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Facebook, Inc., Instagram, LLC and WhatsApp Inc.
`v.
`BlackBerry Limited
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`IPR2019-00516 & IPR2019-00528
`U.S. Patent No. 8,279,173
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`Petitioners’ Demonstratives
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`May 5, 2020
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`Before Sally C. Medley, Miriam L. Quinn and Aaron W. Moore,
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`Administrative Patent Judges
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`Facebook's Exhibit No. 1030
`IPR2019-00516, 00528
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`Claim 1 of the ’173 Patent
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`U.S. Patent 8,279,173
`Ex. 1001
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`Instituted Grounds
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`IPR2019-00516
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`IPR2019-00528
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`(Zuckerberg and Rothmuller Grounds)
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`(MacLaurin Grounds)
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`Petitioners no longer pursuing Ground 1
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`Key Disputes
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`• Construction of “tag source”
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`• Prior art disclosure of:
`• “tag sources”
`• “tag type indicator”
`• “tag list”
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`• Motivation to combine
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`• Motion to amend
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`Construction of “Tag Source”
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`Construction of “Tag Source” – Current Positions
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`Petitioner:
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`“collection of tags”
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`Patent Owner:
`“separately searchable collection of tags”
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`(PO Response (-00516) at 20)
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`(Reply (-00516) at 1)
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`(Reply (-00516) at 9)
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`Construction of “Tag Source”: “Collection of tags” – Intrinsic Record
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`For example:
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`(’173, 5:39-47)
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`(Petition (-00516) at 59; see also Petition (-00516) at 9)
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`Construction of “Tag Source” – Patent Owner’s Position
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`(PO Response (-00516) at 30)
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`Construction of “Tag Source” – Summary of Response to PO’s Arguments
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`• “Separately searchable” is ambiguous
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`• No actual disclosure in ’173 specification of tag sources
`being separately searchable
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`• No basis to import “separately searchable” even if
`disclosed in ’173 specification
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`• “Separately searchable” inconsistent with well-known
`search techniques
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`• “Separately searchable” requirement not required to
`distinguish tag sources
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`(Reply (-00516) at 1-9)
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`Construction of “Tag Source” – Response to PO’s Arguments
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`• “separately searchable” is ambiguous – physically separate storage not required
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`(Reply (-00516) at 1-3)
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`Construction of “Tag Source” – Response to PO’s Arguments
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`• “separately searchable” imports limitations (at best) inferred from the specification
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`* * *
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`(Reply (-00516) at 3-5)
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`Construction of “Tag Source” – Response to PO’s Arguments
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`• “separately searchable” imports limitations (at best) inferred from the specification
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`(Reply (-00516) at 5-6)
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`Construction of “Tag Source” – Response to PO’s Arguments
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`• “separately searchable” inconsistent with well-known search techniques
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`(Reply (-00516) at 7-8)
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`Construction of “Tag Source” – Response to PO’s Arguments
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`• Tag sources need not be “separately searchable” to be distinct / recognizable
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`(Reply (-00516) at 8-9)
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`Whether the Prior Art Discloses
`“Tag Sources”
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`Prior Art Discloses “Tag Sources” – Summary
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`Reference
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`Tag Sources
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`Zuckerberg
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`Collections of tags used for (1) text list 544 and (2) friends list 546
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`Rothmuller
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`Collections of tags corresponding to tag “types” or tag “categories”
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`MacLaurin
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`Discloses in two separate ways:
`• “automatic” and “explicit” tags
`• “external tag sources” (e.g., attorney and medical tag sets)
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`“Tag Sources” – Zuckerberg
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`text list 544
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`friends list 546
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`(Zuckerberg, 8:52-65)
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`(Zuckerberg, Fig. 5 (partial))
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`(Petition (-00516) at 24-27)
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`“Tag Sources” – Zuckerberg
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`(Petition (-00516) at 25-26)
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`“Tag Sources” – Zuckerberg – Response to PO Arguments
