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`Paper No. 22
`Date: April 14, 2020
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`UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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`BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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`APPLE INC., SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD., and
`SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS AMERICA, INC.,
`Petitioner,
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`v.
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`FIRSTFACE CO., LTD.,
`Patent Owner.
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`Cases1
`IPR2019-00612 (Patent 8,831,557 B2)
`IPR2019-00613 (Patent 9,633,373 B2)2
`IPR2019-00614 (Patent 9,779,419 B2)3
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`Before JUSTIN T. ARBES, MELISSA A. HAAPALA, and
`RUSSELL E. CASS, Administrative Patent Judges.
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`HAAPALA, Administrative Patent Judge.
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`TRIAL HEARING ORDER
`37 C.F.R. § 42.70
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`1 Apple Inc., Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd., and Samsung Electronics
`America, Inc. are the petitioner in Case IPR2019-00612. Apple Inc. is the
`petitioner in Cases IPR2019-00613 and IPR2019-00614. We refer herein to
`the petitioner in each respective proceeding as “Petitioner.” This Order
`applies to each of the listed cases. The parties are not authorized to use a
`multiple case caption.
`2 Case IPR2019-01011 has been consolidated with this proceeding.
`3 Case IPR2019-01012 has been consolidated with this proceeding.
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`IPR2019-00612 (Patent 8,831,557 B2)
`IPR2019-00613 (Patent 9,633,373 B2)
`IPR2019-00614 (Patent 9,779,419 B2)
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`Petitioner and Patent Owner each filed requests for oral hearing in the
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`above-captioned proceedings. Papers 18, 19. 4 The requests for oral hearing
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`for these proceedings are granted.
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`Oral arguments for IPR2019-00612 will commence at 10 AM Eastern
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`Time on May 5, 2020. Following a break, a combined hearing will be held
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`for IPR2019-00613 and IPR2019-00614, which will commence at 1 PM
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`Eastern Time. The hearings will be conducted by video.
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`The parties are directed to contact the Board at least 10 days in
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`advance of the hearing if there are any concerns about disclosing
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`confidential information. The Board will provide a court reporter for each
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`hearing, and the reporter’s transcript will constitute the official record of the
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`hearing. A combined transcript will be provided for IPR2019-00613 and
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`IPR2019-00614.
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`If at any time during the hearing counsel encounters technical or other
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`difficulties that fundamentally undermine counsel’s ability to adequately
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`represent its client, please let the panel know immediately, and adjustments
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`will be made.
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`To facilitate planning, each party must contact PTAB Hearings at
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`(571) 272-9797 five business days prior to the oral hearing date to receive
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`video set-up information. As a reminder, all arrangements and the expenses
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`involved with appearing by video, such as the selection of the facility to be
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`used from which a party will attend by video, must be borne by that party. If
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`a video connection cannot be established, the parties will be provided with
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`4 Our citations to Papers will be to those filed in IPR2019-00612. Similar
`Papers were filed in IPR2019-00613 and IPR2019-00614.
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`IPR2019-00612 (Patent 8,831,557 B2)
`IPR2019-00613 (Patent 9,633,373 B2)
`IPR2019-00614 (Patent 9,779,419 B2)
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`dial-in connection information, and the oral hearing will be conducted
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`telephonically.
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`If one or both parties would prefer to participate in the oral hearing
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`telephonically, they should notify PTAB Hearings at the above telephone
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`number five business days prior to the hearing to receive dial-in connection
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`information.
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`Each side will have 60 minutes to present its arguments for IPR2019-
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`00612. For the combined hearing of IPR2019-00613 and IPR2019-00614,
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`each side will have 60 minutes, total, to present its arguments for these
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`proceedings. Petitioner bears the ultimate burden of proof that Patent
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`Owner’s claims at issue in these reviews are unpatentable. Accordingly,
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`Petitioner will open each hearing by presenting its case regarding the
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`challenged claims and grounds set forth in the Petition(s). After Petitioner’s
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`presentation, Patent Owner will respond to Petitioner’s arguments.
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`Petitioner may reserve up to half of its time for rebuttal to respond to Patent
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`Owner’s arguments. Thereafter, Patent Owner may use any of its remaining
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`time for sur-rebuttal, to respond to Petitioner’s rebuttal arguments.
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`Per the Office Patent Trial Practice Guide, either party may request a
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`pre-hearing conference. Office Patent Trial Practice Guide, August 2018
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`Update, 83 Fed. Reg. 39,989 (Aug. 13, 2018) (found at the following link to
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`the USPTO website: https://www.uspto.gov/sites/
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`default/files/documents/2018_Revised_Trial_Practice_Guide.pdf). Requests
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`for a pre-hearing conference must be made no later than DUE DATE 6.
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`Prior to such a request, the parties shall meet and confer to discuss potential
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`issues for the pre-hearing conference. To request such a conference, an
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`IPR2019-00612 (Patent 8,831,557 B2)
`IPR2019-00613 (Patent 9,633,373 B2)
`IPR2019-00614 (Patent 9,779,419 B2)
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`email should be sent to Trials@uspto.gov including a brief list of items the
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`parties would like to discuss with the panel and several dates and times of
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`availability for one or both parties, as appropriate, that are generally no later
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`than three (3) business days prior to the oral hearing. Please refer to the
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`Guide for more information on the pre-hearing conference.
