelip.com
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