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`• PO Argues: All tags in Zuckerberg’s tag list 540 are from the same “tag source”
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`• Response:
`• Zuckerberg can recognize and distinguish text list from friends list
`• Physically separating text list and friends list not required, but doing so an obvious
`implementation based on Zuckerberg’s teachings
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`* * *
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`(Reply (-00516) at 12-15)
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`“Tag Sources” – Rothmuller
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`(Rothmuller Provisional (Ex. 1005), Page 64;
`see also Rothmuller (Ex. 1004), 3:55-60, 4:1-39)
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`(Petition (-00516) at 57-59)
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`“Tag Sources” – Rothmuller – Response to PO Arguments
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`• PO Argues: All tags in Rothmuller are from the same tag source
`• Response:
`• Grounds 2-5 (-00516) do not rely on Rothmuller (or Plotkin) for “tag sources”
`• For Grounds 6-7 (-00516), each type or category of tags can properly be viewed
`as a distinct collection of tags – manner of physical storage not relevant
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`Rothmuller Provisional
`discloses a “Tag List Area”
`drop-down menu that displays
`a list organized by tag type –
`i.e., recognizes distinct tag
`collections
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`(Rothmuller Provisional (Ex. 1005), at Page 71)
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`(Petition (-00516) at 15, 21-24)
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`“Tag Sources” – MacLaurin
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`(Petition (-00528) at 31-33
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`“Tag Sources” – MacLaurin – Alternate Mapping
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`(MacLaurin (Ex. 1006), 6:21-31;
`see also MacLaurin, 7:40-47 (medical profession tag set))
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`(Petition (-00528) at 33-34)
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`“Tag Sources” – MacLaurin – Response to PO Arguments
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`• PO Argues: MacLaurin’s “automatic” and “explicit” tags from same “tag source”
`• Response:
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`• No dispute that MacLaurin’s “external tag sources” disclose claimed
`“tag sources” even under “separately searchable” construction
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`(PO Response (-00528) at 37)
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`Whether the Prior Art Discloses
`“Tag Type Indicators”
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`Prior Art Discloses “Tag Type Indicators” – Summary
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`Reference
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`Tag Type Indicator
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`Rothmuller
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`Icons displayed with tags to indicate tag type or category
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`Plotkin
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`Icons displayed with tags to indicate tag category
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`MacLaurin
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`Indicators (e.g., different symbols) displayed with tags to visually
`distinguish them
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`“Tag Type Indicator” – Rothmuller
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`tag type indicator
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`(Rothmuller Provisional (Ex. 1005), Page 70)
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`(Rothmuller (Ex. 1004), Fig. 9B (excerpt))
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`(Petition (-00516) at 39-42)
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`“Tag Type Indicator” – Plotkin
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`tag type indicator
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`(Plotkin (Ex. 1008), Page 31)
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`(Petition (-00516) at 49-52)
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`“Tag Type Indicator” – Rothmuller / Plotkin – Response to PO Arguments
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`• PO Argues:
`• Rothmuller/Plotkin category icons are not “indicative of a tag
`source” because Rothmuller/Plotkin categories are not “tag
`sources,” as claimed
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`• Response (same as for “tag sources” dispute):
`• Grounds 2-5 (-00516) do not rely on Rothmuller (or Plotkin) for
`“tag sources”
`• For Grounds 6-7 (-00516), each type or category of tags can
`properly be viewed as a distinct collection of tags – manner of
`physical storage not relevant
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`(PO Response (-00516) at 45-51, 75)
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`“Tag Type Indicator” – MacLaurin
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`(MacLaurin (Ex. 1006), 8:19-23)
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`(Petition (-00528) at 35-40)
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`“Tag Type Indicator” – MacLaurin
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`• Obvious to provide tag type indicators to distinguish
`“automatic” and “explicit” tags, as well as “external” tag types
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`(Petition (-00528) at 39-40)
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`“Tag Type Indicator” – MacLaurin – Response to PO Arguments
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`• PO Argues: MacLaurin’s tagging mode does not visually distinguish between tags
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`Response:
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`(MacLaurin (Ex. 1006) at 7:66-8:29)
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`(Reply (-00528) at 11-16)
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`“Tag Type Indicator” – MacLaurin – Response to PO Arguments
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`• Obvious to adapt MacLaurin’s teachings about visually distinguishing tags to
`tag suggestions in tagging mode
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`(Reply (-00528) at 17-18)
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`Whether the Prior Art Discloses
`“Tag List”
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`Prior Art Discloses “Tag List” – Summary
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`Reference
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`Tag List
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`Zuckerberg
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`Tag list 540
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`Rothmuller
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`Recently used tags list
