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` BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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` PANASONIC CORPORATION OF NORTH AMERICA, et al.,
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` Petitioners,
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` CELLSPIN SOFT, INC.
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` Patent Owner
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` CASE: Unassigned
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` Patent No. 9,258,698
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` PETITION FOR INTER PARTES REVIEW
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` OF U.S. PATENT NO. 9,258,698
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` Veritext Legal Solutions
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` Mid-Atlantic Region
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` 1250 Eye Street NW - Suite 350
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` Washington, D.C. 20005
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`PANASONIC EX. 1022, p. 1 of 13
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` UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
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` BEFORE THE PATENT TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
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` TELEPHONIC HEARING
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` February 25, 2019
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`Reported by: Ahuva Goldberger
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`APPEARANCES:
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` ON BEHALF OF PANASONIC CORPORATION OF NORTH
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`AMERICA:
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` T. VANN PEARCE, JR., ESQUIRE
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` Orrick Herrington & Sutcliffe
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` Columbia Center
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` 1152 15th Street, N.W.
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` Washington, D.C. 20005-1706
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` Telephone: 202-339-8696
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` E-mail: Vpearce@orrick.com
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` ON BEHALF OF CELLSPIN SOFT, INC.:
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` JOHN J. EDMONDS, ESQUIRE
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` Collins Edmonds Schlather & Tower, PLLC
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` 355 South Grand Avenue, Suite 2450
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` Los Angeles, California 90071
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` Telephone: 213-973-7846
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` E-mail: Jedmonds@ip-lit.com
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` PROCEEDINGS
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`Whereupon,
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` (Proceedings commenced at 11:30 a.m.)
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` MR. PEARCE: Good morning, your Honor. This
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`is Vann Pearce, for the petitioners.
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` JUDGE ANDERSON: Thank you, Mr. Pearce. For
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`patent owner, an entry, please.
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` MR. EDMONDS: Good morning, Your Honor.
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`This is John Edmonds. I'll be doing the talking, but
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`also on the line is my colleague, Eric Carr. We're
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`here on behalf of the patent owner. We refer to the
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`patent owner as Cellspin.
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` JUDGE ANDERSON: Very good. Thank you,
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`Mr. Edmonds. Mr. Carr, glad to have you join us.
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`Okay. So the petitioner has asked for leave to file a
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`reply to the patent owner's preliminary response.
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` And with that, first of all, if anybody has
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`a court reporter on the line, let me know. I'm
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`assuming there is none. So go ahead, Mr. Pearce. What
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`are we looking at here?
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` MR. PEARCE: Briefly, Your Honor, is someone
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`from Veritext on the line? We made an arrangement for
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`a court reporter to join. Is anyone on?
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` MADAM COURT REPORTER: Yes, I am.
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` JUDGE ANDERSON: Okay. Well, Mr. Pearce, as
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`you made that arrangement, would you see to it that the
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`transcript of this call gets filed as an exhibit in the
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`case, please.
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` MR. PEARCE: Certainly. And with that, Your
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`Honor, just to briefly address the issue here. The
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`patent owner had argued in its preliminary response
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`that there is a lack of standing to institute the IPR
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`because of a ruling of invalidity in a co-pending
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`litigation by district court. The patent owner is
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`currently appealing that ruling, and it is before the
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`federal circuit now.
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` We have requested leave to file a short
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`reply for each, which I think would be no more than
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`three pages to address that lack of standing argument.
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`And there are really two reasons why there is good
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`cause to allow our reply brief here.
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` The first is that the patent owner has cited
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`a number of cases in support of this argument. This is
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`on page 42 of the preliminary response. These cases
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`are clearly different situations than the case at hand.
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` These are -- claims in this case were either
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`canceled by the patent owner, or there was a final
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`judgement after all appeals, which was not the
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`situation here.
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` This is not an argument we submit we
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`reasonably could have expected to address in the
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`petition. We would like the opportunity to address the
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`substance of that argument, and we submit the board may
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`also benefit from having a complete record on this
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`issue, which is really a legal issue.
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` And the second point I'll make is, in the
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`past, the board has given petitioners leave to address
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`in the reply briefs arguments of a lack of standing or
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`similar types of arguments.
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` So this is not something, of course,
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`directed to substantive questions of claim construction
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`or invalidity. It's more of a legal question that we
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`think is appropriate to address in a brief reply.
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` That's an overview of our position. Of
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`course I am happy to answer any questions.
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` JUDGE ANDERSON: Now, that's great.