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`The parties are reminded that, under 37 C.F.R. § 42.53(f)(7), a
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`proponent of deposition testimony must file such testimony as an exhibit.
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`The Board will not consider any deposition testimony that has not been so
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`filed.
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`Notwithstanding 37 C.F.R. § 42.70(b), the parties may agree on a date
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`for service of demonstrative exhibits. The parties shall confer with each
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`other regarding any objections to demonstrative exhibits and file
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`demonstrative exhibits with the Board at least two (2) business days prior to
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`the hearing if no pre-hearing conference is requested or two (2) business
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`days before a pre-hearing conference if one is scheduled. For any issue that
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`cannot be resolved after conferring with the opposing party, the parties may
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`file jointly a one-page list of objections at least two business days prior to
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`the hearing. The list should identify with particularity which demonstrative
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`exhibits are subject to objection and include a short statement (no more than
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`one sentence) of the reason for each objection. No argument or further
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`explanation is permitted. We will consider the objections and schedule a
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`conference call, if necessary. Otherwise, we will reserve ruling on the
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`objections until the hearing or after the hearing. Any objection to
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`demonstrative exhibits that is not presented timely will be considered
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`waived.
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`IPR2019-00612 (Patent 8,831,557 B2)
`IPR2019-00613 (Patent 9,633,373 B2)
`IPR2019-00614 (Patent 9,779,419 B2)
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`The parties are directed to St. Jude Medical, Cardiology Division, Inc.
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`v. The Board of Regents of the University of Michigan, IPR2013-00041
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`(PTAB January 27, 2015) (Paper 65), for guidance regarding the appropriate
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`content of demonstrative exhibits. Demonstrative exhibits used at the oral
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`hearing are aids to oral argument and not evidence, and should be clearly
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`marked as such. For example, each slide of a demonstrative exhibit may be
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`marked with the words “DEMONSTRATIVE EXHIBIT – NOT
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`EVIDENCE” in the footer. The parties are reminded that the presenter must
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`identify clearly and specifically each demonstrative exhibit (e.g., by slide or
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`screen number) referenced during the hearing to ensure the clarity and
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`accuracy of the reporter’s transcript. Demonstrative exhibits cannot be used
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`to advance arguments or introduce evidence not previously presented in the
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`record. See Dell Inc. v. Acceleron, LLC, 884 F.3d 1364, 1369 (Fed. Cir.
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`2018) (noting that the “Board was obligated to dismiss [the petitioner’s]
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`untimely argument . . . raised for the first time during oral argument”).
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`Instead, demonstrative exhibits should cite to evidence in the record.
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`The Board generally expects lead counsel for each party to be present
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`by video at the oral hearing. Any counsel of record may present the party’s
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`argument as long as that counsel is present by video.
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`Any special requests for audio-visual equipment should be directed to
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`PTABHearings@uspto.gov. A party may also indicate any special requests
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`related to appearing at a video oral hearing, such as a request to
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`accommodate visual or hearing impairments, and indicate how the PTAB
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`may accommodate the special request. Any special requests must be
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`IPR2019-00612 (Patent 8,831,557 B2)
`IPR2019-00613 (Patent 9,633,373 B2)
`IPR2019-00614 (Patent 9,779,419 B2)
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`presented in a separate communication not less than five (5) days before the
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`hearing.
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`Counsel should unmute only when speaking. The panel will have
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`access to all papers filed with the Board, including demonstratives. During
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`the oral hearing, the parties are advised to identify clearly and specifically
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`each demonstrative referenced (e.g., by slide or screen number) to ensure the
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`clarity and accuracy of the court reporter’s transcript. In addition, the parties
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`are advised to identify themselves each time they speak. Furthermore, the
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`remote nature of the oral hearing may also result in an audio lag, and so the
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`parties are advised to observe a pause prior to speaking, so as to avoid
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`speaking over others.
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`Members of the public may request to listen in on this oral hearing. If
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`resources are available, the Board generally expects to grant such requests.
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`If either party objects to the Board granting such requests, for example,
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`because confidential information may be discussed, the party must notify the
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`Board by contacting PTABHearings@uspto.gov at least five business days
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`prior to the oral hearing date.
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`IPR2019-00612 (Patent 8,831,557 B2)
`IPR2019-00613 (Patent 9,633,373 B2)
`IPR2019-00614 (Patent 9,779,419 B2)
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`For PETITIONER:
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`Gabrielle E. Higgins
`Scott McKeown
`Victor Cheung
`Christopher Bonny
`gabrielle.higgins@ropesgray.com
`scott.mckeown@ropesgray.com
`victor.cheung@ropesgray.com
`christopher.bonny@ropesgray.com
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`For PATENT OWNER:
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`Barry Bumgardner
`Matthew Juren
`Thomas Cecil
`barry@nelbum.com
`matthew@nelbum.com
`tom@nelbum.com
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