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`MacLaurin
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`List of tag suggestions in tagging mode
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`• No dispute that Zuckerberg and Rothmuller disclose tag lists
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`“Tag List” – MacLaurin
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`• MacLaurin discloses and renders obvious a “tag list”
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`(MacLaurin (Ex. 1007), 5:25-37;
`see also MacLaurin, 4:42-48)
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`(Petition (-00528) at 28-31)
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`“Tag List” – MacLaurin
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`• MacLaurin discloses and renders obvious a “tag list”
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`(MacLaurin (Ex. 1007), 7:66-8:22)
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`(Petition (-00528) at 28-31)
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`Motivation to Combine
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`Motivation to Combine Zuckerberg and Rothmuller
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`• Zuckerberg + Rothmuller’s tag type indicators for each tag
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`• Greater flexibility in organizing list of tag suggestions
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`• Rothmuller’s “People” and “Miscellaneous” tag categories analogous to
`Zuckerberg’s friends list and text list
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`• MacLaurin further provides express motivation – visual indicators allow tags
`to be easily distinguished based on tag type, in any context
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`(Petition (-00516) at 42-45; Reply (-00516) at 16-21)
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`Motivation to Combine Zuckerberg and Plotkin
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`• Zuckerberg + Plotkin’s tag type indicators for each tag
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`• Similar to combination with Rothmuller:
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`• Greater flexibility in organizing list of tag suggestions
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`• MacLaurin further provides express motivation – visual indicators allow
`tags to be easily distinguished based on tag type, in any context
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`• In addition:
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`• Market forces – popular, commercially available software program
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`(Petition (-00516) at 52-53; Reply (-00516) at 16-21)
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`Motivation to Combine MacLaurin Teachings (Single Reference)
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`• MacLaurin’s visual indicators + “external tag sources”
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`(Petition (-00528) at 40)
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`Motivation to Combine MacLaurin and Rothmuller
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`• MacLaurin + Rothmuller’s tag type indicators for each tag
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`(Petition (-00528) at 58-61; see also Reply (-00528) at 17-23)
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`Motivation to Combine MacLaurin and Plotkin
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`• MacLaurin + Plotkin’s tag type indicators for each tag
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`• Similar to combination with Rothmuller:
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`• MacLaurin provides express motivation – visual indicators allow tags to
`be easily distinguished based on tag type, in any context
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`• In addition:
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`• Market forces – popular, commercially available software program
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`(Petition (-00528) at 65-67; see also Reply (-00528) at 17-23)
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`Motion to Amend
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`Patent Owner’s Proposed Amendments for ’173 Patent
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`• Proposed amendments in substitute
`claims would add three additional
`features to independent claims:
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`1. Display of a photograph and user
`selection of a subject or object in
`the photograph
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`2. Display of a “vertical” tag list
`showing at least three tags from
`two tag sources in a particular
`arrangement
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`3. Associating at least one of the tags
`in the tag list with the selected
`subject or object
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`(Motion to Amend at 2-3; Opp’n to Motion to Amend at 1-2)
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`Patent Owner’s Proposed Amendments for ’173 Patent
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`• Proposed amendments in substitute claims would
`add three additional features to independent claims:
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`1. Display of a photograph and user selection of a
`subject or object in the photograph
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`2. Display of a “vertical” tag list showing at least three
`tags from two tag sources in a particular arrangement
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`3. Associating at least one of the tags in the tag list with
`the selected subject or object
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`X X
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`• No dispute that prior art discloses (1) and (3)
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`(Petitioner Sur-Reply at 1-2)
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`Patent Owner’s Proposed Amendments for ’173 Patent
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`2. Display of a “vertical” tag list showing at least three
`tags from two tag sources in a particular arrangement
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`• No dispute that prior art discloses and
`renders obvious “vertical” tag list
`(Zuckerberg, Rothmuller, Plotkin)
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`• Patent Owner recycles arguments made for original claims:
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`• Zuckerberg: Does not disclose interspersing tags
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`• Rothmuller and Plotkin: Do not disclose multiple tag sources
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`• MacLaurin: Does not disclose tag list or visually distinguishing tags
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`(Petitioner Sur-Reply at 2-4)
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`Thank you
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