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`Mr. Edmonds, what's your response?
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` MR. EDMONDS: Your Honor, the petitioner has
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`not shown good cause to file a reply. As disclosed in
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`the patent owner's response, the ruling is on appeal.
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`We attached a copy of the ruling to the response, so
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`there's no factual disputes there.
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` This is a legal issue. It's a legal issue
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`that Panasonic was certainly aware of. They're one of
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`the parties. That was a successful motion that
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`resulted in the ruling of un-patentability that's
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`appended to the respondent's brief.
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` And they cited no intervening authorities or
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`any new propositions of law. They just disagree with
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`the legal argument that the patent owner is making, and
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`that's not good cause for reply.
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` JUDGE ANDERSON: Let me ask Mr. -- well, see
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`as how you're relying on the standing argument,
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`Mr. Edmonds, what's the status of the federal circuit
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`appeal?
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` MR. EDMONDS: The federal circuit appeal is
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`scheduled for oral argument on April 5th. It's fully
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`briefed and scheduled for oral argument on April 5th of
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`this year.
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` JUDGE ANDERSON: Do you have any information
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`that you can add to that, Mr. Pearce?
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` MR. PEARCE: I know we just got the ruling
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`-- or, excuse me, the order of scheduling argument as
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`Mr. Edmonds mentioned last Friday. And beyond that, I
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`don't think there's anything more that either side can
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`say about how that appeal will go. And of course the
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`outcome of it is uncertain at this point.
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` JUDGE ANDERSON: Okay. Well, the issue is
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`not really something we need to decide at this point,
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`but I think the panel is interested in hearing the
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`other side of this standing issue, as you labeled it,
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`Mr. -- I guess Mr. Edmonds talks about it as a standing
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`issue.
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` So let me consult with the panel a little
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`bit, and I'll be right back with you, and give you a
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`ruling here. So hang on.
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` (A short break was taken.)
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` JUDGE ANDERSON: Okay, counsel. The panel
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`has had a moment to confer here. We're going to allow
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`petitioner to file a three-page reply as requested.
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`That reply will be due one week from today, which I
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`don't have a calendar quite in front of me, but I think
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`that's March 7th -- something. I don't know. Whatever
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`it is -- March 4th. Thank you. One of my panelists
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`has a calendar there. Well, actually, I do, too. I
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`just missed it. March 4th is a week from today. Is
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`that going to be okay for you, Mr. Pearce?
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` MR. PEARCE: Yes, Your Honor.
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` JUDGE ANDERSON: And there will be no reply,
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`Mr. Edmonds. We understand what your position is. If
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`something were to happen, which it doesn't appear that
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`that will be the case, in the federal circuit appeal,
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`we expect the parties to notify us of what's going on
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`there.
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` As you know, the decision on institution is
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`due, I believe, April 30th. And so that's a little bit
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`after your oral argument. If anything were to happen,
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`please advise us.
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` Other than that, let me see if either of my
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`panel members has anything to add, and we will go from
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`there. Okay. We are -- we have no questions of you.
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`Mr. Pearce, do you have anything further?
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` MR. PEARCE: No, Your Honor.
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` JUDGE ANDERSON: Mr. Edmonds, anything
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` MR. EDMONDS: No, your honor.
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` JUDGE ANDERSON: Okay. With that, we will
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`issue an order shortly, and we will expect the
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`petitioner to file its reply a week from Monday, on
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`March 4th. And we have nothing further. With that, we
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`are adjourned. Thank you all for participating.
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`Appreciate it. Bye-bye.
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` MR. PEARCE: Thank you, Your Honor.
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` MR. EDMONDS: Thank you, Your Honor.
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` (Proceedings concluded at 11:38 a.m.)
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` REPORTER CERTIFICATE
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` I, AHUVA GOLDBERGER, Certified Shorthand
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`Reporter, do hereby certify that there came before me
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`via tele-conference, the above-referenced parties, that
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`the proceeding was translated and proofread using
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`computer-aided transcription, and the above transcript
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`of proceedings is a true and accurate transcript of my
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`notes as taken at the time of said event. I further
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`certify that I am neither attorney nor counsel for nor
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`related nor employed by any of the parties to the
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`action in which this examination is taken; further,
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`that I am not a relative or employee of any attorney or
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`counsel employed by the parties hereto or financially
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`interested in this action.
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` As witness my hand and notarial seal this
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`25th day of February, 2019.
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` <%17404,Signature%>
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` Ahuva Goldberger
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` Notary Public
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`My Commission Expires:
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